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Who makes your favorite patty melt?

ipsedixit May 18, 2012 08:13 AM

I know Pann's patty melt is a board favorite.

But my vote goes to Pie N Burger.

Yours?

  1. mucho gordo Jan 2, 2014 07:55 PM

    Once again I have to give the prize to Boulevard Burger in Woodland Hills. Unbeatable.

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      mar52 Sep 22, 2013 07:12 PM

      Northwoods Inn, all locations. Have a side of red slaw with it.

      1. barryc Sep 20, 2013 08:59 PM

        i don't know anyone named patty... josh groban?

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          CastironJim Jul 2, 2013 12:38 PM

          My favorite patty melt comes from the unlikeliest of places, Izzy's Deli in Santa Monica. Thick, juicy, charred patty; perfect griddled rye, creamy American cheese and lovely onions. (At times the cook's miss medium rare by a mile, but when they get it right it is the perfect synergy of flavors.)

          Here's a secret: If you're a fan of the long gone Ship's "Ship Shape Burger" like I am, have Izzy's substitute griddled sour dough for the rye bread and ask for a side of Thousand Island, take a bite, close your eyes and you're back in Ship's!

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            foodiemahoodie Sep 20, 2013 09:53 PM

            I was going to mention Izzy's myself, but I so rarely have patty melts that I really don't have a basis of knowledge to make an accurate recommendation.

            I'm also of the mind that a properly-made patty melt is a pretty easy and straight forward concoction. Hard to screw up. Only a minimal amount of competence is needed.

            That was one of my go-to hangover cures - patty melt at Izzy's. Would like to know the the Pann-O-Philes think of it.

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              toitoi Sep 21, 2013 08:34 AM

              My hangover cure was going to the butcher and buying a pound of lean ground round. Onions, cheese, and bread weren't necessary.

              Mom was my teacher on that one.

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              cujo Sep 22, 2013 09:06 PM

              Thanks for the Izzy's tip. I never would have considered ordering it there. But now I will..

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                foodiemahoodie Jan 1, 2014 08:20 PM

                I withdraw my recommendation for Izzy's. Just had it today - and they seemed to have forgotten that a patty melt is fried in pan to make it a kind of grilled cheese burger. The bread should be fried and a little crispy. This looked like fried it for 10 seconds on each side and that was it.

                Also, Izzy's had pretty decent french frieds. With skins. No longer. They seemed to have changed.

                We all know that Izzy's is considered to be the worst deli in Los Angeles. And they have further solidified their position at the bottom. Extending their negative lead. it's like they looked over their offerings and had a pow-wow to figure out to screw up things a little more. Perhaps someone there read this thread and jumped to their feet "We'll have none of that!" And so, now Izzy's has nothing to recommend. Perfect record.

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                  kevin Jan 2, 2014 09:25 AM

                  Hahaha.

                  That's funny.

                  How do they make the food worse ????????????

                  I've never understood why they would make the food worse but then again sometimes things don't really make sense.

            3. toitoi Jul 2, 2013 11:22 AM

              Yesterday, on my way back from LAX I decided to stop at Pann's for a patty melt.

              Ordered mine rare - please make certain the onions are grilled.

              Waitress comes back, says, "Medium rare?" I say, "No, rare."
              She goes back behind the counter and speaks with a woman standing there, and comes back. She says, "We aren't allowed to serve it rare. Do you want to speak with the owner?"

              My brain has become topsy-turvy, Not Allowed?!?!

              I say, "No," and get up from my seat, muttering, "Is your meat so old, your afraid." I left, and I'll never darken their door ever again.

              What kind of meat do you think they buy? Not allowed? OMG!

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                kevin Jul 2, 2013 01:00 PM

                Really ?

                That sounds very un-Pann like.

                But other Pann's regulars please chime in.

                I usally get it medium and it's still pretty damn juicy. And quite exceptional.

                Over there, with their beef, medium rare would still be quite good in my opinion.

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                  Servorg Jul 2, 2013 01:17 PM

                  Pann's accommodates my order of "rare medium-rare", which turns out very, very pink. I don't like truly "rare" burgers that much because they tend not to get the meat juices flowing or the caramelization flavor that I like.

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                    toitoi Jul 2, 2013 01:30 PM

                    Not me. Raw would be okay, but I know they don't serve tartar - wonder what they'd say if I asked for it raw. Ha-ha!

                    I've only had their patty melt once, and as you can see below and above, it was good. I gave it a 2nd try, and it didn't work out.

                    I believe if you search else - France, probably, you'll find a lengthy discussion about steak tartar - if you're interested. I ate horse meat.

                  2. re: kevin
                    toitoi Jul 2, 2013 01:18 PM

                    Kevin, I posted this last year - for the full post merely scroll up.

                    "The mouth watered when I read about Pann's patty melt, couldn't wait for one.

                    Today, i was about 4 miles away and decided the time was now. Ordered it medium rare, which is how it came. Their was absolutely no taste to the meat. The cheese seems to have been brushed on, not a melted slice or two. The onions weren't browned, they were crunchy and didn't even taste like a onion (probably frozen, and quickly thrown on the grill). I added Red Rooster Hot Sauce, but that appeared to have been tampered with as it flowed out of the bottle like water. I liked the rye bread, nice and crispy."

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                      Servorg Jul 2, 2013 01:28 PM

                      "Kevin, I posted this last year"

                      What? The post that kevin responded to shows as being posted 2 hours ago.

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                        toitoi Jul 2, 2013 01:32 PM

                        toitoi May 24, 2012 08:36 AM

                        The mouth watered when I read about Pann's patty melt, couldn't wait for one.

                        Today, i was about 4 miles away and decided the time was now. Ordered it medium rare, which is how it came. Their was absolutely no taste to the meat. The cheese seems to have been brushed on, not a melted slice or two. The onions weren't browned, they were crunchy and didn't even taste like a onion (probably frozen, and quickly thrown on the grill). I added Red Rooster Hot Sauce, but that appeared to have been tampered with as it flowed out of the bottle like water. I liked the rye bread, nice and crispy.

                        Also ordered a chocolate malt. I remember malted's from the 50s. and I swear today's didn't have any in it

                        I'll never make that illegal u-turn again.

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                          Servorg Jul 2, 2013 01:42 PM

                          But didn't you just re-post the same thing again 2 hours or so ago? Without any attribution to the other post from May of 2012? At least that is the post that kevin replied to (the one you just put up again, but now you're saying it was simply a copy from that post last May? Is that right? Man, talk about confusion reigning).

                          1. re: Servorg
                            toitoi Jul 2, 2013 01:53 PM

                            If you look at the thread, you'll see my 2 hour ago post was from a stop at Pann's yesterday.

                            Follow the thread down, I'm not confusing anyone. Just follow the (oh, Lord, I want to say "yellow brick road", but...) thread. Or start at the top and read all of them.

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                              Servorg Jul 2, 2013 02:06 PM

                              Your 2 hour ago post is all about trying to get a "rare" patty melt and you getting up and leaving without one when they wouldn't cook it that way. Your 1 hour ago post ("Today, i was about 4 miles away...") is about having a medium rare one that you actually ate and didn't like.

                              1. re: Servorg
                                toitoi Jul 2, 2013 02:37 PM

                                You're absolutely correct. However, I didn't like their medium rare last May 24, 2012, and on 1 July 2013 I asked for rare.

                                Servorg's post "Your 1 hour ago post ("Today, i was about 4 miles away...")" Read the date, that was from a year ago.

                                I know, I know, you've got nothing else to do and a good squabble will get you salivary glands goin' and you're gonna get in your car and drive to Pann's for a patty melt!

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                              kevin Jul 2, 2013 04:14 PM

                              I'm very confused too. But I responded to this post, I may have missed the earlier post from two years ago, or whatever the date was:

                              "Yesterday, on my way back from LAX I decided to stop at Pann's for a patty melt.

                              Ordered mine rare - please make certain the onions are grilled.

                              Waitress comes back, says, "Medium rare?" I say, "No, rare."
                              She goes back behind the counter and speaks with a woman standing there, and comes back. She says, "We aren't allowed to serve it rare. Do you want to speak with the owner?"

                              My brain has become topsy-turvy, Not Allowed?!?!

                              I say, "No," and get up from my seat, muttering, "Is your meat so old, your afraid." I left, and I'll never darken their door ever again.

                              What kind of meat do you think they buy? Not allowed? OMG!"

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                    ns1 Apr 11, 2013 10:19 AM

                    ok, major props to the patty melt at BRUXIE.

                    1/3rd pound angus IIRC with onions, cheese, carroway seeds, and "secret sauce".

                    the meat was delicious, onions/sauce/cheese combined perfectly, waffle was crunchy and delicious, and the carroway seeds gave you the rye feeling.

                    man, i want another one RIGHT NOW.

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                      kevin Apr 11, 2013 11:05 AM

                      I tried it too, but was not exactly a fan.

                      Now the one served at Pann's is one of the board's favorites but it also really really really fucking good.

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                        ns1 Apr 11, 2013 11:10 AM

                        any particular reason why not?

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                          kevin Apr 11, 2013 11:23 AM

                          I guess it just did not reach the heights of my new benchmark, the Pann's patty melt.

                          The way their fatty beef coalesces with the grilled, slightly caramelized onions and the melted American cheese (and usually I do detest american cheese) on the griddled rye bread exudes a certain perfection, if you will. There's a heavy duty animal pungency there too and it's quite filling, but it's filling in a good way, almost.

                          Maybe I'll have to take another tour of duty with Bruxie, but I wasn't a fan of their fried chicken with honey and hot sauce either. One thing I will say is that their purported "frozen custard" is not really the real stuff in my mind concerning its taste and texture. (On a side note, the frozen custard served at the burger joint on the Santa Monica Pier comes pretty damn close to perfection).

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                            ns1 Apr 11, 2013 12:55 PM

                            maybe sergio wasn't in the kitchen that day

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                              kevin Apr 11, 2013 01:47 PM

                              Sergio ?

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                                ns1 Apr 11, 2013 02:16 PM

                                c'mon man, any self respecting hound would get the coni seafood reference =P

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                                  bulavinaka Apr 11, 2013 06:33 PM

                                  Sergio and kevin's f-bombs are common knowledge here...

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                                  Tripeler Sep 20, 2013 06:31 PM

                                  I believe Sergio is actually famous for the "Party Melt".

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                                    kevin Sep 20, 2013 08:31 PM

                                    I'm quite sure that no one named Sergio works at Pann's.

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                                      Tripeler Sep 20, 2013 09:02 PM

                                      He's actually the private chef of a regular poster on this board.
                                      Actually, I would imagine that at least half the kitchen staff at Pann's are Hispanic.

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                                        kevin Sep 20, 2013 09:29 PM

                                        Maybe you have a point there.

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                                          Will Owen Sep 21, 2013 03:16 PM

                                          By my observation, it's about 100%. As it is in a lot of establishments both in LA County and the rest of the country, not excluding Asian ones.

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                                            ipsedixit Sep 22, 2013 07:28 PM

                                            100%?

                                            100% of what?

                                            All restaurants with entrees less than $20?

                                            All restaurants with no Michelin stars?

                                            All restaurants that are serial DHS/ICE offenders?

                                            All restaurants excluding those in Alaska?

                                            Do tell.

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                                              Servorg Sep 23, 2013 05:18 AM

                                              "All restaurants excluding those in Alaska?"

                                              Perhaps no exception needed: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/...

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                                                ipsedixit Sep 23, 2013 07:55 PM

                                                Why do you presume they would be "illegal"?

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                                                  Servorg Sep 23, 2013 08:29 PM

                                                  Because any state that hires illegals as policemen (where one would figure rigorous background checking would be pretty much assured since those they hire are given loaded weapons) are likely going to allow restaurants to put them in the kitchen without too much checking.

                      2. mrshankly May 29, 2012 11:07 AM

                        Pann's or Boneyard Bistro depending on which part of town I'm in.

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                          Mr Grub May 29, 2012 11:02 AM

                          The sublimely juicy patty melt at Fiddler's Bistro on 3rd has replaced Pann's as #1 in the Grubman's meatcentric heart.

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                            AAQjr May 29, 2012 10:45 AM

                            Short Order's Patty Melt with pimento cheese is #1 in my book

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                              kevin May 24, 2012 04:06 PM

                              i really liked the one that i had at Cafe 50s both the west la and venice location (the venice one is half the price, but it might have to do with the crummy atmosphere that i love at the venice locale and not just the food).

                              didn't like the one i had at Nick's, it felt like i was going to need triple cardiac bypass after eating their patty melt and not in a good way, and i didn't even have any fries with it, though i did have a pancake on the side, which was decent.

                              1. ipsedixit May 20, 2012 01:23 PM

                                While not the best, I have to give a vote to the patty melt at the Huntington Memorial Hospital Cafeteria.

                                Crunch, greasy sourdough, burger patty, American cheese and onions. Good stuff. And it's $3.50.

                                (The Chicken Fried Steak didn't look too shabby either, fwiw.)

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                                  lapizzamaven May 20, 2012 03:01 PM

                                  @ipsedixit...do you also get a free EKG at the hospital after one of those patty melts..or maybe a coupon for an ambulance ride...

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                                    kevin May 24, 2012 04:04 PM

                                    Yeah, I always wondered why hospital cafeterias always seem to serve such greasy burgers and fries and pizzas.

                                    Sadly, i guess it's like one-stop shopping.

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                                      ipsedixit May 24, 2012 08:34 PM

                                      Sadly, i guess it's like one-stop shopping.
                                      ___________________________

                                      No. I think hospital cafeterias know that their clientele want comfort food. If you are in a hospital long enough to have to eat a meal, things usually not going uphill.

                                2. khh1138 May 18, 2012 01:15 PM

                                  Pie N Burger is my favourite as well. I can get a serviceable one at The Original Tops, and I remember when I worked at JPL there was a super-cheap one in the cafeteria that wasn't bad at all, given the price (but you can't go there unless you work there, IIRC).

                                  1. Will Owen May 18, 2012 01:08 PM

                                    So far, Pann's. I tried one at P'n'B, and while I'm sure I just hit them on a bad day it was the antithesis of what J. Gold described: small patty, two tiny slivers of cheese NOT melted. I probably owe them another chance … honestly, the sacrifices I make for art!

                                    I must say that my favorite within a morning's drive is at the Busy Bee Café in Ventura. Not quite as gigantic as Pann's, but I thought the flavor balance was tops. Harry's Family Restaurant on San Fernando in Burbank has a very nice (and big!) one as well.

                                    I have to qualify all of this by saying that I don't care at all for grilled rye bread, and always get mine on grilled sourdough, which I adore above all other grilled breads.

                                    1. LA Buckeye Fan May 18, 2012 09:46 AM

                                      I really enjoyed the one at Boneyard Bistro. Expensive though it is.

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                                        kingpinjava May 28, 2012 03:30 PM

                                        Expensive but awesome. My absolute favorite. It's so rich however, I can only rarely eat them.

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                                          toitoi May 28, 2012 05:18 PM

                                          Southwest Patty Melt” * Grilled Rye Bread * Gruyere & Cheddar Cheeses * Sautéed Onions, Anaheim Chilies, & Bacon * Trio of Dipping Sauces (Avocado-Cilantro Ranch *1000 Island * Chipotle Aioli)

                                          Sounds awesome, next stop Sherman Oaks!

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                                            kevin May 28, 2012 08:23 PM

                                            Forgot to respond.

                                            I liked the Patty Melt at Pann's though it was not amazing nor earth shattering. But I do have to say the burger was dripping beef juices, the american cheese worked (though it didn't make it's presence felt to richly and saltely so a cheddar would have worked in this case too). I do have to say the burger was beefy. And it was good.

                                            Now if memory does not escape me, one of the best patty melts in memory is the one they make at Hamburger Hamlet. Though there aren't too many locations left so I'll have to check which ones are open and report back.

                                            One thing that bugged me about Pann's is when I ordered fresh fruit, it came with a tiny slice of melon. Not what I was expecting at all. Anyhow I demolished the whole sandwich in a matter of minutes and then afterwards felt heavy though not terribly heavy.

                                            Definitely a once in a blue moon sandwich for me.

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                                              toitoi May 28, 2012 08:32 PM

                                              Thanks Kevin - I'm on my way to Boneyard Bistro some Saturday lunch.

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                                                LesThePress May 29, 2012 04:01 PM

                                                Kevin,

                                                I agree with you that my all time favorite Patty Melt was at HH. However, upon a recent visit to one of the few remaining HH's, it was a shadow of the former restaurant and we will not be going back, for anything.

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                                                  BubblyOne May 29, 2012 06:41 PM

                                                  Les, so true. I must have had dozens of the open-faced beauties, even after Harry and Marilyn sold to (I think) Koo Koo Roo. Not sure who owns it now, but not worth a visit.

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                                                    kevin May 29, 2012 07:04 PM

                                                    Exactly, it was served open face at HH and then it was easy to fold over and make into a sandwich.

                                                    Come to think of it, it was way way way better than Pann's in my humble opinion.

                                                    And pair it with perhaps a small cup of lobster bisque and you have a great coffee shop dinner.

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                                                      LesThePress May 30, 2012 08:44 AM

                                                      According to their web site they have only 4 locations and are owned by the 'Hamlet Group', whoever that is.

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                                                        Peripatetic May 30, 2012 10:28 AM

                                                        They have only two remaining West Coast locations: Pasadena and Sherman Oaks. The patty melt ($12.50) is still on the (online) menu at both locations.

                                                        Nothing I've read on Chowhound has persuaded me it was worth trying HH, even when the Sunset Strip location was still open.

                                          2. wienermobile May 18, 2012 09:44 AM

                                            The John Henry patty melt with american cheese, grilled onion, pickle, creole mojo, on sourdough is pretty good at North End Cafe in Manhattan Beach.
                                            http://www.northendcaffe.net/

                                            1. wienermobile May 18, 2012 08:22 AM

                                              Pann's PATTY MELT, 2/3 LB with Melted American Cheese and Onions on Grilled Rye,,,so good. The Best in LA.
                                              http://www.panns.com/

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                                                ndukka562 May 18, 2012 08:32 AM

                                                Flo's in the Chino Airport.

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                                                  Servorg May 20, 2012 03:13 PM

                                                  Having had a Pann's Patty Melt last night for the umpteenth time I can safely say my favorite (which I've written up at least 2 times on this board) is this one. Still looking for its equal in the greater L.A. area.

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                                                    bulavinaka May 20, 2012 04:39 PM

                                                    I stopped ordering this animal because of its sheer size and my fear of Lipitor - but it is (or was for me?) the epitome of patty melts that I've enjoyed.

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                                                      kevin May 24, 2012 04:02 PM

                                                      I hope i can get it with cheddar cheese there.

                                                      then i'll be set.

                                                      can't really do american chz no more.

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                                                        jessejames Sep 20, 2013 04:16 PM

                                                        OK Servorg, in the eating crow department, I had a bit of time to kill on way to LAX and more than a bit of an appetite so decided to give this another shot. I'm glad I did. American cheese, grilled onions, medium rare, rye. It was juicy but not soggy and I'll say I slept very well on the plane. At least it tasted better than crow.

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                                                          Servorg Sep 20, 2013 04:22 PM

                                                          An honorable man in a land in need of them more than ever. Thanks for chiming back in with your report.

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                                                            Mr Taster Sep 20, 2013 06:39 PM

                                                            Indeed.

                                                            Mr Taster

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                                                              jessejames Sep 20, 2013 07:55 PM

                                                              Chow down this weekend

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                                                              jessejames Sep 22, 2013 07:38 PM

                                                              Forgot to mention it was so light I got a (free) side of beef gravy. Not foam. Not whatever. but gravy. Very nice.

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                                                          latindancer May 21, 2012 02:32 PM

                                                          +1

                                                          The wonderful grilled rye, with that memorable buttery crunch, and the dark caramelized onions makes it hard to beat.
                                                          My favorite.

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                                                            toitoi May 24, 2012 03:36 PM

                                                            The mouth watered when I read about Pann's patty melt, couldn't wait for one.

                                                            Today, i was about 4 miles away and decided the time was now. Ordered it medium rare, which is how it came. Their was absolutely no taste to the meat. The cheese seems to have been brushed on, not a melted slice or two. The onions weren't browned, they were crunchy and didn't even taste like a onion (probably frozen, and quickly thrown on the grill). I added Red Rooster Hot Sauce, but that appeared to have been tampered with as it flowed out of the bottle like water. I liked the rye bread, nice and crispy.

                                                            Also ordered a chocolate malt. I remember malted's from the 50s. and I swear today's didn't have any in it

                                                            I'll never make that illegal u-turn again.

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                                                              Servorg May 24, 2012 03:47 PM

                                                              Every Pann's patty melt I've ever had (probably up to around a dozen by this point) have looked exactly like this: http://www.google.com/imgres?hl=en&am... (except this one is done a little more than I get mine - which is medium rare).

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                                                                toitoi May 24, 2012 03:57 PM

                                                                What it looks like doesn't necessarily make it good - does it?

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                                                                  Servorg May 24, 2012 04:00 PM

                                                                  Mine have all been stellar. From the quality and beefy taste of the meat to the browning of the onions to the cheese and last, and certainly not least, the grilled rye bread.

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                                                                    toitoi May 24, 2012 04:12 PM

                                                                    Mime had no beefy taste, so the quality of the meat is questionable. The onions weren't browned, but I'll agree on the grilled rye bread.

                                                                    Where else have you eaten patty melts, besides your dozen at Pann's?

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                                                                      latindancer May 24, 2012 04:18 PM

                                                                      I had one @ Pann's 2 days ago...

                                                                      It's nothing like you've described. The onions are a dark brown and caramelized.

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                                                                        toitoi May 24, 2012 05:36 PM

                                                                        Not my onions - sorry.

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                                                                        Servorg May 24, 2012 04:28 PM

                                                                        "Where else have you eaten patty melts, besides your dozen at Pann's?"

                                                                        The Kettle in Manhattan Beach, the old Nichols in the Marina, Langer's, Nate 'n Al's, Junior's Deli and Weiler's Deli. There are others but those have been the most recent places.

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                                                                          Servorg May 24, 2012 04:47 PM

                                                                          One other place; Abe's http://abesdelinorthridge.com/

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                                                                      latindancer May 24, 2012 04:21 PM

                                                                      "What it looks like doesn't necessarily make it good - does it?'

                                                                      In this case....yes.
                                                                      It's one of the richest, most delicious patty melts I've ever tasted.
                                                                      Are you sure you were at Pann's?

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                                                                        kevin May 24, 2012 05:20 PM

                                                                        could it have been an off day? perhaps? ill give a try too hopefully its as good as you guys say.

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                                                                          toitoi May 24, 2012 05:37 PM

                                                                          Might have been an off day, as you say, but it's too far to drive to ever tempt me a second time.

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                                                                            Will Owen May 24, 2012 05:50 PM

                                                                            You hit an off day at Pann's, I hit an off day at P'n'B. I have to believe the latter at least, unless I can somehow convince myself that all the testifiers here AND J. Gold are delusional.

                                                                            I used to go to Pann's frequently when I had business in that part of town. As I no longer do that business I get by there maybe twice a year, but if possible always stop in there. They have their flaws - the corn muffins are irredeemably bad - but there's so much good stuff on the menu it's always worth a stop. I would urge you to do likewise IF you're over that way anyhow.

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                                                                            latindancer May 24, 2012 06:02 PM

                                                                            Kevin. Go. What do you have to lose? :).
                                                                            At the very least you'll say you've had better.
                                                                            At the very most you'll wish you'd never heard of the thing, like me, who has a craving at least once a week, and have to drive through heavy traffic down the 405 to get it.

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                                                                            toitoi May 24, 2012 05:41 PM

                                                                            I'm pleased that you had a satisfying melt., but pictures don't tell the whole story - it's the tastebuds in one's mouth.

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                                                                              latindancer May 24, 2012 05:49 PM

                                                                              Did you, by any chance, talk to someone there who could have explained why your patty melt was completely different than the one you'd read/heard about?
                                                                              I'm seriously baffled.
                                                                              Their patty melts have been consistently stellar for a long, long time....they're known for them.

                                                                              1. re: latindancer
                                                                                toitoi May 24, 2012 06:25 PM

                                                                                Talk to someone?

                                                                                I'm confused. i go to a recommended place and order the recommended dish. What I'm served doesn't compare to what I've read about it, so I'm distressed.

                                                                                I've gotten beefy flavor in a reply - mine had none.

                                                                                Another reply had browned onions - mine were white and crunchy, not thoroughly cooked.

                                                                                Something I didn't write in my original post was that the menu stated it was 2/3rds of a pound. I buy freshly chopped beef - 1/2 a pound, which because butchers don't usually under weigh, it's always over the 1/2 pound. At home, I flatten it and cook it and believe me it's a lot larger than what I had today. So I'm now adding that to the already burnt kettle.

                                                                                If it was rotten, I would have talked to someone, but it was eatable, but thoroughly undistinguished.

                                                                                1. re: toitoi
                                                                                  Servorg May 25, 2012 06:57 AM

                                                                                  Since you asked me where else I've eaten patty melts (and I dredged up the list) I'll do the same. Where do you like for a great PM? As I said, I keep trying to find the equal of the one "I" keep having at Pann's. I'll be grateful if you can point me to one that is equal or better, especially if it's in the greater West L.A. area.

                                                                                  1. re: Servorg
                                                                                    toitoi May 25, 2012 07:37 AM

                                                                                    I rarely eat any type of beef out, especially avoiding hamburgers. However, when I read about something that is so tempting and mouth-watering, I will drive to where it's being served. That was the case with Pann's patty melt.

                                                                                    It disappointed me based on all the raves on this thread, and I'm afraid that I can't point you to another place, as unfortunately I simply can't recall when I ate my last one.

                                                                                    Thanks for you list. But if I go to Nate 'n Al's or Junior's or Langers, it's not for a patty melt, but for - my arteries are getting angry - a ruben - and there, we have a whole other debate.

                                                                                    While typing this, I seem to recall a decent patty melt at The French Market (Quarter?) on Santa Monica in WeHo - but that was years ago.

                                                                                    1. re: toitoi
                                                                                      Servorg May 25, 2012 07:52 AM

                                                                                      I will say that the only time I have a patty melt at Pann's is for dinner. I don't know if you got a new cook or what the issue might have been when you were there, but anyplace can miss once in a while for whatever reason. Sorry it had to be on your visit to Pann's.

                                                                                      1. re: Servorg
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                                                                                        latindancer May 25, 2012 09:18 AM

                                                                                        I've only been there during the day.
                                                                                        Two days ago....I ordered to take out, from the hostess, waited, and she brought it to me after she double - checked to make sure everything was as ordered.

                                                                                        1. re: latindancer
                                                                                          Servorg May 25, 2012 09:19 AM

                                                                                          Good to know that the "daylight" patty melt lives up to my "after dark" samplings over the years... ;-D>

                                                                                          1. re: latindancer
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                                                                                            kevin May 25, 2012 11:03 AM

                                                                                            Done, end of story. I will hit it up today too.

                                                                                            Should I just get it with the american cheese or you think it would still be ok to substitute for cheddar ????

                                                                                            1. re: kevin
                                                                                              Servorg May 25, 2012 11:14 AM

                                                                                              I am unsure of availability of cheddar at Pann's. If they have it I am certain they would make the sub for you, but they may well not have it.

                                                                                              1. re: Servorg
                                                                                                wienermobile May 25, 2012 11:42 AM

                                                                                                Pann's does have cheddar.

                                                                                                1. re: wienermobile
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                                                                                                  kevin May 25, 2012 11:45 AM

                                                                                                  Now would it still taste as good with the cheddar because the beef and carmelized onions give the necessary punch ?

                                                                                                  1. re: kevin
                                                                                                    toitoi May 25, 2012 12:00 PM

                                                                                                    Make certain you ask for the onions to be carmelized.

                                                                                                    Regarding the ceddar, unless it's extra sharp and a quality brand I don't think you notice the difference. Mine, with American Cheese, was more like someone had brushed a bit of Cheese Whiz on the burger, not put a slice on top.

                                                                                                    The rye bread was outstanding.

                                                                                              2. re: kevin
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                                                                                                latindancer May 25, 2012 02:12 PM

                                                                                                Yay!

                                                                                                I've always ordered mine "medium" when asked my preference and leave it up to them to prepare it. I just can't imagine the cheese, of your choice, making any difference.
                                                                                                I hope you like it as much as you've read from the posters here and it'll be good to hear your feedback.

                                                                                                1. re: kevin
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                                                                                                  New Trial May 25, 2012 02:35 PM

                                                                                                  I had it with cheddar last night so that will not be an issue.

                                                                                                  1. re: kevin
                                                                                                    toitoi May 27, 2012 12:39 PM

                                                                                                    @Kevin - 2 days have passed since you said you were hitting Pann's.

                                                                                                    What happened? Everyone, well as least me, is awaiting your taste buds report.

                                                                                          2. re: toitoi
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                                                                                            latindancer May 25, 2012 08:15 AM

                                                                                            Several food items have been mentioned on CH that i, previously, had never heard of or tasted. Many posters are highly regarded for their experiences/taste/expertise.
                                                                                            The OP, in this case, and Servong happen to be some of them. If they mention something that they find exemplary then somewhere down the line I'll be trying it.
                                                                                            I'm a huge fan of fish and will drive many miles to a place I've read or heard about that serves something that sounds good to me.
                                                                                            If I arrived only to be served something that was the opposite of what I'd read on one of these boards....
                                                                                            You can be sure i'd bring it to the attention of the my server or the manager and explain why I came and what was wrong.
                                                                                            That's just me.

                                                                              2. re: wienermobile
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                                                                                kevin May 24, 2012 04:02 PM

                                                                                I never tried it but will now, in case I go there for the corned beef hash again or am not feelling the fried chicken wings and waffle for the day.

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