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ElizabethS Apr 2, 2012 02:19 PM

With warm weather are fiddleheads/wild leeks early?

Has anyone seen them in stores?

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    OTFOODIE May 20, 2012 09:55 AM

    I was wondering if the Ontario CH'ers can help me identify an Allium family member.

    I was chatting with my neighbour, and there are plants that look like a tall grass growing in his garden. He said it was a wild plant in the onion/garlic family. Until last might, I didn't know what a ramp looked like, s at first I assumed they were ramps. I think I was wrong. My neighbour tells be that the bulb doesn't thinken. We tasted the leaf, which is long (12-15"), thin, with a v-shaped cross-section, and it was somewhat leak-like, but with a spiciness in the aftertaste.

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      ParkerQ May 20, 2012 02:31 PM

      it would help if you posted a picture...

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      ElizabethS Apr 14, 2012 01:20 PM

      Wild leeks at SLM this morning - Marvin reports Fiddleheads maybe next week

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        Finnegan Apr 16, 2012 08:54 AM

        How much do they cost

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          ElizabethS Apr 16, 2012 12:25 PM

          $2.50 a bunch - and it was a generous bunch. I also found Burrata at Alex's Farm Products so make fresh pappardelle with wild leek pesto and Burrata - it was delicious! (used two bunches for the pesto)

      2. jayt90 Apr 10, 2012 06:36 AM

        I have been able to pick 12" ramps from a moist area in my backyard, west of London. Curiously they are in full sun but doing well. I'm going to collect seed in mid summer and sow a new shady area in the fall.

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          Nyleve Apr 9, 2012 07:48 AM

          Report: ramps are definitely up. I picked a few this morning - and I'm sure to be struck dead by lightning for this - I made matzoh brei with bacon and ramps for breakfast, which was ridiculously good. Fiddleheads are not up yet, nor morels. We need rain for the morels and a bit more warmth for the fiddles.

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            acd123 Apr 9, 2012 11:22 AM

            So funny. I love it. Matzah brei with bacon and ramps. Sounds amazing. It's like my house. after the motzi a few Fridays ago, we tucked into some great low and slow pork ribs. I wouldn't worry about the lightening. It's IMPOSSIBLE that whoever/whatever is responsible for lightening doesn't like ribs and bacon.

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              Nyleve Apr 9, 2012 05:53 PM

              My son said that he doesn't think that bacon is "specifically" mentioned in the Passover food rules. I was going with that.

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            crawfish Apr 9, 2012 06:36 AM

            I checked on the weekend north of Kingston and the fiddleheads were not up.

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              fabia Apr 4, 2012 10:11 AM

              Heading north this weekend, but I'm sure they will be too small to pick. I won't get back until May 24 so will keep my fingers crossed that I'll be able to get some then.
              I never dig out the whole patch. The woods I go to are scattered with them, so I spread my digging around. I have also transplanted over the last few years into the woods closer to the cottage and someday will be able to harvest from that patch.

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                Nyleve Apr 4, 2012 07:39 AM

                I retract my earlier report that wild leeks are not up yet. I just checked my patch this morning and they are definitely up. I'd want to wait another week before picking, though, because the leaves are still small but I suspect that SW Ontario may be ahead of us. Maybe you'll start to find them in markets about now.

                1. Kagemusha Apr 3, 2012 08:52 AM

                  Too early. Ramps aren't sustainable and most are stolen( the impolite term for "foraged").

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                    jayt90 Apr 3, 2012 08:57 AM

                    If we forage too many they will be restricted, as in Quebec, with much higher prices for farmed ramps.

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                      Nyleve Apr 3, 2012 09:06 AM

                      You're quite right about that. I worry about how popular ramps have become and the fact that they are now showing up in restaurants isn't a good thing. When I pick them, I have permission from the landowner and I am very selective. But when professional pickers come in, they dig up everything and pretty much leave a vacant forest floor. Ramps are more vulnerable than wild mushrooms or fiddleheads because you're basically pulling up the whole thing - roots and all. So there's nothing left come come back next year. Very sad business.

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                        Herne Apr 3, 2012 09:46 AM

                        Do any of the seed companies sell wild leak seeds or young plants?

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                          Nyleve Apr 3, 2012 10:09 AM

                          There are some online - just google ramp seeds and you'll find them. I took a couple dozen ramps that a friend gave me and planted them. They're spreading a bit but I think I'll be an old lady before the patch is anywhere near harvestable.

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                            jayt90 Apr 8, 2012 05:58 PM

                            I talked to an Alpine grower about propagating ramps and he suggested collecting the seeds in July, rather than waiting for root division, then planting in a shady moist area similar to ginseng plots.

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                          atomeyes Apr 9, 2012 05:14 AM

                          i saw that Pizzeria Libretto had them on one of their pizzas.
                          ramps have jumped the shark.

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                        fabia Apr 3, 2012 05:21 AM

                        He used the whole plant in the soup. Last year I made pesto with the leaves of the plants I picked. The chef is going to pickle some for our next class in a few weeks.

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                          porker Apr 3, 2012 07:24 AM

                          I usually pickle the bulbs. I like the leaves in a a quick, wilting saute, but a soup sounds great. Will likely try this with wild maushrooms.

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                          LexiFirefly Apr 3, 2012 04:39 AM

                          Gabardine had them on their fish special lastnight. So it looks like they're up. Usually it takes longer for them to get into stores though.

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                            fabia Apr 3, 2012 04:31 AM

                            I was at a cooking class last night and the chef made wild leek and mushroom soup. The leeks are out here, but they were still smallish, but big enough enough to make a great soup!!!
                            I'm in Hamilton.

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                              porker Apr 3, 2012 04:43 AM

                              Just curious, did he use the whole plant, leaf & all, or just the white bulb?
                              FWIT near Montreal, nothing has poked up yet.
                              I don't know if its temperature based or amount of daily light which triggers the sprout...

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                                Nyleve Apr 3, 2012 04:48 AM

                                Temperature. Specifically, ground temperature. As soon as we get some warmth (again) and a nice soaking rain, both fiddleheads and leeks will be up.

                            2. Wahooty Apr 2, 2012 09:12 PM

                              For what it's worth, a friend near Cleveland, OH reported ramp patches about a week ago, but in her pictures they looked like they were still a little low. So the season seems to be coming a little early, but not drastically so. In my area, I'm hoping I might be able to find a few for my Easter dinner.

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                                Cat123 Apr 2, 2012 08:24 PM

                                Fiddleheads were in the basement of SLM a couple of weeks ago.

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                                  Nyleve Apr 2, 2012 05:34 PM

                                  Not up in the woods yet. I'm near Peterborough.

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                                    gttahaveit Apr 2, 2012 07:51 PM

                                    The leeks have poked through at my family place in Haliburton, but are still about 10 - 14 days from harvest

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                                      Finnegan Apr 16, 2012 08:53 AM

                                      Picked an entire shopping bag full on April 16 near Haliburton

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