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drtechno Apr 20, 2012 09:18 AM

Thanks for everyone's input ! Hopefully I will have an excellent foodie adventure in Vegas. Honestly, I didn't even know about e one month ago and now its the focal point of my trip :)

July 17- Tues 9p Sage
Wed 8:30p e Jose Andres
Thurs 9p Raku
Fri 8:30p Joel Rob (and no, monsieur will not be wearing a jacket)

Regarding Raku, are the menu items essentially just bites (like the photos show) ? Just wondering how many I should be planning on eating. I want to spend a while eating, sampling, drinking, and hanging out.

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    Dave Feldman RE: drtechno Apr 20, 2012 07:14 PM

    I think you'll be happy. The plates vary in size. The grilled items are usually just a couple of bites, but some are much bigger. One important point: don't feel that you have to order everything at once. It's perfect OK to take it slow and order as you go along. I like the way you ordered the four, especially placing Raku after e.

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      PHXeater RE: drtechno Apr 26, 2012 02:49 PM

      Not going to lie, I'm pretty jealous of your itinerary (despite having been to 2/4 places already).

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        lechonbaboy RE: drtechno Apr 27, 2012 11:41 AM

        Your itenirary is so similar to mine.

        My culinary adventure runs from June 17-22

        1st day Sunday 17th arrive in Vegas at 1:30 pm, 6:00 dinner le cirque, BMG, late night eats sushi samba

        2nd day Monday 18th lunch monta noddle, 8:00 dinner sage

        3rd day Tuesday 19th 12:00 breakfast bouchon, ka, 9:30 dinner at twist

        4th day Wednesday 20th lunch at la cave, mystere, 9:30 dinner raku grill

        5th day Thursday 21st lunch at mon ami gabi, 8:30 show at e by Jose andres

        6th day Friday 22nd lunch at morels or enotica(both have great charcuterie) 3:00 flight back home

        Do you know what you will be doing at raku? Kaiseki, omakase, a la carte?
        I decided on doing a la carte as I can control what I want to try, and I will be trying almost everything.

        With the exception of raku and e, I will be getting the tasting menus for all the dinner resos.

        Degustation at le cirque
        3 course tasting at twist
        $79 signature tasting at sage
        Enjoy your trip 1 1/2 more months

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          zack RE: lechonbaboy Apr 27, 2012 12:37 PM

          FYI, at Sage there's also a chef's tasting 6-course option for $120. Here's a sample menu

          https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0YF...

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            drtechno RE: zack Apr 27, 2012 01:05 PM

            Thanks.. Actually looks pretty good. And beer pairing might be fun for a change. Certainly dogfish head midas touch is probably one of my favorite beers! That would be slammin with some foie gras.

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            drtechno RE: lechonbaboy Apr 27, 2012 01:08 PM

            You'll have to send back a report, especially regarding how you lunches/brunches were !! I can't wait for our trip. At Raku, I'm going to do the same thing as you: ala carte. Just like you said, I think it will be more fun to control the pace and what you want to eat a bit more than the regular chef-driven tastings (which I usually prefer). It will be a nice break from the other dining places in terms of tastes, atmosphere(?), and experience.

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            josephnl RE: drtechno Apr 27, 2012 12:43 PM

            Although a jacket is not required at Joel Rob, please keep in mind that this is a very special occasion restaurant. Many guests will save up for an entire year just to celebrate an event there...and most will dress up. So, even if monsieur chooses not to wear a coat, I hope that he will dress up a bit. This is definitely not a jeans and polo shirt type of place!

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              drtechno RE: josephnl Apr 27, 2012 01:03 PM

              ?? Since when did rolling into a restaurant without a jacket become equated to showing up in beach wear ?? I personally think that the presence of a coat relates directly to the year you were born, and nothing more. Monsieur always dresses up, but monsieur really really does not like sports coats .. Certainly not going to go there in a T-shirt.

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                josephnl RE: drtechno Apr 27, 2012 04:18 PM

                Unfortunately, I have seen patrons wearing jeans and a polo shirt (I did not say beach wear!) at both Le Cirque and Joel R. This is, imho, inappropriate. Oh, and speaking of generations, when I was last at Le Cirque there were two handsome boys about 5 and 10 years of age both wearing blue blazers, button down shrts and ties. They looked great! Having been to Joel R a few times, and not knowing Monsieur personally, I thought it appropriate to state that Joel R is a dressy restaurant. I'm sorry if I ruffled your feathers!

                Interesting how you relate wearing a coat to age. I think it has far more to do with where you grew up and how your parents dressed both themselves, and their kids, than it does to age. I know many young people who dress beautifully (both with and without coats), and as many older folk who don't.

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                  drtechno RE: josephnl Apr 28, 2012 04:05 PM

                  No worries :) Not offended. I'm more surprised at these other people that do show up in polo's and jeans ! Although I shouldn't be as I once saw a young lady (alright, she was my age but it's funnier to say young lady) show up in a vulgar T-shirt to a nice steakhouse.. unbelievable. Anyway, thanks for the information. Looking forward to the experience !

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                    josephnl RE: drtechno Apr 29, 2012 11:44 AM

                    I'm no longer shocked by how inappropriately some people dress at fine restaurants. Recently saw a very overweight young lady dressed in a tight t-shirt and shorts at one of San Diego's finest restaurants. Her "gentleman" dining partner was clad in a soiled t-shirt, shorts, plastic flip-flops, all topped off with a baseball cap worn backwards! Just perfect! When I chatted with the formally attired maitre d' about this, he told me that this happens at least weekly, and that unfortunately if you turn people like this away, you're looking for a fight or a lawsuit!

                    Regarding sports coats...I often wear a blazer. I feel comfortable so doing, and it's I'm sure related to my upbringing. Nevertheless, I've seen people who look like slobs wearing a coat, and others who are beautifully attired in shirt sleeves. It's all about style! Glad I didn't offend you, I didn't mean to.

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                  ttoommyy RE: drtechno Apr 30, 2012 01:38 PM

                  "I personally think that the presence of a coat relates directly to the year you were born, and nothing more."

                  Au contraire (thought I'd stick with the French thing). In my opinion, a man of any age looks handsome in a nice jacket. Be he 20 or 80. Here in NYC, I see 20-somethings dining out in jackets and sport coats. It has nothing at all to do with age, but everything to do with how one wants to present oneself and how comfortable one is in a jacket. I will agree they are not for everyone. But in my opinion, age has nothing to do with it.

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                    drtechno RE: ttoommyy Apr 30, 2012 06:42 PM

                    Based upon my point and your post, you are over the age of 40? I'll guess I'm correct. There's my point ;P

                    Anyway, its nice to see that in such a liberal place as LV, they have a more liberal dress code.. although as Josephnl mentioned, we don't want too liberal.

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                      ttoommyy RE: drtechno May 1, 2012 06:07 AM

                      "Based upon my point and your post, you are over the age of 40? I'll guess I'm correct. There's my point ;P"

                      Then how do you account for the 20-somethings I know who wear sports coats and recognize the time and place to wear one?

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                        drtechno RE: ttoommyy May 1, 2012 07:06 AM

                        There is always a vast minority that is an exception to a rule. Also remember just because they are wearing one does not mean they would have voluntarily ;)

                        By the way, it strikes me as odd that none of the Las Vegas restaurants appear on the Sam Pellegrino top 50 list.

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                          ttoommyy RE: drtechno May 1, 2012 07:34 AM

                          It may be a geographic thing as well. Most men of ages 20-50s I know here in NYC from work and other places will gladly put on a jacket when they feel the need to; and not because they have to but because they want to and like the look.

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                kagemusha49 RE: drtechno Apr 29, 2012 02:59 PM

                OK you've got dinner covered but what about breakfast/lunch? Cheap and excellent places to try would include Lotus of Siam, Julian Serrano - even the fish tacos at a chain like Baja Fresh. You can eat fast and well at some these places. There's a Baja Fresh on West Charleston on the way to Red Rock Canyon State Park - where you can see great scenery and try various hikes to burn off some of that foie gras.

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                  drtechno RE: kagemusha49 Apr 29, 2012 04:24 PM

                  Good question. I am at a loss for breakfast/lunch. Lotus is definitely on the list. I heard perhaps Bouchon for breakfast?

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                    ellenost RE: drtechno Apr 29, 2012 06:22 PM

                    Bouchon is my favorite LV breakfast.

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                      josephnl RE: ellenost Apr 29, 2012 07:22 PM

                      Although I agree that Bouchon is an excellent choice for breakfast, it's my second choice. I think that the food at Tableau at the Wynn is equally excellent (actually a bit more interesting, and I prefer their croissants), and the ambiance is much nicer. Certainly Bouchon has a very pleasant French bistro atmosphere, but the setting of Tableau (especially the round room) overlooking the gardens of the Wynn resort is exceptionally beautiful. You certainly will not go wrong at either place...perhaps you should try both.

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                        lechonbaboy RE: josephnl Apr 30, 2012 12:41 AM

                        If you had to choose between tableau or verandah both for food and al fresco which one would be most suited for a couple staying at the palazzo.

                        We are willing to shell out for a cab if verandah is worth it, the mini Eskimos at verandah look very tempting.

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                          drtechno RE: josephnl Apr 30, 2012 06:00 AM

                          Thanks. Yes, I had forgotten that I have Tableau written down too. I will be certain to give that a try. As lechonbaboy says below, is verandah worth the cab ride? I don't mind the fare, but I don't want to go through all that effort is the food is nothing special. Although perhaps I will combine that with my visit/walk of the southern side of the strip ? Sounds like a plan to me !

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                            lechonbaboy RE: drtechno Apr 30, 2012 12:31 PM

                            We decided on verandah as we need a reason to visit the south side of the strip.

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                          drtechno RE: ellenost Apr 30, 2012 05:58 AM

                          *drool
                          I will probably go there twice, once for traditional meat/boudin kind of stuff, and the second time for a more 'normal' breakfast :)

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