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Is Spicy & Tasty still good?

swannee Mar 11, 2012 08:58 AM

I haven't been to S & T in about 2 years and I know they have new owners. I have noted when walking by that it is no longer nearly as popular as in years past. Has its star faded? When last there I took a group from Hubei who loved it.

Spicy & Tasty
39-07 Prince St, Queens, NY 11354

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  1. MOREKASHA RE: swannee Mar 11, 2012 03:53 PM

    Still the same. same help, same fella up front at the cold tabler and I assume same chef. Food is as good as it ever was.

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      jimmyjazz RE: swannee Mar 11, 2012 06:46 PM

      Agreed. Still spicy, still very tasty.

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        Hank Stamper RE: swannee Mar 14, 2012 09:37 AM

        No, it's terrible. Please don't go. And tell your friends not to go - especially on a Friday or Saturday night : )

        Srsly, I was just there this weekend and it is stil great.

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          staccato RE: Hank Stamper Aug 28, 2012 06:02 PM

          Never give an inch!

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            Hank Stamper RE: staccato Aug 28, 2012 07:05 PM

            Glad you caught it!

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              Polecat RE: Hank Stamper Aug 29, 2012 01:31 PM

              That is, indeed, sometimes a great notion.

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          shiwujoe RE: swannee Sep 21, 2012 05:09 AM

          it's definitely good (great) , you just have to know what to order. i would recommend going with at least 3 different dishes that compliment / contrast each other for the best experience.

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            AubWah RE: shiwujoe Sep 21, 2012 06:16 AM

            what are your favorite dishes to order?

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              shiwujoe RE: AubWah Sep 21, 2012 06:18 AM

              the appetizers up front are mostly great. there is a section of ma-la type dishes on the last page of the menu and i always order one of those. there's a shrimp and peanut dish that i love.

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                swannee RE: AubWah Sep 21, 2012 07:31 AM

                My favorites: Pressed tofu with celery, Seaweed with garlic, Clams with wasabi, Cumin lamb, Water-cooked anything, Vinegar stewed white cabbage, Twiced cooked pork belly, Fish with tofu, Squid with pickled vegetable, 3 Glass chicken. The English names may differ a little.
                Disappointments: Tea-smoked duck, Sour long beans, Dumplings.
                All the cold dishes are good, but some (eg the beef tendon) are better elsewhere. The 3 Glass chicken is testimony to the Taiwanese owners. I took some people from Sichuan, and they had never heard of it-----but they loved it!!

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                  shiwujoe RE: swannee Sep 21, 2012 07:36 AM

                  where can I get better beef tendon? I find it's a little one dimensional at Nan Xian.

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                    swannee RE: shiwujoe Sep 21, 2012 07:58 AM

                    Absolute best used to be the now closed original Grand Sichuan on Canal. Now I am looking. Any ideas?

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                      Peter Cuce RE: shiwujoe Sep 21, 2012 08:16 AM

                      Little Pepper has a good one, and I think the one I had at Legend was pretty good as well.

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                        diprey11 RE: shiwujoe Sep 22, 2012 03:29 PM

                        Chengdu Heaven at the bottom level of The Golden Mall has the best version, by a large margin IMHO.

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                          RevImmigrant RE: diprey11 Sep 23, 2012 02:37 AM

                          Does the Golden Mall have an elevator?

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                            JRogan RE: RevImmigrant Sep 23, 2012 06:29 AM

                            Golden Mall definitely does not have an elevator. There's like 12 stairs, maybe, but they're sort of steep...

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                              Peter Cuce RE: JRogan Sep 23, 2012 08:10 PM

                              If you enter on the 41st Rd side, there is a ramp that takes you into the back of the basement level of the Golden Mall. If you enter on the Main Street side, you can explore the top level which also has many food stalls and a bathroom in the rear.

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                              diprey11 RE: RevImmigrant Sep 23, 2012 07:58 AM

                              No, sorry. It's one flight down, and the Sichuan stall is next to the Main St entrance. But the entrance s not particularly accessible: the stairs are steep and make a sharp left turn. But the food is truly amazing. Never mind the stall, they have a very good chef

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                    Zier RE: swannee Sep 25, 2012 04:26 AM

                    Last time I was by there it had been closed by order of the NYC health dept.!
                    Interesting to know it is re-opened. Seems to me that since the new owners took over it has gone way down. I was a reg customer but have sadly abandoned the place.

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                      Bob Martinez RE: Zier Sep 25, 2012 06:20 AM

                      It was closed for about 3 days. It re-opened in mid July.

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                        swannee RE: Zier Sep 25, 2012 08:43 AM

                        I have been back a couple of times since it re-opened and find it as good as ever, although I regret that they no longer serve stinky tofu. Zier, what did you find worse than before?

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                          Zier RE: swannee Sep 25, 2012 01:02 PM

                          Thanks for the feedback swannee. For me Lack of chòu dòufu was a big disappointment since theirs was the best I had outside of Taiwan. The couple of times I was there post management change the food was too greasy and just not up to par for the restaurant. I am not a big fan of restaurant food so I look for something exceptional to make me loyal to a place, and the former S&T certainly had 'it'. I would give it another shot to see but, once you get out of the habit... Another fabulous place that I used to eat at regularly the former David's Taiwanese Gourmet in Elmhurst went into the tank for a few years but has re-emerged as a pretty good, albeit overpriced, place re-named Taiwanese Gourmet.. So I am patient. :-) Where else do you frequent in Flushing. I am always on the lookout for a place with well prepared fresh food.

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                            swannee RE: Zier Sep 25, 2012 01:18 PM

                            Fu Run is good if one orders well. Hunan Taste at Sichuan whatever ditto. I actually like the Taiwanese family restaurant next to S& T for the Family meals (only in Chinese, I think). I also like another Family meal place, this one Shangaiese near the North end of Prince St. (I forget the name, something with Noodle). My wife and I often go to these places because we can order 4 or 5 dishes plus soup and not spend much or take it all home.
                            I agree that S & T had the best chou dou fu. Did you ever have their San Bei Ji, another Taiwanese dish? They do it really well.

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                              Zier RE: swannee Sep 25, 2012 01:34 PM

                              What does order well mean at Fu Run? BTW where is it located?
                              My wife and I used to like some of the dishes at the Chao Zhou Restaurant on Main and 41st but have not been back since it was renovated. Also Golden Palace on Cherry is still a dependable spot.
                              Haven't experienced S&T's San Bei Ji. I am always a little apprehensive with ordering chicken in Chinese places because I do not know what quality bird they use.
                              But the problem remains where to find top notch chou dou fu dishes? The simple deep fried variety was never my fav.
                              One thing I loved about the food in Taiwan was how fresh it was. I have not found this particular feature sufficiently in many NYC Chinese places. Also sine the sad death over a decade ago of Po Ti formerly on Main St there has not been an authentic Chinese vegetarian place in NYC to frequent.

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                                swannee RE: Zier Sep 25, 2012 01:42 PM

                                Fu Run is Dongbei place also on Prince St. There is an excellent Chowhound thread on it with lots of recommendations. I also miss good vegetarian Chinese. the Family place next to S & T has mala chou doufu , but I've never been able to order it because of squeamish table mates.
                                Imperial Palace is a good Cantonese place. Lau has an excellent posting. t is on the other side of Main St. but also near the subway stop.

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                                  missmasala RE: Zier Sep 25, 2012 06:22 PM

                                  Funny, after today's chow digest (or whatever it's called) I went on the bobo chicken website and they list the restaurants that use their birds. So if you want to order chicken in a restaurant, go to one listed on their website and then you'll be getting bobo chicken

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                                    squid kun RE: missmasala Sep 25, 2012 07:18 PM

                                    One thing about that website, though: It hasn't been updated in a while and lists a number of businesses that are now closed.

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                                    scoopG RE: Zier Sep 26, 2012 02:09 PM

                                    Here's some Fu Run threads:

                                    Fu Run – Manchurian

                                    Have you been to Main Street Imperial yet? Arguably the best Taiwanese spot in Flushing. If you are concerned about chicken sources then opt for their Three Cup Tofu instead.

                                    Main Street Imperial – Taiwanese

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                                      AubWah RE: scoopG Sep 26, 2012 03:17 PM

                                      scoop I'm curious what your favorite few dishes are at fu run?

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                                        scoopG RE: AubWah Sep 26, 2012 07:20 PM

                                        AubWah - the Muslim Lamb Chip is a signature dish! Also their Mung Bean Sheet Noodles with cucumber is great. It's been awhile since I've been there.

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                            RevImmigrant RE: swannee Sep 26, 2012 06:09 PM

                            I took a taxi to Spicy and Tasty last night after I arrived at my hotel and got some food to take back to my room. I had dumplings in red chile sauce, noodles with meat sauce and sliced pork with fresh chile. The dumplings were pretty good. The noodles with meat sauce was bland and didn't have much flavor. I had to add soy sauce and chile-garlic sauce to make it taste better As for the sliced pork, it was very greasy. It had the Sichuan peppercorns, but not too much chile and was, frankly, a little bland for my tastes. It was like the Exxon Valdez oil spill on a plate. In fact, all of their food was greasy, but the portions were very large. I was very disappointed as I wanted to have some really good Chinese food while I was here. Where I live in Mexico is a waste for Chinese food.

                            Today I went to a mall on the corner of Roosevelt and some other street and found a grocery store, Sky. I got most of the items on my list to take home and since they have a deli with cooked food, got some cooked food from their deli for lunch. Overall, it was better than the food from Spicy and Tasty.

                            I don't know what I'll find tomorrow, but I leave early Friday morning, so I hope I can find some really good Chinese food tomorrow.

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                              Zier RE: RevImmigrant Sep 26, 2012 06:28 PM

                              There are a number of places recommended in the posts just above. Try'em.

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                                swannee RE: RevImmigrant Sep 26, 2012 07:07 PM

                                I must say that I feel you didn't order well at S & T

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                                  scoopG RE: RevImmigrant Sep 26, 2012 07:18 PM

                                  noodles with meat sauce was bland

                                  What dish are you talking about?

                                2. Bob Martinez RE: swannee Oct 30, 2013 02:26 PM

                                  Yep. Still good. When we were out at the US Open at the end of August we stopped in to S&T. The place is still hitting on all cylinders.

                                  The Dumplings In Red Chili Sauce were firm, meaty, and had plenty of heat.


                                  The Dan-Dan noodles were very good - an 8.5 compared to Little pepper's 10.


                                  The dry lamb with chili peppers was excellent. Plenty of fully spiced heat with a robust lamb flavor.


                                  The shredded pork with garlic sauce was fine for what it was. It's was well made but it didn't have a whole lot of personality. Our fault - we should have picked something else.



                                  Next year I expect to get out to Citi Field a lot more. I look forward to making S&T a part of every trip.

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                                    diprey11 RE: swannee Nov 5, 2013 05:41 PM

                                    Good compared to what? It hasn't faded that much: still going...

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                                      Lau RE: diprey11 Nov 7, 2013 07:30 AM

                                      i dont think its faded, but people just stopped talking about it...i mean a long time ago it was a board darling then a ton of sichuan restaurants opened and people forgot about it

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                                        Pookipichu RE: Lau Nov 7, 2013 07:38 AM

                                        Totally, I still eat there all the time, it hasn't faded so much as faded from discussion. That's fine though because it's much less crowded than when it was talked about constantly.

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                                          Lau RE: Pookipichu Nov 7, 2013 07:59 AM

                                          true although i prefer restaurants i like to be crowded bc i want them to stay in business!

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                                      Pookipichu RE: swannee Jun 2, 2014 06:45 AM

                                      I eat at Spicy Tasty quite often, it's pretty consistently good, just not as great as it was years ago, but still respectable. Their three pepper chicken is still a better rendition than I've had at Sichuan restaurants in the city (e.g. Szechuan Gourmet).

                                      Their beef tendon is usually very good-good and their water cooked dishes good and sometimes very good.

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                                        swannee RE: Pookipichu Jun 3, 2014 08:46 PM

                                        Thanks for the report. Are the cold dishes still good other than the tendon---their celery with pressed tofu used to rock.

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                                          Pookipichu RE: swannee Jun 4, 2014 07:05 AM

                                          The celery with pressed tofu is good, there's not really uniformity in the size of the celery but at this price point, I'm not expecting refinement.

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                                            MOREKASHA RE: swannee Jun 4, 2014 04:05 PM

                                            Just picked up some dishes for take out back to Manhattan last night. The tofu salad was still goo, The rest was fine, considering the drive back and then we had to leave it sitting in the containers for an hour while junior was running or assess of. Though, I think there's new owners again. The "Mr Clean" fella behind the cold counter is no longer there as well.

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                                          Simon RE: swannee Jun 4, 2014 05:39 PM

                                          i almost went a few days ago, but the 7 train diversion forced us to take the E first, and once we had to change trains at Roosevelt Ave/JacksonHghts, the temptation was too great not to get off and walk to Ayada for Thai :)

                                          But will go to S&T within a week or two and order widely/wildly and report back...

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                                            Pookipichu RE: Simon Jun 4, 2014 07:00 PM

                                            Are you going with a group? If you want company I'd be happy to help with the ordering wildly :)

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                                              Simon RE: Pookipichu Jun 5, 2014 06:05 PM

                                              thanks for the offer!...on this Flushing trip though, i'm taking one person who's never been to Flushing and we'll be roaming a lot, so not the best day for a group meetup...but another day, sure :)

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                                                Simon RE: Simon Jun 14, 2014 09:46 AM

                                                We went on Friday afternoon, but didn't order as wildly as i had planned, as we were full from food crawling in Golden Mall...after pork&fennel dumplings from Best North, and then seabass dumplings and cold bamboo from Tianjin Dumpling House, we ended up wandering and then getting takeout from Spicy&Tasty to bring back to Manhattan for dinner...we had:

                                                -- cold bamboo, perfectly fine but not as tender as the version from Tianjin Dumpling House...

                                                -- cold chicken w/ chili oil...delicious...will order again...

                                                -- shrimp w/ hot green chilis, black bean, and spinach...delicious, though the spinach wasn't so good w/ all the oil (though this surely would have been better had it not sat on the 7 train for 40 minutes)...i might try one of their other shrimp dishes next time, but would also order it again not-takeout...

                                                -- lamb w/ cumin, decent, but i might not order it again, as i didn't find it any better than various versions at the Manhattan places...(again, feel free to discount for the takeout factor)...

                                                We also got takeout cucumbers from Chengdu Heaven in the Golden Mall (too sweet)...and a pack of 50 frozen seabass dumplings from Tianjin Dumpling House...

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                                            swannee RE: swannee Jun 13, 2014 06:27 AM

                                            Went with a group of Chinese friends last night. Mostly very good, not nearly as crowded as years ago, but still reasonably busy, two huge very happy groupd from Sichuan.
                                            Of the cold dishes, the pressed tofu and tendon were both a little disappointing, the seaweed wonderful. The fish with bean paste (they say carp, but is most definitely NOT carp) was excellent, the twiced cooked porkbelly very good (if very oily), the cabbage with vinegar a tad bland, the water cooked beef good, the 3 cup chicken (why in a Sichuan place??) still IMO the best in NYC. And for those who like it really hot, the tiper peppers were the single hottest thing I have eaten in 25 years; it varied by the chili, of course, and they had really tried to steer us away from them, but they were delicious---and really, really, really hot.

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