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May 5, 2012 09:13 PM

What would Emily Post do? [moved from New Orleans]

The set-up:

Eating out tonite at a place that on a typical Saturday night has a noise-scale score of about 5, on a 1 to 10 scale. Add in being Jazzfest, let's allow for a decibel point or two more. Fine. But when this 6-top of drunks is at an 11 all night, and not just volume-obnoxious but "You shoulda seen this b**ches (chest), effin uneffin believable rack" comments...Well, I couldn't take it any longer and said loudly, Will you idiots just shut the hell UP!!?? Dirty looks, I'm gonna kick your butt glares ensued. The owners had been trying to quiet them all night but didn't want to reach the point of asking them to either pipe down or leave, obviously. Hence the escalation.

What would you 'Hownders have done? I understand people trying to have fun, and being sauced, but should I have just taking a "grin and bear it" tact? My date thought so--yeah, forgot that part, it led to ME fighting with my girlfriend! Sheez...

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  1. I bet everyone else who could hear these douches were secretly applauding you. I think that their rudeness is what's rude, not your response. Where were you? We were at Root tonight, had a nice time, and thankfully no jerks there. Driving home afterward, on the other hand...

    Soon, soon, things will settle down!

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    1. re: noradeirdre

      We need to coordinate a meal together missy! Come to think of it, you'd have been my tag-team partner in shaming these louts! I'll refrain from naming the place as they are nice folks trying to establish themselves. And Root was...?

    2. I applaud you. Their behavior was that of teenage boys. After confronting them I would have told management and left to find a better place. If enough people were leaving, management would have shown them the door. Management shouldn't be cowards. If they don't confront them then they are giving them permission to act like they do. Alcohol doesn't help these situations either. Your date should have seen your actions as those of a man that wanted to have a pleasant evening. I would have been highly offended by their crude remarks about women. I am a woman and if no man stepped up to them, I wouldn't have had a problem in doing so.

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      1. re: texasredtop

        Thanks Tex! You may not see my reply here as the thread got moved to the "Not About Food" section from the New Orleans Board. Anyway, it felt like the right thing to do, thanks for your post!

      2. Good for you - at some point you have to draw the line between not causing trouble and letting them intrude on your evening.

        Since management didn't have the backbone -- kudos to you for doing so. At some point they need to realize that the income from that one six-top isn't going to come anywhere close to making up for the income lost because people won't be back (and may leave without dessert/coffee/etc because they just want to get away from these bozos.)

        1. I would not have made a fuss before talking it over with my dining partner. Also, on a Saturday night during Jazzfest, I think I would stay home...but that's just me.

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          1. re: escondido123

            true, but since they did decide to go out -- the fact that it's Jazzfest doesn't mean that there should be excuses made for assholery, either. OP did mention that they were willing to overlook it being a little noisier than usual.

            1. re: sunshine842

              I didn't mean it was an excuse, just to be expected. And I still would have asked my companion before confronting drunk guys.

              1. re: escondido123

                I probably shouldn't have used the word "fight". She just wanted us to suffer in silence, and I reached a point where I wasn't willing to remain quiet any longer. We agreed to disagree, all good.

            2. re: escondido123

              I agree with you, escondido. There's no excuse for people acting the way they do, but they do...
              it is what it is.
              There are occasions that, unless I'm in the mood to be around that type of behavior which exists inevitably on those occasions, I'll decide to stay home.
              New Orleans, Jazzfest, Saturday night....let's be realistic here.

              1. re: latindancer

                Not sure what you mean about being realistic. Because it was Saturday and one of the 7 days of Jazzfest? This was way off the beaten path, not a place Jazzfesters would've gone, which is why I chose it. You're giving them a pass they don't deserve.

                1. re: sanglier

                  I think people today are far far less civil than they were 30-40 years ago. I think it's because we assume they know better and give them a pass. When they are given the pass, they think their behavior is acceptable. I don't think such people should be tolerated in public. Just as the restaurants that have dozens of screaming children running all over the place, even toddlers. They are a hazard to other customers. I saw an elderly lady get tripped by one that ran in front of her, she was taken away in an ambulance. The child was too young to know better but the parents weren't. The way people behave in public today makes you wonder if they've ever been told "no" in their lives.

                    1. re: texasredtop

                      Ah, that golden age when everyone was respectful. Bwahahahahahaha.

                        1. re: linguafood

                          Yes, that golden age is *always* just a few decades ago, isn't it :)

                          1. re: DGresh

                            Yes. These will be referred to as "the good old days," at some point in the future.

                            When I was in school, I studied "History." Upon reflection, I now realize that I lived part of "history."


                      1. re: sanglier

                        Please. I'm not giving anyone a pass, never have, never will in cases like this. I simply pick my battles. "What would you Hounders have done?" was your question. Do you expect everyone to agree with what you did? I don't. People who are drinking and causing commotion are unpredictable. I live in a city where it's a good idea to think before you leap when something like this happens.
                        Did these people direct their drunken slurs toward your date? If they did then my feelings about it are much different.

                  1. I would have talked to my dining companion, then to management. If management continued to be ineffective, I would have talked to the offending party. However (and I suspect Emily Post would agree), I would not have used profanities. Doing that starts the descent towards the obvnoxiousness of the offending table.