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Ffromsaopaulo Mar 13, 2012 01:57 PM

My companion and I will be in New York for 11 days in a few weeks. A friend will join us for the last 7 days. Generally we have breakfast with coffee and some pastry, theh either a good lunch and drinks at night with bar food or street food or vice-versa with a good supper.
We will arrive early in the morning at LES and we'll probably not getting to the hotel room until 4 pm. We are considering having breakfast at Clinton Street Baking Company because we love the pancakes with maple butter. Lunch at Momofuku Ssam bar for the duck dishes. At night, considering either PDT or Death%Company and eating there, we love them.
Day 2: Amy's Bread or SSS for coffee and cupcake or carrot cake, lunch at John Dory Oyster Bar (we'll be nearby and we've never been there), at night either PDT or D&Company (the one we didn't go the previous night).
Day 3: it will be saturday, not sure about brunch as dinner will be at Le Bernardin
Day 4: brunch at the Spotted Pig, at night Mayahuel or Raines Law Room
Day 5: bagel and lox at Russ and Daughters, our friend arrives mid afternoon and he wants to go to the Breslin (all of us love the lamb burger and the seafood sausage).
Day 6: maybe Eataly in the morning or a lobster roll at Luke's and dinner at EMP.
Day 7: nothing planned
Day 8: dinner at Empellon Cocina, maybe a pre-cocktail at Amor y Amargo (my companion loves negronis)
Day 9: my friend also loves Momofuku Ssam, so we'll be back which is no problem at all, probably going at night, after drink at Booker and Dax maybe.
Day 10: nothing planned
Day 11: my friend loves the seafood platter at Balthazar, still haven't made the reservation.

I would like to try the Dutch, Saxon and Parole and maybe Junoon. In previous visits we've been to Jean-Georges, Locanda Verde, Babbo, Scarpetta, Minetta Tavern, Kin Shop, so wouldn't want to come back, although all pf them were very good.
I would like ti have your comments and suggestions. Thanks in advance!

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    crsin Mar 13, 2012 02:37 PM

    Seems a bit repetitive to me. Momofuki Ssam x2, three April Bloomfield restaurants. But if you really love these spots and don't mind going back repeatedly (or there's nothing else you would rather try), go for it.

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    1. re: crsin
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      Ffromsaopaulo Mar 13, 2012 04:52 PM

      I agree with you, but my companion loves them a lot. I'd rather try different ones, but I have to make some concessions as well. Although thinking about Ssam, as we'll probably go different times, I'll manage eating different things: duck dishes at noon and sweetbreads and uni at night., also could try different hams.

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      kathryn Mar 13, 2012 03:06 PM

      > Generally we have breakfast with coffee and some pastry, theh either a good lunch and drinks at night with bar food or street food or vice-versa with a good supper.

      For your morning coffee/pastry, I'd look into Mille-Feuille and Dominique Ansel. Both are fairly new French patisseries.

      I see you have PDT, Death & Company, Mayahuel, Raines Law Room, Amor y Amargo, and Booker & Dax on your list, all great places to go for a cocktail.

      You might also want to look into Prima, The Wayland, and The Beagle, all fairly new, as well as the bar program at Vandaag.

      > We are considering having breakfast at Clinton Street Baking Company because we love the pancakes with maple butter. Lunch at Momofuku Ssam bar for the duck dishes. At night, considering either PDT or Death%Company and eating there, we love them.

      This sounds like a great day to me.

      > Day 2: Amy's Bread or SSS for coffee and cupcake or carrot cake, lunch at John Dory Oyster Bar (we'll be nearby and we've never been there), at night either PDT or D&Company (the one we didn't go the previous night).

      Stumptown in the Ace Hotel has great coffee and pastries as well (April Bloomfield of the Breslin bakes them for the shop).

      > Day 3: it will be saturday, not sure about brunch as dinner will be at Le Bernardin

      Perhaps Prune, Shopsin's, The Dutch? There will definitely be a wait at Prune & Shopsin's. The Dutch takes brunch reservations.

      > Day 4: brunch at the Spotted Pig, at night Mayahuel or Raines Law Room

      Raines Law Room doesn't really serve any food except for popcorn, you should probably make a dinner reservation elsewhere. Perhaps this would be a good night to try Junoon, as it is a short walk from there. Junoon has intriguing cocktails as well -- some with Indian spices.

      > Day 5: bagel and lox at Russ and Daughters, our friend arrives mid afternoon and he wants to go to the Breslin (all of us love the lamb burger and the seafood sausage).
      > Day 6: maybe Eataly in the morning or a lobster roll at Luke's and dinner at EMP.

      Since you like cupcakes, stop into Butter Lane if you're going to be by Luke's anyway.

      > Day 7: nothing planned

      If you don't make it to Luke's, you could have a lobster roll at Pearl Oyster Bar for lunch on this day. Or pick any of the restaurants that usually have long lines for dinner but not lunch, such as Tertulia, Ippudo, Lupa, ABC Kitchen, Frankie’s 570....

      Or pizza at Motorino for lunch if you don't do Eataly.

      Since you seem to enjoy bold, hearty flavors and Asian inspired cooking, maybe dinner at Fatty Cue West Village. Good cocktail program there as well.

      > Day 8: dinner at Empellon Cocina, maybe a pre-cocktail at Amor y Amargo (my companion loves negronis)

      Don't miss the cocktail list at Empellon Cocina. Creative use of Mexican ingredients, all tequila/mezcal drinks.

      > Day 9: my friend also loves Momofuku Ssam, so we'll be back which is no problem at all, probably going at night, after drink at Booker and Dax maybe.

      > Day 10: nothing planned

      If you like meat-heavy cooking, maybe Prune, the Duckavore dinner at Wong, the Maialino al forno at Maialino, the suckling pig at Txikito, or the charcuterie at Bar Boulud, Japanese BBQ at Takashi (in addition to Fatty Cue, which I recommended above)? I've also heard good things about Fat Radish and Whitehall, since you seem to enjoy British/gastropub a lot.

      > Day 11: my friend loves the seafood platter at Balthazar, still haven't made the reservation.

      For cocktails near Balthazar, try 1534, Mother's Ruin, The Randolph, and, of course, Pegu Club.

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      Pearl Oyster Bar
      18 Cornelia St, New York, NY 10014

      Momofuku Ssam Bar
      207 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

      Shopsin's General Store
      120 Essex St, New York, NY 10002

      Balthazar
      80 Spring St, New York, NY 10012

      Please Don't Tell
      113 St Marks Pl, New York, NY 10009

      Prune
      54 E 1st St, New York, NY 10003

      Pegu Club
      77 W Houston St, New York, NY 10012

      Bar Boulud
      1900 Broadway, New York, NY 10023

      Ippudo
      65 4th Ave, New York, NY 10003

      The Randolph at Broome
      349 Broome St, New York, NY 10013

      Death & Co.
      433 E 6th St, New York, NY 10009

      Txikito
      240 9th Ave, New York, NY 10001

      Butter Lane
      123 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

      Raines Law Room
      48 W 17th St, New York, NY 10011

      Mayahuel
      304 E 6th St, New York, NY 10003

      Clinton Street Baking Co.
      4 Clinton St, New York, NY 10002

      Stumptown
      18 W 29th Street, New York, NY 10001

      Luke's Lobster
      93 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

      Maialino
      2 Lexington Avenue, New York, NY 10010

      Motorino
      349 E 12th St, New York, NY 10003

      ABC Kitchen
      35 E 18th St, New York, NY 10003

      Takashi
      456 Hudson St, New York, NY 10011

      Vandaag
      103 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

      Eataly
      200 5th Ave, New York, NY 10010

      The Dutch
      131 Sullivan St, New York, NY 10012

      Fat Radish
      17 Orchard St, New York, NY 10002

      1534
      20 Prince St, New York, NY 10012

      Junoon
      27 W 24th St, New York, NY 10010

      Prima
      58 E 1st St, New York, NY 10003

      Amor y Amargo
      443 E 6th St, New York, NY 10009

      Tertulia
      359 6th Ave, New York, NY 10011

      The Beagle
      162 Avenue A, New York, NY 10009

      Mille-feuille
      552 LaGuardia Pl, New York, NY 10012

      Frankies 570 Spuntino
      570 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

      Empellon Cocina
      105 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

      Fatty 'Cue
      50 Carmine St, New York, NY 10014

      The Wayland
      700 E 9th St, New York, NY 10009

      Wong
      7 Cornelia St, New York, NY 10014

      Whitehall
      19 Greenwich Ave, New York, NY 10014

      Mother's Ruin
      18 Spring St, New York, NY 10012

      Dominique Ansel Bakery
      189 Spring St, New York, NY 10012

      Booker & Dax
      207 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

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      1. re: kathryn
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        Ffromsaopaulo Mar 13, 2012 05:17 PM

        Thanks, kathryn.
        Mille-Feuille , Butter Lane and Dominique Ansel seem awesome.
        Junoon and Raines Law Room can be a good match.
        Fatty Cue and Takashi are interesting possibilities and also Prune for dinner (we have been to brunch , but not at night).
        Reading some of your cocktails posts made me wonder whether I should try Lani Kai and Idle Hands.
        Oh, your post about Empellon Cocina made me choose this restaurant!
        Thanks again.

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          kathryn Mar 13, 2012 05:23 PM

          Lani Kai would be a good pre or post Balthazar stop.

          Love Idlehands but it's not really a cocktail bar... Depends if you have a great whiskey bar at home or not.

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          Idle Hands
          25 Avenue B, New York, NY 10009

          Lani Kai
          525 Broome St, New York, NY 10012

          1. re: kathryn
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            Ffromsaopaulo Mar 13, 2012 05:31 PM

            I like bourbon and whiskey and it's located near our hotel, so would be a good stop before going back.
            Thanks a lot!

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              Pan Mar 13, 2012 10:59 PM

              I have yet to go there. How does it compare in selection and price with other bars in the area, like the Whiskey Ward and the bar on the corner of 7th and 1st that has some good whiskeys?

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                kathryn Mar 14, 2012 07:21 AM

                Good selection--more than what's listed online--but prices are kinda fuzzy to me :)

        2. sgordon Mar 14, 2012 08:15 AM

          For one of your open nights I'd consider WD-50 - you're obviously cocktails fans, and they have one of the best cocktail programs of any restaurant in the city. Also the food, judging from what you've liked before and where you're going, would be right up your alley.

          Public is another place to consider - either for dinner on one of your open nights, or for brunch on Saturday. Many (self included) consider it one of the best, and certainly most creative brunches in town. No rezzies for brunch but it's usually not too hard to get a table. I would absolutely go there for dinner before Saxon & Parole, Chef Farmerie's newer place. Public is where he really stretches creatively. S&P was a bit of a let-down for me, personally. Nothing bad, mind you, but nothing terrifically exciting either, and some of it a bit overpriced IMHO - especially odd given that both Public and Double Crown (his prior resto in the S&P space) are/were very reasonably priced for what they were serving.

          Vandaag, mentioned above by someone else, is also a good option, especially for cocktails. The food has been quite good of late, as well - I was initially worried when the original chef left, but the new guy has been doing all right so far.

          Acme could be worth a shot on a weeknight - likely the reserved tables are mostly booked already, but there are a few bar tables and as long as it's not Thursday - Sunday you could probably score one. Never know, though, there night be a rezzie table available, too. Doesn't hurt to call / email them.

          I see no problem with hitting Momofuku Ssam twice, especially for different meals.

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          WD-50
          50 Clinton Street, New York, NY 10002

          Momofuku Ssam Bar
          207 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

          Public
          210 Elizabeth Street, New York, NY 10012

          Acme
          9 Great Jones St, New York, NY 10012

          Vandaag
          103 2nd Ave, New York, NY 10003

          Saxon + Parole
          316 Bowery, New York, NY 10012

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            kathryn Mar 14, 2012 08:38 AM

            Good to know that Vandaag is still going all right -- what have you had there?

            Given that Acme just got 2 stars in the New York Times, I'm thinking the OP won't be able to get in at all, except at the bar.

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              Ffromsaopaulo Mar 14, 2012 12:32 PM

              WD-50 is a restaurant I've always wanted to go and ended up not going, I think we will like it.
              Acme can be an option as well, I can try wednesday night which we have no plans yet.
              Forgot to mention that we went to Vandaag last year and we enjoyed the drinks and the food (I had the burger, don't remember what others had).
              Now I have more options than days in NY, guess I'll tell my boss he has to let me stay more in the city...
              After reading your birthday post about EMP (happy birthday, by the way), I'm considering going for the tasting menu.
              Thanks for your suggestions!

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                Ffromsaopaulo Apr 1, 2012 09:19 AM

                Updating.
                Day 7: Acme
                Day 9: Bar at The Modern
                Day 10: The NoMad
                I'll report back returning home, but I'll probably add some photos to my tumblr during my stay: http://foodemotion.tumblr.com/

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                  kathryn Apr 1, 2012 09:32 AM

                  Sounds amazing! Can't wait to see the photos!

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                    Ffromsaopaulo Apr 9, 2012 07:46 AM

                    Pictures from New York are already available at my tumblr.

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                G8ornurse Apr 1, 2012 09:51 AM

                If you can swing it, Per Se for lunch (not dinner). This is very pricey, but for a foodie it is such an amazing 4-hour experience!
                High Tea in the afternoon at the Peninsula Hotel is fantastic!
                The basement of The Plaza hotel has a really great, reasonably priced Food Hall--created by Todd English. Fun atmosphere and just about any type of cuisine you can imagine.
                A picnic from Gristedes is Central Park is also great this time of year.
                La Grenouille on the East Side has been serving traditional French fine dining for 50-years and I'm not sure anything has changed in those 50 years, but it was a great meal. Definitely go for the souffle and coffee!

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                  Ffromsaopaulo Apr 1, 2012 01:25 PM

                  Per Se is on my wish list. Unfortunately, I couldn't get a reservation for this trip.
                  The food at La Grenouille seems delicious.
                  I'll try to check the Food Hall at the Plaza.
                  Thanks for writing.

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                    G8ornurse Apr 2, 2012 07:06 AM

                    You can sometimes get lucky if you put yourself on the waiting list for Per Se since people make reservations months in advance. Lunch is a great time to go too since you actually get a view of Central Park from the restaurant. I also think it is a less popular time...
                    We were fortunate to have the Amex concierge get us a reservation last time because of numerous cancellations.

                    Have fun! NYC is such a great place to eat :)

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                  Riverman500 Apr 1, 2012 04:16 PM

                  I might be in the minority but I'm not a fan Empellon Cocina. The flavors don't seem balanced to me (though I liked the mezcal trout). The room is even louder than and not as attractive as Empellon Taqueria. The service is great though even if the kitchen is sometimes slow.

                  I plan to try it again in a few months since they're still tweaking the menu and I do have faith in Alex Stupak. But as it stands I think Empellon Taqueria and Yerba Buena Perry are better restaurants for upscale Mexican food.

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                    Ffromsaopaulo Apr 1, 2012 05:04 PM

                    I was in doubt between Cocina or Taqueria, but the sweetbreads and longaniza dish of the former made me decide. Let's hope it will be good.

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                      Riverman500 Apr 1, 2012 05:09 PM

                      I haven't tried the sweetbreads or longaniza at Cocina. I hope you enjoy them.

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                        Ffromsaopaulo Apr 17, 2012 04:03 PM

                        Just got back home. I'll try to report as soon as possible, but the highlights were Momofuku (lunch and dinner), EMP (first time there and looking forward to returning), PDT and Amor y Amargo.

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