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smartie Apr 22, 2012 07:13 PM

agggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh Penny, she's still mean.

The baskets were kind of boring, meat and potatoes - nobody transformed them into anything else.

Bread pudding should be banned.

was rehashing the last NFNS contestants the best they could do? (who won last season I cannot remember)?

  1. TrishUntrapped Apr 25, 2012 06:00 PM

    I still want to see Scott Conant cook with a basket of fish, cheese and onions.

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      DiningDiva Apr 25, 2012 06:26 PM

      :-). me too

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        smartie Apr 25, 2012 06:39 PM

        and cheap dried pasta

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          TrishUntrapped Apr 25, 2012 07:23 PM

          Yeah, and let's make this the dessert basket.

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            Janet from Richmond Apr 26, 2012 06:02 AM

            LOL.....love it!!

      2. cellophane_star Apr 24, 2012 07:51 PM

        I would not eat anything that Vegas guy cooked... Talk about unappealing

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        1. re: cellophane_star
          chicgail Apr 25, 2012 02:32 AM

          It's probably a good idea that you don't ever see most of the chefs who cook for you, cellophane.

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            cellophane_star Apr 25, 2012 07:33 AM

            Possibly but since he was vying for a spot as a TV show host factors into my opinion of him (not to mention the food itself wasn't appealing either).

        2. DiningDiva Apr 23, 2012 08:32 AM

          Penny sure hasn't changed has she :-) Middle Eastern food isn't exactly mainstream in the U.S., so her food probably was interesting to the judges.

          Pink pants? Chris wore pink chef pants (with a red jacket), someone needs to dress that boy...

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          1. re: DiningDiva
            paulj Apr 23, 2012 08:47 AM

            I was struck more by the 'I'm still the better cook' comments of the guy who lost the entree.

            These contestants were drawn from that season that produced the sandwich boy. Artie won the previous year - and competed last week.

            The next week is titled 'judges shakeup' or something like that (on the Wiki chopped episodes page). Maybe the fans will finally get 'mean' Alex's head.

            1. re: paulj
              DiningDiva Apr 23, 2012 09:38 AM

              While I'm interested in what Alex can do, I'm more interested in seeing Mark Murphy and Chris Santos cook.

              We've seen Alex and Marcus on The Next Iron Chef, but I don't think we've seen Mark and Chris cook much on FTV. They're more an unknown for me.

              And yeah, that "I'm still the better cook" guy was just a sore loser. His plate did not look better than the others and he was still rather stiff, wooden and not very appealing.

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                KrumTx Apr 23, 2012 04:03 PM

                I'd like to see Mark and Chris as well.

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              DGresh Apr 24, 2012 10:54 AM

              I actually didn't mind Penny as much this time. I definitely thought that her food seemed the most interesting (i.e. I'd most like eating). I thought her appetizer course was brilliant. I thought Justin acted like an ass on exit (though I kind of liked him on NFNS).

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                chowser Apr 24, 2012 11:20 AM

                I thought what Justin said was accurate,--he is a far better chef but he was a sore loser. I didn't like Penny at all. She was so full of herself and how wonderful her flavors,taste, etc. were. I can't wait to see her up against real chefs. Does she really think she can compete on the lines of the Iron Chef,, since she said she wants to be the next one? I don't know why they bring back the losers of NFNS on this show to compete, other than to show they can't. Last time around, the winner of the NFNS lost in the first round and it didn't seem close. They did much better this time than last, though, when Lisa didn't plate anything but deviled eggs.

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                  DGresh Apr 24, 2012 11:34 AM

                  I agree that she'll get blown away by any "real" chefs; I personally thought she did better than any of the impostors from last week's episode. Yes, Penny imagining herself as an Iron Chef is amusing. Thus far, I don't think Michael Symon has much to worry about.

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                    chowser Apr 24, 2012 12:26 PM

                    I agree. I was impressed with Jeffrey but Michael Symon has nothing to worry about with either. In fact, I think all the Iron Chefs could beat any of these contestants--there is no comparison. And, I think the Iron Chef contestants are far better than the NFNS, although it's an unfair comparison. I'd love to throw Top Chef contestants into this mix.

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                      DGresh Apr 24, 2012 12:44 PM

                      Or how about any of the people who have won the run-of-the-mill chopped shows? That might be a bit embarrassing though, since these are "all stars". I think most chopped champions would beat the FN "personalities".

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              riversuzyq Apr 23, 2012 08:30 AM

              ....Ohhhhh, you meant who won the NFNS last year!!! Duh! It was Artie Sequera (sic) <walks away shaking her head...” read the posts more carefully Suzy”.....>

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                riversuzyq Apr 23, 2012 08:26 AM

                #3 on the bread pudding! I think it was Aaron Sanchez who won last season. That beautiful blue cornmeal should have been transformed into a dessert tamale filled with the chutney, bacon and apricot!

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                  coney with everything Apr 23, 2012 10:01 AM

                  and while they're at it, no French toast/pain perdu...seriously

                  1. re: coney with everything
                    paulj Apr 23, 2012 10:37 AM

                    If bread is one of the key ingredients, then I can see doing bread pudding or french toast (with tough judging). But this case, one of the key ingredients was a flour. Pulling a brioche loaf off the shelf was a cop out. By the way, how did Vic used the blue corn flour?

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                      gonepoopin Apr 23, 2012 04:09 PM

                      The cornmeal was mixed into the pudding part.

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                        chowser Apr 24, 2012 11:16 AM

                        I'd think the opposite. If bread is one of the ingredients, the obvious thing is to do a bread pudding so it shouldn't be done since creativity is part of the scoring. It's like getting lettuce in the appetizer round and making a salad.

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                          paulj Apr 24, 2012 11:26 AM

                          The judges have rather rigid ideas of what constitutes a dessert. I believe it was Amanda in particular who complains if it isn't sweet enough, or reminds them more of breakfast than dessert. There's a strong tension between playing to their expectations, and being creative. Cakes go over well, if they bake in time. Producers must like cakes, because they add drama - will they cook, will they come out of the pan, etc.

                          What would you like to see them do with bread?

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                            chowser Apr 24, 2012 12:23 PM

                            It would depend on the bread but for $10,000 something more than an obvious bread pudding that any home cook could/would do. I'm not saying it's easy. But, it's part of the challenge. Start with caramelized bread crumbs:

                            http://www.giovannastrifles.com/2009/07/bread-crumbs.html

                            Toast/broil it and make a cracker like crust. Or use it like a streusel.

                            Warp it around something and fry it. Something like fried ice cream only there probably isn't ice cream. Fruit like bananas would work.

                            http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/gale-gand/deep-fried-ice-cream-recipe/index.html

                            http://www.kingshawaiian.com/recipes/desserts/FriedIceCream

                            Like an el bananarito:

                            http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/20110831-eight-finalists-for-big-tex-choice-awards.ece?ssimg=252665

                            Layered bread dessert:

                            http://www.foodista.com/recipe/CML4H3QJ/rupjmaizes-kartojums-layered-latvian-rye-bread-dessert

                            Deep fried nutella:

                            http://rasoithekitchen.blogspot.com/2011/03/day-2-deep-fried-nutella.html

                            Chocolate covered bread:

                            http://thewineandcheeseplace.blogspot.com/2011/06/chocolate-covered-bread.html

                            Make little sponge cakes w/ bread crumbs (the loaf takes 55 mins to bake--making little mini muffin size ones would be about 15 mins).

                            Apple betty w/ bread crumbs, but cook the apples on the stove first:

                            http://southernfood.about.com/od/appl...

                            1. re: paulj
                              huiray Apr 25, 2012 08:30 AM

                              "The judges have rather rigid ideas of what constitutes a dessert."
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                              Slightly OT, but I wonder about any connections in a general sense with the topic discussed in another thread: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/507205

                              1. re: paulj
                                chicgail Apr 25, 2012 10:33 AM

                                Actual bread is rarely in the dessert basket, although it is always in the pantry.

                                And I totally understand the complaint that "pan purdue" (French toast) reminds them of breakfast. It is breakfast.

                                1. re: chicgail
                                  paulj Apr 25, 2012 07:06 PM

                                  Is that how 'lost bread' is served in France? Yes, in the USA French Toast is considered a breakfast item, though when I was a kid we ate it at supper. But Laura Calder has a savory version seasoned with herbs. And the Spanish equivalent torijjas often appears in the dessert section of cookbooks.

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                                    chicgail Apr 26, 2012 04:16 AM

                                    It's not that French toast isn't cooked different ways in different parts of the world or that it can be served at meals other than breakfast. My point was simply that, in this country, it is not typically a dessert (or a savory entree). It is a breakfast food and, for that reason, reminds the judges of breakfast.

                        2. re: riversuzyq
                          moto Apr 23, 2012 11:15 AM

                          Appleman beat Sanchez in the final round last season. Sanchez made wonderful food to eliminate other Chopped judges (dessert round vs. Zakarian, and both made souffles), and in the first two courses of the finale, but slightly overbaked his chocolate cake at the end.

                          1. re: riversuzyq
                            chicgail Apr 24, 2012 01:55 AM

                            My first thought was similar, but I would have used the blue cornmeal in crepes.

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                            jeanmarieok Apr 23, 2012 08:23 AM

                            They really seemed to like Penny's food . I didn't think Vic had a chance in heck of winning. Not only should bread pudding be banned, so should french toast type desserts. Cop outs - all of them.

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