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Kyo Ya... anyone tried it?

InsolentGourmet Apr 10, 2012 03:56 PM

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/11/din...

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    RGR Apr 10, 2012 07:55 PM

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      Pan Apr 11, 2012 10:55 AM

      Yes, indeed.

      Great review, though.

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        nextguy Apr 11, 2012 04:59 PM

        I was there just last week for the first day of their April menu. Really it was perhaps the best meal I had in a trip that included Corton, Marea, EMP, and a few other places. I am a complete newbie when it comes to kaiseiki. Although not every plate pleased my palate, they were all exciting and thought provoking. Service was also delightful and I regret now not asking more questions about the history and philosophy of each plate.

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          foodwhisperer Apr 12, 2012 09:35 PM

          Kyo Ya just got reviewed and 3 stars from NY Times. I think it should have 3 Michelin stars

          http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/11/din...

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          1. re: foodwhisperer
            sgordon Apr 13, 2012 05:31 AM

            I think it's easily as good as (if not better than) some of our current Mich-3s. It should at least have two as it's certainly on the level of Kajitsu and Soto (both deserving) - actually better IMHO. But Michelin, at least in NYC, has always been slow on the uptake with non-Western cuisines... (Or, really, non-French cuisines...)

            But to the OP: you'll find no lack of love for Kyo Ya on the message boards here, if you just do a search. One of the more extraordinary establishments in a city with many, though not for everyone - it's a cuisine of subtle nuance, rather than, say, the bombast of a Morimoto on the other side of the Japanese spectrum.

            Still a bit peeved at Wells, though. Not that Kyo Ya doesn't deserve it, but MAN is it gonna be impossible to get a reservation now...

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              Pan Apr 13, 2012 11:10 PM

              I'm not sure it deserves 3, if we were using Michelin France standards. I've been there only twice, though. The kaiseki my girlfriend and I had was one of the best meals I've ever eaten, but when I had an a la carte meal, it was merely very good and not close to the extraordinariness of that kaiseki. On the other hand, Michelin's standards seem to be different (and a bit all over the map) in New York.

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              sushiman May 1, 2012 08:58 AM

              Just had the 11 course Kaiseki dinner in the tatami room. Fantastic.

              It is more like 20 courses, as a few are doubled up and the zensei is half a dozen bites.

              The place is genius.

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                foodwhisperer May 1, 2012 12:41 PM

                Glad to hear of your fantastic experience at Kyo Ya. It's time for me to go back. .

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                  oferl May 1, 2012 01:26 PM

                  Can you please share more info on their Kaiseki options and their prices ? Are they open at lunch and serve also Kaisei tasting options ? I'm trying to find more info, but not much success yet.
                  And any other interesting Kaiseki options ? I have currently both Kyo Ya and Kujitsa in my list, one of course is vegetarian, but should i leave both to try or maybe save place for different options?

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                    kathryn May 1, 2012 01:58 PM

                    The NYT says:
                    PRICE RANGE Small plates, $7 to $16; larger plates, $24 to $35. Kaiseki menus, $95, $120 or $150.

                    HOURS Monday to Saturday, 5:30 to 11:30 p.m.; Sunday, 5:30 to 10:30 p.m.

                    The Menupages menu seems pretty accurate:
                    http://www.menupages.com/restaurants/...

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                      oferl May 1, 2012 02:23 PM

                      Thanks :-)

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                        kosmose7 May 1, 2012 03:24 PM

                        This menu is a bit old (Aug., 2011) but just for your reference.

                        For more photos:
                        http://blog.naver.com/kosmose7/901216...

                         
                         
                         
                         
                         
                         
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