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Fake Name May 3, 2012 01:13 PM

By the limited power vested in me as a Chowhound, I hereby start a fresh thread of an old topic. The old thread (entitled Part Deux) was getting too long and cumbersome to navigate, especially on a handheld device. It can be found at http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/807630

This process has been approved, supported and encouraged by the moderators.

  1. Fake Name May 3, 2012 01:16 PM

    Looks like Da Nino's Pizzeria adjacent to Baci's on Morena and Ashton Street is changing to "LUCE". Big demo/remod going on.

    Luce is a prominent name associated with a number of restaurant interiors around San Diego, and it's pure wild speculation on my part that there may be a correlation.

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      sdnosh May 3, 2012 04:57 PM

      Fake Name,
      By the even more limited power vested in me, I think you should create a new San Diego New Places Opening Tread each year!! So when we are feeling nostalgic or just board, we can look up this info by year!

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        bizzwriter May 4, 2012 01:53 PM

        YES. Great idea! Wish the opening AND closing threads were organized by year.

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        foodiechick May 3, 2012 09:47 PM

        Drove by that this afternoon. Looks like your speculation might be right, pretty expensive looking build out going on.

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          foodiechick May 3, 2012 09:51 PM

          Are they affiliated with the owners of Baci? On closer inspection:

          http://www.sandiegoluce.com./

          On a separate note, since you are the CH eyes and ears for Mission Hills...any idea when Brooklyn Girl will begin lunch service?

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            Fake Name May 4, 2012 04:56 AM

            Intresting. My wild-assed guess appears incorrect. That's how rumors get started!

            Dunno when lunch will start. They told us Saturday it would be in a month or so.

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              Beach Chick May 4, 2012 06:36 AM

              Luce...Italian Gastropub sounds lika my kinda place!

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                Beach Chick Aug 23, 2012 09:17 AM

                Luce bar and kitchen opens up next week..next door to Baci's on Morena blvd in Bay Park...900 square feet of Italian 'gastropub' goodness.
                Price range $4-$18..sample dishes...escargot pesto pizza, crispy organic chicken with brown butter truffle soubise.

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                  honkman Aug 23, 2012 09:20 AM

                  Soubise sauce is a Bechamel type sauce which also includes (pureed) onions

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                    MrKrispy Aug 28, 2012 11:23 AM

                    really hope this place turns out decent, need more good eats in that area.

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            saber May 6, 2012 02:12 PM

            New on Garnet. Papa Luna Empanadas. Looks small sort t of' cute. People in there. Anybody tried it yet?

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              Rodzilla May 6, 2012 11:33 PM

              I stopped in to grab a menu, great prices is all I can say so far

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                saber May 7, 2012 06:13 AM

                look interesting? worth a try?

            2. DiningDiva May 22, 2012 05:14 PM

              Word on the street (or at least the local parking lot) is that the old Fish Merchant space in the Keil's shopping center at Jackson & Navajo is being renovated into a fish market. Paper went up in the windows last week as well as the windows of the defunct ice cream/yogurt shop next door that had been vacant for nearly 3 years.

              While I think that's a pretty odd location for a fish market, if their product mix is well thought out and priced right, it just might work. No word yet on an opening date...heck, it doesn't even look like they've even begun the reno

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                JRSD May 22, 2012 10:36 PM

                I saw a truck outside yesterday and it looked like people were inside doing work. It would be nice to have a good fish market in the area.

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                  JRSD May 27, 2012 08:54 PM

                  I heard today that it will be a market/restaurant with the same owner as the Fish Bucket in Tierrasanta.

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                    DiningDiva May 27, 2012 11:22 PM

                    I was up there today and there were people in there working. It is the Fish Bucket, they had it written all over the paper in the windows along with the gist of their menu. The door was open so I stuck my head in to see what they were doing. Not much is going to fix that small space, but punching through to the old ice cream shop helped. Lots of galvanized tin going up on the walls.

                    Do we know where the Fish Bucket gets their fish?

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                      master815k May 28, 2012 04:48 PM

                      I actually live in Tierrasanta and love the fish bucket. Not sure where he gets his fish, but you can order from him to pick up fresh fish the next day. I've done it a few times with great results. Esp when I don't feel like driving out of my area.

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                  Island May 23, 2012 12:32 PM

                  Lexus Center Escondido is an auto dealership AND outdoor concert venue? Starting this week it also contains a "penthouse" restaurant. Vintana brought to you by the Chowhound favorite Cohn Group.

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                    svnirvana May 29, 2012 11:19 PM

                    It looks like a pretty nice room! i wish them well...

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                    dustchick May 28, 2012 03:30 PM

                    Pita Jungle in Hillcrest is now open. (Thank goodness!)

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                      notjustastomach May 28, 2012 03:57 PM

                      what up?

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                        dustchick May 28, 2012 04:01 PM

                        Pita Jungle helped sustain me through grad school in Tempe. It's one of the three restaurants back in the Phoenix metro area that I miss, so I'm glad that it's here. Don't be fooled by the name... it isn't a Pita Pit-type place. Here's a link to their menu:

                        http://pitajungle.com/menu/sd/starter...

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                          hungerpane Jun 14, 2012 10:14 AM

                          Yeah, I remember eating at their original location in some non-descript strip mall somewhere in Tempe back in the mid 90's. I do agree that the name is pretty awful.

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                            dustchick Jun 14, 2012 02:36 PM

                            That PJ location now takes up about half that non-descript strip mall. Only Phoenix business I know that expanded successfully during the recession and all of the light rail construction.

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                      hungerpane Jun 14, 2012 10:18 AM

                      Looks like Wolfgang Puck Pizza Bar is coming to town. Anyone know more about it? I know they are opening at the Paseo in Palm Desert. Just opened first location in Charlotte.

                      http://nrn.com/article/wolfgang-puck-...

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                        5881EL34 Jun 14, 2012 11:58 AM

                        In the building that formerly housed Black Box Studios and a cannabis dispensary just west of 25th and Broadway there appears to be a new venture from the owners of Pomegranate. The side of the building has a large pomegranate painted on it with "PECTOPAH" written over the top. The application for liquor license was credited to Pomegranate, LLC as well. Renovations also appear to be occuring.

                        Meanwhile, the 7-11 plaza right at 25th has a Kebab House going in at the former site of the El Salvadorian pupaseria that had been there for years.

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                          Dagney Aug 1, 2012 11:04 AM

                          I had the Kebab House Mediterranean salad the other day with lamb added. It was a decent sized salad for about $7. The meat was slightly dry, but the salad part was good. I think I was there on the first day of business. I'll go back.

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                          hungerpane Jul 30, 2012 10:52 AM

                          Nice to see Bradley Ogden (Arterra, Anthology) hasn't forgotten about SD. According to Eater, he's in the process of opening 3 casual restaurants in Houston, with SD and OC next on his list.

                          http://vegas.eater.com/archives/2012/...

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                            sdnosh Jul 30, 2012 05:00 PM

                            As I recall, Anthology had a bad reputation for food until Chef Bauer took over. So, is he actually going to be the chef or is he just putting his name to the restaurants?

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                              hungerpane Aug 1, 2012 07:58 PM

                              It looks as if he's going the Wolfgang Puck route.......Just slap his name on it and hopefully they will come. I never made it Anthology when he was there, I just remember all of the hoopla during his days at Arterra. Was that really almost 10 years ago?

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                            hungerpane Jul 30, 2012 10:55 AM

                            Anyone have anymore info on Project Pie? Looks like they are opening in SD and Carlsbad soon.

                            http://nrn.com/article/project-pie-launch-aggressive-growth-plan

                            http://projectpie.com/

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                              karaethon Aug 6, 2012 12:15 PM

                              Chin's on Convoy is now "Chef Chin". Apparently the owner bought out the Chin's on Miramar owner and now wants to start a chain of Chinese restaurants called Chef Chin throughout SoCal. The Convoy location is the first one and they will be bringing in a Chef from Shanghai to oversee the kitchen. While the name change is complete, the new Chef is not there yet (but apparently his menu is)

                              tl;dr - Name change, new chef, new menu, large aspirations, maybe possibly finally decent Chinese food in SD

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                                nessy Aug 6, 2012 03:59 PM

                                Does anyone know what is going in on Adams Avenue next to the Olde Sod? They are taking over three spaces, including the spot where Thai Joint went out of business.

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                                  hungerpane Aug 8, 2012 02:47 PM

                                  It's going to become Heights Tavern. From their FB page, I'm wondering if Will Ferrell is one of the partners? Especially since he seems to be a regular at nearby Blind Lady. And to add to this, the owners of Underbelly, Craft and Commerce and Neighborhood are opening a new resto in/around 30th and Adams sometime this year. Acclaimed chef Jason McLeod is back in SD and will be in charge. I'm happy to see the Adams Ave. corridor come into its own as far as entertainment/dining options go.

                                  http://www.facebook.com/HeightsTavern

                                  http://sandiegofoodfinds.com/?p=4371

                                  And speaking of the now closed Thai Joint, they've re-opened as Plumeria in the old Savory space on Park Blvd. in U-Heights. It's now vegetarian Thai, but don't let that fool you. Owners are awesome and the food is still pretty good.

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                                  hungerpane Aug 8, 2012 02:52 PM

                                  Nice....keep us posted on this one, karaethon

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                                  master815k Aug 9, 2012 09:31 AM

                                  New sports bar just opened where I live in Tierrasanta. Plan to make it over there this week to check it out. Crossing my fingers, we need some new blood here.
                                  http://championfield.com/

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                                    pickypicky Aug 9, 2012 11:46 AM

                                    Anybody know what's happening at corner of Lamont and Hornblend? Was Lamont Street Grill. This is PB. My hopes are not up.

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                                      foodiechick Aug 9, 2012 12:13 PM

                                      Complete redo of the property. "The Patio" supposedly opening September (but then, they were supposed to open in June).

                                      https://www.facebook.com/ThePatioSD

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                                        pickypicky Aug 9, 2012 12:52 PM

                                        Thanks!

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                                      hungerpane Aug 9, 2012 03:55 PM

                                      In case you aren't aware, Catt White (Little Italy Mercato) and Dale Steele have apparently leased a 92,000 warehouse in the East Village section of downtown, and are looking to turn it into a permanent public market................About time, right? Check out their kickstarter video promo below. Time to put your money where your mouth is if we want to have our own version of Granville Market. Let's help get the word out!!

                                      http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/9...

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                                        zmirzlina Aug 13, 2012 02:22 PM

                                        New pizza joint "coming soon" to the corner unit in South Park across the street from Alchemy and next to the tea place. I think this used to be a coffee roaster, IIRC.

                                        Name is up on the banner but wife drove by rather quick so I did not catch it.

                                        1. Beach Chick Aug 14, 2012 07:14 AM

                                          Anyone been to Cusp at the new Kimpton hotel..formerly known as Hotel La Jolla?

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                                            foodiechick Aug 14, 2012 11:51 AM

                                            Yes Chica. Still called Hotel La Jolla. Very cool outdoor lounge space on the ground floor by the pool called Hiatus. Penthouse dining room Cusp is a more relaxed atmosphere than its former incarnation. They redesigned the bar area so that it faces the great view, but cut the space in half to add a private event room and the bar view is not that great because all of the liquor bottles and taps are against the window. We have had most of the appetizers which were all very good but have not yet tried any of the entrees. The menus seems a little limited, hoping that is just a matter of "settling in". Free valet for the month of August, but after that it is valet parking only and a mandatory $7. Glass half full?

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                                              Beach Chick Aug 15, 2012 06:53 AM

                                              Gracias chica..
                                              $7 mandatory valet...don't think so..I'll park at the Shores if I have too.
                                              The liquor bottles are against the window so you can't see the view...who space designs these places?
                                              Might be a fun spot after the ponies..

                                          2. bizzwriter Aug 15, 2012 05:44 AM

                                            Fat Sal's Deli, going into the old Bustamante's space in PB.

                                            http://www.fatsalsdeli.com/Default.aspx

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                                              Encinitan Aug 15, 2012 11:29 AM

                                              Nosh Deli is taking over the former Quizno's location on El Camino Real in Encinitas. It will be serving Jewish deli type food. Yes, it will be pretty small. I don't expect much from them, but it should be better than nothing (I hope).

                                              1. El Chevere Aug 21, 2012 11:43 AM

                                                Drove past a Prep Kitchen in Del Mar this weekend--new or was there an existing one that is being renovated??

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                                                  Rodzilla Aug 21, 2012 12:02 PM

                                                  being renovated, there was a fire last year.

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                                                    honkman Aug 21, 2012 02:23 PM

                                                    Should reopen first week of September

                                                  2. firecooked Aug 23, 2012 12:10 PM

                                                    Chez Loma in Coronado has re-opened, new owner & chef, new decor, new menu. Was there last Tuesday, and pleasantly surprised: interesting app's and a well priced wine list. Wasn't especially hungry, so I didn't study the big plates, but looked like a nice selection. Will be going back!

                                                    1. ipsedixit Aug 28, 2012 07:58 AM

                                                      Sora in DTSD

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                                                        pickypicky Aug 28, 2012 10:11 AM

                                                        Anybody heard what's happening with Luce on Morena (Bay Ho area) ? Checkout lady in Siesel's yesterday told us the inside is gorgeous but doesn't know when it'll open. How great would it be to have some decent Italian in this town? ( oooops just saw yall had covered this above and can't delete.)

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                                                          DiningDiva Aug 28, 2012 12:30 PM

                                                          http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2012/a... - Scroll down to the bottom of the article

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                                                            pickypicky Aug 28, 2012 09:10 PM

                                                            thanks for the link, but I can't go there without a subscription. that's why I'm grateful when yall post food news here that I otherwise would miss.

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                                                              DiningDiva Aug 28, 2012 09:17 PM

                                                              Subscription?!?!?!???

                                                              I just Googled it and came up with the link. It opened just fine for me

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                                                                phee Aug 28, 2012 09:25 PM

                                                                I clicked it, too, and it asked for a subscription.

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                                                                  pickypicky Aug 29, 2012 06:50 AM

                                                                  Yep. The U-T is available to subscribers only now. Every once in a blue moon when I click it goes through, but lately, never. New policy.

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                                                                    Green_Turtle Aug 29, 2012 10:42 AM

                                                                    Just disable cookies or set your browser's privacy settings to its highest level and you should be able to view all the articles just fine.

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                                                                      DiningDiva Aug 29, 2012 01:00 PM

                                                                      Wow, I had no idea. I access the site from my computer at work so maybe I could see it because of the way our network is configured?

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                                                                        mikec Aug 29, 2012 02:38 PM

                                                                        I think signonsandiego gives each IP address a certain number of "article views" per month, about 10, IIRC. If you've gone over that limit, you get asked for your subscription.

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                                                                          pickypicky Aug 29, 2012 03:06 PM

                                                                          It's 15 articles a month. You can get to the Home page, but no articles over your limit. Not even through a link. Others who charge like NYT, allow access through links in blogs, other articles, but not Poppa Doug. That's why I'm always grateful to those who pass on U-T info here.

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                                                                            Green_Turtle Aug 29, 2012 05:12 PM

                                                                            It's not tied to your IP address. They use cookies to track how many articles you read from your browser. So the best way to get around the paywall is to disable cookies for utsandiego.com
                                                                            Here are instructions for Firefox:
                                                                            http://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/e...
                                                                            Google disabling cookies for other browsers (IE, Chrome, Safari, etc) if you don't know how to do it.

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                                                                              phee Aug 29, 2012 06:59 PM

                                                                              Here I thought I was so computer savvy. I didn't realize you could site-block cookies! That worked (I use Google Chrome), and thank you for the helpful tip!

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                                                                                pickypicky Aug 30, 2012 08:27 AM

                                                                                me either! Thanks G_T and phee! I'll try it.

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                                                                                  Green_Turtle Aug 30, 2012 10:52 AM

                                                                                  You're all welcome. I'll do what I can to stick it to the man (Papa Dougie).

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                                                                                    pickypicky Aug 30, 2012 12:46 PM

                                                                                    gosh, me too. I did what you said-- and it worked great for accessing the U-T. BUT I couldn't log in to any of my regular websites, even if I added their cookies as exempt. As long as your giving IT advice, can you help me?

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                                                                                      RB Hound Aug 30, 2012 01:05 PM

                                                                                      Almost all browsers have an "incognito mode"; can't one simply open their UT articles in that fashion?

                                                            2. bizzwriter Sep 18, 2012 04:58 PM

                                                              Just walked by the old (now defunct) Moroccan restaurant at the corner of Draper and Pearl in La Jolla -- big sign on the side announcing the fact that El Pescador Fish Market will be crossing the street and moving in.

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                                                                cstr Sep 19, 2012 05:34 AM

                                                                Yah, I saw that, great news for El Pescador!

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                                                                pickypicky Sep 19, 2012 05:47 AM

                                                                Wow! Thanks for the news. Hope El P can keep the vibe. It just won't seem the same not being next to Mitch's. At least for a while.

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                                                                  cstr Sep 19, 2012 07:52 AM

                                                                  Will certainly have more seating area, wonder if they'll expand the menu to include entree's.

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                                                                  pickypicky Nov 16, 2012 02:21 PM

                                                                  The Patio, on Lamont in PB. http://thepatioonlamont.com/menus/ And that's all I know.

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                                                                    keena Nov 16, 2012 09:46 PM

                                                                    Tandoori Chef opened in LJ where Sadaf used to be, next to Pizza on Pearl. They don't have a liquor license yet but we went for dinner the other night and were pleasantly surprized by very decent food and friendly service. I love Indian food so I am really happy to have one closer to where I live. It may not be awesome but it's definitely quite good and I like the fact that the service is good too...just need a Kingfisher!

                                                                    I spoke with the manager at El Pescador and he said it's all demo'd but they don't expect to open til June. Going to have table runners so there's not the usual cluster f* trying to get your food at the counter. Also some outdoor seating.

                                                                    1. chris2269 Nov 16, 2012 10:05 PM

                                                                      Pizzeria Venti is opening on Coast Highway in Oceanside. Just north of the corner of Mission and Coast Highway. They are a small chain...here is a cut and paste from their website

                                                                      Pizzeria Venti brings the tradition of Italy’s famous “Pizza al taglio” or pizza by the cut, to America and your town. We offer up to 20 different pizzas by the slice or full pan. Our ingredients are purchased locally and we offer in-season menu changes, creating signature dishes second to none.

                                                                      Flyer on the door also says 20 beers on tap and one of the areas largest wine lists all by the glass.

                                                                      I work across the street and that block is starting to become a very good area for food with TBG BBQ, and Petite Madeline Bakery already there.

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                                                                        Island Dec 19, 2012 05:07 PM

                                                                        For those in the Poway area, saw a sign that Sab-E-Lee is coming to Rancho Penasquitos. Assume it's owned by the same people that have the other 2 locations, but haven't been to either. How's the food? Could use something decent in this area.

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                                                                          RB Hound Dec 19, 2012 08:12 PM

                                                                          Where? Town Center (near Von's), or Plaza RPSQ (near Stater Bros.)?

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                                                                            Cathy Dec 20, 2012 05:08 AM

                                                                            13223 Black Mountain Road 92129

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                                                                              Island Dec 21, 2012 03:38 PM

                                                                              Vons

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                                                                            salustro Jan 29, 2013 10:37 AM

                                                                            buona forchetta (pizza) is now open in South Park. It is on Beech & 30th (directly across the street from Alchemy). After almost two years of planning and build-out, hey opened last weekend to tons of happy south parkers.

                                                                            We went on Sunday. There was an hour wait for a table inside (it's pretty small) so my hubby and I decided to take advantage of the pretty patio and outdoor heaters. It did not disappoint. The staff was already well organize so the service was on-point and the food was very promising. We split the arachini, the sardine insalata (arugula and white anchovies), and a pizza with rapini and sausage. The salad was great and the pizza crust was very tasty (nice and with a little chew and char). The sausage could have used some more fennel for kick, but it was a good start. Matteo (the owner/chef) also gave us a free slice of italian cheesecake for kicks. It was very tasty (it has a much more even ratio of crust to cheese and lots more fruit preserves on top than the american version). With two glasses of wine, our meal came to about $55. A steal! We'll be back for sure and are so happy they finally opened!

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                                                                              shouzen Jan 29, 2013 03:57 PM

                                                                              Have been waiting for this place to open. How does the pizza compare to Bruno?

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                                                                                salustro Jan 29, 2013 04:21 PM

                                                                                Good question because I love Bruno's pizza. I personally like Bruno's pizza slightly better because of their toppings, but granted, I have only had Buona's pizza once on their opening weekend so I need to give them some more time to develop and improve. I like Buona's atmosphere much better than Bruno's (which always feels a bit "unfinished" to me for some reason) and I appreciate the wider range of italian food at Buona's (salads, appetizers and it looks like they might have a special nightly hand cut pasta) than at Brunos. As for the crust, Bruno's is slightly heftier, which some people like/dislike depending on taste (I actually prefer Buona's slightly thinner pizza crust).

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                                                                                  shouzen Feb 17, 2013 09:29 AM

                                                                                  Visited here last night, after some drinks and apps at Polite Provisions.

                                                                                  Verdict on PP after 1 visit: good introduction to cocktails for casual drinkers. Drinks only $8. Bar is very high-volume (hence cocktails on tap being a great option for them). Cocktails need better balance, and too many are too sweet. Also need a better ice program. Not in the same league as Noble, but not trying to be. (Food from Soda & Swine this night was poor: undercooked fries and a Scotch Egg that fell apart - we cut our losses after those 2)

                                                                                  Verdict on Buona Forchetta after 1 visit: Did not try the non-pizza items. Crust needed more char (although it was nicely springy), and I felt they were cutting corners a bit due to the huge crowd. Had 5 pies here - for me, Bruno still reigns supreme in SD. Can't wait for Mozza to open...

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                                                                                    shouzen Feb 17, 2013 11:25 AM

                                                                                    One more thing: the tiramisu at BF is on point. It's the real deal, yay.

                                                                                    Random note: we recognized many of the FOH staff from Osteria Romantica. Seems like the former manager at Romantica is the owner of BF

                                                                            2. globocity Feb 17, 2013 04:56 PM

                                                                              Nate's Garden Grill in City Heights had a soft opening this weekend. My friends, very picky ones, and I were wholly impressed. We loved the grilled chicken sandwich, the flatbread with pancetta, kale sandwich, and pickled vegetables.

                                                                              Pretty large selection of beer on tap, I think they had a few from Stone.

                                                                              We will definitely come back for brunch and dinner. The location isn't too far for us North Parkians either.

                                                                              1. Stiflers_Mom Feb 18, 2013 08:04 AM

                                                                                We've been to Fathom Bistro Bait and Tackle on the Shelter Island fishing pier a few times since it has opened. The menu is simple w/ a focus on house made items - sausages, burgers, and kimchi served on amoroso rolls. 12 beers on tap.

                                                                                The interior is small (capacity 15-ish), but the outside seating and the view are fantastic. When it's sunny and 70 on a Saturday in February, this is the kind of place that makes you remember why San Diego is such an amazing place to call home.

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                                                                                  mcgrath Feb 19, 2013 11:23 AM

                                                                                  I'd heard the proprietor at Fathom previously worked behind the bar at Hamilton's so one can probably expect the beers to be top notch. I haven't been yet but will gp soon.

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                                                                                    MrKrispy Feb 20, 2013 02:24 PM

                                                                                    yeah it is Dennis...he was there since i can remember

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                                                                                  salustro May 7, 2013 07:43 AM

                                                                                  Piacere mio is now open in south park at the corner of grape and fern - directly across the street from the abbey and the IGA. Those of you who have been to buona forchetta will recognize one of the owners (stefano) with his handlebar mustache. Coffee, salads (look very similar to buona's tasty salads), sandwiches, Italian pastries (including cannolis) - will be a good addition to south park which lacks a good lunch salad option. Open 7 to 7.

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                                                                                    Encinitan May 7, 2013 08:13 PM

                                                                                    A place called Lobster West is due to open off coast highway in Encinitas in June or a little later. In an Encinitas Patch article, the owner indicates that they will serve lobster rolls with fresh Maine lobster. The owner states that "Our rolls are not laden with mayo or celery or filler, just fresh seafood and drawn butter and lemon."

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                                                                                      chris2269 May 7, 2013 09:19 PM

                                                                                      Sounds great but I have been promised many things. Hope they pull it off.

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                                                                                        littlestevie May 8, 2013 01:30 PM

                                                                                        Yeah it is going in where that old Subway was in the Lumberyard. The competition is definitly ramping up around there. Hope they can make it

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                                                                                        DoctorChow May 8, 2013 09:14 PM

                                                                                        Does anyone know when the new Zion Market is going to open? Last I heard, I think it was supposed to be August this year. Also, any hints as to whether it'll have a dine-in food area?

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                                                                                          Cathy May 9, 2013 06:16 AM

                                                                                          The AYCE Korean BBQ along the side of the building is already open. Saw this blog post about it: http://kirbiecravings.com/2013/05/taegukgi-korean-bbq-house.html (There is no website that I can find

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                                                                                          The Paris Baguette website http://www.ParisBaguetteUSA.com/Paris... lists that a location will be inside Zion.

                                                                                          I would think since the building used to be a Kmart/Sears, and the old Zion is not at all that large, that there will be many eat in/food court type franchises like the HMarts in LA have.(DeliManjoo, Tous les Jours, etc). This would also explain the more than one year renovations taking place inside the building.

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                                                                                            DoctorChow May 9, 2013 02:22 PM

                                                                                            Ha! I took the long-cut on an errand just now and drove past Zion, and sure enough! Well, they've made a lot of progress since I last passed through that intersection, which was only about a month ago. I'm pretty sure the BBQ restaurant wasn't there then. I hope your intuition about them using some of the vast space inside for restaurants, but I hope they're not all franchises. That would be fun. Kind of like going to Ranch 99 with a place to park.

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                                                                                            Cathy May 25, 2013 12:29 PM

                                                                                            It opened yesterday.

                                                                                            I put up a short blog post last night. Mostly photos.

                                                                                            Half of the building is going to be franchises/storefronts. None of those are open yet.

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                                                                                              DoctorChow May 25, 2013 05:37 PM

                                                                                              Thanks!

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                                                                                              DoctorChow Jul 30, 2013 02:58 PM

                                                                                              I went over to Zion Market on Sunday and it was packed with people, 95% Asian. Good thing they have that huge parking lot. Going into the market felt like going into Walmart, though. It has a big-box look, very bland exterior. They need some plants or something outside. Inside, I was a little put off by the layout, which on the right (west) side looked and felt like an airport terminal fast food area, maybe one of the ones in the Atlanta airport. My companion liked that, though, so there you are. The grocery side is extremely well stocked with Korean things; produce looked good. Every checkout had a long line, like Ranch 99 does on weekends, so I guess people must be happy with the place. All but two or three of the many quick-food restaurants were open, and most of the large number of tables in the center dining area were taken. I decided going there on a weekend wasn't such a bright ides. I didn't eat there but will go back in a few weeks when all the restaurants are open. I glanced at menus, though. One of them advertised a spicy Korean soup that sounded interesting and was only $4.99, I think. That'll probably be my first excursion into the food there when I do go back.

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                                                                                                DoctorChow Oct 1, 2013 09:44 PM

                                                                                                First time back on Monday since the end of July. Still some food court places not yet open, but I was able to get some jjamppong at the one I was most interested in, Noodles J-I.

                                                                                                Mid-afternoon on Monday, there was no line to order. Still, the time for the food to come out was long enough to be mildly annoying. I think it was about 15-20 minutes, although I didn't have a watch.

                                                                                                This is a good-tasting and satifying large bowl of red-orange seafood-noodle soup, with some heat and nice seafood broth, for anyone unfamiliar. Not award-winning here, but pretty tasty. They say they make their own noodles daily. I'll be back.

                                                                                            3. Beach Chick May 15, 2013 06:54 AM

                                                                                              Tom Ham's Lighthouse on Harbor Island..
                                                                                              $3.5 million renovation with more outside patio seating w/downtown SD and bayfront view..location is great for drinks and apps on the back patio overlooking the bay.

                                                                                              http://sandiego.eater.com/archives/20...

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                                                                                                cstr May 15, 2013 07:35 AM

                                                                                                Have you tried their food? What did you think of it?

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                                                                                                  Beach Chick May 15, 2013 08:06 AM

                                                                                                  A long time ago and it blew big time.
                                                                                                  Believe it opens up this week or very soon.
                                                                                                  Probably a good place for drinks and apps.

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                                                                                                    honkman May 15, 2013 08:21 AM

                                                                                                    Why should it be a good place for drinks and apps ?

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                                                                                                      DiningDiva May 15, 2013 10:40 AM

                                                                                                      Because it has one of the best unobstructed Bay views, better than C-Level (or Peohe's) IMHO. With plenty of outside seating, which will be at a premium during the months when we have good weather, it could be a hot ticket.

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                                                                                                        honkman May 15, 2013 10:55 AM

                                                                                                        part of the discussion was removed but my point was that a good view doesn't mean there will be any good food or drinks and a good view can't make lousy food better

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                                                                                                          RB Hound May 15, 2013 10:57 AM

                                                                                                          I think what Beach Chick was trying to say was that you hardly are taking a big risk by having a few drinks and appetizers so that you can enjoy the view.

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                                                                                                            DoctorChow May 15, 2013 11:02 AM

                                                                                                            I completely agree with RB Hound. Gotta love that view. Just so the martini is shaken, not stirred.

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                                                                                                            DiningDiva May 15, 2013 12:55 PM

                                                                                                            Point taken, but in SD a good view often times does trump the food.

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                                                                                                              globocity May 15, 2013 07:08 PM

                                                                                                              C-Level is a perfect example of that.

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                                                                                                                cstr May 16, 2013 07:45 AM

                                                                                                                I don't need a restaurtant for a good view, I can get a good view with a folding chair in the trunk of my car and sit in the same vicinity with great bay views. If I'm going to a restaurant, my minimum expectations are decent food and drink. I believe BC made that case clearly by saying get and app and drink but, stay away from entrees'.

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                                                                                                                  notjustastomach May 16, 2013 08:12 AM

                                                                                                                  I am grateful for the fact that, in our humanity, we are complex beings, given to acting on multiple, sometimes contradictory, impulses.

                                                                                                                  As such, it is reasonable (if not rational) that an individual might occasionallygo to a restaurant seeking to maximize the gustatory experience, while at other times the same individual might go to a restaurant predominantly for the sake of social interaction, or because he wishes to sit quietly and introspect, while surrounded by the sounds of others.

                                                                                                                  I have never been to Tom Ham's Lighthouse. But, from the description, it makes sense to me that this restaurant might be the PERFECT restaurant for some people on some occasions. If all of us, always, necessarily went to restaurants predominantly for the food there would be many fewer restaurants in San Diego.

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                                                                                                                    cstr May 16, 2013 09:16 AM

                                                                                                                    Personally, I've never gone to a restaurant to admire the curtains, or chairs. However, I do get your point about getting the view with the comforts of a seat and table. I have the expectation that the establishment will offer a good product. Hopefully, the new chef etc will deliver!

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                                                                                                                    honkman May 16, 2013 08:57 AM

                                                                                                                    How is it possible to know yet that the drinks and apps are good and entrees not if the restaurant hasn't opened yet and has a new chef ?

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                                                                                                                      Fake Name May 16, 2013 09:02 AM

                                                                                                                      Well, there are certain consistent choices. If I choose a Artisanal Craft Beer, for example, it is likely to be identical (assuming proper handling) as anywhere else.

                                                                                                                      However, I might enjoy that product better on the balcony overlooking the bay than a basement grunge place with A LOUD DJ THAT BLOWS MY EARS OFF.

                                                                                                                      Same as, say- a name-brand single malt, a glass of premium wine, or even a cool iced tea.

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                                                                                                                        honkman May 16, 2013 09:29 AM

                                                                                                                        If the basement grunge place has better food to go with the Artisanal Craft Beer I couldn't care less about the view.

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                                                                                                                        Fake Name May 16, 2013 09:07 AM

                                                                                                                        Further, damage is limited by ordering an appetizer and giving it a chance. If said appetizer proves worthy, one may choose to increase one's exposure to potential financial damage by ordering another appetizer.

                                                                                                                        Should that appetizer prove worthy, a pattern is established- a pattern of possible good food. The venue may then be worthy of, say- a entree.

                                                                                                                        That is why one might suggest a "drink and an appetizer" as a way to become more familiar- (no, intimate!) in advance of a full investment.

                                                                                                                        If one is going to go somewhere for a beer and a basket of chips, this would be a good place (there's that line again) to go. That visit would provide the opportunity, in a low-risk investment environment, to asses the potential of further investment.

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                                                                                                                          honkman May 16, 2013 09:27 AM

                                                                                                                          I guess I have a different approach to new restaurants or restaurants with new chefs to give them the benefit of doubt and believe that they are good at what they are doing and I will enjoy the meal. Since I have seen many restaurants where the appetizers are great and the entrees are just mediocre and the other way around it is hard to predict with a new restaurant what is the best way to go and so it is my prefered way to order drinks, appetizers and entrees to fully get the whole "experience" to make a judgement if I want to revisit the any restaurant instead of making the decision on just an appetizer.

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                                                                                                                          cstr May 16, 2013 09:08 AM

                                                                                                                          I believe BC makes a good point and I trust her judgement based on her past experiences 'cus personally I don't know. For me, I feel more comfortable say for 'short money' the down side of an app is less painful, money wise, than a full blown entree. As for the drink part, see FN's post, makes clear sense.

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                                                                                                              foodiechick May 15, 2013 10:56 AM

                                                                                                              New Chef is Lance Repp. I haven't had his food in a couple of years, but he put out some very nice chow when he headed up the kitchen at La Valencia (including The Sky Room). May not be recognized as the brightest star in SD, but he will certainly bring more fresh and current cuisine to that old wedding/prom/rehearsal dinner venue.

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                                                                                                                Fake Name May 15, 2013 11:13 AM

                                                                                                                Huh.

                                                                                                                Sounds like it might be a great place for drinks and apps.

                                                                                                                Maybe I'll have a Artisanal Craft Beer.

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                                                                                                              Dagney May 15, 2013 11:55 AM

                                                                                                              Tom Ham's Lighthouse? I dined there for the prom. Late 80's ...lol....

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                                                                                                                DiningDiva May 15, 2013 12:54 PM

                                                                                                                We did some H.S. graduation thing there too...but it was a lot earlier than the late 80s ;-D

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                                                                                                                  DoctorChow May 15, 2013 03:32 PM

                                                                                                                  Not exactly sure how long Tom Ham's has been around, but I think I recall going there for drinks (and maybe an accompanying small snack) as far back as the late 70s. An institution of sorts. The view definitely trumps the food in this case. I think I only had a regular meal there once, which was enough. Maybe their new chef will raise the bar (so to speak).

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                                                                                                                    DiningDiva May 15, 2013 04:10 PM

                                                                                                                    IIRC, Tom Ham's opened around 1969 or 70.

                                                                                                                    I go there once a year since our department has had their annual Christmas luncheon there for at least the last 15 years. I never looked forward to it but politicially, it wasn't a function I could not attend.

                                                                                                                    The food was better this past Xmas than it had been for several years.

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                                                                                                                foodiechick Jun 3, 2013 01:56 PM

                                                                                                                Had lunch this weekend at the revamped Tom Ham's Lighthouse. The new, large, back patio deck is a very nice place to enjoy the view and warmth on a sunny Saturday afternoon. Lunch menu is limited but varied enough to accommodate most tastes. Decent wines by the glass prices, great selection of oysters. Shared 1/2 dozen plump little Kumomotos and the Ahi Crudo (nice but could have a bit more of a flavor foil). Hubby had the fish of the day (grilled snapper that was very good and perfectly cooked) and I had the baby kale and apple salad with Marcona almonds and grilled salmon. The food is definitely a step up from the past offerings, but, we also ordered well...I saw lots of large plates go by filled with gargantuan and unappetizing looking crab blts and fish and chips.

                                                                                                                We will go back...on a warm afternoon. It still may not be a regular rotation destination, but jump on in - the food is fine.

                                                                                                              3. scottca075 May 16, 2013 05:29 PM

                                                                                                                I an confused by parts duex et tres? Is there a quatre? Or is this the latest place for new openings?

                                                                                                                Blue Ribbon Rustic Kitchen from Wade Hageman going in in Hillcrest where the African place used to be on University and 5th St.

                                                                                                                http://www.blueribbonrustickitchen.com/

                                                                                                                Oh and Salt and Cleaver in Hillcrest too on 5th as well, was supposed to Sausage King, but had to change the name.

                                                                                                                1. Dagney May 26, 2013 04:42 AM

                                                                                                                  AND....for our next trick, the now defunct "Sora" will morph into "Meatball Cucina"...

                                                                                                                  slow clap

                                                                                                                  1. globocity May 26, 2013 05:28 PM

                                                                                                                    Nate's Garden Grill in City Heights. I've enjoyed dinner and brunch there. Great selection of craft beer. The location is odd although we were able to bike there from South Park. I hope this little gem will survive SD's tough restaurant biz.

                                                                                                                    1. beantowntitletown May 26, 2013 08:57 PM

                                                                                                                      Ballast Point plans to include a restaurant in its new brewery in Little Italy, and Colin MacLaggan will be executive chef. Planned opening is late summer.

                                                                                                                      http://sandiego.eater.com/archives/20...

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                                                                                                                        DoctorChow May 26, 2013 09:03 PM

                                                                                                                        Outstanding.

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                                                                                                                          ipsedixit May 26, 2013 09:40 PM

                                                                                                                          This is pretty exciting.

                                                                                                                          I just hope they don't get carried away with the whole infusing the food with beer theme that was mentioned in the eater article.

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                                                                                                                            jmtreg May 26, 2013 10:20 PM

                                                                                                                            Oh, its not just beer that they are serving, but all the experimental stuff. I am doubly stoked about this.

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                                                                                                                              beantowntitletown May 26, 2013 11:34 PM

                                                                                                                              In the Q&A article with Jack White he says that they won't infuse beer in a dish for the sake of it, only when it adds to the dish.

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                                                                                                                                ipsedixit May 27, 2013 06:15 AM

                                                                                                                                Yes, I know. They say that but who knows what actual execution will bring.

                                                                                                                                Nonetheless a good addition to Little Italy.

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                                                                                                                            Meatball Cucina (nee Sora) opening June 1.

                                                                                                                            1. globocity May 30, 2013 08:01 PM

                                                                                                                              Mike Hess Brewing is going in near the Salvation Army in NP. Never heard of this company but apparently it set up shot on Miramar in 2009. I'm curious.

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                                                                                                                                DougOLis May 30, 2013 11:11 PM

                                                                                                                                It used to just be Hess Brewing until their was a cease and desist from a winery up in Napa (I think) over the name. They were a tiny nano-brewery up near Alesmith and mostly did growler fills/pints. Some solid beers. None that I'd put up against the best of San Diego but still very drinkable beers, and they make several styles that other breweries around town aren't really doing.

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                                                                                                                                  globocity May 31, 2013 11:38 AM

                                                                                                                                  Sounds like a good addition to the ever-expanding North Park scene.

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                                                                                                                                  bocasdeltorro May 31, 2013 01:06 PM

                                                                                                                                  Does anyone know when this is supposed to open?

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                                                                                                                                    RB Hound May 31, 2013 05:45 PM

                                                                                                                                    Since Mike doesn't really have a solid opening date yet, the answer to your question is "no". :)

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                                                                                                                                      globocity May 31, 2013 08:02 PM

                                                                                                                                      Walked by yesterday. Looks like they have quite a ways to go until it is ready.

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                                                                                                                                        Stiflers_Mom Jun 1, 2013 06:52 AM

                                                                                                                                        According to Eater, it opens June 1st at 5 pm.

                                                                                                                                        Ooops, I thought the question was about meatball cucina. Won't let me delete. My bad. No idea when Mike Hess Brewing opens.

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                                                                                                                                          MrKrispy Jul 30, 2013 04:38 PM

                                                                                                                                          Mike Hess brewing is opening in August, they have a (sold out) Grand opening party on August 10th.

                                                                                                                                    2. Dagney May 30, 2013 11:51 PM

                                                                                                                                      The old Red Light District has reopened as Viva. Rode by tonight. Looks dark and sounds loud.

                                                                                                                                      1. foodiechick Feb 6, 2014 01:54 PM

                                                                                                                                        Not only is La Jolla getting a new outpost of Richard Walker's Pancake house at the end of Prospect, but heard this morning that we will be blessed with a new Cheesecake Factory...across the patio, in the SAME building. Sheesh, bad karma or what?

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                                                                                                                                          RB Hound Feb 6, 2014 02:03 PM

                                                                                                                                          Seriously? I sort of get the Gaslamp location, but it would seem that the La Jolla location would come with built-in limitations. It is very difficult to park in the village, and I doubt they have much if any of their own parking. The foot traffic there isn't *that* great.

                                                                                                                                          Across the patio would be the space that Barfly and Aroma currently occupy, yes? That isn't nearly as big as their usual footprint - this would have to be some sort of special scaled down cafe version. Maybe a place with only desserts and a limited number of sandwich selections?

                                                                                                                                          I'm not seeing it, foodiechick. I'm not doubting your sources, but something doesn't add up here.

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                                                                                                                                            littlestevie Feb 6, 2014 02:41 PM

                                                                                                                                            I too think that is kinda a strange location to open one up.I know one is going in North County Fair, that I can see. It really seems that they are moving into upscale mall locations at the expense of stand alone locations. Mom still lives up in WLA and I was driving her down San Vincente and I saw the CF there closed. I suppose because parking was tough in that location and there are lots of other better dining choices in that area, which sounds like La Jolla

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                                                                                                                                              RB Hound Feb 6, 2014 02:43 PM

                                                                                                                                              North County Fair has been open for a little while, AFAIK.

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                                                                                                                                              honkman Feb 8, 2014 08:07 AM

                                                                                                                                              I don't think it is s bad location for them with a lot of problems. I heard that the Smashburger around the corner is one of the best locations for them in SD in terms of revenue.

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                                                                                                                                                RB Hound Feb 8, 2014 04:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                True, but that is a fast food place, and Cheesecake Factory is definitely not one. But I'm wrong all the time here, so I could be wrong about this as well. :)

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                                                                                                                                                  honkman Feb 8, 2014 06:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                  I would include places like CF or Applebee in the fast food category. The meal time might be longer than at Smashburger but the business model, logistic etc is not different

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                                                                                                                                              Tripeler Feb 7, 2014 05:50 PM

                                                                                                                                              I'd consider the Cheesecake Factory as a sort of "trap door" to keep crowds away from better places. In a way, it is a blessing.

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                                                                                                                                                honkman Feb 8, 2014 08:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                Other businesses still need enough customers to survive

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                                                                                                                                              DoctorChow Feb 10, 2014 04:46 PM

                                                                                                                                              Well, it’s not going to win any accolades from pizza purists, but I’d never been to one so I thought I’d stop by for lunch at the newly opened Pieology on Balboa today. Yeah, it's kind of a fast-food pizza place, but not half bad.

                                                                                                                                              It’s has a make-your-own ‘za type arrangement, a la Subway sandwiches, and then your finished work of art is fast-baked and served. The pie is a decent size, about 12 or 13 inches in diameter, with an extremely thin crust that arrived at the table nice and crunchy toasty (although it later softened in the middle due to liquid from the marinara sauce).

                                                                                                                                              Other than it being really thin and cooked well, the crust isn’t anything to write home about, though, so luckily, unlike with some purists, crust isn’t the main thing for me. I do appreciate a flavorful crust, but for me to go away happy, it’s the overall taste and texture of the assembled and cooked pie that counts, including the toppings. (For those I chose herb butter, mozza and blue cheeses, marinara, a couple of meats, artichokes, red onions, and cilantro.) It wasn’t gourmet, maybe, but it was darn tasty, filled me up, and it set me back all of $8.

                                                                                                                                              For just having opened, they certainly had their act together, logistics-wise.

                                                                                                                                              Too bad they don’t serve beer.

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                                                                                                                                                MrKrispy Feb 10, 2014 04:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                did you happen to notice how they cook the pizzas, i.e. conveyor belt or convection oven?

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                                                                                                                                                  DiningDiva Feb 10, 2014 05:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                  Woodstone pizza oven, which is gas fired with a stone (concrete really) floor, at about 600*

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                                                                                                                                                    DoctorChow Feb 11, 2014 01:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                    Not knowing much about restaurant equipment (well, nothing, actually), I looked at Woodstone's website. Looks like the one at Pieology uses direct heat (from the "stone" floor) plus indirect heat reflected from the top of the oven. Woodstone's website doesn't say anything about convection heating, though, so I guess my assumption was wrong about that. Seems to work well -- my pie was ready just a few minutes after I saw it go in.

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                                                                                                                                                      DiningDiva Feb 11, 2014 02:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                      Woodstone does not use convection. The heating source is gas, and there is usually an adjustable flame in the back. It's a deceptively simple, but very effective piece of equipment. Blodgett deck ovens also are good for cooking pizzas. No convection there either.

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                                                                                                                                                    DoctorChow Feb 10, 2014 05:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                    It's hard to miss. There's a huge open-front oven behind the counter and a person who's job it is to shovel pizzas into the oven (and remove them) using a very long-handled wooden shovel-like tool. (I don't know what those things are called in pizza speak.) I assmumed the oven was a convection oven.

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                                                                                                                                                  DoctorChow Apr 8, 2014 09:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                  I see that Baleen on Paradise Point, Mission Bay, is re-opening this week. It's now being called "Tidal". It'll be interesting to see what's been done with the restaurant and menu.

                                                                                                                                                  I've been waiting for this one and will make a point go sometime in May.

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                                                                                                                                                    foodiechick Apr 9, 2014 01:15 AM

                                                                                                                                                    Agree. I wish they would open for lunch (at least on the weekends) to take full advantage of the beautiful outdoor space.

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                                                                                                                                                      Beach Chick Apr 9, 2014 03:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                      Exactly!!

                                                                                                                                                      Barefoot bar back in the days was a blast and we'd waterski all day and then hit up for drinks and apps....they had a huge dock with a Reggae band..nothing' finer on Sunday afternoon in the summertime.

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                                                                                                                                                        CampySD Apr 9, 2014 07:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                        That sounds awesome! Last time I was there, it was little more than a couple of chairs and a pretty weak drink list.

                                                                                                                                                  2. globocity Apr 11, 2014 05:56 AM

                                                                                                                                                    In the old Juan Chou space there will apparently be a "pan Asian bistro":

                                                                                                                                                    http://sandiego.eater.com/archives/20...

                                                                                                                                                    Anyone know how Brabant is doing?

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