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Does anyone actually like Sandra Lee?

I have to say..I do..lol
Really.
I realize it isnt true from scratch cooking..so therefore in many eyes usnt a true xooking show.But I have gotten a few tips from her..shrugs
And I like the cocktail section
I am not saying she is amazing..I just like her and her show.
I know I am in a vast minority..so please refrain from petin me with cans of soup

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    1. Yeah, your post is the onley one I've read admitting you like her.
      Personally, I'm horrified she's actually on television....let alone having her name on "cookbooks".

      No worries about the typos. I have the same issue with my iPhone/iPad. Sometimes it's truly frightening to see what I've typed.

      1. I've used to enjoy watching her show only because I think the things she makes are typically gross but fascinating. For example, I could watch the kwanzaa cake episode every day of my life, it's so horrifying.

        That said, every so often, she'll make something that looks like it might be good and one time she made a holiday cocktail that looked so good that I had to make it. I brought it to a party and everyone thought it was amazing. So, after that, I stopped hating her as much.

        1. For reasons I can't explain, she annoys the heck out of me. And my feelings have nothing to do with my opinion on her food prep.

          I agree, some of the cocktails do look good.

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          1. re: cleobeach

            Dh says this too
            Her calls her the loud beige lady

            1. re: mizzdee

              My little boy was scared when he saw one of the Halloween episodes where she was dressed like a witch.

              Yet I stopped for a few minutes when I am flipping through the channels.

            1. Two words: Kwanzaa Cake.

              At least she's good comic relief.

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                  1. re: sunshine842

                    Okay, so many people have mentioned that Kwanzaa Cake that I had to watch the video. WOW! Is the frosting really the color of cement or is my monitor off? And could those candles have been ANY bigger???!! I can only conclude she was drunk or stoned. Possibly both.

                    1. re: gourmanda

                      there is so much wrong with that cake that I'm not sure you could find any right there.

                    2. re: sunshine842

                      Ridiculous made up cake for a ridiculous made up holiday.
                      Perfect match.

                        1. re: FoodChic

                          but most of the rest of them have a few hundred years' of tradition.

                          1. re: sunshine842

                            No, not all of them. And each one had to start somewhere.

                            It's ridiculous to dismiss any holiday someone celebrates as "made up" when they ALL are made up.

                            1. re: FoodChic

                              But there is no holiday as overwhelmingly ignored as that one. It was a running joke amongst my African-American friends in the US as to who was going to have the Kwanzaa party....I know there are people who do celebrate it, but the numbers are pretty small (and ask anyone outside the US if they even know what Kwanzaa is -- you'll be hard-put to find someone who does)

                              1. re: sunshine842

                                Ask how many Americans are aware of what May Day is or when Canadian Thanksgiving takes place. It doesn't matter if it's not important to you, it is important to someone else, and you're not in a position to place judgment on it.

                                1. re: FoodChic

                                  but all of those have a long history of tradition.

                                  and there's the rather blatant irony of Sandra Lee doing a cake that includes items that are not only NOT traditional to the holiday, but sound like maybe they might have something to do with it -- and they don't go together in the first place! (apple pie filling and Corn Nuts? Are you KIDDING?)

                                  We can pick on the Hanukah cake, too, if that would make you feel better -- then we're talking about a centuries-old holiday steeped in culture and tradition.

                                  Take a storebought angelfood cake (not kosher), cram the middle with storebought marshmallows (guess what, not kosher either), frost it with blue-tinted storebought frosting (again, not kosher) and decorate it with a long string of plastic pearls that she said she bought at the dollar store (um NOT edible, and who knows what would leach out of them, or where they've been stored) then top the whole thing off with a lopsided wire structure (made with more of those plastic pearls that have been who-knows-where) that's *supposed* to be a star of David but comes off looking like something you'd be proud of your two-year-old for making.

                                  Sure to get you thrown out of any party you dare to take it to. (or at least laughed at openly)

                                    1. re: chowdom

                                      pretty blunt, but there's nothing there I'd argue with.

                                      (that article is the reason why I can't slam Rachel Ray for anything but things like "yummo" and "sammies" -- she shows people how to make actual food from actual ingredients. I don't like her on-air persona, but I can't pick on what she does.)

                                      1. re: chowdom

                                        Oh my. I'd heard, natch, of the Kwanza cake mess, but had never seen that video.

                      1. I attended a live taping of one of her shows. Not impressed.

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                            1. re: sunshine842

                              She was taping a Christmas special at a home with a white kitchen, made many gaffes and had to keep retaping. Was angry because the turkey she was supposed to slather butter on was too wet to be slathered. Her crew had to correct her mispronunciations, joking to her to knock it off, after all she wasn't "Paula." I didn't think any worse of her, just didn't think any better of her either.

                          1. Careful! She just may be the New First Live In Girl Friend when Cuomo is elected in 2016. Now that my friends is the scariest thought. Perhaps she'll give up her show by that time.

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                            1. re: mzsnowhite

                              My dad is a political consultant and said that he'll have to marry her, and believe it or not, more people like her than don't. So she is a good +1 for him ...

                            2. I think she's a real cutie. Did you know she was the inventor of Kraft kurtians? Those crazy ass drapes that you could put up in dozens of styles to change it up in your rooms. Remember those?

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                                1. re: suzigirl

                                  The perks of a rich husband to bank roll things.

                                  1. re: Withnail42

                                    err, no -- a rich boyfriend, yes, but she did that one on her own.

                                    I can't stand her personality, and I detest her "cooking" -- but I can't attack her life story.

                                    1. re: Withnail42

                                      "The perks of a rich husband to bank roll things."

                                      Not in the least. Those curtains were way before the cooking stuff and Cuomo (boyfriend, not husband). She is a self-made woman.

                                      1. re: ttoommyy

                                        Yes, the curtains were either late 80's or early 90's.

                                        1. re: ttoommyy

                                          The Kurtain Kraft business ultimately failed. Then she married Bruce Karatz, multi-millionaire CEO in Los Angeles and that's how she got access to the media and TV people to get started with the cookbooks and TV show.

                                          1. re: pamf

                                            Ah I see. Thanks for the info. I guess a girl's gotta do what she can. I still admire her for becoming what she has from such a sad early life. Guess I'm just a sucker for a girl makes good story.

                                            1. re: ttoommyy

                                              I agree. It sounds like she really pulled herself up and made something of herself after growing up in a hellish environment.
                                              I can't watch her show for more than a couple of minutes, though.

                                          2. re: ttoommyy

                                            Yeah, but before Cuomo there was the husband who was CEO of KB Homes, and then she shacked up with the executive producer of Food Network.

                                              1. re: Withnail42

                                                Got it now. it wasn't clear at first.

                                        2. While I'm not a big fan, of her food or "table-scapes", as a woman I do admire her story. She was not ashamed to admit that she was poor or went hungry at times. Her humbleness impressed me. And I have to admit, I too love the kwanzaa cake episode. LOL

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                                          1. re: kpaumer

                                            "While I'm not a big fan, of her food or "table-scapes", as a woman I do admire her story. She was not ashamed to admit that she was poor or went hungry at times."

                                            I agree. She had a tough life and made the best of it. I admire her for that. So she cooks things most of us on CH would not cook...but many other people in the US would and do. if she gets the people who would use 100% processed food to use 30% or more fresh, all the better.

                                            As for the Kwanzaa cake debacle, I am sure we have all had a "Kwanzaa cake moment" at work; the only difference is that ours was not televised and viewed tens of thousands of times on YouTube.

                                          2. She clearly doesn't like food given what she does to it.

                                            1. She is lovely to look at, and has nice assets.
                                              But I am not a fan of her cooking techniques.

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                                              1. re: AdamD

                                                Well said like a totally PC guy. :-)

                                                1. When I first got married I had no clue how to do anything but toast. She, along with Rachel Ray and Paula Deen, helped me to learn shortcuts, basics and sparked my interrest in cooking. I think someone should approve her recipes aired on the show but other than that, I applaud anyone who makes a wonderful living doing what they love. Who knows, maybe she inspired a budding chef today.

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                                                  1. re: Ikkeikea

                                                    "When I first got married I had no clue how to do anything but toast. She, along with Rachel Ray and Paula Deen, helped me to learn shortcuts, basics and sparked my interrest in cooking."

                                                    That is truly wonderful to hear!

                                                  2. She doesn't irk me the way she seems to do to a lot of people, but I had to laugh when this character showed up in The Witcher(computer game). I couldn't figure out why the Midday Bride seemed familiar then it dawned on me. LOL

                                                    http://images.wikia.com/witcher/image...

                                                    1. she started off with a shortcut easy cooking type show, now she is doing a money saving type show and still uses garlic from a jar. you have to give her credit for still being in the air, someone out there is watcing.

                                                      1. When I first met Sandra Lee it was easy to be moved by her back story. But I was never a fan of the show, her cooking and lifestyle series of books. But she's making a solid living at it so who am I to judge her.

                                                        1. I look at her show from a different angle. There are many levels of cooking competency in the kitchen. Many people I know, men and women, have a tough time making a simple recipe. The majority of folks are lost in the kitchen. They are one step above spagetti in a can. Or they eat out most every night. That's a good mask of cooking skills. I see Sandra Lee as trying to get these people to at least feel a bit comfortable in the kitchen and not shop in the canned goods aisle all the time. It takes baby steps initially and she focuses on those. She caters to those people and trys to get them to think outside their narrow little box of flustered kitchen frustration. Just trying to get more people to eat better. That is a very different crowd than those who like to hang out on food blogs. And yes, many people were taught cooking by their parents (or cooking mentor). And many more of us, me included, were not. She has found a niche that needs to be presented. Good for her. And she's great eye candy too.

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                                                          1. re: Enigma3

                                                            I think you may be getting SL mixed up with another cooking host. Her "semi-ho philosophy" is that 70% of your food should be packaged goods with 30% fresh.

                                                            If people are flustered in the kitchen then watching Sandra's disjointed preparations and trying to understand her inarticulate descriptions of what she is doing is not going to be helpful.

                                                            Sandra also presents a lot of misinformation. She likes to throw around words like "healthy" and "organic" but then still ends up adding CreamOf soup and seasoning packets to everything. On her money saving meals show, her methodology for cutting the grocery budget is to use cheap cuts of meat with a huge pile of carbs. Hey, who cares what kind of nutrition you're providing for your family, it's only $3.95 per person.

                                                            There are quite a few other cooking hosts who can provide better guidance and clear instruction for those who are getting started in the kitchen. Kelsey Nixon (there's a recent thread on her here), Sara Moulton (no longer on FN but now on PBS), and even Rachel Ray all do a better job of presenting the basics.

                                                            1. re: pamf

                                                              ah but the line: And she's great eye candy too.
                                                              pretty much sums up what can be overlooked :)

                                                              1. re: pamf

                                                                Yep...I miss Sara Moulton -- but she wasn't glitzy or jittery enough to survive the SHAZAM mentality at FN.

                                                                Rachel Ray drives me bonkers-- I simply cannot watch her -- but I give her credit for showing people that you can make actual food from real ingredients....if she gets people into the kitchen one more night a week than they would have to make a meal that doesn't come out of a box or through a window....then she's doing a good service.

                                                                1. re: sunshine842

                                                                  Ditto on Sara Moulton. It's just a matter of time before Anne Burrell is gone, too. She's the only thing I record on FN.

                                                                  1. re: sunshine842

                                                                    Sara Moulton's show was the first cooking show I ever watched. I was inexperienced, it was like she was speaking a different language but I watched her every chance I got.

                                                                    I am not ashamed to admit Rachel Ray taught me to cook. I can understand why some peole don't like her but I think she does have value for people like me who were/are completely clueless about even the most basic cooking skills. I click past her as fast as I can now but somewhere in the world, a 20-something is learning to put a meal on the table.

                                                                    1. re: cleobeach

                                                                      and that's my point...she got you into the kitchen and making real food -- and for that I cannot pick on her too much (except for yummo. Sorry, but that just begs to be made fun of.)

                                                                      1. re: sunshine842

                                                                        Ha! Yeah, the kitchen baby talk is like nails on the blackboard.

                                                                        1. re: cleobeach

                                                                          What? You don't like sammies? I love wanting to hit my head against a wall when I hear these things.

                                                                          1. re: FoodChic

                                                                            ARGH! I want to hit my head against my monitor just readying "sammie!"

                                                                            I knew it was time for me to move on from RR when EVOO began to work on my nerves.

                                                                            1. re: cleobeach

                                                                              (in response to everybody above)

                                                                              Yes -- the reason I simply cannot watch her is because of all the cutesy little phrases -- I want to just smack her up side her bobbing, grinning head and shout "Woman, you are over 40 years old -- grow up and talk like a fucking adult!"

                                                                              (On second thought, I might just watch if there was a pottymouth version...that could get amusing)

                                                                              1. re: sunshine842

                                                                                Yeah, I feel that way when I see people write 'ur' or 'LOL' or can't even cobble together a full grammatical sentence.

                                                                                I guess there's always someone taking humanity down.

                                                                                1. re: Lizard

                                                                                  my son picks on me because I send texts that are spelled out and punctuated properly.

                                                                                  1. re: sunshine842

                                                                                    You're not alone. (I could also look on the 'bright' side: At least with 'ur' I can't see that someone doesn't know the difference between 'your' and 'you're'.)

                                                                                    But again, with you on infantile language. Ugh.

                                                                                    1. re: sunshine842

                                                                                      Does that mean he can recognize good grammar and correct spelling? He's in a shrinking minority.

                                                                                    2. re: Lizard

                                                                                      I'm okay with LOL -- just because it does convey an entire phrase, not just a sloppy, lazy shortcut....

                                                                                      Its and It's -- there, their, and they're -- and the infernal "ghost" apostrophe that appears where it shouldn't and disappears from where it should be

                                                                                      All drive me bonkers.

                                                                        2. re: sunshine842

                                                                          Agreed on all counts, down to the word "bonkers."

                                                                          1. re: LauraGrace

                                                                            (maybe "right out of my skull"? Stick around, I could get considerably more foul-mouthed than that.)

                                                                              1. re: LauraGrace

                                                                                LOL -- man, nobody would last very long with that one -- and to think it hasn't been updated since 2006 -- can you imagine how many more ways to "Pass Out With Rachel" you could add now?

                                                                                1. re: LauraGrace

                                                                                  I don't think anyone could make it through an entire episode before passing out...

                                                                                  8-)

                                                                                    1. re: kcshigekawa

                                                                                      and you say that like it's such a bad thing..... :D

                                                                        3. The cocktail at the end of the show makes me like her more than I would otherwise. She irritates me a lot less than Melissa D'Arabian. That lady makes me want to slap my tv screen for some reason that I can't quite put my finger on.

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                                                                          1. re: alliegator

                                                                            She is a bit annoying, isn't she? And how many times in one show can she mention having lived in France and her French husband???

                                                                          2. Can opener Barbie.

                                                                            I don't mind her show as long as the sound is off.

                                                                            1. I used to find Sandra Lee the 2nd most annoying person on Food TV (second only to Rachael Ray), but then the Food Network and the Cooking Channel got rid of pretty much ALL of their good programming and replaced it with endless hours of even more annoying people such as:

                                                                              Nadia G. (seriously, what IS this show?)
                                                                              Kelsey Nixon
                                                                              Guy Fieri
                                                                              Female Guy Fieri [aka Anne Burrell]
                                                                              Laura Calder
                                                                              Melissa d'Arabian
                                                                              the Neelys
                                                                              Claire Robinson
                                                                              Sunny Anderson
                                                                              Ingrid Hoffmann
                                                                              Roger Mooking
                                                                              Duff Goldman
                                                                              Anyone with a cupcake show

                                                                              Now, I will say that not all of them are bad chefs, but I find all of them EXTREMLY annoying as TV hosts, and I think their shows are generally a lot more dumbed down than they need to be. At least Sandra Lee has entertainment value (oh the Kwanzaa cake!).

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                                                                              1. re: biondanonima

                                                                                Close, I will only say that you forgot Hungry Girl. I can not turn off the TV fast enough. Giada. Paula Deen. Okay, pretty much the whole programming schedule. For some reason though Rachel Ray no longer bugs me. I guess she's pretty inoccuous after all the others.

                                                                                1. re: gourmanda

                                                                                  I had never even heard of Hungry Girl (Lisa Lillien) before I saw your post but thanks for the heads up - I'll avoid! Paula Deen and Giada annoy the crap out of me too, but I can at least watch their shows. Hearing just one nanosecond of Rachael Ray's voice makes me want to rip out my own vocal cords (and that's saying something, given that I'm an opera singer).

                                                                                  1. re: biondanonima

                                                                                    Oh thank God, I was starting to think that it was just me!!!

                                                                                  2. re: gourmanda

                                                                                    Hungry Girl-- I think she's doing more of a disservice than Pauler Dean and her 3 sticks of butter.
                                                                                    The way that she eschews fat is downright unhealthy. FAT is not a 4-letter word.

                                                                                  3. re: biondanonima

                                                                                    Laura Calder annoying? Not possible.

                                                                                    1. re: rasputina

                                                                                      I'd rather listen to Rachael Ray's voice turned up to 11 than Laura Calder's overly articulated prissiness.

                                                                                  4. No I do not like her one bit. Her personality is a weird cross of faux cheerful and Stepford. Like a cheerful zombie. I don't like her version of cooking at all. And I keep wanting to take her to a good undergarment expert to buy a good "brar" (trademark, Jill Zarin) to keep her girls from hanging down to her waist. She's filthy rich and surely could afford a better brar?

                                                                                    1. She seems like the type of person who lives on cardio, cottage cheese, and vodka. I watch her show and most of the time wonder how drunk is she?

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                                                                                      1. re: chickennosenshi

                                                                                        thanks - I just snorted coffee out of my nose... : - >
                                                                                        yep - remember that sketch on SNL back in the day when Lorrain Newman played the amphetamine-buzzed woman who does 80 million DIY stuff... ? yeah. Sandra Lee. speed-queen.

                                                                                      2. Reading this thread is funny. I'd have to say she's like Sutter Home White Zinfandel.

                                                                                        Am I beyond the age where I would buy a bottle for personal consumption, absolutely. But does that stop me from getting a glass of it when at a bar without a wine list or a restaurant where the house wine is boxed poured into a carafe. Nope. For what she does, it could be worse.

                                                                                        She doesn't try to be extravagant. Her target audience feeds their kids McDonald's for dinner 4x a week, getting that switched to anything else is a step up.

                                                                                        Just like white zin was the gateway for most undeveloped palettes to try wine, Sandra lee does the same for food.

                                                                                        That being said if there isn't something else on, I watch her. People I change the channel for - the Frontier Woman. I'd rather not have misogyny as a side to my TV watching.
                                                                                        Also, almost all food hosts have problems with their presentation esp Phrases that get over used. Ideas that get recycled. I love Ina but she's addicted to "really good" as in really good bread or butter or oil or meats. While she's taping in the Hamptons I don't think she realizes in some parts of the country really good is Saralee and Land O Lakes cold cuts and the only italian style bread is a hoagie style roll found next to the sliced bread and hamburger buns.

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                                                                                        1. re: ncghettogourmet

                                                                                          I am sure i will get flamed for this by the crowd but I really enjoy her Halloween specials . She doesnt take her self seriously , she is amusing in her great costumes ( queen Elizabeth the first , Cher etc ) and frankly I like her tablescapes .I can usually figure out when they will be on ( about 22 minutes in ) and i jsut tune in for that - great ideas for showers,birthday parties etc on the cheap ) I try to find positives in people and ignore those i dont care for , dont understand why people spend time watching shows they hate , just to complain . Lots of choices on the dial;

                                                                                          1. re: saltylady

                                                                                            agreed on the costumes...

                                                                                            but she lost me on her tablescapes when she was doing a "shabby chic" and said that "oh, this chair was sitting out by the curb to be thrown away" and it was sitting in the middle of the buffet table. She'd tacked on some sort of upholstery fringe that looked like something the cat had horked up (odd color variations, like it was stained, snags, etc) It was one of the most unappetizing displays for food I've ever seen.

                                                                                        2. I don't think SL is even a good teacher for beginners, especially her semi-homemade show. Sure, people used to cook like that, but not so much anymore.
                                                                                          I say start learning and cooking the right way.
                                                                                          What I don't understand is how she pitched a show, some sort of budget cooking show, after her semi-homemade show that clearly used premade ingredients that cost more than making them yourself, for the sake of cutting corners.
                                                                                          It chaps my behind to watch a gajillionaire wax on about how little $ per serving something costs. It's like watching Ina Garten shop at the Dollar Tree.

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                                                                                          1. Aw, you're talking about our semi-First Lady aka Crazy Aunt Sandy. Have to hand it to her, she's built a successful brand.

                                                                                            Actually, I run in the same circles with folks that know her (and the Guv) very well and she's a super nice person.

                                                                                            Her cooking? Hmm, it's interesting and I will leave it at that.

                                                                                            1. I do not, and in the spirit of Thanksgiving I leave you with this abomination that defies logic:
                                                                                              http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11...

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                                                                                              1. re: chowdom

                                                                                                Yeah, I saw that this morning, and thought "who cares about the turkey." All I could concentrate on was how well she spreads cross-contamination around. Her bare hands go directly from the turkey to her knife, from the turkey to the oven door handle, and in so many other ways. At least she should have made mention that if hand washing scenes were edited out of the final cut, one should be aware of the toxic bomb an inexperienced cook can shower all over a work space.

                                                                                                1. re: pitterpatter

                                                                                                  I would want to die if I served or ate that turkey!

                                                                                                2. re: chowdom

                                                                                                  You'd think by now she'd have a clue as to how to use a knife.

                                                                                                  1. re: Withnail42

                                                                                                    Yes ... but can anybody tear open a spice packet like she can.

                                                                                                3. DH and I are knocking out some Tday prep and I've got FN on for background noise.
                                                                                                  If I hear SL call focaccia, 'fokasha' one more time, I'm going to have to start drinking very early and heavily.
                                                                                                  OK, I'm changing the channel now ;-)

                                                                                                  1. I think Andrew Cuomo does !

                                                                                                    1. She just made her way down Broadway in the parade.

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                                                                                                      1. re: fldhkybnva

                                                                                                        I was watching the parade on NBC, and they didn't even mention her name!

                                                                                                        1. re: monavano

                                                                                                          They did and it was exquisite ...

                                                                                                          Because they mentioned her name and showed her waving on camera while describing the turkey on her float with "bobbing head" and "flapping wings". So the viewer thought they were describing her!! It was hysterical.

                                                                                                        2. re: fldhkybnva

                                                                                                          On the turkey float...something very appropriate in that.

                                                                                                          They did mention her name at the beginning. She was referred to as a 'lifestyle expert'.

                                                                                                        3. It's not that she doesn't cook from scratch, she doesn't even write her own recipes. She's just a TV personality essentially.

                                                                                                          When the online community started making fun of her "Kwanzaa Cake" recipe, they took it down off of Food Network, and another lady came forward and admitted to ghost writing it for her show.

                                                                                                          Some of her decorating/outfits are borderline racist - like when she is cooking Chinese food in a kimono and her hair in a bun with chopsticks in it, seriously?

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                                                                                                          1. re: Atomic76

                                                                                                            You mean you don't dress up according to cuisine?

                                                                                                            Personally I wear a moustache that hangs past my chin when I cook Chinese, a square one when I'm cooking wienerschnitzel and a handlebar for when I make chili.

                                                                                                            I'm partial to moustaches.

                                                                                                          2. I can't stand the food she makes, but I have to say that I have a lot of respect for her. I watched a chefography show on her background, and she certainly overcame a lot to get where she is today. I have nothing but respect for her as a person, even if I'd never consider making any of her food, or have any interest in watching her show.

                                                                                                            1. she is not as bad as Giada