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Tomato Sprouts Inside Tomatoes: Found any?

Caroline1 Mar 28, 2012 11:55 PM

Since I found out about storing fresh tomatoes stems down to preserve freshness, I've been doing it and delighted with the results! So I have this large, flat clamshell of Eurofresh Compari vine tomatoes sitting on the countertop, only about half gone. They're beginning to get "prune wrinkles" on a couple of them, so when I was whipping up a risotto for lunch today, I thought, hey! Why not some diced fresh tomatoes in it? That's Italian!

When I cut them in half, three of the four had tiny bright green "tomato sprouts" inside them! How cute, I thought! Let's see, bean sprouts, alfalfa sprouts, why not tomato sprouts? So I sliced and diced and tossed them in the risotto after the onions, pine nuts, and rice had browned, but just before the Noilly Pratt. God, they smelled good! And as the risotto progressed, it was developing a nice thick sauce. But strangely, even after nearly a half hour of stirring and adding more hot stock, the rice was still a little gritty. This has NEVER happened before! And it's not a new batch of arborio rice, so I know there's no problem with it. But it got soft enough to eat. And it WAS simply delicious...!

And about ten or fifteen minutes later, serious gastric distress set in. What's going on here? So I googled "tomato sprouts" and found a LOT of conflicting information. Some sites say they're great to eat, eat on! Other's say the can cause gastric irritation and adversely effect the nervous system. Here are a couple of websites, one pro and one con, that are interesting:
http://www.wisegeek.com/is-it-safe-to...
http://eatsblog.dallasnews.com/archiv...

It seems to be a relatively new thing. I've been eating tomatoes for a verrrrrrry loooooong time and NEVER experienced this before this past ten or twelve months. I have eaten a sprout containing tomatoe in the past, but I picked the sprouts out before putting it on a sandwich. No ill effects. But this time I used four smallish tomatoes and left the sprouts in, then cooked them. Adverse effects. I supose the gastric upset could have been from something else, but I don't really think so. And I've NEVER had arborio rice stay that gritty after cooking that long!

Strange things are happening... Tomato eaters, beware! Bottom line is I think AgriBusiness is messing with our food again, and as past experience has taught us, they often don't know what the hell they're doing. We -- the consumers -- are their guinea pigs! <squeeeeeeeaaaalll>

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  1. DuchessNukem RE: Caroline1 Mar 29, 2012 12:19 AM

    I'm an avid sprouter, Caroline, and have always understood nightshades are not to be eaten as sprouts. Still, doesn't sound like you ate too many of the little sprouts themselves -- but maybe that's enough to cause issues?

    Were the seeds just green or did they actually have root tails?

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      Caroline1 RE: DuchessNukem Mar 29, 2012 12:33 AM

      That's the amazing thing! They were something like the long "sprout shape" you see in canned bean sprouts, but on a much smaller scale, and some had tiny leaves starting out at one end. And most surprising of all to me is that some of them were a rather bright and fresh spring green! Chlorophyl without sunshine? And then I realized they were getting light through the momma tomato. And yes, I knew tomatoes are members of the nightshade family. And yes, I pick any eyes off of potatoes before cooking/eating them. These were just so damned cute and pretty, I just put the old brain in neutral and dove right in! They were all nestled inside the seed sections inside the tomatoes. There's a picture of some of them on the dallasnews link in my OP.

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        DuchessNukem RE: Caroline1 Mar 29, 2012 12:52 AM

        Probably poor temperature/environment control for the little buggers during processing/shipping/storage. A shame, those Camparis are nice. But the sprouts + grittiness of the toms suggests poor overall handling before you got them. I tend to buy grape, cherry, Campari, and plum tomatoes and HORRORS, I keep them in fridge.

        Soooooo... since you're already inadvertently, effortlessly sprouting, why not consider some intentional sprouts? :)

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          hbg1 RE: Caroline1 Mar 29, 2012 09:40 AM

          I also found sprouts inside tomatoes a couple months ago, just like you described, and I think they may even have been the same brand. I'd left them on the counter as instructed on the clamshell package, rather than storing them in the fridge as I usually would. I'd never seen anything like it before, and found similar conflicting information on the internet when I tried to look it up. I decided not to eat the sprouts or the tomatoes in the end. It did sound from my research like the sprouting might have been caused by leaving the tomatoes out -- I'd probably had them for a month, but they still looked good on the outside. Apparently it was a good sprouting environment, given enough time.

          I guess now I know for sure not to eat them, but I still wonder if the tomatoes themselves would be ok.

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            Caroline1 RE: hbg1 Mar 29, 2012 10:25 AM

            From the concensus of available opinions on the web yesterday, it's okay to eat the tomatoes if you remove the sprouts. A friend was here this morning who had never heard of suc a thing, so I cut one of the tomatoes open and showed her the sprouts. She's an excellent gardner -- I have TWO brown thumbs! -- so she took it home with her in a zip lock bag to see if they will grow. Time will tell!

            I've bbeen keeping all vine tomatoes (the only kind I will buy) on the counter, stems down, for way over a year now, but the Compari tomatoes (great "heirloom flavor) are the only tomatoes I've had this happen with to date. Some "expert" opinions are that it's caused by over-fertilization and growth hormone (I have no idea if that's true) while other "authorities" say the problem is long term storage. Who knows? But the tomatoes are purportedly safe to eat if you remove the sprouts.

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              hbg1 RE: Caroline1 Mar 29, 2012 10:47 AM

              Thanks for the info. I am pretty sure that Compari was the brand that I had, so maybe it's more likely to happen with those. I'd also never seen sprouts in tomatoes before, but I usually keep them in the refrigerator (although I do leave them on the counter to get fully red first, if they weren't already).

              Maybe I'll try the stem-down-on-the-counter method, since, from what you say, it seems like I'm not likely to get sprouts from doing this in general.

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          LMAshton RE: DuchessNukem Jun 27, 2014 07:23 PM

          When mine sprout, they most definitely get tails, sometimes as long as a centimetre.

        3. sunshine842 RE: Caroline1 Mar 29, 2012 01:00 AM

          I've had quite a few "pregnant" tomatoes over the years -- I find the sprouts horribly acrid and unpleasant, though, so I don't eat them...sounds like my instinct was correct. Sounds like the little bit you got was enough to upset your system.

          I have, however, been known to plant them, with mixed success.

          As far as the grittiness of your risotto -- I know that adding tomatoes to beans can, because of the acid in the tomatoes, delay or even prevent the beans ever becoming soft -- does anyone know if this extends to rice, as well?

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            Karl S RE: sunshine842 Mar 29, 2012 10:50 AM

            Well, parcooking in wine is SOP for risotto, so I don't think that is as much of a problem for risotto rices or any polished grain without a hull or skin.

          2. Karl S RE: Caroline1 Mar 29, 2012 10:48 AM

            You've now explained something to me. I've relied on standard spoilage markers to determine whether a soft Campari was still good to eat, but have experienced mild negative results at times. I generally do slice them open, but I've not investigated the sprouting.

            This is a good warning that it's good practice to be sure to slice Campari's and similar tomatoes open and review for sprouting before eating.

            1. sunshine842 RE: Caroline1 Mar 29, 2012 11:13 AM

              I also know from experience that while I've never felt unwell after eating tomatoes from which I'd removed all the sprouts -- it also usually means that the tomato is old enough to be a little funky -- grainy and the flavor has started to dissipate.

              And never, ever store tomatoes in the fridge -- the cold destroys the flavor compounds -- see this from the Florida Tomato Committee http://www.floridatomatoes.org/Storag... and Harold McGee says so, too: http://www.thekitchn.com/food-science...

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                hbg1 RE: sunshine842 Mar 29, 2012 11:22 AM

                Well, that was the problem -- I finally decided to try storing the tomatoes on the counter, rather than the fridge as we've always done, and when I did, I got sprouts.

                I guess I should just eat more tomatoes so they don't stay there so long :-)

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                  DuchessNukem RE: sunshine842 Mar 29, 2012 07:06 PM

                  Despite all that expert advice I do keep them in fridge, sunshine (that's why I said HORRORS above, lol). When Harold McGee stops by regularly to unfuzz them I'll start keeping on the counter.
                  Everyone to their own preferences. :)

                  (Please, no one tell the Tomato Committee.)

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                    sunshine842 RE: DuchessNukem Mar 29, 2012 11:52 PM

                    My mom still steadfastly refuses to take them out of the fridge, too.

                    I did a side-by-side with some smallish tomatoes -- we found that there's no comparison.

                    Your money, your tomatoes.

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                  Spice_zing RE: Caroline1 Mar 29, 2012 07:31 PM

                  Saw this for the first time recently. Kinda freaked me out at first cause I thought they were worms. Couldn't figure out how they got inside since no exterior holes. They were old tomatoes so I just pitched them. Couldn’t get past the “wormy” appearance.

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                    Sooeygun RE: Spice_zing Mar 30, 2012 05:57 AM

                    Yes! When the sprouts are still whitish, they look like little worms. Even though I know they aren't, every time I see them, they just freak me out. Not enough to throw them out though. I remove the pulp and sprouts and either eat them, or if the tomato seems beyond help, put it in the stock bag in the freezer.

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                    souvenir RE: Caroline1 Mar 29, 2012 07:44 PM

                    Caroline1- what is the "packed on" date on the clamshell? -sou

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                      Caroline1 RE: souvenir Mar 29, 2012 07:51 PM

                      The packing date is clearly some sort of secret code: "12/6522" Obviously the "12" may indicate last December, but no guarantee. Obfuscation!

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                        souvenir RE: Caroline1 Mar 29, 2012 08:29 PM

                        Interesting. The format I am used to seeing, and from my current box:
                        14 MAR 2012
                        These aren't Eurofresh, but Costco stores here in Northern California do source from them, and I thought Eurofresh boxes used the same format. Costco here offers Houweling (sometimes from Oxnard, sometimes from Vancouver B.C.), and Eurofresh (from Arizona). Maybe it's a California labeling requirement to have a consumer legible pack date?

                        Anyway, the reason why I asked is because I was trying to figure out how long the tomatoes had been in their clamshells. In my experience, if humidity is high, then the method of green stems stored upside down is not good. I open the clamshell in the store to examine all the tomatoes before selecting one. Otherwise I've had the experience that the label obscures bruised or damaged tomatoes.

                        When I get home, I open the clamshell box right away because in my experience, the clamshell in my south-facing sunny kitchen makes too humid an environment and accelerates spoilage.

                        We eat 1-2 lbs a week so that is how long I am trying to keep them in ripe, but not too ripe condition. I occasionally end up with a prunish tomato, but don't remember a Campari that had sprouts. Other larger tomatoes on the vine, I have had that creepy sprout experience and usually handle by cutting the center area out and oven roasting the rest of the flesh of the tomato.

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                          sunshine842 RE: Caroline1 Mar 29, 2012 11:52 PM

                          if you phone them or send them an email, they'll tell you how to read their dates.

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                            Caroline1 RE: sunshine842 Mar 30, 2012 08:35 AM

                            I'm not one who pays much attention to any "sell by" or "best by" or "packed on" dates. I rely exclusively on the eye-nose-mouth testing method. It's far more reliable! '-)

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                              sunshine842 RE: Caroline1 Mar 30, 2012 10:09 AM

                              Me, too -- just noting that they'll tell you how to read the codes if you ask.

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                                Caroline1 RE: sunshine842 Mar 31, 2012 12:53 AM

                                Thanks! :-)

                      2. Samalicious RE: Caroline1 Mar 30, 2012 03:18 AM

                        Never run into this before-it sounds to me like they're just behaving like fruits/vegetables that have been stored too long at room temp. Stuff either starts to rot or starts to grow.

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                          aprilrena RE: Caroline1 Jun 27, 2014 11:24 AM

                          So I found this on my kitchen counter this morning... Crazy! Even my mother in law who has raised gardens for many years has NEVER seen the seeds sprouting from the tomato.

                           
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                            LMAshton RE: aprilrena Jun 27, 2014 07:25 PM

                            Oh wow. That's totally new to me. As they say, a picture's worth a thousand words...

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                              aprilrena RE: LMAshton Jun 27, 2014 07:39 PM

                              I thought so too :)

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                              DuchessNukem RE: aprilrena Jun 29, 2014 06:26 AM

                              Holy crap. That's one determined tomato. I'd plant a few of those babies just in honor of its will to reproduce. :)

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                                aprilrena RE: DuchessNukem Jun 29, 2014 10:41 AM

                                LoL! Yep. We're curious to see this baby grow. :)

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                                  sunshine842 RE: DuchessNukem Jun 29, 2014 02:05 PM

                                  wouldn't that be pretty much the way that new tomatoes would grow if tomatoes were left to their own devices?

                                  I'm thinking tomatoes were "born" that way for a long, long time before Mr. Burpee started picking out the seeds and putting them into packets.....

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                                    DuchessNukem RE: sunshine842 Jun 29, 2014 02:29 PM

                                    Well of course. It's just an amusing rarity for it to happen on our kitchen counters rather than under a bush.

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                                      aprilrena RE: DuchessNukem Jun 30, 2014 08:20 AM

                                      Exactly :)

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                                      JTPhilly RE: sunshine842 Jul 2, 2014 06:54 PM

                                      well except that normally the seeds go through a fermentation process that destroys the gel sac and growth inhibitors in it. This happens either from the tomato rotting on the ground or induced by seed savers. This tomato seems to be skipping a step in the typical process - which could mean either its breeding has reduced/eliminated those growth inhibitors or the tomato is rotting and fermenting inside while maintaining a fresh appearance outside.

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                                    Caroline1 RE: aprilrena Jul 2, 2014 05:45 PM

                                    And now I'm very curious about what kind of tomato that is? It looks like it could be a Compari, which is the kind of tomato that sprouted on me, and that leaves me curious whether spontaneous sprouting is more common in Compari tomatoes than other cultivars. That photo is spectacular as well as bizarre! One strange pregnant tomato! Thanks for the picture.

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                                      aprilrena RE: Caroline1 Jul 2, 2014 11:27 PM

                                      Thank you Caroline :) I believe it was a Compari. Vine Ripe. :)

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                                        Karl S RE: aprilrena Jul 3, 2014 04:54 AM

                                        The tomato type name is Campari.

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                                          aprilrena RE: Karl S Jul 3, 2014 08:03 AM

                                          Thank you for the correction! :)

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                                            Caroline1 RE: Karl S Jul 5, 2014 03:18 AM

                                            And the Compari cultivar is the ONLY tomato I've ever seen do that! They are a late-20th century hybrid, and I suspect that characteristic is related to the hybridization process, as in recessive genes meeting that would never have met otherwise...?

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                                      bitchincook RE: Caroline1 Jul 5, 2014 04:32 PM

                                      I found sprouts in organic hydroponic tomatoes that I bought at Safeway and that most likely came from Eurofresh. This happened twice. Now I buy ordinary Romas. They are far cheaper, will continue to ripen at room temperature, and are less watery and more meaty.

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