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Would you eat baconaise? (It is OU certified)

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brokentelephone May 10, 2012 07:24 AM

I remember my grandfather wouldn't eat beef-fry because it was too similar to real bacon (he would quote Talmud about erring on the side of caution, etc).

I've never tried bacon, but am always curious what the fuss is about, and saw this stuff doesn't actually include real bacon, is it something you would serve your family?

I'm not actually kosher-kosher, but avoid pork/shellfish and mixing, and don't want to tempt myself too much in case I try it and lose my mind!

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    ferret May 10, 2012 07:28 AM

    I, and some other forum posters, am a fan of the company's bacon salt. I try to limit my mayonnaise consumption so I haven't purchased the Baconnaise. I don't see any harm in eating it - anyone who blames a mayonnaise product for tempting them into the "dark side" wasn't all that far from temptation in the first instance.

    The way I see it is that you can look at it as trying to imitate treif or you can look at it as adding a different flavor element to your cooking. The prohibition is not on smoked cured meats, it's on the animal. If we start skirting around flavor profiles then avoiding smoked turkey and pastrami would be erring on the side of caution.

    It's like the parable (some attribute it to rabbis, other monks, etc.) about the two rabbis who, approaching a stream, see a young maiden afraid to cross. One rabbi offers to carry her and she accepts. After they cross the other rabbi asks, "how could you carry a woman other than your wife?" to which rabbi #1 responds "I already put her down but apparently you're still carrying her."

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      njkosher May 10, 2012 08:02 AM

      Dont see this as any different to the kosher "bacon bits" that are sold. Agree that if you're that close to temptation, its not going to matter.
      We use the bacons bits regularly in salads, omelletes, etc.

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      MartyB May 10, 2012 08:09 AM

      Ah, the lure of the forbidden fruit!

      Can someone help fill out this list:

      Bacon -> Beef Fry
      Crab -> Mock Crab (I guess)
      Ham ->
      Pork Chops ->
      Lobster ->
      Shrimp ->

      Are there any other major food item that we are missing and (hopefully have kosher alternatives) after all, if we can send a man to the moon why cant they make a kosher substitute for _________ (fill in the blank).

      :)

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        DeisCane May 10, 2012 08:17 AM

        There is mock shrimp and lobster with heckschers, iirc. Ham flavor can be replaced by thyme (really) in recipes where you're just going for that mild smokiness. There are vegan ham steaks and pork chops available, but they don't have a heckscher.

        Very little of this appeals to me, frankly, beyond a gimmicky usage.

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          cheesecake17 May 10, 2012 08:35 AM

          I use thyme in split pea soup. Threw some in one day by accident and we really liked the flavor. It kinda does have a mild smoky flavor.

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            DeisCane May 10, 2012 01:17 PM

            Same here.

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          johnfogelman May 13, 2012 10:41 AM

          Trader Joe's pareve sausage-less Italian sausage is very good. They have the taste right, and the texture is almost there. Highly recommended.

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            calliope_nh May 13, 2012 11:05 AM

            Lobster ---> Monkfish? I am not kosher (or Jewish) but was surprised at the similarity in texture of the monkfish I tasted last summer and a lobster tail. There does seem to be some debate on whether monkfish itself is kosher. http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/273091

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              ferret May 13, 2012 05:57 PM

              While there may be controversy on Chowhound as to whether monkfish is kosher, the respected certification agencies are in unanimous agreement that it's not.

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              brokentelephone May 27, 2012 12:40 AM

              Apparently some types of ham taste exactly like corned beef.

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              Prettypoodle May 13, 2012 04:28 PM

              NOPE! Not even on a dare. I have tried the real stuff and dont like it at all:(

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                Miri1 May 25, 2012 01:25 PM

                Nope. I've lived without bacon for my entire thirty something years. No interest in a product that mimics the flavor.

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                jdh11 May 28, 2012 05:49 AM

                I would try it if I actually liked mayonnaise, which I don't. I bought a few bags of the bacon-flavored popcorn last year, but the kids and wife didn't like it all that much, and i didn't think it was all that great myself. I had a thought of doing a kosher "bacon" themed Mishloach Manot for Purim one year.

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