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Mar 12, 2012 03:57 PM

Your opinion.....

After hearing from a long time Chef,.....he said many of the shrimp that restaurants serve, particularly Asian
are from unclean waters from southeast Asia.....known in the trade as "sewer shrimp"...but because of their low cost, and the tight margins restaurants are working with today, it could become a hazard to the public, question, it proper to ask management WHERE the shrimp they serve, comes from ?

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  1. Your chef friend is an idiot......most Asian restaurants get their fish and sea food sourced from the same suppliers as other restaurants in the same it Italian, French, Greek, Mexican...or whatever.. With that said, there is a large amount of sea foods imported from Southeast Asia, but to say who purchases it is purely speculation.

    As a patron you can always ask any questions you have out of curiosity or concern..

    1. Not uncommon these days for patrons to ask where many / any of the ingredients in a meal came from. Not that the restaurant always knows - or has been told the truth themselves. On Friday I heard a patron ask if there were 'additives' in the burgers. The waiter was quite honest and said they didn't think there were, but were trying to get final confirmation from their supplier.

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      1. re: KaimukiMan

        Let's look at one of my Hawai`i favorites, Mama's Fish House. They take pains to go into detail on where the fish came from - such as "line caught by O'lo Masagua, on the vessel Miss Kapalanai, off of Maui." Now, does that mean that that fish will be better than the earlier one, "deep line caught by Osaka Miamisu from the Contra Costa?" I do not know, but that gets close to knowing the fish's parents, and where he/she went to grad school.



        1. re: Bill Hunt

          If only Maui and I got along better.... oh well, can't have everything. I have to admit, I don't know of any restaurant on Oahu that does that.

          1. re: KaimukiMan


            I agree with you. I have only encountered such in San Francisco, a few areas near-by, and at Mama's. Some have claimed that it is all hype, but I have had the staff at Mama's switch out my menu, as a new "catch" came in, and they wanted to update things. Nice touch, whether hype, or actual info.

            Now, one restauranteur in Phoenix is almost so anal. He meets each day's seafood at the airport, and while he might not know who caught what, knows exactly where each item came from. Again, it shows in his menus.


          2. re: Bill Hunt

            Bill, I agree it is nice to know the source, and the freshness. In Playa del Carmen, La Tarraya and La Mission have their own fisherman, and one can stop by mid-day and select a fish for dinner later - boquinette, redfish, huachinango, grouper, plus tuna and marlin when they run in May. Same for Cueva del Pescador in Akumal, extraordinary. And at Capricorn on Ambergris Caye in Belize, when the boat comes in with the day's stone crabs from Caye Caulker, Kit will let me pick out a few colossals and reserve them for dinner. That's good eatin'!

            1. re: Veggo

              That is very nice, and I would greatly appreciate such.

              Way, way back when, I used to sell much of my day's catch to some local restaurants on the Gulf Coast. While none of the restaurants listed ME as the fisherman, they did state where, when and how, those fish were caught. Guess that I should have been on Maui, and sold to Mama's? Heck, I might be famous by now.

              Travel safely, and dine well,


              1. re: Bill Hunt

                Bill Hunt You Are famous here! I always read your posts with appreciation and learn a great deal.

                1. re: Quine

                  Those are very kind words, and I am definitely sure that I am not worthy of them.

                  Actually Veggo is the "master," and we are all but "grasshoppers."

                  Still, thank you for the thoughts,


        2. I would have no problem asking about the source of any ingredient on a menu. It is then my choice what to order depending upon the answer.

          1. Yes, you can ask: "Is it Local?" This video may help.


            And yeah, your chef friend is an idiot.

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            1. re: thegforceny

              ROFL and LOL (just because) That video was funny!

              Personally, when I wish to buy the best and freshest fish/seafood possible, I go to either an Asian Supermarket (Hong Kong Supermarket) or H Mart.

              I'd say that the "long time chef" is speaking from a place of long time ignorance and stereotyping.

                1. re: thegforceny

                  2.5 minutes of my life I will never get 3.5 minutes including this post. Probably doesnt come off as funny (to me) because its too close to the truth, are there really people like this in the world?

                  1. re: joe777cool

                    LQTM (laughing quietly to myself) - I have seen people like that in restaurants. Maybe not as exaggerated but almost

                    1. re: joe777cool

                      Yes, as a matter of fact, there are. And I hear they post on this site called Chowhound!

                      1. re: thegforceny

                        Just before I got to your reply I thought to myself, "the chicken's name was Colin."

                      2. Absolutely no reason why you shouldnt ask about sourcing - for example, I would always ask in which country veal had been raised.

                        Of course, they may not know the answer. Or lie.

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                        1. re: Harters


                          With seafood, I would disagree.

                          There are many differences, and some, not so subtle, say with sole, or flounder (cousins). Same with both shrimp and crabs. A petrale sole from US waters will be quite different that a real Dover sole. An Alaskan salmon will be greatly different, than an Atlantic salmon, or a Scottish salmon. Same for a Chesapeake Bay blue crab vs a Gulf blue crab. It can make a difference, and sometimes a great difference.

                          As to knowing the answer, or their veracity, that is a different story. I recently called out a chef in the Mid-Atlantic region, and confronted him about "fresh, live softshelled crabs." They were obviously long frozen, and even rancid, though he claimed that they were alive that morning. No way. They were frozen, and had actually spoiled. Now, had I been a tourist from the hinterlands, I might have bought his tales. However, I have harvested softshelled crabs, and have had the best on Earth. When backed into a corner, he finally admitted that they WERE frozen, and that they could well have gone bad. Until that last moment, he held tough, until confronted with the facts - the crabs were mushy and also spoiled. He could not eat them.

                          Not sure about veal, but with seafood, it DOES matter.