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Which "outer" arrondisement is best for good restos?

ScottnZelda Mar 15, 2012 01:28 PM

We've been held captive by the 6eme for some years, meaning we choose a hotel there. Since I see more and more restos recommended in the outer arrondisements, I'm thinking about breaking loose from the 6eme this May, and find a new home with great neighborhood restos.

Does anyone have a recco for where to go----for what restos------and which hotel (3 star perhaps)?

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  1. Parigi RE: ScottnZelda Mar 15, 2012 01:35 PM




    1. mangeur RE: ScottnZelda Mar 15, 2012 01:48 PM

      You don't have to move if you are happy with your present hotel. We stay on the northern border of the 7th, half a block from the 6th but we dine in the 11th, 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th, 17th, 18th, 19th and 20th. Most of the good/new restaurants are very near a metro or on a bus line, locations chosen for diners' convenience and chefs' economics.

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      1. re: mangeur
        plafield RE: mangeur Mar 15, 2012 02:06 PM

        Try the 14th or 15th and get an apartment. Much less expensive than a hotel and there are great restos out there (La Regalade, Le Grand Pan, Afaria, Jadis and many more) and you will have a kitchen and make use of the wonderful products from the markets.

        The 11th also has a burgeoning restaurant scene.

      2. Delucacheesemonger RE: ScottnZelda Mar 16, 2012 12:26 PM

        Agree with the above posters, my flat is in the middle of the 11th and l have restaurants galore, as well as easy transportation to anywhere else.

        1. PBSF RE: ScottnZelda Mar 16, 2012 12:53 PM

          There maybe good restaurants in most of the outer arrondisements but as a visitor, there are many other advantages of staying near the center. Years ago, I stayed at a friend's apartment in the 20th just beyond Lachaise. The area was pleasant. But because I enjoy the pace and people watching of centro, taking the metro everyday, sometimes twice, can be wearing. When I stayed in the Marais, Latin Quarter, around l'Odeon or the 2nd, it was a pleasure just being able to walk out the door for an interesting stroll and not having to deal with the metro. Now we are at the 14e just south of Cimetiere du Montparnesse. It is a nice neighborhood with good cafes, food markets and shops (no great immediate restaurants) and close enough to walk down to St Germaine. Still, it is a very big change from when we were in the bustling 3e.

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            Parigi RE: PBSF Mar 16, 2012 01:02 PM

            The 20th is truly outer.
            I consider arrondissements 1 to 11, and pockets of the 14th (near Montparnasse, Vavin) and the 18th (Abbesses) not outer at all.

            1. re: Parigi
              PBSF RE: Parigi Mar 16, 2012 08:08 PM

              You are right that where we are in the 14th, near Denfert-Rochereau, is not outer. it is just not as 'inner' as when were in the 3rd.

          2. sistereurope RE: ScottnZelda Mar 16, 2012 08:19 PM

            I go to Paris at least once a year,and have migrated from the inner to the outer arr gradually...right now my favorite areas are the 10th and 11th. For a visitor, close enough to a quick metro ride as well as great restaurants and a more "local" vibe. For a first time visitor I would probably recommend someplace closer to the center, but for anyone who has been to Paris several times. getting out from the "tourist ghetto" can be exhilarating.

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              ScottnZelda RE: sistereurope Apr 6, 2012 08:00 AM

              Okay! We're saying goodbye to the 6th, and have booked hotel in at Bastille. This will be an adventure for us. Thanks to you all! Now, does anyone have restaurant or shopping reccos in Marais/Bastille?

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                Delucacheesemonger RE: ScottnZelda Apr 6, 2012 02:13 PM

                Bastille market, Thurs and Sunday
                Marche Aligre Everyday but Monday
                Jelly lady outside supermarket at Voltaire metro Sunday AM
                Landemaine pain Voltaire, right across street from jelly lady
                for one of my fav loaves in Paris. Also closed Monday
                Rino restaurant 4 block walk away
                Crus and Descouvertes on Rue Paul Bert for my fav wine shop in Paris
                mostly organic, and always interesting stuff.

                1. re: Delucacheesemonger
                  ScottnZelda RE: Delucacheesemonger Apr 6, 2012 03:19 PM

                  Thank you so much! We are looking forward to "breaking out" and trying a different section of Paris. What's the story with the "jelly lady?"

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                    Parigi RE: ScottnZelda Apr 6, 2012 03:34 PM

                    I was just wondering but didn't dare ask. Sounds dirty.

                  2. re: Delucacheesemonger
                    parisjo RE: Delucacheesemonger Apr 6, 2012 04:30 PM

                    We are staying in an apartment on rue Petion very close to Voltaire metro station in May with our grandson. I'd like more info on this Jelly Lady also. Sounds like we will have lots of choice for great food nearby.


                    1. re: parisjo
                      Parigi RE: parisjo Apr 6, 2012 11:28 PM

                      There's a Chinese restaurant on rue Pétion with great dumpling.

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                        sistereurope RE: parisjo Apr 7, 2012 07:01 AM

                        And I'll be right around the corner on Ave Parmentier. I want to know more about Jelly Lady too...

                      2. re: Delucacheesemonger
                        Delucacheesemonger RE: Delucacheesemonger May 21, 2012 12:09 PM

                        'Jelly Lady' is a woman in front of supermarket on Rue Ledru-Rollin and Rue Roquette who sells her homemade jams on Sunday AM. They are quite good, and some are fabulous.

                      3. re: ScottnZelda
                        PattyC RE: ScottnZelda Apr 6, 2012 03:04 PM

                        Septime is nearby.

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                          dcbbq RE: ScottnZelda Apr 6, 2012 04:20 PM

                          Le Chemise is a bit north and well worth the trip. I enjoyed the dome du marais, just off the Place, a coupl eof years ago, and once had a very nice, very unhurried meal in Bofinger (in February). The Bastille market is to die for, as are the food shops along St Antoine. Next time I'm getting an apartment

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                            ScottnZelda RE: dcbbq Apr 6, 2012 05:41 PM

                            We'll be there during a big "Brocante Mache" in mid May. Any seasonal ideas?

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                              Parigi RE: ScottnZelda Apr 6, 2012 11:30 PM

                              The humongous rue de Bretagne street fair in May?
                              That marché is ace. Many fashion houses in the 'hood dump their off-season stuff proverbially on the street. And brocanteurs from all over France converge there. Not to be missed. I got all my vintage herringbone weave napkins from a vendor who had driven up from Nîmes !
                              I don't see the Fitzgeralds doing the brocantes though…

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                                ScottnZelda RE: Parigi Apr 7, 2012 05:23 AM

                                I'm not sure about rue de Bretagne, but it starts at Bastille, is big, and runs for about a week. It could be great.

                                We love brocantes. We rely on them to get the taxidermy we need to keep up with that darn Hemingway and his hunting trophies. :-}

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                                  Parigi RE: ScottnZelda Apr 7, 2012 05:33 AM

                                  That's a different brocante.
                                  Taxidermy. You should go to Deyroole. And Scott should get Zelda the "Plumes" scarf reissued by Hermès to benefit Deyrolle destroyed by a fire a few years ago.

                                  1. re: Parigi
                                    ScottnZelda RE: Parigi Apr 7, 2012 12:33 PM

                                    Please tell me about your brocante on rue de Bretagne... do you know the dates in May? We're there from the 9th- 17th.

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