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I love this site for it's food pics of simple recipes...lots of great ideas.

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  1. I'm a fan, too. :)

    1. I'm a fan when the food pics belong to the poster, not a fan of posers. There are tons of food photos there already posted without permission. Pinterest should do better from the start of site launch.

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      1. re: HillJ

        But the point of Pinterest is to share what you've found on the web with others. Pinners (generally) aren't taking credit for the photo, as clicking on it should take you to the source, usually with a recipe. It's a visual way to share bookmarks.

        1. re: irishnyc

          I understand the point, irish. My work has appeared on it several times already without my permission and I'm sure I am not the only one. Visuals are owned by people. So my p.o.v., if you own the content you're posting on Pinterest go for it; if you don't ask the owner.

          1. re: HillJ

            But what exactly is your issue? I'm not trying to be argumentative about it, but see what exactly bothers you about it. If I saw your work wherever on the web you display it and pinned it, I've now helped drive traffic to your site where, presumably, people will see and enjoy more of your work.

            I've had photos from my own website pinned, and don't mind at all. It drives traffic to my website and I've had a few sales from it. No one has ever claimed my work as their own, nor has anyone ever asked me if they could pin.

            If someone is posing as you, or claiming your work is theirs (as your original use of "posers" might imply) then you need to file a copyright claim with Pinterest. http://pinterest.com/about/copyright/

            Additionally, if you don't want your work pinned, you can add the following to your site's header to prevent pinning: <meta name=”pinterest” content=”nopin” />

            1. re: irishnyc

              irish, I appreciate your p.o.v. on this latest way to engage in social medium. I don't share your enthusiasm.

              1. re: HillJ

                Watermark your photos to avoid someone taking credit. It's a little deterrent, anyway.
                One should always get permission to use someone else's work, be it words or photos or graphs etc.
                Original work is original work..
                The way it should work is that someone should ask for permission to use your work on Pinterest , whether or not it benefits you directly with hits.
                I'm also making the assumption that Pinterest is getting more hits because works like my photos appear there.

                1. re: monavano

                  Appreciate it, monavano! I'm waiting until the dust settles over @ Pinterest. The owners have some issues.

                  1. re: HillJ

                    I signed up for Pinterest a while ago and it took a long time to get a password or something like that, so I could sign in and use it. I haven't yet.
                    But yeah, many people do not want their work lifted from their own site. Especially if it is labelled as copyrighted, where the owner has *exclusive* rights to their proprietary work and all that entails, including deciding who uses it and who benefits from it.

        2. re: HillJ

          I've been reading a bit about copyright infringement for months inre Pinterest but I'm still confused. I understand that it's wrong if I download/copy & paste someone's photos and recipes and then upload them to Pinterest and call them my own. But if used correctly (that is, pinned to my board w/ a direct link to the original content), how is that any different that having a blog post on my own blog saying, "Hey, everybody, look at this recipe I found; it's great!" with a link again to the original content?

          Does that make sense?

          1. re: Petrichor

            Petrichor, as an artist, blogger and business owner I can share my first hand experience with you about this. All of my work requires asking for permission before posting it anywhere.

            In this scenario, did the person creating their own Pinterest page take the time to ask the owner/original site for permission to repost/use the link/photos/words first? Or, is it assumed that a) being able/allowed to do a cut & paste function is all the permission needed and/or b) that you are somehow creating positive sales/PR/advertising for the people who's site/photo/recipe/information you are sharing on Pinterest so what's the big deal?

            And to answer your question as it relates to a food blog, no different. If you didn't ask permission to reuse a source and then link/post/share it, that's usually where the issues (when there are issues) lie with info that doesn't have sales or income behind it.

            As for sites in the business of making a living from their work on the Net, then you're heading into aspects of copyright infringement. In today's landscape of social media and e-commerce, businesses surf their own pages for infrigement and a lack of documented permission to reprint and share their material.

            So, if you're asking me how to deal with all this-ask first for permission and if you receive it, then post.

            1. re: HillJ

              Thanks for the response, HillJ! Maybe it's a matter of definitions. I don't consider people pinning or repinning things on Pinterest as posting content; I see it as simple linking. I asked about blogs because I've never seen anyone ask permission to link to someone else's content on a blog.

              If someone has a food blog and they tried some recipe by the Pioneer Woman and wanted to talk about it, would they have to get the Pioneer Woman's permission to say "hey, I just tried this recipe right here and it was amazing," with at least part of that sentence being a link to the PW blog? Same w/ news blogs...say I have a current events blog and I want to post my thoughts about the latest primary? Obviously I'm not going to go gather the poll results myself....why can't I just say "Hey, here's what I think about these results that I saw on CNN, blah blah blah..." with a link to CNN?

              Does inclusion of art/photos make the difference?

              I work at a newspaper, and while we certainly don't allow people to "repost" (i.e., copy and paste) our content in whole, we certainly don't mind them linking from their own blogs or quoting our reporters.

              I hope I don't sound argumentative...I don't mean to be. The whole wider discussion of Pinterest I just find very interesting. It seems to be uncharted waters.

              1. re: Petrichor

                Oh gosh no, Petrichor. I'm not the final word on this topic, lol. Come on now we can discuss this just fine. I'm not referring to general information or general discussion at all. I am only referring to material that HAS ownership. Has copyright protection and intellectual property definitions. I own my photography, my work, my words. Materials I am paid to create also has ownership. If anyone wants to use it or repost images, words, property they either have to ask first or purchase them and more times than not both.

                Imho, sites like Pinterest blur the lines for what people believe is open, free content. I am not a fan of this misunderstanding. Seems harmless to many. I make a living with my original work. I can't speak for anyone else or any media outlet or blogger. They may feel differently. But it clearly depends if you are a food blogger for fun or for profit. It clearly depends if you base your blog on original content or the work of others. It all depends and this is not a one size fits all issue.

                Unchartered waters continue....and yes, I'm paying attention as well.

                1. re: Petrichor

                  To further explain, Petrichor. When I find a quote or written materials I want to use on my business blog, I contact the author. I ask for permission to reprint their words and if granted I receive written permission to keep on file and then I receive the exact material I am being granted to use in the form inwhich the author is allowing me to reprint it. Sometimes there's a time limit on how long I can "pin" it to my site. Most times not. But I keep the permission form on file forever. Same thing happens with my work. Pinning or linking is sharing information that may or may not lead to original material. I am only interested in material that is original and requires permission to repost or use in some secondary fashion. If I'm earning a living with my material, I expect to be paid for it or at the very least be asked for permission to use it.

                  Hope that helps! And I've enjoyed discussing this with you.

          2. Personally, I don't use it at all to search other people's recipes - but I love using it to catalog the various online recipes that I use from different food sites. I use it far more to keep my online recipe "box" organized than I do for sharing purposes.

            1. Love this...
              http://pinterest.com/pin/210824826276...

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              1. re: Beach Chick

                That's gorgeous! I think I need to find a way to use that somehow ... :)

                1. re: Beach Chick

                  Someone should relieve that lady from her melon-baller misery and teach her how to peel a pineapple properly.

                  1. re: RelishPDX

                    I was thinking the same thing..
                    At first, I thought they were using the melon balls thingy for the center of the 'flower' but it's just bad peeling.

                    1. re: Beach Chick

                      i thought the "holes" were done intentially to produce the irregular outer shaping of the flower?!

                  2. re: Beach Chick

                    For every lovely successfully-executed project on Pinterest, there is a CRAFT FAIL: http://craftfail.com/2012/04/pinteres...

                    LOL

                    In fact, there is someone who has a whole blog about things she's tried from Pinterest. http://pintester.com/

                  3. I just joined this morning for the recipes. I had been reading and seeing posts on message boards to recipes found on Pinterest that I had to go and see what the fuss is all about. I like it, but I can see why people warn that it is another time eater.

                    1. i cant decide if i think pinterest is awesome for teaching several of my friends that cooking can be fun, or evil for teaching them through mostly incredibly "semi homemade" style recipes. the number of recipes that start with the words "super easy..." or end with the words "...just ___ ingredients!" frightens me.

                      Note: not that i dont believe these phrases can be applied to good meals, but since most pinterest posts containing them link to instructions like: "open boxed cake mix, stir in pumpkin puree, bake at 350"... thats my issue

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                      1. re: mattstolz

                        If it gets your friends to cook, box or no box, imho, that is a good thing.

                        1. re: Beach Chick

                          I think many people would NOT refer to that as cooking. I am sure that some sort of official definition would qualify it as cooking, but many here would not.

                          1. re: DougRisk

                            As the OP and a fan of Pinterest, lets not over analyze the whole cooking or not cooking thing.
                            It's a website with great pics of a myriad of different images.
                            If it inspires people who have never cooked to start cooking whether its opening a box of cake mix or not, that isn't the point of my thread or the website.

                            1. re: Beach Chick

                              Oh, I definitely like Pinterest.

                              But, you were glad that some people were staring to "cook". Which is fine. But, many would not consider boxed cake cooking.

                              1. re: Beach Chick

                                i guess then, more related to the point of the thread:

                                if i wanted my friends to learn to cook by starting from a beautiful picture, i would prefer they learn from a site like foodgawker, tastespotting, or seriouseats' photograzing. all of these have beautiful pictures, and the recipes and steps they present do much more to grow an appreciation for really making something yourself step by step than by blindly following a shortcut.

                                besides, whats more beautiful, a picture of handmade fresh pasta noodles hanging from a drying rack, or a picture of a jar of prego??

                                1. re: mattstolz

                                  I don't know many people who have the time to make everything from scratch but want to cook and incorporate items that are store bought as well.

                                  There is no shame in using a jar of Prego to make your lasagna...heck, I do it all the time...it's still considered 'cooking'....to your premise, do I have to make the ricotta and the mozzarella too?

                                  This thread is NOT on Home Cooking...

                                  1. re: Beach Chick

                                    no, its not on home cooking. but im just venting what i have been thinking about the site as a whole for a while, and comparing it to other sites that i view as similar. im not trying to get into recipes or something either. i guess if they were cooking shows, i just view pinterest as the rachel ray and foodgawker as the jaques pepin (or maybe the alton brown?). both have their place, just one is a little more advanced? i dont know if that makes sense.

                                    i guess if this still seems off topic then ill just say, yay pictures are fun! lol

                                    1. re: mattstolz

                                      Having been a guest on Rachael's show, I take umbrage with the slam.

                                      It's not set up to be a food site..it has a myriad of pictures..lots of great ideas presentation, recipes, design, etc.
                                      Women respond to visual way more than a man and that is why their base is over 90% women..so yes, pictures are fun!

                                      1. re: Beach Chick

                                        wasnt meant to be a slam, just not my preference. like i said, they both have their place, and, if it wasnt for rachel ray, i would have probably spent my childhood suffering through canned and frozen everything, cuz she taught my mom how to cook!

                                        and i love the craft, travel, and product parts of pinterest for sure. not to mention some of the food spots have at least given a launching point for meal ideas that started with something simple. like i originally said, i AM happy its steering a lot of my friends clear of super-value menus.

                          2. re: mattstolz

                            You're right, I really dislike "post title marketing" and that shit is rampant on blogs and Pinterest.

                            -The Perfect X
                            -Fast, Easy and Delish X
                            -The Best X you'll make, ever
                            -etc

                          3. This looks so good but wondering how would the lettuce hold up?

                            http://pinterest.com/pin/166562886188...

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                            1. re: Beach Chick

                              It's not meant to last for days, but rather, to be packed and taken on a picnic or lunch or dinner. Same day kind of thing. As long as the lettuce is away from the wet salad dressing on the bottom, it should be fine.

                            2. If anyone feels like having a little fun, simply search for "Tripe".

                              You will see lots of (failed) attempts at writing "Triple" and getting Tripe instead.

                              My favorite: Tripe Chocolate Chunk Muffins (gluten free)

                              It's true, Tripe does not have any gluten.

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                              1. re: DougRisk

                                LOL@Tripe. Now I'm going to have to do that.

                                BTW, I love tripe! I haven't had it since I lived in NY.

                                As for the cake mix recipes, I guess I haven't seen too many of those yet (still on day 2 here). I did find a good number of recipes though, several with quinoa, which I enjoy experimenting with.

                              2. Obsessed with Pinterest. I finally have a recipe box that isn't just a big bag of recipes torn out from magazines!

                                1. What Does Pinterest Look Like Without Copyrighted Content?

                                  http://www.buzzfeed.com/jwherrman/wha...

                                  Pinterest has a BIG problem with content creators right now, and this is why I'm avoiding the site like the plague until they can sort things out.

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                                  1. re: sockii

                                    Thank you for making my earlier point in part, sockii. There are already dozens of business articles about the practices on Pinterest.

                                  2. Can't wait for corn season..

                                    http://pinterest.com/pin/269301252687...

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                                    1. re: Beach Chick

                                      I discovered Pinterest in December 2010, a graphic designer it was a great place to pin images I loved to look at – and a great place to pin recipes instead of searching through bookmarks - I find it really helpful for planning menus.

                                      1. re: Athena

                                        Fab for party planning..
                                        Going to use this idea around the pool this summer..

                                        http://pinterest.com/pin/489063459235...

                                        http://pinterest.com/pin/117516489974...
                                        Use fresh green beans with turkey bacon

                                        1. re: Beach Chick

                                          i think the thing it will be most useful for (and that i am most excited to use it for) is house decorating (when i eventually get one!!). the interior design ideas on there are amazing

                                          1. re: mattstolz

                                            I wish when I built my home that Pinterest was around...so many great ideas..
                                            Lots of deals right now..best to you Matt!

                                            http://pinterest.com/pin/165929567491...

                                            1. re: Beach Chick

                                              thats awesome! i was just scrolling through and kinda fell in love with this:

                                              http://pinterest.com/pin/280138039291...

                                              (minus the heads at the top)

                                              1. re: mattstolz

                                                This is hilarious. People are pinning Pinterest pins to Chow now.

                                                1. re: RelishPDX

                                                  lol oops...

                                                  1. re: RelishPDX

                                                    Love it..

                                                    http://pinterest.com/search/?q=chowhound

                                                    1. re: Beach Chick

                                                      haha guess its only fair... if people have been pinning chowhound to pinterest, why not pinterest to chowhound??

                                                      http://pinterest.com/pin/323696910419...

                                                      1. re: mattstolz

                                                        All your pins are belong to us!

                                                        1. re: RelishPDX

                                                          (dont let HillJ see you saying things like that!)

                                                          1. re: mattstolz

                                                            How funny and here I thought the pins belongs to us was a reference to the CH guidelines that what you post here becomes the property of this site.

                                                            If not, well, dang people, not everyone jumps on every social network band wagon.

                                                2. re: Beach Chick

                                                  If you want photos for design ideas, submitted only by the pros, then head over to: http://www.houzz.com/ that's where my work resides.

                                                  Pinterest is a scrapbook with potential once they iron out the rules.

                                                  1. re: HillJ

                                                    Thanks HillJ...great website!
                                                    Built a Spanish Med home a couple of years ago but still love gazing at great design..

                                                    1. re: HillJ

                                                      oh the kitchens.....

                                                      do want.

                                                      1. re: HillJ

                                                        "Pinterest is a scrapbook with potential once they iron out the rules."

                                                        Ultimately, it is not going to matter how websites create rules to deal with copyright issues. The copyright laws are going to have to be modified to adapt to the practical issues of websites and their users. In the mid 90s, when these issues were first being considered, we were asking ourselves "How do we protect copyrighted material?" Now, the interesting question at hand is moving closer to "Should we protect copyrights and/or do we need them?"

                                                        Edit: That being said, Pinterest indeed faces some immediate problems. I do not think they could have anticipated its rapid growth.

                                                        1. re: MGZ

                                                          MGZ, I'm quickly reminded of another dilemma that faced the early Internet, ie: non profits fundraising online. There were no clear cut guideline for accepting donations (money) over the www on a global scale. Poor practices, illegal consequences, tax laws differing and non profit food banks, soup kitchens and national programs waited years for advice and protocols. Ask a npo tax lawyer about the laws regarding this sometime and watch the shrug.

                                                          The issue becomes problematic when online owners on the Net jump ahead to profit without fully investing in responsiblity. This happens often and as a professional I select who I saddle up to every day.

                                                          1. re: HillJ

                                                            I do remember some of those issues in the various journals in the late 90s, though i never worked on any (Did work on one calling for a system of regulating derivatives in '96 that it turned out no one ever paid much attention to). The tax developments help exemplify the ultimate point: In the end, the web is going to change laws more than laws are going to change the web. I can't help but think that, one day, copyright protection for recorded ones and zeros (photos, songs, movies) is going to seem like a 20th Century concept.

                                                            1. re: MGZ

                                                              Well for the sake of all of us earning a living out there, let's hope whatever the solution it's not that a free for all is just "easier" to deal with. I truly enjoy the Net and it's a valuable tool; it's the unnecessary misuses that are a real pita.

                                                              but back to the OP!
                                                              shouldn't yuck someone else's yum...as they say.

                                                        2. re: HillJ

                                                          thanks HillJ - what is it architecturally that you do? and where are you located? We are in the process of researching bath and kitchen make-overs. I have been stymied for three years wanting an inspiration for our bathroom.

                                                          1. re: smilingal

                                                            you are very welcome smilingal. My current work is in set design, arch. photography, food styling, layout for industry magazines and lifestyle photography. Jane of all trades you might say. I also own a BnB on the westcoast. how can I help you as it applies to this OP and CH?

                                                            1. re: HillJ

                                                              ah - a B+B - always a dream of mine -- and I guess this isn't really pertaining to this OP or to CH - I was drawn in by your leading me to www.houzz.com - and I was off and running!

                                                              1. re: smilingal

                                                                Can't say that I blame you. Houzz is an outstanding site for all sorts of inspiration and resources. Glad you're enjoying it.

                                                    2. re: Beach Chick

                                                      now that you have introduced me to pinterest by way of your interesting links..... I am wondering is there something I am overlooking to get the recipes - or are these just meant to be visual suggestions? I did click on the picture on the green beans and the recipe popped - but not on any of the others. I especially liked the pineapple blossom effect! thanks!

                                                      1. re: smilingal

                                                        To get to the recipe, you have to keep clicking through until you get to either the original website it's posted on or you find the link to the recipe posted somewhere with the picture.

                                                        Sometimes, people just post the picture without referencing the recipe. I've only hit on that a couple of times so far.

                                                3. I admit that I use it, but.... the food on there scares me a little. I hate to be a hater, but how much food coloring, oil and sugar do we really need?

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                                                  1. re: LN2008

                                                    As the OP said, it's great for ideas. :)

                                                    1. re: Chocolatechipkt

                                                      Don't get me wrong, I'm all for inspiration. I'm a consumer first. Pinterest and sites like it is super fun for people to collect ideas. But it's not the same situation as a hard copy magazine that you bought or found or received and tore pages out of for future or immediate use.

                                                      Misues of cut & paste tools, softtware that allows anyone to alter an original document bothers me.

                                                  2. love love love this idea..

                                                    http://stonegable.blogspot.com/2010/0...

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                                                    1. re: Beach Chick

                                                      Thank you Beach Chick, that blog is insanely beautiful and inspirational. Favorited!

                                                      1. re: 60s Girl

                                                        ; - )

                                                    2. Cheesy mushroom pull apart sourdough bread...looks so good..gonna try this for a party.

                                                      www.beantownbaker.com/2012/01/cheesey...

                                                      1. I don't generally consider myself a super visual person. I'd rather look at a list of ingredients than watch a cooking demo, or read a description of a restaurant dish than see a photo. I hate cooking blogs that fill up their entries with pictures of their ingredients or stand mixers, unless the photos are instructional (correct appearance of a batter at a certain stage for example). Thus when I joined pinterest it was really not for food content but more obviously visual interests like fashion, decor and art. What I'm finding interesting about pinterest is how appealing well-photograhed healthy, vegetable-based recipes are to me. Somehow in text format, these types of foods don't grab my attention. But seeing beautiful salads, etc, is really inspiring me these days.

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                                                        1. re: julesrules

                                                          Couldn't agree more.