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ios94 Mar 24, 2012 04:02 PM

Snow crabs are already available at Atkins, they just set up their outdoor stall today. The guys told me they are 2 weeks earlier than usual.

[Note: This thread was split from the 2011 Jean-Talon Market thread here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/774787 -- The Chowhound Team]

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    ohyouneverknow RE: ios94 Apr 14, 2012 01:34 PM

    when does the outdoor section open? i am specifically looking for the chili vendor. thanks!

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      ios94 RE: ohyouneverknow Apr 14, 2012 08:21 PM

      If I'm not mistaken they typically go open air the first weekend of May. I was there today and it's starting to get crowded.

      Birri had a few seedlings for sale (lettuce, broccoli and some other unidentified Italian name seedling).

      Which chili vendor?

      Also available as of today, Matane shrimp at Atkins. Wow they were tasty.

      As well, Chevrier Buckland was back today with his cheese unfortunately he was out of his 6 month tomme by the afternoon and only had new stock available.

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        ios94 RE: ios94 Apr 19, 2012 09:32 AM

        Anyone try the macaroon stand next to Olives & Epices? I'm having a hard time justifying the $1.60 for a bite size portion.

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          Glaff RE: ios94 Apr 19, 2012 09:43 AM

          That's actually a normal price for a macaron...

          Who makes them? Are they from Point G or La maison du macaron or from someone else? And are they there everyday?

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            causeimhungry RE: Glaff Apr 19, 2012 09:52 AM

            If it was a regular size macaron then the price sounds normal, but if iso94 is talking about mini macarons (literally one bite), which I've seen in a couple shops, that price does sound a little high. Les Glaceurs in Westmount sells them 4/5$ and I thought even that was a little pricey.

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              ohyouneverknow RE: causeimhungry Apr 19, 2012 10:43 AM

              One can easily make two dozens in less than 40mins.

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                Glaff RE: ohyouneverknow Apr 19, 2012 10:48 AM

                Yes of course. That's why they are so bad at most places.

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                  marblebag RE: ohyouneverknow Apr 19, 2012 04:30 PM

                  Easily is relative to your luck and skill because in a class the pastry chef at Europea still managed to burn one batch of meringue.

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                    ohyouneverknow RE: marblebag Apr 20, 2012 11:45 AM

                    Burning is probably the last thing you have to worry when making macarons as it is only effected by baking time.

                    More common problems are too wet, lack of feet, hallow inside and peaks that won't settle down. But most of these can be easily fixed if the right ratio is used.

                    However, most receipts on the internet are not even close. That's why people fail and decide taking classes.

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          Mr F RE: ohyouneverknow Apr 21, 2012 10:22 AM

          As of yesterday afternoon there were awnings going up all over the place, but the winter walls were still standing. Looks like it could happen any day, but I don't know if there's a set date. If there isn't one, I'd expect this spell of wet, chilly weather to delay things a little.

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            ios94 RE: Mr F Apr 22, 2012 08:44 PM

            I asked someone today and was told that next Monday 4/30 will be the start of the outdoor season.

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              ohyouneverknow RE: ios94 Apr 23, 2012 07:41 PM

              Thank you. Finally!

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          Maximilien RE: ios94 Apr 28, 2012 11:36 AM

          FYI, Hamel received a batch of Burrata (at insane prices). ... alas there are no good tomatoes to go with them.

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            nextguy RE: Maximilien Apr 28, 2012 12:24 PM

            What is an insane price? On my way back from NYC I picked up two very large balls from Fresh Market in Albany for 9 USD.

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              Maximilien RE: nextguy Apr 28, 2012 02:05 PM

              30$ a ball. (I don't know about the amrican ones, but the ones at Hamel are flown in).

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                nextguy RE: Maximilien Apr 28, 2012 05:13 PM

                Oh my freaking god! Flown in or not... I remember having a few slices of their jamon iberico bellota, authentic I was assured, and finding it nothing like the one I had in Portugal, authentic from Spain I was again assured. I have had the real burrata while in Paris and found the American one decent for what, one-sixth the price? Anyways, I am not at all implying that authenticity is overrated but wow that is pricey.

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                  Maximilien RE: nextguy Apr 28, 2012 05:30 PM

                  As for the bellota, I find that we are not slicing it properly (machine vs. knife).

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                    nextguy RE: Maximilien Apr 29, 2012 06:32 AM

                    Hahaha I remember making that exact comment in a thread from last year. It was funny that when I ordered my slices from the young lady at the counter, she went in back to grab the jamon from what I guess was their super controlled fridge, and placed it on the slicer. The manager or senior guy came running over to grab it from her so that he could slice it, I guess worried that she wouldn't be able use the machine properly on their expensive ham.

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                  cherylmtl RE: Maximilien Apr 28, 2012 08:17 PM

                  They have it on occasion at Fromagerie Atwater - same price ($30). I'm sure it's good, but I haven't bought it.

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                    hala RE: Maximilien Apr 28, 2012 08:52 PM

                    Have the prices increased? I haven't bought any this year, but if I remember right, it was only a few dollars less last year at Fromagerie Atwater. It is worth every penny, if you can find good tomatoes. These things are amazing. Not an every day food, but when you want to splurge, money spent on them makes a huge difference.

                    @Nextguy, were the ones you picked in Albany flown in from Italy? All the local ones I have tasted pale next to the Italian one. Also, I think that the Italian burrattas come in 2 sizes, the smaller balls (pretty big) are about 16 dollars.

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                      nextguy RE: hala Apr 29, 2012 06:39 AM

                      It was not flown from Italy. I recognize that the authentic burrata is a superior product. The American one was not as rich for sure as the real stuff I had at Pierre Gagnaire in Paris. My point from before is that the price here is wildly expensive from a pure $$$ standpoint but that is not to say it isn't worth it if you desire it. But experience with the jamon iberico de bellota indicated to me that maybe Hamel does not get the absolute best product. I could be wrong of course.

                      BTW, if my memory is correct, I recall the burrata being less expensive last year at Hamel. Closer to low twenties. Perhaps even high teens.

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                        hala RE: nextguy Apr 29, 2012 02:24 PM

                        It is wildly expensive and if it's an inferior product, that's just absurd.

                        I agree with the jamon. Does anyone in Montreal know how to cut it? I hate to agree with you about Hamel, but you are right, sometimes their stuff is not what I expect for the prices we pay. The people there are always so lovely, but they have several times sold me a product that I felt was not the best. Is their Jean-Talon shop better?

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                lagatta RE: ios94 Apr 28, 2012 12:24 PM

                Atkins also has lovely little nordic shrimp.

                1. RhondaB RE: ios94 Apr 30, 2012 01:36 PM

                  Atkins has fresh halibut both filets & steaks. Also, saw fiddleheads being sold by a few vendors. Saw Quebec strawberris at Chez Nino but very $$$ - small containder (about 6 berries!) for $3.50.

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                    montrealeater RE: ios94 May 3, 2012 06:14 PM

                    Am going to hit JTM tomorrow with about $200 - any recommendations? I still don't feel like I've scratched the surface of that place. Recommend anything - meat, fish, charcuterie, fruit/veg, baked goods, cheese!

                    I am going to see if La Moutonniere has the 'Extreme Cream' (theyve only ever had to yoghurt the couple of times I've been - which is awesome and barnyardy) and also see if there are any of those nordic shrimp mentioned above - might make some UK style 'potted shrimp' if I can get some.

                    But, yes, recs please! Any seasonal items I should try?

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                      ios94 RE: montrealeater May 3, 2012 07:31 PM

                      I would definitely pick up some Halibut filets, Crab legs and shrimps from Atkins.
                      Cheese from Buckland, if he's not there on Friday go with Zachary Cloutier cheese at Hamel. Bavette or onglet from St Vincent.
                      Chorizo and Prosciutto (the smaller cut, I forget the Italian name right now, IIRC it's $80/kg sliced) from Cochons Tout Ronds.

                      Enjoy!

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                        lagatta RE: ios94 May 5, 2012 12:13 PM

                        Definitely recommend some sausages from Cochons tout ronds - I won't even suggest a particular kind, as you can sample them.

                        I'd love to be able to spend that! But then, I live close by, so never do a big shopping unless it is to make a special meal for guests.

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                        Maximilien RE: montrealeater May 3, 2012 08:06 PM

                        couple of Burrata and a few slices of Bellota Ham will put a dent in that budget. :-)

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                        montrealeater RE: ios94 May 5, 2012 01:08 PM

                        There was no burrata and no halibut! :( I really wanted to get both - esp. burrata as I have never had it before. Got some of the nordic shrimp - would definitely rather these had been raw, but I dunno, maybe that isn't possible. We had them for supper last night and ... well, they're shrimp, so they're good, but I wasn't wild about them and wouldnt buy them again - they seemed ever so slightly mealy. Perhaps in warming them I overcooked them. They had a sweetness and a stronger 'marine' flavour to them than the usual frozen/raw/huge shrimp I get.

                        Also picked up some cheese from La Moutonierre (again no Extreme Cream! does this even exist? I am starting to doubt...), some donuts and poppyseed brioche rolls from Wawel (yummm) and a crapton of veg, specifically asparagus.

                        Also got a punnet of those little Quebec strawberries. I counted - there were 12 berries, of average size. I didn't check the price but assume they were expensvie (someone above said as much) and they were nothing special. Perhaps slightly sweeter than your standard grocery store fare. And yes, I am aware I'm in the wrong place and at the wrong time of year if I want perfect strawbs - I'm not whining and I'm glad I tried them, because now I dont have to feel that perhaps I am missing out. Will it be possible to get better local strawberries a bit later in the season or am I SOL looking for these in Quebec?

                        I hope this thread stays lively, some of you are regulars at JTM and I find your knowledge really valuable and helpful. I want to hear what people bought, what they liked and didnt like etc.

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                          Maximilien RE: montrealeater May 5, 2012 06:10 PM

                          (IMO) The shrimps must be eaten cold, and it's the end of the season, they are better when al the eggs are still on them.

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                            ios94 RE: montrealeater May 5, 2012 07:24 PM

                            Where did you look for burrata? I saw it advertised out front at Qui Lait Cru on their sandwich board today.
                            Yup, tried to get halibut too today, nothing. I think June is when Halibut is more widely available, the guy told me last year that later in the summer they catch it "accidentally" so one day you'll see it and the next you won't.

                            Yah, you should have eaten the shrimp cold, I got the shelled ones a few weeks ago with eggs galore and they were fantastic I only noticed the unshelled ones today.

                            Local fiddleheads were also available today.

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                              Maximilien RE: ios94 May 6, 2012 08:39 AM

                              Hamel sold Burrata last week, I did not go to the market yet this week-end.

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                                montrealeater RE: Maximilien May 6, 2012 11:57 PM

                                We looked at Hamel (Friday) - they didn't have any.

                                And thanks for the advice on the nordic shrimps - I had no idea those were supposed to be eaten cold. I even have a Danish friend who eats them like this all the time and it didn't occur to me at all. What a div.

                                Good to hear re: the strawbs. I know it's too early in the season for local produce, but unfortunately knowing it apparently doesn't stop me from trying to force it not to be true by doing things like buying strawberries in early May and then being disappointed when they're not very good. The asparagus was good, even if it's imported. We ate so much of it I think I'm turning green.

                                Anyone have any thoughts on the hard sheep's cheese from La Moutonierre?

                                Mr F (and others) - please post here when there is seasonal, local stuff at JTM, I want to learn/eat more!

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                                  hala RE: montrealeater May 7, 2012 08:45 PM

                                  You guys inspired me to make a fiddlehead and nordic shrimp salad. Yummy.

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                              Mr F RE: montrealeater May 6, 2012 09:08 AM

                              "Will it be possible to get better local strawberries a bit later in the season or am I SOL looking for these in Quebec?"

                              It's really early for strawberries right now. Don't worry, there will be plenty of good ones later on at much better prices.

                              I'm guessing your asparagus was imported, too. Local product should be along soon, but it's still too early.

                              JTM is far from its best right now unless you're looking for seedlings, and even those are in thin supply compared to what you'll see in a week or two.

                              Just about the only local, outdoor-grown produce I saw yesterday (apart from last fall's apples and root vegetables) was fiddleheads.

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                                linzertorte RE: Mr F May 7, 2012 11:15 PM

                                True, but the fiddleheads are just outstanding!

                            3. RhondaB RE: ios94 May 8, 2012 02:42 PM

                              On Sunday, I saw that Atkins had lobsters but no idea for how much.

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                                ios94 RE: ios94 May 13, 2012 02:40 PM

                                Ok, I tried a macaroon at the Point G stand at JTM, it was worth the $1.85, I take back my original post.

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                                  Mr F RE: ios94 May 19, 2012 11:02 AM

                                  Local asparagus has arrived in large quantities, for good prices ($2-3/bunch).

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                                    ios94 RE: ios94 May 19, 2012 03:55 PM

                                    The Greek nuns from Troupeau Benit have set up at JTM, they will be there for at least 1 month is what I was told. Their cheeses were discussed on this thread a few years ago. http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/650367

                                    Their website is---

                                    http://www.monastere.org/Boutique.html

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                                      unlaced RE: ios94 May 19, 2012 08:33 PM

                                      Do you know specifically where they are located in the market? Thanks in advance!

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                                        Maximilien RE: unlaced May 19, 2012 08:50 PM

                                        I think they are in the middle lane on the north-east side of that lane; heck, just walk around, you'll find them. They have a small stall

                                        i'll go back tomorrow and have a look at what they have.

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                                          ios94 RE: unlaced May 20, 2012 12:07 AM

                                          Yup, what maximilien said, NE side of middle or last lane.
                                          They had yogurt, Feta, Graviera cheese, baklava and other baked goods, trahana, candles, soaps (from what I noticed).

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                                            ios94 RE: ios94 May 27, 2012 03:42 PM

                                            Local strawberries are in, first batch already excellent with the warm weather. Will only get better I'm assuming.

                                            BTW, lobster at Atkins 10.99/lb.

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                                        ios94 RE: ios94 Jul 25, 2012 02:11 PM

                                        Anyone know what happened to the guys selling duck sandwiches, cassoulet, aligot, etc... by the coffee shop on the east side of the market? I don't even remember their name on the banner.

                                        Seems that some ladies took over the location about one month ago and are selling Pibil sandwiches. Anyone try them yet?

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                                          Maximilien RE: ios94 Jul 25, 2012 02:55 PM

                                          Maybe they figured that with the very hot weather we had it was too much and people stopped buying them ?

                                          (I never tried it as I shop too early in the day for what they offered, !!)).

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                                            maisonbistro RE: ios94 Aug 1, 2012 07:40 PM

                                            I had one today- the Pibil sandwich that is. I was not impressed. It's nothing that made me go "ooooooh". It was edible, a generous portion, but overly greasy and honestly, I found lacking in flavour. The black bean paste they spread on the bread overpowered the meat- and the bottom bun quickly got soaked with grease- through the bean paste- so there was a lot of grease. It was $5, edible and I was full before finishing the whole thing- so in the end, not a bad deal- but I won't have another any time soon.

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                                            ios94 RE: ios94 Jul 28, 2012 04:24 PM

                                            The old spot that used to do the lamb outside who I believe is now located on the north side (I think they were the same) is being taken over by a place that will be called, Grange du Marché. Anyone know what they will be selling?

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                                              ios94 RE: ios94 Aug 11, 2012 01:18 PM

                                              Grange du Marché is now opened, they sell marinated meats and bottled oils, etc..
                                              Their pork samples were really good.

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                                                eat2much RE: ios94 Aug 11, 2012 03:40 PM

                                                Last year there was a vendor selling nothing but heirloom tomatoes. Any sightings this year?

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                                                  Simon Patrice RE: eat2much Aug 11, 2012 05:13 PM

                                                  I was there today and I haven't seen him yet.

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                                                    ios94 RE: eat2much Aug 11, 2012 06:48 PM

                                                    Yes, he was there as of today. Set up next to Premier Moisson like past years. See last year's thread.

                                                    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/801035

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                                                      meagain RE: ios94 Aug 11, 2012 08:47 PM

                                                      Yes, large exclusively tomatoes stand next to PM. Very cool spot.

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                                                        Erica2125 RE: ios94 Aug 12, 2012 09:59 AM

                                                        Best news I've heard all week!

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                                                          montrealeater RE: Erica2125 Aug 25, 2012 01:15 PM

                                                          What's the latest on Mssr Tomate/heirloom tomato seller with a different name? A friend went to JTM this week and I asked him to pick me up some tomatoes (from Tomate dude) and he said there was only one person selling tomatoes near Premiere Moisson and when he asked for heirlooms he was told a)no one wants them anymore so they're not selling them and b)but they do sell seeds. He found heirlooms with another general produce seller (the name involved the word 'Rouge') - they were pricey and juuust on the edge of overripe, a couple of them were.

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                                                            marblebag RE: montrealeater Aug 28, 2012 08:20 PM

                                                            Mont Rouge or Rougemont farm is selling the heirloom tomatoes. I tried the pineapple (almost no pulp/seed) and the black ones. They were better than the average supermarket ones for sure. I also tried their cross breed "sarmano" and made a basic tomato sauce - it was very sweet, almost too sweet.

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                                                  ios94 RE: ios94 Aug 19, 2012 05:37 PM

                                                  A "fine foods" store is opening at the old Joe & Basille location. Name escapes me right now, Italian sounding name IIRC (Something & Something Fine Foods).

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                                                    Maximilien RE: ios94 Aug 25, 2012 10:59 AM

                                                    Its "Nicola Travaglini - Aliments Fins - Fine Foods"

                                                    http://nicolatravaglini.com/fr/

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                                                      Glaff RE: Maximilien Aug 25, 2012 01:11 PM

                                                      Interesting. Is it already open?

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                                                        Maximilien RE: Glaff Aug 25, 2012 01:41 PM

                                                        not yet; i'd say 2 weeks before it opens (or a bit less)

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                                                    ios94 RE: ios94 Dec 2, 2012 11:08 PM

                                                    The guy who used to sell cassoulet and duck sandwiches is now back for the winter, he's now located in Hamel.

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                                                      ios94 RE: ios94 Feb 11, 2013 03:15 PM

                                                      Butcher-store fire impedes morning access to Jean Talon Market

                                                      "The one-storey building serves as the rear of 224 Place du Marché du Nord, on the market’s southern flank."

                                                      I'm guessing, "Boucherie du Marché"???

                                                      Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/Butche...

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                                                        lagatta RE: ios94 Feb 11, 2013 08:12 PM

                                                        Oh no. I go there so much, in particular for well-priced cheese. I've shopped there for ages; this makes me very sad for the management and staff.

                                                        I did check; yes according to the address on the web it is Boucherie du marché.

                                                        Is there not a 2013 Marché Jean-Talon thread?

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