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POLL: Can you walk to an actual grocery store?

coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 10:29 AM

Just curious.

My definition of "grocery store" requires that they sell fresh meats, fruit/vegetables, and bread other than Wonder-type. No 7-11 type convenience stores. Walking distance? If you can walk there in 10-15 minutes, that qualifies.

I currently live walking distance from a full line, albeit very small, store. (Detroit MI suburb)

I know this is going to be different for region/country so please specify city/state and country if outside the US.

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    60s Girl RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 10:34 AM

    I can because I live in Center City Philadelphia. I'm about a seven-minute walk to a SuperFresh and a Whole Food.

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      Jenny Ondioline RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 10:35 AM

      Allston, MA (part of Boston): less than five minutes' walk to a very large 24-hour Star Market that's probably the best single location of this oft-maligned (and not always unfairly) chain. Even closer, there's an Asian supermarket that has seen some tough times but has largely rebounded from its problems. (They also have a killer food court.) 15-minute walk to a decent but unexceptional Stop & Shop. 20-minute walk to a Trader Joe's, and (though I almost never go there) about the same to a decent Whole Foods. On the way to the TJs, there's a decent Jewish supermarket with kosher meats and the like, and there's both a full-service butcher and a fishmonger in that neighborhood as well.

      Plus walking distance to an outstanding farmers market every summer. So yeah, I'm kinda set.

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        viperlush RE: Jenny Ondioline Mar 8, 2012 11:26 AM

        Cambridge MA (Cambridgeport). 5 min walk to a Star Market 5 min walk to a Co-op 10 min walk to Trader Joe's and Whole Foods 15-20 min walk to a different Whole Foods 20-25 min walk to the Star Market & Asian Supermarket mentioned above. Plus some farmers markets, but I don't shop at them.

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          GFHappyPlace RE: viperlush Mar 8, 2012 03:33 PM

          My, how I envy you! Whole Foods & a TJs within walking distance. I'm looking at a 25 minute walk at a QFC if I hoof it. Good question to think about next time we look for a new home!

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            viperlush RE: GFHappyPlace Mar 10, 2012 05:43 PM

            I rarely shop at either. Usually drive 20 min to a fabulous market (Russo's) and to 10 min to a cheaper grocery store chain (Market Basket).

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              Jenny Ondioline RE: viperlush Mar 11, 2012 11:26 AM

              To be fair, we make the 15-minute drive to Russo's most of the time as well.

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                mahlzeit_yumyum RE: Jenny Ondioline Mar 15, 2012 06:17 PM

                Wish we lived that close to Russo's!

                Somerville, MA
                3 blocks from a Foodmaster
                5 minute bike ride to Shaw's
                5 minute bike ride to Whole Foods
                10 minute walk or 2 minute bike ride to Dave's Pasta (cured meats and small grocery)
                5 minute bike ride to Pemberton's

                A few others that I rarely go to:
                2 blocks to a convenience store/Indian market
                3-5 minute bike ride to a mom-and-pop Korean market or Capone's (Italian specialty store)

                With a car, too many to count.
                My regular markets are: Shaw's, Pemberton's, Whole Foods and Reliable.
                Oh, and Foodmaster because it's so convenient, but more for in a pinch because it's not the best for produce or bread.

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            jgg13 RE: viperlush Mar 13, 2012 07:31 PM

            Cambridge MA - central square. Basically the same places that Viper mentions, just with slightly different numbers for proximity :)

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            Cachetes RE: Jenny Ondioline Mar 10, 2012 07:17 AM

            We live very close to eachother. I'm about 5 minutes from that Trader Joes, 7 from Stop and Shop, 10 from both Star Market (small one) and Brighton Whole Foods. Russian Bazaar is a 1 minute walk, and of course, the beloved (though expensive) farmers market!

            I grew up in an area where the nearest small grocery store was a 20 minute drive away, so this is all very new for me!

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              DrMag RE: Cachetes Mar 11, 2012 03:39 PM

              Hi neighbors! I'm closest to Trader Joes (<5 min walk) and about 10 min to Stop and Shop, but I must admit that my weekly go-to is Russos.

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            LeoLioness RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 10:35 AM

            I can walk to over a dozen grocery stores/ethnic markets/specialty stores.

            I think my neighborhood has a 90% walkability rating? It's a big reason of why I live here--I really like not owning a car.

            (I'm in the Camberville section of the Boston area.)

            1. ttoommyy RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 10:37 AM

              Hoboken, NJ. I can walk to about 5 grocery stores that I can think of off the top of my head.

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                mpjmph RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 10:47 AM

                I live in a small city/large town in North Carolina. I used to live in an apartment complex with a shopping center about a five minute walk away. I could walk to a full service grocery store (bakery, deli, butcher, etc), small Chinese take out place, drug store, take Southern/Soul Food restaurant, and a couple of fast food places. It was pretty routine for me to get off the bus in the evenings and stop by the store before crossing the street to get home. I was also about a 20-30 minute walk from the farmers' market, and chose to walk on Saturday mornings when the weather was nice.

                I moved about 10 months ago, and now I can't safely walk to the store. It honestly would only take about 15 minutes to get there on foot, but there are no sidewalks for most of the route and the road is pretty narrow with no shoulder to speak of.

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                  jaykayen RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 10:50 AM

                  Yes. I'd love to bike there, but I live at the top of a hill and the store is at the bottom...

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                    hambone RE: jaykayen Mar 21, 2012 06:28 AM

                    Sounds like biking THERE should not be an issue.

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                      sunshine842 RE: hambone Mar 21, 2012 12:53 PM

                      something about laboring back up the hill pushing the bike AND the groceries AND trying not to have a coronary on the way, leaving you to roll back down the hill through the river of melted ice cream that just takes all the fun out of things.....

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                        monfrancisco RE: sunshine842 Mar 24, 2012 01:28 PM

                        Indeed! As someone should have said, "It's the topo, stupid." I live five (mostly flat) blocks from a terrific but pretty small independent full grocery store. There are also a Whole Foods and a Safeway and a TJ's that are theoretically an easy walk away, but I need to weigh (hah!) my list carefully-- milk or cat food or laundry soap? Which will it be? Still and all, I certainly can't complain. At all.

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                          Jenny Ondioline RE: monfrancisco Mar 25, 2012 12:05 AM

                          Even a fairly spendy folding grocery cart only runs about $25-$30, and with it, you could stroll home with all three of those items, a frozen turkey and one of those giant 36-packs of loo roll.

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                            monfrancisco RE: Jenny Ondioline Mar 25, 2012 01:24 PM

                            But of course! You know, that's a damned good idea. Certainly would make the trudge up my cliff with that list more feasible! Thanks much.

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                          hambone RE: sunshine842 May 7, 2012 03:48 PM

                          I was teasing that if you live on top of the hill and the store is at the bottom, the ride THERE is easy. It is (as you elegantly describe) the ride home that is the problem.

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                            sunshine842 RE: hambone May 8, 2012 12:14 AM

                            and the highly-dramatic response was an attempt at humor.

                    2. rockandroller1 RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 10:52 AM

                      I can, but it's a half hour. I do this from time to time for exercise, but obviously cannot haul that much stuff both ways as it's quite a trek. I wear a backpack and put whatever I buy in there. It's good exercise but if I have an hour to spare, I would rather use it at the gym where I can get more targeted exercise.

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                        emmekin RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 10:53 AM

                        I'm a 15 min walk to a Fiesta (fairly large, well-stocked hispanic supermarket) and my neighborhood Kroger. Less than 10 min drive to a farmers market (probably a 35-40 min walk though).
                        I live in houston. So its a fairly sprawling area but I live very IN town and in a walk/bike-friendly urban neighborhood.

                        1. Perilagu Khan RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 10:58 AM

                          I live in Lubbock, Texas, and although I have not attempted it, I could probably walk to the nearest grocery store in 15 minutes. It'd be close though.

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                            Jenny Ondioline RE: Perilagu Khan Mar 8, 2012 11:03 AM

                            Heh. When I lived on the corner of 93rd and Ave X, it was 20 minutes to a 7-11 at 82nd and University! There's a United there now, but it came in after my time.

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                              Perilagu Khan RE: Jenny Ondioline Mar 8, 2012 12:42 PM

                              93rd and X is still sort of on the outskirts of town, but at least you were close to The Strip! But get this--Lubbock is now wet.

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                              hawkeyeui93 RE: Perilagu Khan Mar 8, 2012 11:36 AM

                              How is the dust this Spring? I spend a few fine years in Lubbock in the mid-1990's when I was getting my JD from Tech Law School ...

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                                Perilagu Khan RE: hawkeyeui93 Mar 8, 2012 12:44 PM

                                The dust has been pretty bad so far. As you probably know, the entire state of Texas is still in the midst of a severe drought, which only worsens the dusty conditions. We had a powerful cold front kick through this morning which brought the twin pleasures of dust and icy wind chill factors.

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                                  hawkeyeui93 RE: Perilagu Khan Mar 8, 2012 03:58 PM

                                  When I lived there, it went over a year without measurable precipitation ... Brutal! I do remember the cold fronts that can whip through there, but they are nothing like what I grew up with and presently endure in North Central Iowa.

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                              tardigrade RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 10:59 AM

                              Palo Alto, CA: there's a small market two blocks away that has a large but always changing selection of stuff (good for when I'm out of bread, milk, lettuce), a Mexican grocery about fifteen minutes away by foot where I buy peppers, spices and occasionally meats, another general small market and another Mexican grocery a bit farther, Whole Foods one mile from my house, and Safeway, somewhat over a mile. There's a Trader Joe's about 20-25 minutes away, along with another large local grocery store. There's also a 7-11 and a tiny corner store that looks like a holdover from the 40s about 5 blocks away. I'm not counting the Farmers' Market because that's seasonal.

                              Except for the Safeway, the 7-11, the 40s holdover and the large local grocery none of those existed when we moved here in the 1980s.

                              1. JerryMe RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 11:00 AM

                                Central Phoenix and yes, I'm a block away from a full grocery store which is much appreciated and used often. I'm also a block away from a Starbucks that is entirely too tempting.

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                                  kathleen440 RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 11:07 AM

                                  Center city DC. The grocery store 5 minutes from me closed for renovations and will reopen in 2014, possibly 2015 - I'm now a 20 minute walk from both a Whole Foods and a huge, 24-hour Safeway. I bike to both to save time.

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                                    beachmouse RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 11:20 AM

                                    Niceville, Florida in a large scale development bankrolled by a German industrialist. So the area is more pedestrian/bike friendly than a lot of the state. It's less than a 10 minute walk to an unfortunately mediocre and overpriced Winn-Dixie (only stop there for 1-2 items when it's not worth it to pay bridge toll for the preferred good Publix & Fresh Market option about five miles away) and assorted small shopping centers with Japanese, Mexican, Italian/pizza, ice cream parlor, fish place, etc. options as well as the usual fast food outposts.

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                                      lbs RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 11:30 AM

                                      Chicago: 5 min walk to Harvestime (local mid size grocery store with amazing cheap produce); 10 min walk to the Jewel (major grocery store), 5 min walk to Gene's (local specialty store), 20 min walk to Trader Joes and 30 min walk to Whole Foods (both of those are on bus lines/el lines too). No car and I don't drive anyway so I picked my neighborhood carefully.

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                                        hawkeyeui93 RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 11:33 AM

                                        I live on the edge of Iowa State University's campus [Ames, IA, population approx. 60K] and I live exactly one mile from a extremely large, full-service grocery store called Hy-Vee.

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                                          Jeebs RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 11:35 AM

                                          Butte, MT
                                          I'm about one half mile to Hennessey Market. We waited 6 years to get a grocery store uptown. Before that it was more than two miles to Safeway.

                                          1. ocshooter RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 11:37 AM

                                            I am about 5 blocks or so from a full-service, large, major chain (Albertson's) grocery store. I walk a few blocks out from my development and then along the main side road that accesses my neighbor, up a flight of stairs into the back end of a large strip mall, and there it is. I don' do the walk too often though. If I am walking, I feel bad not bringing the dog along, and he is too high strung to leave tied up while I walk in.

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                                              deeman RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 11:39 AM

                                              Central Phoenix here too and there is one grocery store about 2 blocks from my house which has just about everything and several nice independent restaurants withing walking distance too. The weather right now is perfect for walking! But in a couple months it will be brutal.

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                                                davmar77 RE: deeman Mar 8, 2012 11:43 AM

                                                we are in clifton park, ny which is half way between albany and saratoga springs. we don't have any markets within walking distance. where we used to live, nassau county, ny, we had one a few blocks away which was handy.

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                                                KateBChi RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 11:39 AM

                                                Chicago here. Less than 5 minutes to Potash Brothers and Treasure Island. Less than 15 minutes to a Jewell, another Treasure Island and specialty stores that sell just spices, many olive oils and vinegars. I could probably walk to a Whole Foods if I hurried

                                                1. 512window RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 11:47 AM

                                                  Sunnyvale, CA (aka deepest darkest Silicon Valley)
                                                  I have two markets in reasonable walking distance, a Smart and Final and a Safeway. If I get really ambitious, the Whole Foods is 3 miles away.

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                                                    RelishPDX RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 11:55 AM

                                                    Portland, OR. I live in what's known as a "food desert" here (yes, they even have a term for it!). 25 minute walk to an Albertson's in one direction, 30 minutes to a Fred Meyer and Safeway in another direction.

                                                    The Safeway used to be much closer 15 years ago, but it took so long for the muni officials to plan where mass transit would go, instead of expanding, Safeway sold the land to a developer and moved. Their space now has apartments and retail space that still isn't full of shops.

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                                                      INDIANRIVERFL RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 11:59 AM

                                                      Car centric Melbourne Florida. Land is cheap, so everything is spread out.

                                                      1. rosetown RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 12:28 PM

                                                        Calgary Alberta - ethnic suburban

                                                        - o - 7 minutes to a Superstore - good, but incomplete, selection of Middle Eastern, South ........Asian, SE Asian, Chinese, Filipino, and Japanese.
                                                        - o - 7 minutes to a small Punjabi grocery
                                                        - o - 15 minute walk to an Afghani bakery - superb naan
                                                        - o - 15 minute walk to a large light industrial area, devoid of ambiance, filled with ethnic food, family .........owned stores - think Punjabi, Bangladeshi, Malaysian, Filipino, Middle Eastern and others.

                                                        For a better selection I have to drive, but no more than 10 minutes by car or 15 minutes by transit.

                                                        1. Bob W RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 12:39 PM

                                                          I live in the far VA suburbs of DC, but I can walk to my very nice Harris-Teeter in 10-15 minutes.

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                                                            chocolatetartguy RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 12:41 PM

                                                            Here in Berkeley and Oakland, CA, I have lived within 2-3 blocks of a grocery store for most of my life. Recently the store 1.5 blocks from my mother's house that had been open since my childhood closed and I have to say that living so close really spoils you. Now I may do without milk or eggs for a week and have to plan ahead. It is sooo convenient to just walk a couple of blocks when you need one ingredient.

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                                                              bitchincook RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 12:57 PM

                                                              Tucson's Catalina Foothills. Though there is a Safeway in one direction and an AJ's Fine Foods in the other, both are too far to walk and to attempt to do so would be suicidal, given the nature of the road. It's narrow with no sidewalks or shoulders, and cars go 55 mph at least. I do my walking indoors out of the dust and heat on my treadmill. To get groceries, I take my nifty new Volvo C-30, which I bought after my adult son totaled my trusty 13-year-old XC-70.

                                                              1. bagelman01 RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 01:00 PM

                                                                Grocery Store, No, Supermarket, YES.
                                                                I can walk to Stop and Shop in 12 minutes, here in Trumbull, CT

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                                                                  bbqboy RE: bagelman01 Mar 12, 2012 07:46 AM

                                                                  What's the difference to you? The terms are the same to me.

                                                                2. elfcook RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 01:15 PM

                                                                  No. I could walk (15 min) to the gas station/mini mart/Dunkin Donuts (the only non-deli/restaurant establishment selling foods in my small town). To go to an actual grocery store, I have to leave town. The closest store is WalMart, which will do for pantry-type goods in a pinch. My grocery store is a Hannaford's one town over, which is about a 15 minute drive. I am in MA, in the woods.

                                                                  1. meatn3 RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 01:16 PM

                                                                    Raleigh, NC

                                                                    I'm about 1.5 miles from a bare bones grocery. Would require walking along busy roads without sidewalks. Doable, but not preferable.

                                                                    1. JuniorBalloon RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 01:20 PM

                                                                      I live in the boonies, so no store within a 5 minute walk, not even ten or twenty. 6 miles to nearest store, and 10 to one I actually want to shop at and 16 to nearest Whole foods.


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                                                                        ukitali RE: JuniorBalloon Mar 8, 2012 01:32 PM

                                                                        Yep, about a dozen in a 10 block radius around me. Definitely spoiled in downtown Manhattan. Very happy I don't have to drive to the store.

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                                                                          whitneybee RE: ukitali Mar 8, 2012 03:55 PM

                                                                          Very spoiled in uptown Manhattan too. I live directly next door to a 24-hour Gristedes (far from my favorite store, but it's right there) and Fairway is down the block.

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                                                                          danna RE: JuniorBalloon Mar 8, 2012 02:19 PM

                                                                          Boonies here: 7 miles to any store, around 22 to Whole Foods...which I still can't believe came to Greenville , SC...but God bless 'em for it!

                                                                          Upside...it would take more than 5 minutes to walk to a neighbor's house! ;-)

                                                                        3. Chemicalkinetics RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 01:31 PM

                                                                          No, I cannot walk to a grocery store. It takes me more than 15 minutes just to walk out of my housing community, so no, nothing is within walking distance.

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                                                                            Blush RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 01:59 PM

                                                                            Until November 2011 I lived in London, Ontario, Canada; pop'n closing in on 400,000. I could walk to three grocery stores (Food Basics, Metro and Loblaws), and 2 of them were walks shorter than 5 minutes.

                                                                            Now I live on the shore of Lake Huron, and my closest grocery stores (Sobeys and Zehrs) are a 15-20 minute drive away in Kincardine (pop'n 12,000). I'm still getting used to stocking up on weekends rather than popping over just before supper. I have, though, been pleasantly surprised by the selection.

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                                                                              escondido123 RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 02:22 PM

                                                                              7/11 two blocks away, real grocery store Smart & Final 15 minutes away, small Mexican markets with varying produce/meat about same distance--but we generally shop at grocery store next to a TJs which is 7 minutes by car.

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                                                                                escondido123 RE: escondido123 Mar 8, 2012 05:02 PM

                                                                                Oh, and 3 blocks from my house there is a Farmers' Market every Tuesday 3-6. Great produce, breads, Greek specialties and lots of ready to eat foods like squash blossom tacos and Indian curries.

                                                                              2. grayelf RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 02:26 PM

                                                                                Vancouver, BC; 5 minutes to a Safeway, a bulk food store and two well stocked green grocers, 7 minutes to a Mediterranean deli. If we could get a specialty meat/poultry/fishmonger in the same zone, I'd never leave, except to go out to eat of course :-).

                                                                                1. sunshine842 RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 02:36 PM

                                                                                  small town somewhere near Paris:

                                                                                  Within 15-20 minutes on foot: 7 (yes, 7) bakeries, a cheese shop, 3 butchers, a greengrocer, 2 wine shops, a pastry shop (the bakeries do both bread and pastries), an award-winning chocolatier, a fishmonger, and 2 delis.

                                                                                  That's not counting the open-air market every week, which adds another deli, 4 butchers, 2 charcutiers, 3 poultry vendors, about 6 greengrocers, 3 fishmongers, and 4 more cheese shops, as well as the seasonal stalls -- apples, asparagus, strawberries, and endive

                                                                                  yes, I'm spoiled rotten -- and I love it.

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                                                                                    Perilagu Khan RE: sunshine842 Mar 8, 2012 03:18 PM

                                                                                    Paris, Texas obviously. ;)

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                                                                                      sunshine842 RE: Perilagu Khan Mar 8, 2012 03:37 PM

                                                                                      Of course -- I forgot about the six barbecue joints


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                                                                                      mariacarmen RE: sunshine842 Mar 12, 2012 03:13 PM

                                                                                      yes, i take back my spoiled rotten status - you take the gateau!

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                                                                                        mahlzeit_yumyum RE: sunshine842 Mar 15, 2012 06:24 PM

                                                                                        as if the list wasn't already enough, the icing on that cake is the "award-winning chocolatier"

                                                                                      2. Motosport RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 02:43 PM

                                                                                        Yes, 1 1/2 blocks to Gristedes in Murray Hill NYC

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                                                                                          Querencia RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 04:07 PM

                                                                                          From home I can walk to Jewel, Dominicks, and Treasure Island (all chain supermarkets) as well as to WholeFoods, Trader Joe's, and Mariano's (an elegant huge urban supermarket) and to innumerable smaller food stores. In the summer I can walk to four farmers' markets. A short bus or subway ride takes me to any kind of ethnic or specialty market you can name. Chicago here: a paradise for food shopping.

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                                                                                            ilikefood RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 04:28 PM

                                                                                            I live a 10 minute walk from the 1st Trader Joe's, a Whole Foods flagship store is literally around the corner (Yes, literally), Gelson's "the Super Market" (my primary grocery because it really is super in all my expectations for a grocery) is a 10 minute walk, a Von's (Safeway to the rest of the country) is a 15 minute walk.

                                                                                            There are also over 100 eateries within about a 15 minute walk or less (some of them actually worth eating at).

                                                                                            There's a huge valuable prize* to the 1st person who guesses where I live (close proximity).

                                                                                            * A hearty heartfelt "Congratulations !" from me.

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                                                                                              hawkeyeui93 RE: ilikefood Mar 8, 2012 04:36 PM

                                                                                              Is the Rose Bowl there too?

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                                                                                                ilikefood RE: hawkeyeui93 Mar 8, 2012 04:41 PM

                                                                                                I believe there is. Congratulations ! . But I'll take that back if someone gets closer.

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                                                                                                  hawkeyeui93 RE: ilikefood Mar 8, 2012 04:45 PM

                                                                                                  Lots of surrounding towns, so I'm guessing Altadena or Glendale ...

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                                                                                                    goodhealthgourmet RE: hawkeyeui93 Mar 11, 2012 06:01 PM

                                                                                                    i think you were closer the first time - the inaugural TJ's was in So Pas, so the "flagship" WF in question is probably Arroyo Pkwy.

                                                                                                    ETA: aaand, i just scrolled down & saw that RelishPDX & laskiblue were well ahead of me...but do i get a special prize for specifying *South* Pasadena & the actual street? ;)

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                                                                                                      ilikefood RE: goodhealthgourmet Mar 12, 2012 11:50 PM

                                                                                                      According to the Trader Joe's I was referring to - 610 S Arroyo Pkwy Pasadena, they were the very 1st. They brag about it on signage posted in the store. Their offices and original warehouse were 1st located in South Pasadena,before
                                                                                                      moving to Monrovia Ca a few years ago.

                                                                                                      I live in Pasadena, but not on Arroyo Prkwy.

                                                                                                      Thanks to all who played along. Consider my "Thanks." a special prize, just slightly below the highly coveted most valued of prizes: "Congratulations."

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                                                                                                        laliz RE: ilikefood Mar 13, 2012 09:21 AM

                                                                                                        don't you just love their parking lot.

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                                                                                                arktos RE: ilikefood Mar 8, 2012 04:37 PM

                                                                                                Same block- Indian food store
                                                                                                1 block away- Two Mexican grocery stores, two Middle Eastern food markets. Another Indian market.
                                                                                                2 blocks away- Indian/Middle Eastern store. Cheese/deli place.

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                                                                                                    laskiblue RE: ilikefood Mar 9, 2012 09:23 PM

                                                                                                    Pasadena. :-)

                                                                                                    Edited to add: RelishPDX, I didn't see your answer before I posted.

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                                                                                                      gingershelley RE: ilikefood Mar 23, 2012 11:44 AM

                                                                                                      Pasedena, CA, Fair Oaks neighborhood?

                                                                                                      My sister lives in South Pas, and one of best friends in Alta Dena, so kind of know the area. Love it there!

                                                                                                    2. weezieduzzit RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 04:44 PM

                                                                                                      Two large chain groceries and a Trader Joe's are within a half mile. Its the specialty/ethnic markets that I have to travel further for.

                                                                                                      1. DiningDiva RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 04:51 PM

                                                                                                        I'm in San Diego. I can walk (three quarters of a mile) to a very nice, semi-upscale independent grocery store complete with in-house bakery and deli, liquor dept., generous produce section, good meats and, in general, a very good selection of staples.

                                                                                                        1. mcf RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 04:57 PM

                                                                                                          I can walk to two, in a NY suburb that is sort of like a small, walkable and clean city neighborhood. But I rarely do, because then I have to shlep stuff home with me. We often walk to restaurants, though, there are quite a few appealing ones of all kinds within a ten minute stroll radius, some a few minutes longer.

                                                                                                          1. whs RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 04:59 PM

                                                                                                            For 10 years we lived on a dirt road in one New Hampshire's most postcard perfect colonial villages. The general store was 4 miles away and the supermarket was 10 miles. Every food shopping trip required planning and if you forgot something, it meant a 15 minute drive round trip for a lemon. We finally moved into the North End of Manchester--higher population density, more diversity, wonderful Victorian homes. We can now walk to Angela's, an Italian salumeria with great cheeses that makes its own pasta, Bunny's, a funky superette with a great meat & poultry section, and the Farm & Fruit Stand, which carries local produce. We're loving it.

                                                                                                            1. Terrie H. RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 05:02 PM

                                                                                                              I live in a Washington, DC suburb in what was the heart of the original little town back in 1872 when the house was built. It is now completely engulfed in suburbia. But, I could walk to 2 supermarkets, 3 well-stocked Chinese markets if I wasn't so lazy. My neighbor doesn't drive and does the walk often.

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                                                                                                                Isolda RE: Terrie H. Mar 8, 2012 05:07 PM

                                                                                                                I live in Lexington, MA. I can walk less than half a mile to a Stop and Shop, (a terrible, rip-off, badly stocked grocery store,) or drive 3-4 miles to two Whole Foods, two Trader Joe's, a Korean Supermarket, and a Market Basket (cheap grocery store).

                                                                                                                I use the Stop and Shop when I'm out of milk or eggs, but drive when I really need to shop.

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                                                                                                                katsea RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 05:25 PM

                                                                                                                I live in a small town on OR. coast. I can walk to 2 grocery stores. Unfortunately, the prices are high. So, once a week or so, I drive 20 some miles to stock up on basics. I love the small town stores, and try to support them. But, saving 30 or more % is a lot. And the selection isn't that different. Makes me really sad.

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                                                                                                                  hotoynoodle RE: katsea Mar 10, 2012 09:20 AM

                                                                                                                  how does that shake out with gas around $4 a gallon though?

                                                                                                                  i live in massachusetts and walkability has always been a factor in where i choose to live. markets, both super and ethnic, liquor stores, wine shops, farmers' markets in-season, bakeries, restaurants of all sorts, diners, bars, bookstores... i'd be sad to death if these places weren't near enough to walk.

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                                                                                                                    escondido123 RE: hotoynoodle Mar 12, 2012 11:22 AM

                                                                                                                    And don't forget the library.....mine is only 3 blocks away and if I had to choose between it and the grocery store, it would be a tough decision.

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                                                                                                                      hotoynoodle RE: escondido123 Mar 12, 2012 10:04 PM

                                                                                                                      years ago, i had a very creepy skeevy flasher experience at the boston public library and have not been in one since.

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                                                                                                                  sueatmo RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 06:08 PM

                                                                                                                  Suburban St. Louis. We are saturated with food stores, but none are within walking distance of me. I live in the woods--literally--in a development of homes built on at least 3 acres.

                                                                                                                  1. Caroline1 RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 06:10 PM

                                                                                                                    Nothing within 15 minutes walking distance. Plano, TX. Well, unless you want to count a neighbor's for a cup of sugar. Lots of great markets only a short drive away though.

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                                                                                                                      mojoeater RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 06:20 PM

                                                                                                                      Charlottesville, VA. Grocery stores such as Kroger, Giant and now Whole Foods are within walking distance, but only across a very busy road with no crosswalks. The county is in fact trying to discourage all pedestrians due to the traffic.

                                                                                                                      Good news is that Trader Joe's is due to open on this side of the highway and then we could walk or bike!

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                                                                                                                        piglet86 RE: mojoeater Mar 10, 2012 07:03 AM

                                                                                                                        I remember C'ville, and no I wouldn't test its terrible drivers by navigating 29 on foot!

                                                                                                                        Richmond now, in a neighborhood with a 92 "walkscore," where a divey Kroger and lots of little mom-and-pops are within a 15-minute walk from one's (not my) spendy house. A 25-minute walk takes me to Carytown, which boasts a Kroger, Martin's (a Giant subsidiary), and an indie hipster Whole Foodish place called Ellwood Thompson, named for the intersection where it's located. If three supermarkets were not already excessive, a Fresh Market is due to open not even a block away.

                                                                                                                        For exercise, I regularly get my groceries from this trio of shops, whose proximity to each other makes comparison shopping stupid easy. If I want to shop at Whole Foods or Trader Joe's, I have to drive.

                                                                                                                        Plus, a slew of farmers' markets are starting up, and I've just started my seeds.

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                                                                                                                          mahlzeit_yumyum RE: piglet86 Mar 15, 2012 06:30 PM

                                                                                                                          My father lives in Richmond and where he is, people simply don't walk - even if it's within walking distance. So much so, that they don't even bother with sidewalks so it would be dangerous to try and they look at you funny if you are.

                                                                                                                          He lives within what could be walking distance (30 minutes?) to a Kroger's and Martin's, but would NEVER happen. Even kids within walking a few blocks from school or their friends - drive EVERYWHERE.

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                                                                                                                        hungryjoanne RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 06:52 PM

                                                                                                                        Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
                                                                                                                        3 minute walk to a grocery store; 20 minute bike ride to farmers' market (in season)
                                                                                                                        Very lucky/blessed that most of my life is in walking/riding distance!

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                                                                                                                          ErnieD RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 08:29 PM

                                                                                                                          Outermost fringes of the Phoenix metro area here. I can walk to the nearest grocery pretty easily and I have, but it is a highly unpleasant walk. Most of it is on an extremely busy 5 lane road, so you're huffing exhaust fumes, and you also have to pass a fairly pungent sewage wash. I do however walk to the local farm to pick up my CSA share whenever I have the time. It's about 7 miles round trip, so it doesn't quite fit the OP's criteria. But it's a pleasant walk, and I enjoy the exercise and opportunity to listen to an audiobook and/or engage in some quiet personal time.

                                                                                                                          1. babette feasts RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 08:32 PM

                                                                                                                            Yes. 3 blocks. Seattle.

                                                                                                                            1. KarenDW RE: coney with everything Mar 8, 2012 11:06 PM

                                                                                                                              2 blocks to a full service grocery shop. 6 or 7 shops within a 15 minute walk. Add another 10 minutes, and there are at least 12 groceries stores in that radius, including two Whole Foods, and Urban Fare. Vancouver, BC downtown area.

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                                                                                                                                Muchlove RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 12:10 AM

                                                                                                                                Live in Allahabad, a small-ish town in North India (quite an important town, but unarguably small and backwards).

                                                                                                                                1 minute walk from my house is a ration shop (AKA store cupboard goods of various kinds like rice dal, spices, soap, oil, biscuits, shampoo, etc. plus fresh milk, packaged butter, drinks, etc. in a fridge cabinet).

                                                                                                                                Another minute on there is another.

                                                                                                                                2 minutes away there is a very crappy sabzi wala (veg seller) which I try to avoid, though the family is nice.

                                                                                                                                5 minutes in either direction are more reliable sabzi wale and also phal wale (fruit sellers). Still prefer to cycle or take a rickshaw to my fav sabzi mandi (veg market) though, which is about 10 minutes away.

                                                                                                                                4 minutes away is a bakery/snacks/sweets/confections (all western-style, this is not an Indian style sweet shop) which I believe sells mostly soft drinks, cakes, ice creams and biscuits.

                                                                                                                                4 minutes in the other direction is a chai and snack stall which sells fresh paneer and dahi (yoghurt). 2 minutes from this place is a sweet shop with a reasonable range of sweets and ok-ish dahi. 5 minutes cycle from my house though is a GREAT sweet shop with amazing sweets and fabulous dahi.

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                                                                                                                                  YummaYum RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 01:09 AM

                                                                                                                                  Yes, I live in central London. 3 mins to a smaller shop where I can get a bit more than the basics, 5 to 10 to a veg stall seller (though I pass him on the way home from work). It's 15 to 20 minute walk or 5 minute bus to a butcher, an award-winning fish monger and two large supermarkets.

                                                                                                                                  That said, I tend to get most of our food and other stuff delivered using Ocado (from Waitrose) and Farm Direct (a co-op of 'local'-ish farmers, fisherman, cheese makers that have a depot nearby in Islington).

                                                                                                                                  We're quite fortunate food and delivery wise here; I need to remember that next time I pay rent...

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                                                                                                                                    debbypo RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 01:25 AM

                                                                                                                                    About 5 minutes from a mediocre branch of a large regional chain. Every time I go there I resolve not to go again but, it's so darn convenient.

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                                                                                                                                      Chefpaulo RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 02:19 AM

                                                                                                                                      I'm in a secluded Colonial farmhouse in the Skippack Valley about 35 miles outside of Philadelphia. My nearest market is about six miles and requires going up a long hill and down a gradual but even longer one (about 2 miles). I cannot imagine returning with groceries up that hill. For me, this would almost be a day's hike there and back - if I survived busy roads without sidewalks.

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                                                                                                                                        Harters RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 03:40 AM

                                                                                                                                        Yep, 15 minute walk. Place is about 2200 sqM (24,000 sq feet)

                                                                                                                                        Cheshire, United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland

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                                                                                                                                          sunshine842 RE: Harters Mar 9, 2012 11:21 AM

                                                                                                                                          I'm going to get back to Cheshire one of these days - I swear I will. I only had a couple of hours gleaned from a cancelled meeting, but I loved it, and want to come back and explore (and thoroughly exploit the cheese shop that still haunts me).

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                                                                                                                                            Harters RE: sunshine842 Mar 9, 2012 01:16 PM

                                                                                                                                            It's the county of my birth, sunshine, and I've lived there for almost all of my 61 years. So I'm a bit biased, perhaps - but I like it too. By co-incidence, it was only this week that I mentioned, on the What's For Dinner thread, the cheese shop in Chester.

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                                                                                                                                              sunshine842 RE: Harters Mar 10, 2012 09:19 AM

                                                                                                                                              it's been nearly a decade since I was in Chester -- and I stepped into that shop, only to fall head over heels in love -- it smelled wonderfully stinky, like a cheese shop should, but what I loved the most was that they had written the names of the producers (not just the name of the farm, mind, but the names of the *people*) on the tags on every single piece of cheese.

                                                                                                                                              I was staying in a hotel with no fridge, and heading back to the states a few days later, so couldn't buy any....but I've never forgotten it!

                                                                                                                                              (maybe this summer when I'm in Derbyshire....)

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                                                                                                                                          rosepoint RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 03:52 AM

                                                                                                                                          We live in a semi-rural area of Virginia on several acres of land. One to two hours from Wash DC (depending on traffic).

                                                                                                                                          I can walk to my garden, chicken coop, or deep freezer in a minute or two but it's a 5 mile drive to the closest grocery store.

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                                                                                                                                            Hobbert RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 05:35 AM

                                                                                                                                            Aldie, VA- I'm a mile or so from a Harris Teeter. Sometimes I walk to the shopping center but I never buy groceries when I walk since I'm too lazy to haul them back.

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                                                                                                                                              Caroline1 RE: Hobbert Mar 9, 2012 09:17 AM

                                                                                                                                              SCOOOOOOOOOORE...! I'm with you!

                                                                                                                                            2. Karl S RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 05:46 AM

                                                                                                                                              Melrose MA (suburb 7 miles due north of downtown Boston): yes, two non-supersized supermarkets (though I don't like either of them).

                                                                                                                                              When I lived in Cambridge, I loved having a corner grocer (the kind of place that preceded supermarkets). My brother in Brooklyn (Dyker Heights) has the best set-up of all: e.g, the green grocer, the fish monger, the pork store (if you're Italian-American in the NY area, you know what that means), the regular butcher, the pasta & cheese store, the bread bakery, the sweets bakery, et cet. All within walking distance of a few blocks. Paris in Brooklyn, as it were.

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                                                                                                                                                JeremyEG RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 09:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                Yes. 30 seconds from Gristedes and 5 minutes from Whole Foods (NYC).

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                                                                                                                                                  thegforceny RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 10:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                  Yes. Manhattan, New York, NY.

                                                                                                                                                  1. Boudleaux RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 11:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                    I live in Middle Tennessee not too far away from Nashville and I could walk to a grocery store but it wouldn't be easy because there are no sidewalks in my neighborhood or along the very busy street that leads to the grocery store. There's not even really a shoulder, the sides of the street just sort of drops off into a ditch. But everyone drives here. Things are spread out and if you see someone walking to the store, it seems out of place and odd.

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                                                                                                                                                      kevine RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 03:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                      Even though we live in a neighborhood that is not considered all that glamorous, we are 2 blocks away from one of the best small organic markets in the SF Bay Area so consider ourselves very lucky. I can also bike easily to any of Berkeley's outstanding larger markets as well.

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                                                                                                                                                        cosmogrrl RE: kevine Mar 9, 2012 11:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                        Monterey Market? If so, I love that place.

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                                                                                                                                                          katnat RE: cosmogrrl Mar 11, 2012 08:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                          Mee too. Love love love Monterey mkt..except on weekends, in which case you're better off walking (15 min for me) than driving and trying to get into that crappy parking lot.

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                                                                                                                                                            mariacarmen RE: katnat Mar 12, 2012 03:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                            i live in the City but i can drive across the Bay and go to MM, but as you said, weekends are a nightmare there.

                                                                                                                                                      2. KaimukiMan RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 03:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                        Honolulu: I live two and a half blocks from a pretty good grocery store, and 4 blocks beyond that is the largest Safeway in the state. Another local chain grocery is 6 blocks up another street, but I'm not overly fond of it, find the prices to be much higher - but they do have good produce. Used to be a 4th option 6 blocks down another way, but it merged with another chain and now that store is a Longs/CVS drug store. And with all that I berate myself for often getting in the car without thinking.

                                                                                                                                                        1. Bada Bing RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 04:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                          Looking at this thread, I'm convinced that those who can walk somewhere are readier in replying than those who cannot. Unless 80% of posters live in NYC or other urban environments, which might be the case.

                                                                                                                                                          I'm in suburban South Bend, IN, and there are two good supermarkets each about two miles in either direction. I haven't timed it, but I'm sure it would be at least 30-40 minutes walking time each way. I have a bicycle trailer, though, for occasional runs in good weather.

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                                                                                                                                                            Perilagu Khan RE: Bada Bing Mar 10, 2012 07:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                            I'm convinced Hounds are overwhelmingly coastal, urban and financially comfortable if not wealthy. And yes, greater NYC and Bay Area are very heavily represented.

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                                                                                                                                                              Bada Bing RE: Perilagu Khan Mar 10, 2012 06:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                              This thread does suggest that, perhaps, Chowhound posters are in a national minority who live within walking distance of a serious grocery. I say that, because I am quite convinced that most Americans do not live within walking distance of a solid grocer.

                                                                                                                                                              Maybe Hounds locate that way, or are maybe they are created from proximity to quality food browsing...

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                                                                                                                                                                fantasyjoker RE: Perilagu Khan Mar 11, 2012 08:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                Ha, I wish I was financially comfortable. I was just taught to compare prices and quality and to get the most bang for my hard-earned bucks, something I'm trying to teach my teen.

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                                                                                                                                                                  Perilagu Khan RE: fantasyjoker Mar 11, 2012 03:38 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  I wish you much success.

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                                                                                                                                                                  Bada Bing RE: Perilagu Khan Mar 11, 2012 07:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  Apparently so. In which case, this poll is actually instructive, not about people and grocery markets, but about the difference between most Chowhounds and average folks.

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                                                                                                                                                                    Perilagu Khan RE: Bada Bing Mar 11, 2012 07:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                    Yeah. I think the Hounds are a very atypical bunch, in more ways than one.

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                                                                                                                                                                      sunshine842 RE: Perilagu Khan Mar 11, 2012 11:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                      but this thread in particular can't be used as any kind of analysis -- the responses indicate that primarily, people who can NOT walk to a grocery aren't posting all that often.

                                                                                                                                                                      Given the actual distribution of people in the US -- the representation on this board is highly self-selective....and I'm not coastal or affluent by any stretch of the imagination -- and only moderately urban.

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                                                                                                                                                                        Perilagu Khan RE: sunshine842 Mar 12, 2012 07:11 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        Of course this is not scientific, but it, along with all the other posts on this site which reveal certain personal information, are highly suggestive. I'm willing to bet dollars to donuts that my observations about CH demographics are pretty accurate. And the fact thay you and I don't conform to CH demographics hardly disproves them. We are outliers.

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                                                                                                                                                                          Bada Bing RE: Perilagu Khan Mar 12, 2012 07:18 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          I'm sure you're right. It would be interesting to see demographic info on this site's users. Here I am in the Midwest and in a suburban development of mainly conservative political leaning. But I'm a liberal with lots of education and world travel experience. I'm an outlier where I live! If I recall correctly, sunshine842 has also lived abroad--in France, no less.

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                                                                                                                                                                            Perilagu Khan RE: Bada Bing Mar 12, 2012 07:22 AM

                                                                                                                                                                            "But I'm a liberal with lots of education and world travel experience."

                                                                                                                                                                            This also makes you a classic Hound!

                                                                                                                                                                            And I don't know about sunshine and France. She said something about living near six barbecue joints. ;

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                                                                                                                                                                              flourgirl RE: Perilagu Khan Mar 12, 2012 09:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              Well, I'm a coastal Hound, middle class, have "lots of education" and some "world travel experience" - and I'm quite fiscally conservative.

                                                                                                                                                                              I'm not sure I agree that there's any such thing as a classic hound. Food lovers can come from all walks of life.

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                                                                                                                                                                                Perilagu Khan RE: flourgirl Mar 12, 2012 10:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                I'm conservative in all respects. But again, I'm very much an outlier here. And while food lovers do indeed come in all types, I detect a good deal of homogeneity on this particular site. Not that there's anything wrong with that!

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                                                                                                                                                                                  flourgirl RE: Perilagu Khan Mar 12, 2012 10:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                  I admit that I often feel like an "outlier" here myself because I think that the majority of hounds identify themselves as liberal, whether they do so directly, or it is made fairly clear from the comments they make that they have a liberal mindset.

                                                                                                                                                                                  But I have been on CH for years now and know that there are lots of CHers on very tight budgets, lots of of CHers, like me, who are somewhere in the middlle financially, and yes, quite a few people who can afford to buy whatever they want and dine out wherever and whenever they want to as well. I think that's what I really had in mind when I said that hounds come from all walks of life.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    Toni6921 RE: flourgirl Mar 12, 2012 11:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                    I've been retired for a number of years, and I do have to watch my finances. What I do like about CH, is that folks seem to come for all walks of life. I don't eat out as much as I used to, so I live vicariously through those who can afford to. My demographic is a black female, living in a suburb of Washington, D.C. Urban-Suburban would describe where I live.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I guess I never thought about liberal vice conservative, because I think the love of food is the common thread that joins us together. So many food sites are geared to the homecook, and I belong to some. But, sometimes I like to imagine myself outside of my own kitchen and dining some place like Per Se, or The French Laundry, or Europe, or Asia for that matter.

                                                                                                                                                                                    I just really love food, and I am interested in the experiences of others who have been to places that I'll never have the opportunity to visit. What I truly love about food, is that no one person will ever know all there is to know about it. I'm always challenging myself in my own kitchen, which keeps me sharp.

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                                                                                                                                                                                    Bada Bing RE: Perilagu Khan Mar 12, 2012 02:34 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    Actually, I bet the demographics skew a bit differently according to the discussion board. The urban regional ones that I've consulted seem to have lots of affluent diners who eat at restaurants a lot. I spend most of my time in the home cooking board, where there's a pretty varied mix. The cookware board has its cluster groups---the Le Creuset colors people, the cast iron mavens. The Food Media & News people see much more television than I do...

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                                                                                                                                                                                      Perilagu Khan RE: Bada Bing Mar 13, 2012 08:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I bet you're right.

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                                                                                                                                                                      BobB RE: Perilagu Khan Mar 12, 2012 11:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      I guess I fit the stereotype here: urban (Boston), reasonably affluent, and within 15 minutes or less walk of a Whole Foods, a Trader Joe's, two mainstream supermarkets, one Asian supermarket, one kosher supermarket, two large Russian markets, a fish market and two butcher shops (one of which is a small full-service gourmet grocery). Not to mention a fantastic farmers market in season, with meats, fish, breads and cheeses as well as produce.

                                                                                                                                                                      Me eat good!

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                                                                                                                                                                        Jenny Ondioline RE: BobB Mar 12, 2012 03:24 PM

                                                                                                                                                                        Oh, duh, I can't believe I forgot the Russian markets! Yes, those too.

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                                                                                                                                                                      eight_inch_pestle RE: Bada Bing Mar 11, 2012 04:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                      Most shopping can be done with a good quality rack. No trailer required.

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                                                                                                                                                                        fantasyjoker RE: eight_inch_pestle Mar 11, 2012 08:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                                        I use my big black granny cart. I've had it for 4 years, and I replaced the broken wheels with new ones from Lowe's.

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                                                                                                                                                                          Bada Bing RE: eight_inch_pestle Mar 11, 2012 10:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                          Most, yes...

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                                                                                                                                                                            Perilagu Khan RE: eight_inch_pestle Mar 11, 2012 03:39 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            I shop twice a week and there's no way in hell I could carry my groceries home. The car is required.

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                                                                                                                                                                              eight_inch_pestle RE: Perilagu Khan May 8, 2012 01:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              Everyone has their own abilities and interests, of course, but with panniers and a rack you can carry a great deal of groceries, especially if your trip is flat or you can put your bike on a bus or train for any significant grades.

                                                                                                                                                                        2. pinehurst RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 04:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                          Essex County, Massachusetts....I could walk in about 15 minutes, but not safely. There is a dearth of sidewalks along the way and, especially dragging a small mart cart behind me, I'd be taken out ala Frogger.

                                                                                                                                                                          1. Foodapotamus RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 04:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                            I'm in Reno, NV in the midtown/downtown area. I am a10 minute walk to a 24hr Savemart in one direction and 10 mins to the food co-op in the other. Our local co-op used to be practically next door to me, but did not have much to offer. It recently moved and now it has almost the same selection as our Trader Joes! It is crazy expensive for a young person like me though, so I mix between the two. I try to always walk unless it is snowing or I am getting something heavy :)

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                                                                                                                                                                              NVJims RE: Foodapotamus Mar 10, 2012 09:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                                              The new location for the co-op also has virtually no free parking. Living in Sparks, I'm also out of a reasonable walk to the grocery stores due to traffic and distance.

                                                                                                                                                                            2. Will Owen RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 04:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                              Where we lived in Nashville there was a small, full-menu neighborhood grocery that was just a six block walk, and another one about eight blocks away that became a Harris Teeter a year or so before we left. Nashville's first Asian market, which is also a buffet-style restaurant, was a little further, but I frequently walked it (my everyday reasonable-distance radius for walking is a mile, or about twenty minutes). Here in Pasadena there are two good deli-style places within half a mile, one Middle Eastern and the other heavenly Italian, and a large Ralphs (Kroger to most of you) just over a mile, so if I've been slacking off my exercise I'll go there. There's also a Food 4 Less, a sort of downmarket Ralphs (also owned by Kroger) that's just four blocks and change. I have been trying very hard to do more of my few-item runs on foot, and all this makes it a lot easier.

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                                                                                                                                                                                laskiblue RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 09:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                A small/moderate sized city (70,000 or so) in inland Southern California. A Stater Bros. (local grocery chain) is a block away; however, I rarely use it. Some Stater Bros. stores are nice and some are not -- the one nearest me is of the latter category. I occasionally use the SB three miles east of me, but most of my shopping is done 8 miles away at Winco, 10 miles away at Fresh & Easy, and 5 miles away at Grocery Outlet.

                                                                                                                                                                                1. cosmogrrl RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 11:27 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                  I have a small market, Le Beau, with good veggies and a deli (with a meat counter) that's perfect for picking up dinner when you haven't gone shopping for a while. It's two blocks away and mostly flat. There was a Cala about 5 blocks away, but it's turning into a Trader Joe's. Which is fine by me as I hated Cala. There's also a Whole Foods about 15 minutes away.

                                                                                                                                                                                  I usually drive for groceries though, because I tend to stock up for the week, using the local market for fresh veggies etc. My favourite market, Cal-Mart, is too far to walk too.

                                                                                                                                                                                  Any guesses as to where I live? :)

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                                                                                                                                                                                    Georgia Strait RE: cosmogrrl Mar 10, 2012 05:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                    no - with respect, we cannot guess which state you live in ... we live in one of the most expensive cities in North America ... Vancouver BC Canada ... and it is beautiful, there is no other city like this in terms of views and clean air etc --- but we have always (we grew up here) had to drive to a real supermarket. As i stated below, the only people i know in my contact list who can actually and usefully walk to a real market live in So Cal area. Now that's what i think is ironic. (given that many Cdn's turn their noses up at the rest of the north american cities)

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                                                                                                                                                                                      rabaja RE: cosmogrrl Mar 11, 2012 11:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                      I can! San Francisco, in the fabulous Nob Hill neighborhood.
                                                                                                                                                                                      I used to live on Washington, and loved Le Beau -for those in the know! ;)

                                                                                                                                                                                      Good for you for getting a TJ's in that awful, awful old Cala.

                                                                                                                                                                                      I would occasionally walk to Laurel Village to hit Bryan's, it is quite the haul.

                                                                                                                                                                                      Btw, do you ever get Le Beau's house roasted turkey? They do it on the spit in the window. Makes great sandwiches.

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                                                                                                                                                                                        cosmogrrl RE: rabaja Mar 12, 2012 08:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                        DING! We have a winner!

                                                                                                                                                                                        I have their sandwiches about once a week, I do love their turkey! Sad that they stopped carrying liverwurst though.

                                                                                                                                                                                    2. greygarious RE: coney with everything Mar 9, 2012 11:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                      Billerica, MA, a suburb 20 miles from Boston. There are 5 Market Baskets in the area, but the closest ones are nearly 3 miles away. It's about 10-12 miles for upscale supermarkets.

                                                                                                                                                                                      1. eight_inch_pestle RE: coney with everything Mar 10, 2012 12:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                        Have one high-end grocer (Metropolitan Market), a Safeway, a butcher/seafood shop, a couple cafés/bakeries, and TJ's within walking distance. The TJ's is pushing 20 minutes each way, though.

                                                                                                                                                                                        Can't really imagine living without a store within walking distance. Did it for about a year in Carrboro, NC, but even then the Harris Teeter, an out-of-this-world fishmonger, the farmers' market, and the crunchy co-op were a very pretty and flat five-minute bike ride. I could happily do that again, especially since I worked from home at the time and that bike ride was my daily foray into the gorgeous Carolina sun.

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                                                                                                                                                                                          mse924 RE: coney with everything Mar 10, 2012 05:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                          Milwaukee, WI here.

                                                                                                                                                                                          15 minute walk to a moderate-sized Whole Foods.

                                                                                                                                                                                          5 minute walk to either a family run Italian grocery or an Italian Bakery. 5 minutes in the other direction is a old Polish grocery store that has a wonderful deli/sandwich selection (and an Atari to play while you're waiting for your sandwich!!).

                                                                                                                                                                                          15-20 minute walk gets me to a Pick N Save, a Metro Market (the Milwaukee version of Mariano's in Chicago) and a nice farmer's market in the summer.

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                                                                                                                                                                                            eight_inch_pestle RE: mse924 Mar 10, 2012 05:37 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                            More proof Milwaukee is one of the most underrated cities in the country.

                                                                                                                                                                                          2. GraceW RE: coney with everything Mar 10, 2012 09:09 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                            I can walk to 2 different grocery stores--including Jewel and Whole Foods. I could also walk to a Sam's, a Walmart, and a Target--well and a Meijer--but I would have to cross a road that is very hard to cross... but actually all 5 of those stores would still be a 10-15 minute walk.

                                                                                                                                                                                            Living so close, I actually tend to buy fresh produce daily instead of shopping once a week.. but usually I stop in the car on the way home from work.

                                                                                                                                                                                            1. juliejulez RE: coney with everything Mar 10, 2012 01:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                              I live in Clovis CA, which is next to Fresno. It's very very urban sprawl-y suburban. But, thankfully, I live a 5 min walk from a large SaveMart supermarket. It's nice for when I need to pick up a few things for dinner but their prices are usually too high for bulk shopping. There's a FoodMaxx (the kind of warehouse grocery store where you bag your own groceries, which I enjoy doing because I'm weird) about a 5 minute drive away so that's where we end up usually for the larger shopping trips. But, in terms of specialty stores, none within walking distance. There's a meat market about a 15 minute drive away, and both Trader Joe's and Whole Foods about a 20-25 minute drive. The only plus about living out here is there's tons of roadside fruit/veggie stands within a close driving distance to get whatever happens to be in season from Spring-Fall. But, it certainly has been a change from my old Lincoln Square and Lincoln Park neighborhoods in Chicago where you could get just about anything within a 5-10 minute walk. I'm moving in a little over 2 months to a suburb of Denver, and I'm sort of dreading it. The current closest grocery store is about a 20 minute drive, but everyone's allll excited because they're building a new Wal-Mart closer by! Yippee :-/. The things we do for love.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                Georgia Strait RE: coney with everything Mar 10, 2012 05:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                No we cannot walk conveniently to a supermarket and I know only two people who can (they live in So Cal ironically) ... and i hope there is a realtor reading this thread. The value of a home (SFD, Condo, etc) increases if one can walk conveniently to a decent supermarket (not just a corner store)
                                                                                                                                                                                                Great question OP (coney with everything) from a person drowning in suburbia out near the Pacific Ocean.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                  alwayshungrygal RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 07:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                  Yes. I live in the Bay Area, in a suburb of a suburb, in a large townhouse complex. I am on one end, and Safeway is on the other end. I walk there sometimes when I need just a few things and the weather is amenable to a stroll but I usually drive on Saturday to do my full weekly list. One time I started walking home, was halfway there and then remembered I had driven! Having Safeway so close definitely makes my life easy, especially when I am in the middle of a huge cooking/baking effort and realize I need something IMMEDIATELY.

                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. CindyJ RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 07:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm in the western suburbs of Philadelphia, but actually closer to Wilmington, DE than I am to Philly. I can walk to a convenience store that's about 1.5 miles away, and to a dairy farm that sells its own milk, which is about a 7-minute walk. I can walk two miles to a farm market/bakery. But for the meat/fruit/veggie selection, I've got to get into my car and drive about 3 miles.

                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. Becca Porter RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 08:16 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                      I am a 20 minute drive (on 2 highways and 1 interstate) from the nearest grocery store. It is a small one. This is one of the drawbacks of living in the country in NE Louisiana.

                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. flourgirl RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 08:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                        I live in the 'burbs in Jersey. The closest grocery store is probably about 5 miles from me. I've never walked there, but I'm considering the purchase of a bicycle with baskets because I could easily bike there.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                          rasputina RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 08:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                          yep, I can and I live in a small town.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                            waking1 RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 08:47 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                            I live outside of Philadelphia in a planned community (Chesterbrook). The grocery store here closed a couple of years ago but I still can walk to Trader Joe's in about 20 minutes. Do it often. The walking does limit what I buy but I'm not so sure that is a bad thing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                              fantasyjoker RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 08:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                              Where I live at in Houston, I can walk to my HEB in 15-30 minutes. There's also a Walmart Supercenter across the street from it. Even further down the street, I have two Randall's, a Whole Foods, and a Kroger. Up from me is a Super Target., and around the corner and up the street is another Kroger. All of this is within a 5-10 minute drive. I love where I live. Not to mention all of the specialty food stores, like Adams (halal), Phoenicia (mediterranean), and tons of others offering various international and ethnic foods. Almost as good as living in NYC.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                amazinc RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 08:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                I live on the far side of In-Back-of-Beyond, Texas. I'm 11 miles each way from the nearest "super market" ( our town is less than 25K pop.) It's about 75 miles to the nearest Whole Foods and about
                                                                                                                                                                                                                60 miles to the nearest Costco. However, what I get in trade is...absolute quiet; black skies for star gazing and a home where the deer and the antelope play. It's a good trade...any day!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                  flourgirl RE: amazinc Mar 11, 2012 08:57 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  It sounds like a good trade to me too.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Perilagu Khan RE: amazinc Mar 11, 2012 03:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I can dig it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. rabaja RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 11:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    San Anselmo, CA. Yes, we can walk to a recently re-located/much improved on Good Earth grocery in nearby Fairfax. It's probably a ten minute walk each way, through our lovely new neighborhood.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                    It's a little bit of a hippy mart, with very good, but somewhat pricey produce and a limited, but sustainable, meat and fish counter.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. corneygirl RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 11:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I have 3, live in a smallish city in Iowa.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                        UTgal RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 03:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Heber City, UT here. I could walk to the nearest store but it would probably take me 20 minutes.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                          sunshine842 RE: UTgal Mar 11, 2012 03:53 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          but probably a pretty walk than the majority of the rest of us! (rode the narrow-gauge railway years ago -- what a fun day!)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                            UTgal RE: sunshine842 Mar 23, 2012 09:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Cool! That train is still running. If you ever come back this way we should get together.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. Uncle Bob RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 05:29 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          No! A good 30 minute drive to a full service store ~~ Wouldn't have it any other way.........

                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. goodhealthgourmet RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 06:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            when i lived in NYC, San Diego and LA, i could always walk to a major supermarket. unfortunately right now i'm stuck in the Jersey 'burbs, and the closest store is a good 2 miles away, down a verrry steep hill for most of the distance.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Caroline1 RE: goodhealthgourmet Mar 12, 2012 02:46 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Ouch! Walking DOWNhill to the store shouldn't be much of a problem. Walking back with groceries? Can you say "Delivery?"

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              And how in the world did you get from California to the Jersey 'burbs? Oh, my!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                goodhealthgourmet RE: Caroline1 Mar 12, 2012 06:17 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                a couple of family crises precipitated the move. believe me, coming back here wasn't in my plans!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                and yes, the downhill isn't a problem so much as the uphill with all the bags :) i drive.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Caroline1 RE: goodhealthgourmet Mar 12, 2012 10:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Sorry about the family crises! Life keeps interrupting our lives, no matter how well we plan. As for groceries, I keep pulling hard for Walmart (or any other store!) to start their shop-on-line and pick up OR deliver service in my area. Just think of all of the impulse buying I could curb!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. iL Divo RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 07:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I can. I have.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              there are 3.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1 is 1.2 miles one way.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1 is 2.4 miles 1 way.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              the last is 5.3 miles 1 way.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I know this because after walking I drove and clocked it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                gothamette RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 07:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Manhattan, live a short walk from the market on Bway between 76 and 77th (forget name), Pioneer on Columbus, Fairway, and TJ's is 15 minutes away, if I'm walking slow. Oh yeah, there's also Zabars, but I rarely go there. Too crowded and frankly, I can get everything else cheaper at the aforementioned vendors.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Let me take this opportunity to plug shamelessly two places that are a bit out of my way, but I go to them once a week for their incredible prices: Western Beef on 62nd and West End Avenue, and Stiles, on 52nd between 8th and 9th.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                And Citarella.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  rHairing RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 07:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Oakton, VA. I can walk to my Giant and everything in the strip mall, my post office, my library..getting there in one piece is another thing.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    TrussedUp RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 08:12 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    10 minutes to a small trader traders joe's or and a whole foods, just around the corner from a small immigrant grocery store. Between the two chains, I'm pretty set, but there are certain things I need to get on the metro for. TJs is limited and I can't afford to buy all the staples at whole foods! I'm in DC

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. mattstolz RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 08:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      CAN i walk there?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Would I be able to carry everything home from my normal trip?
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Itd be a heck of a balancing act.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Toni6921 RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 08:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I love a block and a half from an Aldi's, and a two minute drive from an International grocery store where I can get Asian, Caribbean, Latin ingredients, meats, fish, seafood, and produce.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. Justpaula RE: coney with everything Mar 11, 2012 09:03 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Oh, yes. I live in the western part of Queens, NY where the the ratio of residents to drivers is quite large, so there is no shortage of grocery stores. Now, the quality of some of them leaves a little to be desired, I am sure, but there are at least 13 full-service supermarkets within 1.0 mile (definitely walkable) of my home. I generally go to Pathmark...and while I can, I definitely do not walk. Often, though, I will head out in the car and drive a little over three miles to a shopping center that has an ALDI and Costco - that is a fun combo.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            njmarshall55 RE: Justpaula Mar 12, 2012 02:15 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Didn't know Foodtown was stil around. Used to work in one in Fair Lawn, NJ that had a whopping FIVE aisles!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Maximilien RE: coney with everything Mar 12, 2012 04:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Border Plateau/Mile-end in Montreal

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes, walking distance to couple of bakeries, supermarkets (big and small), portugese/greek shops, fishmongers, butchers;

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            5-10 minutes bus/bike to Jean-Talon Market (with about everything); 10-15 minutes bus/bike to asian stores,

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            So, I don't need a car.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              thistle5 RE: coney with everything Mar 12, 2012 12:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm .2 miles from a Safeway, .8 from a Bestway, 1.6 from Aldi's, but these are not pleasant walks, because of lack of sidewalks & traffic. I do almost all of my shopping at a military commissary, which is 1.3 miles away (I think this is as the crow flies, it's more like a 5 mile drive), & I drive, because I couldn't carry my groceries. This is a VA suburb, outside of DC...I also have at least 20 small restaurants within 1 mile-Mexican, Thai, Chinese, Peruvian chicken,Korean, African, BBQ, fast food, wings...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. steve h. RE: coney with everything Mar 12, 2012 12:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Stamford, Connecticut

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. susans RE: coney with everything Mar 12, 2012 01:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Long Beach, CA. I can walk to a Pavilions in 5 mins, Albertson's, Stater Bros, and Fresh and Easy are 5 minutes further. Going in another direction, Ralphs takes 15 mins. Bristol Farms would probably take about 20 and to get there, I would pass a Target that has everything but fresh meat.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    mariacarmen RE: susans Mar 12, 2012 03:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I used to live in L.B. - what part are you in?

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Target up here in SF has fresh meat....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  2. njmarshall55 RE: coney with everything Mar 12, 2012 02:13 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I have enough trouble walking from the bedroom to the bathroom, but even if that wasn't an issue, it's still no. Closest one is about 4 miles away.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      laliz RE: coney with everything Mar 12, 2012 02:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I live about 30 miles east of Los Angeles. I can walk to an excellent Italian market or a local "corner store" within 5 minutes, but everything else is further away.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      That 5 minute walk would also include a post office, the library, and at least 6 local, non-fast food eateries.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. mariacarmen RE: coney with everything Mar 12, 2012 03:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Mission District, San Francisco. within 5 blocks in either direction of me, I can walk to at least 20 (no lie!) grocery stores that variously carry fruits/veggies and lots of latino/asian products. some of them meat as well. besides the butcher shops/fish mongers. and a wonderful italian deli. and a middle eastern food shop. 25 minute walk would take me to a Safeway, but I usually drive if I'm going there. Ditto with Trader Joe's, but that's not a nice walk (but it's only a 5 minute drive for both.) and a farmers's market in every neighborhood, practically - none of them more than 7 miles away, and one across the street from my apartment. i am lucky as hell.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          steve h. RE: mariacarmen Mar 12, 2012 04:22 PM


                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        2. Midlife RE: coney with everything Mar 12, 2012 05:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Suburban Orange County, CA. Two chain markets in opposite directions but probably 3 miles or so to each. So........ YES..... but....... NO. Walk....... in the OC.... of course not!!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. Scrofula RE: coney with everything Mar 12, 2012 08:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Within a few blocks, I've got a Safeway, a Trader Joe's, a couple of produce shops, a seafood & poultry shop, a weekly farmer's market, an Indian grocery, and several other small groceries. Seattle is a nice town for pedestrians. Oh, and a QFC, though it's a bit farther to walk.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              ellabee RE: coney with everything Mar 13, 2012 12:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              This question really makes sense only to urban/dense suburban residents. So I'll speak for rural types: We'd have to walk four miles to get to any store -- but the first one we'd get to in either direction would be a supermarket with :: fresh meats, fruit/vegetables, and bread other than Wonder-type ::

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                christy319 RE: coney with everything Mar 13, 2012 02:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Yes, 4. In a Seattle neighborhood. One very good small but full service grocery, one large natural food coop, one Safeway (where I never go) and one middle of the road grocery that's part of a local chain. I can also walk to a farmer's market and a produce stand.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I actually wouldn't consider living anywhere I couldn't walk to a good grocery (NOT a low quality chain like Safeway). We end up at the store most days, and we have to walk the dog twice a day anyway, so it's a lot easier if we cam walk to a good quality store that has a nice area outside to wait with the dog while the other person shops.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. pdxgastro RE: coney with everything Mar 13, 2012 08:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I used to have 2 in walking distance but then a 3rd one, opened up. So I'm pretty lucky, I guess.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    tastesgoodwhatisit RE: coney with everything Mar 13, 2012 08:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I live about a 15 minute walk from a real but rather expensive grocery store, and a ten minute bus ride from a more mainstream one. I only go to the nearby store if I need to pickup something on the way home.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I also have a traditional morning market about a 15 minute walk away, where we shop much more often, for fresh meat and seafood, fruits and vegetables. No dairy or bread, though.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    There are also five 7-11s in a 15 minute walking radius, and about six other convenience stores.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm in Taipei, Taiwan.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Caroline1 RE: tastesgoodwhatisit Mar 14, 2012 05:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Somehow the number of 7-Elevens in your neighborhood grieves me. The world is fast becoming HOMOGENIZED! <sigh> "Vive la difference" is almost dead.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Tripeler RE: Caroline1 Mar 14, 2012 02:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I am certain that a 7-Eleven in Taipei is entirely different from one in the U.S. However, within Taiwan I am sure they are all the same.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          mariacarmen RE: Tripeler Mar 14, 2012 02:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          still. I agree with Caroline1.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            tastesgoodwhatisit RE: Tripeler Mar 14, 2012 07:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I think 7-11 is owned by a Japanese company now...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            They're much cooler here. You can buy the usual snacks, magazines, cigarettes and and cold drinks. The food is much better - they have quite good onigiri, with really clever wrapping, and some decent salads, plus filled steamed buns and crock pots full of tea eggs, bubbling on the counter. You can also buy beer, wine and liquor, including single malt scotch. They will also microwave your popcorn, heat your food, and provide hot water for instant drinks and cereals and the extensive selection of instant noodle bowls. They also sell a decent, reasonably affordable cup of coffee (half the price of Starbucks).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            In addition to that, they have a bank machine that handles international cards, a photocopy/fax/printer that accepts USB cards and can hook up to your lap-top for printing. You can print out and pay for train tickets you reserved on line, pay all your utility bills and charge your transit card, buy pay as you go phone cards for all the major providers, buy the special garbage bags you need for city pick up and order catering at the holidays. You can also arrange to have stuff you order on line delivered to the 7-11, and pick it up from there.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            And my personal favourite - they even sell boiler-plate fill in the blank, perfectly legal apartment leases.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            They are also open 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, including Chinese New Year and typhoon days when everything else is closed. The 7-11 refurbishment is pretty amazing too - every so often (maybe every 10 or 15 years or so?), they'll strip one of the stores down to concrete and dirt, and totally rebuild it with new equipment, over about a week.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Oh, and keep in mind that within a 15 minute walk of my apartment I've also got about eight cell phone shops, three bakeries, two dumpling stores, half a dozen fast food places, five or six drug stores, and probably a couple dozen other restaurants and food stands, a subway station and a about 20 bus routes. High population density does have some advantages!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              mariacarmen RE: tastesgoodwhatisit Mar 14, 2012 09:00 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              dang - now i'm jealous! why are ours so crappy!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Caroline1 RE: tastesgoodwhatisit Mar 14, 2012 09:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Well, there you go! In Taiwan, convenience stores offer great convenience instead of just stale Twinkies and bitter coffee. And I will gladly relieve you of at least one of your nearby dumpling shops. I doubt that there are many on these boards, if any, who can outdo you on great and comfortable living. Take joy in it and bask!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                But.... I still greattly regret the homogenization of the world. My prediction is that "fusion cooking" will turn the diet of the entire planet into some sort of Spartan Soup within a century. Fortunately, I will escape that. But it is sad. The diversity was so much fun!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  janetofreno RE: tastesgoodwhatisit Mar 15, 2012 09:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  My son recently returned from two years living in Japan, and he says that the 7-11s in the Tokyo area were party central. (His apartment was in a residential area that might be considered the "burbs" here - although there were many nearby businesses - but he worked in central Tokyo). Anyway, the parking lot of the 7-11 a block or so from his apartment was often inhabited by folks drinking and socializing. These were not homeless people but just folks getting together as you might in a neighborhood bar in this country. When they got off the train in the evening they would stop at 7-11, buy beer (and maybe something to eat), and sit or stand around talking with friends and neighbors who would do the exact same thing. If they ran out of beer they would just go inside and buy more. Apparently the store management was perfectly happy with their presence. He told me that he witnessed similar scenes throughout Japan. And yes, he said that the 7-11s there were "way cooler" than in the US :-)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Caroline1 RE: janetofreno Mar 15, 2012 09:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Can you imagine a Japanese family naively emigrating to the U.S. and joyfully buying or renting a place near a 7-Eleven for the social life it means to them... and then the JARRRRING reality of American 7-Elevens? I could write a comedy about that!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Tripeler RE: tastesgoodwhatisit Mar 16, 2012 01:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    from the description that tastesgoodwhatisit offers, it seems that the 7-Eleven stores in Taiwan are very much like the ones in Japan, right down to the elaborately wrapped onigiri riceballs.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. tcamp RE: coney with everything Mar 14, 2012 07:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yes, plenty of options. Whole Foods and Safeway are less than 10 minutes by foot, Balduccis is about the same. Giant and TJs are about 20 minutes away. A Harris Teeter is going in about 15 minutes away. All nice walking on sidewalks, with crosswalks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              That said, I often shop by car on my way home from work or on the weekend, sometimes at Fresh World asian grocery, sometimes at Shoppers Food Warehouse or MacGruders.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Alexandria, Virginia.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. Tripeler RE: coney with everything Mar 14, 2012 02:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I live in central Tokyo and there are two small supermarkets that I shop at regularly. One is a 5-minute walk away and the other is a 10-minute walk away in the same direction.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. Jetgirly RE: coney with everything Mar 14, 2012 07:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm in the suburbs of Calgary, Canada. There are no apartment buildings in my neighborhood, though some condo and house owners rent out their units.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm 500 meters from a health food store where I can buy organic, expensive versions of the products mentioned above, and most other groceries. It's a flat, easy walk on a sidewalk.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I'm one kilometer from two major supermarkets. I can walk there on designed pedestrian paths that are not beside the main roads. The walk back does have a significant uphill section and it is not safe at night due to wildlife (the path is unlit).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I typically piggyback my grocery shopping with other errands that require a car, but when the snow isn't knee-deep (or deeper!) I can and do walk to the grocery stores.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Bada Bing RE: Jetgirly Mar 14, 2012 07:35 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Wildlife safety? Like you'll become "chow"? Wow. Bears?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Jetgirly RE: Bada Bing Mar 14, 2012 08:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      The path goes through a wooded area with a few resident coyote families. They're pretty habituated to suburban life and aren't especially afraid of people. I don't like encountering them during the day, much less in total darkness.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          sunshine842 RE: Jetgirly Mar 15, 2012 05:27 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          that's pretty wild to think about, for those of us who've never even contemplated such a thing.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I've seen plenty of coyotes, but always at a distance, out in the wild, and very keen to keep to themselves.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            hotoynoodle RE: sunshine842 Mar 15, 2012 07:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            previously i lived in salem, ma, which is far from rural, and there were many times, at night, that i saw coyotes trotting around. they did not run from my dog and me, but kept their distance. (dog was extra big, lol.)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            a super hungry one might snatch a kitty, but attack a person? in all of north america, (u.s. AND canada) there are a handful of a coyote attacks on humans. each year, in canada alone, there are over 500,000 dog bites. the fatal coyote attack on canadian folksinger taylor mitchell is the first and only ever recorded. tragic, but freakish in its rarity.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              sunshine842 RE: hotoynoodle Mar 15, 2012 01:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I know (and knew before your post) that they don't typically attack humans....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              ....but avoiding a particular area because of wildlife is something that 99+% of us probably never think about (sadly, I'm sure there is a far greater number of us who avoid particular areas after dark because of dangerous wildlife of the two-legged variety...)

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                flourgirl RE: sunshine842 Mar 15, 2012 01:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I live in NJ - I've had coyotes in my backyard twice that I have seen and no I wouldn't want to cross paths with one, especially in the dark.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                NJ also has a huge bear population and there are many parts of the state where people regularly have to think about possible bear encounters.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  viperlush RE: flourgirl Mar 20, 2012 12:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Coyotes? Bears? I'm more scared of those freakin deer herds. Have you heard those weird sounds that they make? The huffing and growling. And the way that they can creep up and surround you or form walls blocking your path? At least the bears don't work in teams and the coyotes are small.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  But to go back on topic, personal safety is a good reason not to walk somewhere. In Baltimore I never walked (or drove) to the closest grocery store (approx 15 min walk) because the neighborhood that it was in left a lot to be desired (hookers, armed guards, etc). In Va the closest grocery store was a 5 min walk, but busy roads made it difficult. And in NJ a walk to the general store (approx 2 miles) was either through the woods (dealing with wildlife or hunters) or along a shoulderless/sidewalk less curvy road.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. susancinsf RE: coney with everything Mar 15, 2012 11:01 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      In Merced, California, in the Great Central Valley, it is about 1.3 or 1.4 miles to the nearest grocery store. Since I walk slowly, that is outside the ten to 15 minute range. Easy bike, ride, however, (though I usually drive) and I am only 3 blocks from a great farm stand for fruits and vegetables (grown right there next to the stand).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      When I lived in San Francisco I was a 15 minute or less walk from at least two grocery stores, including Safeway, a butcher, two or three produce stands, and a number of restaurants, including some of my favorite places to dine out. At least one of those places had a fabulous wine list, so I truly appreciated being able to walk! :-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Here, the nearest restaurant is in the same complex as the grocery store, and the nearest good restaurant is about two miles away. Walking to the grocery store or to go out to eat is one of the few aspects of urban life that I truly miss.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Val RE: coney with everything Mar 15, 2012 01:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yes, I can & do walk to Super-Walmart on MY side of US 41 which is a 6-lane very very busy highway; and I can take my life in my hands and go across the dangerous 6-lane highway to either Publix or Trader Joe's.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. Ruth Lafler RE: coney with everything Mar 16, 2012 10:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Yes. I live just off the main street of a medium-sized town and there's a markethall with an organic grocery/butcher/bakery/cheese shop on the corner, and a very nice supermarket about four blocks away.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            marcreichman RE: coney with everything Mar 16, 2012 02:21 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Arlington, MA. One 5 minutes (I can see it from my house windows) and another few in 10-15m walk range.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              klynne RE: coney with everything Mar 16, 2012 02:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yes. Sunset neighborhood, San Francisco.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                mchutch RE: coney with everything Mar 16, 2012 04:54 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                I live in the Wallingford/Fremont area of Seattle. I can walk to 2 grocery stores within 10 to 15 minutes at a leisurely pace, a QFC in Wallingford or the PCC in Fremont. If I am buying more that fits in tote bag I just bring my rolling grocery tote cart that I brought back from Japan. Being in Seattle, we have a very convenient grocery delivery service from Amazon Fresh which is great as well.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                1. TheHuntress RE: coney with everything Mar 16, 2012 09:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I live within 5 minutes walking distance of 2 supermarkets. I live in Australia, so this is highly unusual. I don't know that many people who are as fortunate as I am. I'm also in walking distance of a bakery or 3, excellent coffee shops, a chinese supermarkets and a 2 minute drive to 2 seperate specialty butchers. I'm not moving house for anything!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    SAHCook RE: coney with everything Mar 16, 2012 10:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'm near Boise, Idaho. My neighborhood is across the street from an Albertson's, and there's another Albertson's 2 miles away. Anything else is driving distance. Several area farmers markets in the summer, but none close enough to walk.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I'd rather not admit it, but even the grocery several minute's walk is always a drive for me ... with four kids, only two could keep up in a timely manner. The 3rd is *this close* to being able to ride a bike, and the 4th can't ride and won't stay in a stroller (he's a big boy, you know). Only a couple more years ...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. MsDiPesto RE: coney with everything Mar 19, 2012 05:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Northern VA:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I can walk next door to Trader Joe's (about 5 min to get there), or cross the highway (carefully) to go to a Whole Foods.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      1. Kajikit RE: coney with everything Mar 19, 2012 06:10 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I live in Fort Lauderdale. Our apartment is exactly one mile from two major grocery stores (they're opposite each other), and there's a farmer's market across the street from them. Another one just opened up in the same area. If you want to get fancier, there's a small specialty butcher's shop a mile from the apartment in the opposite direction. One mile is my maximum 'easy' walking distance because I've got to walk back again with the shopping, so yes, I can walk to the grocery store.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        1. Emme RE: coney with everything Mar 19, 2012 07:18 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          it's so important to me to be able to walk places... i hate the thought of having to get in my car, so i'm pretty lucky...
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          3 supermarkets
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          3 grocers/small markets
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          2 wine shops
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1 liquor store with a nice imported foods section and deli
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1 cheese shop
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          countless restaurants and bakeries
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          3 or 4 chocolatiers
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1 farmers' market

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          only things i can't walk to are trader joe's and restaurant depot. probably all for the better in the latter. i wouldn't carry 100 pounds of flour or sugar anyways :)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          i do have to remember when i walk to the supermarket though that i also have to walk home... i always laugh when they ask if i want help out... "sure i'm only parked 4 blocks away..."

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            CanadaGirl RE: coney with everything Mar 19, 2012 07:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I live in a suburb of Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada. I have two grocery stores about a 15 minute walk away and another about 20 minutes. Being able to walk to stores, restaurants and shops was a requirement when we purchased our home.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Within that distance I also have 2 liquor stores (we're quite regulated), 1 wine shop, a few bakeries, and a middle eastern market with little produce but a halal butcher and lots of dry goods.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. janetofreno RE: coney with everything Mar 19, 2012 10:46 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I live in what could only be described as suburban Las Vegas (yes, such a place exists:-) and there is one shopping center about a half-mile from my house. It contains a large supermarket, several fast food restaurants (which I have never patronized), a Chinese take-out place, small pizza place, dry cleaners, etc. I confess I have never walked there, largely because I do my shopping on the way home from work. However, I have walked to the park which is right across the street from the shopping area many times, so I know its easily doable.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              My goal for retirement is to live somewhere where I can walk to most needed businesses. Actually, I find cities better suited for this than rural or suburban areas, so I'm pretty sure I will retire to at least a mid-sized city (and live downtown).....

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. RealMenJulienne RE: coney with everything Mar 21, 2012 12:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Yes. I live in Beijing and the closest outdoor vegetable market is 5 minutes from my building. For meats and other staples the closest good source is Super Wal Mart which is about a 20 minute walk.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Super Wal Mart in China is NOTHING like the American version. The food section is huge and it's kind of sectioned into kiosks like a traditional Chinese market. I don't know if the kiosk vendors are paid on commission but they really get into it, with the seafood, dairy, bread, and meat sections all trying to outyell each other. Live fish, frogs, and turtles in tanks that you net yourself and bring to the counter, and whole pig carcasses swinging around on chains. They've really adapted to the China market.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  mamachef RE: RealMenJulienne Mar 21, 2012 12:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Awesome. I would love to see that.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    sunshine842 RE: mamachef Mar 21, 2012 01:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Me, too -- I love exploring food shopping when I travel.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Rather interesting that they're adapting well in China, given their rather complete failure to do so in Germany.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      RealMenJulienne RE: sunshine842 Mar 21, 2012 02:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Well one could argue that they have returned to their spiritual homeland, like salmon going upstream to spawn.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      China: the only country in the world where shopping at Wal Mart is supporting local businesses.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        mamachef RE: RealMenJulienne Mar 21, 2012 02:30 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        LOL. It's a beautiful thing. Wish it would catch on.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        mamachef RE: sunshine842 Mar 21, 2012 02:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Isn't it the best part? I've traveled, though not as much as some folks here, but yes. The market and food scene (and honestly I'm more interested in the markets, and the folks behind the counter) are the best part of travel to me, especially if I'm cooking. Even in These Here Yewnited States, it's fascinating to me: not only the difference in the processed products, but in the regular foodstuffs. Duke's mayo, anybody? Not here in California!! (Which is why I had a friend send me a whole case, groundfreight.) From the open markets to the little country store complete with cracker barrel and old men spitting snuff from the porch, I love it all.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          sunshine842 RE: mamachef Mar 21, 2012 12:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          When things return a little closer to something resembling normal, you should come to Paris -- your head would asplode in the markets here!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            mamachef RE: sunshine842 Mar 21, 2012 03:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            You're a doll, Sunshine842. I have done so much, SO much reading on the markets there. Even the books, illustrated or no, make me haid asplode. : )

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            LindaWhit RE: mamachef Mar 26, 2012 10:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I love going to grocery stores in other parts of the U.S.(or other countries).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              mamachef RE: LindaWhit Apr 16, 2012 12:14 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              "other parts of the U.S" - yes, Yes, YES!! I have had so much fun exploring, especially in the Southland. I was visiting Alabama with my ex-husband, and our hostess was giving a grill party. (I learned not to call it BBQ down there unless it involved a pit and smoke.) Anyhoo, she'd run out of hot dogs, and asked if one of us could run out since she was involved w/ party prep. I volunteered, and she directed me, and I left. This was a very rural area, and the store she sent me to was one of those authentic, old-men-on-the-porch cracker barrel kinda places I love. However:
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm a California girl, and my uniform at the time was short! cutoffs with a halter top. (This was some years ago, for sure.) I didn't think anything of it, and my hostess hadn't said anything, so I got out of the car and......
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              TOTAL silence on that porch; 5 pairs of eyes staring at me accusingly. Although I suppose "stare" is the wrong word, because a stare is a fixed gaze. Okay, they looked at me accusingly. Head. to. toe.in the most embarrassing and obvious of ways. So, fine: The Whore of Babylon shops here!!
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Oh, and those hot dogs? I couldn't tell you the brand, but they were BRIGHT red. I'm talkin' cerise here. And they were about maybe 3-4 inches long? Little teeeny tiny things, they were. Wasn't suprised to see red dye on the label, but it was what my hostess wanted, and I bought them and got the hell outta dodge.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    2. eastofnevada RE: coney with everything Mar 21, 2012 05:55 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      I can see a supermarket from my window. Physically, yes, I can walk there, it's about a half mile maybe a bit more. But I don't. There are no sidewalks, and the road is flanked with a big drug store distribution center with huge trucks constantly going back and forth. I feel absolutely ridiculous driving there when I need just few items. I'm seriously considering a bike instead, I'll have to check for a bike rack next time I'm there.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        PenskeFan RE: coney with everything Mar 21, 2012 06:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Depends on what you mean by can and what qualifies as an actual grocery store. There is a grocery store 15 miles from my house. I can walk there, but would be be able to carry home too much and the frozen food would not be in great shape by the time I got back..

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          carolinadawg RE: PenskeFan Mar 26, 2012 06:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          From the OP:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          "My definition of "grocery store" requires that they sell fresh meats, fruit/vegetables, and bread other than Wonder-type. No 7-11 type convenience stores. Walking distance? If you can walk there in 10-15 minutes, that qualifies."

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          cantbeatgoodfood RE: coney with everything Mar 22, 2012 06:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          10 minutes to walk to pathmark,shoprite,stop & shop,20-25 minutes for whole foods,15-20 to many butcher shops...

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. gingershelley RE: coney with everything Mar 23, 2012 11:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I live in a small neighborhood called Top Hat in South West Seattle, WA...It's a 17 minute walk South to a decent supermarket; a well-stocked Albertson's. A 12 minute walk West in another direction takes me to the town of White Center, where there is a meh Albertson's, but lot's of small asian grocer's, Halal Butcher, ton's of ethnic eateries, a Great Asian supermarket, a liquor store, a Mexican butcher, and several taqueria's and panadaria's.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            When it snows, I can still have it all!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I can drive to a better grocery store in 7 minutes, a small local green grocer in the same (seasonal), and 10 minutes drive to a TJ's.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              westaust RE: coney with everything Mar 23, 2012 11:54 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I'm in Montreal, and live about a 10 mins walk to 2 large supermarkets(one more traditional and one discount type), liquor store, pharmacy and a farmers market!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                kyoules RE: coney with everything Mar 23, 2012 12:01 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Like the OP, I live in Detroit MI suburb and am walking distance from what I would consider to be a full line, albeit very small, store - Westborn Market. Now I'm wondering if the small Westborn chain is the store coney with everything was referring to?

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  coney with everything RE: kyoules Mar 26, 2012 05:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Kyoules, my reference is to Hiller's on 12 Mile, which if you've ever been there you'll know is one of the "quirkier" grocery stores around! Nevertheless, it has been a godsend and I love being able to walk there.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Westborn for me is a skosh over a mile each way, so pushing the limits of "walkable carrying groceries" but on occasion I bike it. (we're hooked on Westborn's house roasted coffee!)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. JMF RE: coney with everything Mar 24, 2012 12:55 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Where I currently live in near Bronxville in Lower Westchester County in NY I could walk to seven large and good ones that are less than a 1.5 miles. But since I got hit recently with early onset and quite severe arthritis in just about every joint in my body (especially feet, knees, and hands), I'm rarely walking anywhere unless it is to events in NYC, and walking is just to the nearest taxi or subway.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Where I grew up in Park Slope Brooklyn the nearest supermarket was a block away. Also a block to a real butcher and produce market.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  When I lived in Maine at my first place in Owls Head near Rockland it was less than a mile to a great, enormous supermarket, and a few smaller ones. Even less to a very good weekly farmers market. When I moved to be close to the winery in Winterport near Bangor it was 11 miles to the nearest supermarket. One summer I tried to swear off driving for anything under ten miles and bicycled for groceries. That got old fast. But within short walking distance were several farms with markets and I could get meats and veggies as available in season.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I was over 15 miles from the nearest town, Millidgeville, and supermarkets when I lived in Georgia, but lived on a lake and we had fish traps, hunted, and had 1/4 acre veggie garden, and fruit and nut trees. With a poultry farm 1/2 mile down the road.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  When I lived in northern Minnesota it was a 45 minute drive into Ely with a good but small supermarket and almost two hours to a good supermarket.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Almost as bad when I lived in the Rockies in Colorado, about a half hour drive to the supermarket in Leadville.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  When I was in Seattle I had several within a short walk, including Larry's Green Lake location which was one of the largest and best supermarkets I ever saw. Like a combination of Costco, Whole Foods, and Fairway.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  When I lived in Florida there were several close by, under a mile, but you couldn't walk to them. Too hot out.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  When I lived near Vernon, NJ / Warwick, NY you had to drive to the nearest market, about ten minute drive. But I lived on a grass fed, raw milk, dairy farm and we made artisanal cheese and brick oven bread, and made our own beer. Also slaughtered bull calves and had chickens for eggs, and young roosters to eat. You only need one rooster and bull on a farm. All the rest are dinner.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    cookmyassoff RE: JMF Apr 14, 2012 02:19 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    colorado is such a trip that way. if u live somewhere like leadville u have to make an actual "trek" to the supermarket. but in southwest denver, where i live, there is the best, most "urban" china/viet-town along with amazing hispanic stores and hole in the wall restos. are u familiar with south federal in denver? at least u were close to great fly fishing! (im a guide) and then in aurora (east denver) u get the african/middle eastern and korean joints. u would think u were in queens ny or something!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      JMF RE: cookmyassoff Apr 14, 2012 06:28 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Never got a chance to fish when I was outside Leadville. I was an Outward bound Instructor and really busy. Same in Minnesota. I told my Denver Cuz about the great food there. He was a mid-western boy and had no clue until I took him out for a week of eating in NYC, then he had his food epiphany.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        cookmyassoff RE: JMF Apr 14, 2012 09:48 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        i grew up in northern california, not far from san francisco. so i have to admit that when i was moving to denver, i though, oh great, there goes all my great dining. nothing but rocky mountain oysters and chain restos. boy was i wrong!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    FrankD RE: coney with everything Mar 24, 2012 05:02 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Richmond Hill, a northern suburb of Toronto.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    It kinda bugs me that though I live a stone's throw from two major streets, there are no grocery stores in the immediate (5-10 min) walking area. However, when I get on my bike, I have a lot of choices. Three premium grocery chains in 2 km. Just a bit farther (in different directions), and I can add a Wal-Mart (hardly ever go there, though), a discount chain (No Frills), and a super-premium independent (Bruno's). If I hop on a bus, I can add two more discount stores and two Asian groceries.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    A few years ago, I enjoyed an "e-bike" - an electrically assisted bicycle, limited to 32 km/h, but certainly easier to get home with 25 lbs of groceries than having it in my backpack. Unexpected frost killed the battery pack one night, and haven't replaced it yet, but it certainly expanded my grocery options.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      ratgirlagogo RE: coney with everything Mar 25, 2012 12:57 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Astoria, Queens, NY. I live within ten minutes walk of a Trade Fair, a Key Food, and a C-Town. Dozens and dozens of ethnic food stores, butchers, fishmongers, vegetable stores, etc. within twenty to thirty minutes walk. I should also add that I've lived all over NYC, all five boroughs, and most areas of the city don't have anything close to this many places to buy food.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        celesul RE: coney with everything Mar 25, 2012 10:06 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Yup, although it's at the very edge of your definition of walking distance. It's a mile away. It's a very nice, very upscale sort of place, with produce I've never been able to obtain elsewhere, some interesting cheeses, very unusual canned stuff, and the best dill pickles I've ever had... It's easily the most notable place in the area I live in. People often make a special trip to go to it.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Unfortunately, it's also very expensive. A half gallon of almond milk is $5 (TJs has it for $3, Whole Foods for something between $3-4), and pasta is often $4 for 12oz. So, it's wonderful for some of the unusual items (golden kiwi are *delicious*), but I could drive to Whole foods to save money compared to walking to this place...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          electricfish RE: coney with everything Mar 26, 2012 09:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I'm in suburban Philadelphia. I guess I could technically walk to the grocery store, but it would take about 15 minutes and there wouldn't be any sidewalks, and not many crosswalks.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          It would be about half the distance to walk to my closest farmer's market, still without sidewalks, but they don't sell meat (except awesome turkeys and hams over the holidays), and thus don't meet your criteria.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Nobody walks around here except teenagers and our token homeless guy.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. LindaWhit RE: coney with everything Mar 26, 2012 10:04 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Yes - my local Market Basket, which is a New England chain, I believe (I'm in Tewksbury, MA) - it would take 15-20 minutes. But I don't want to think about lugging around the heavy cat food cans/dry food/litter (even with one of those shopping carts). But I'm not a daily food shopper, so I would have to learn to do so (and would probably be one if I lived in a city where I couldn't have a full-size fridge AND a chest freezer in the garage). However, closer to me 3-4 minutes) is a butcher with a full complement of meats and enough veggies that I could get by - for me. :-)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. Gio RE: coney with everything Mar 26, 2012 11:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Melrose Massachusetts here. From my house here's a Shaw's super market approx. 0.78 miles away with a drive time of 3 minutes. But...that's up one hill to a main road then down another hill to the market and essentially the Downtown area that has many specialty stores, restaurants, and take away joints.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              The last time I walked there was after the blizzard of '78. The snow fell for 2 1/2 days and we got about 30" inches of snow. We took long Flexible Flier sled with us and used it to trek our groceries (and our young daughter) home, as did all our neighbors. We actually left the sled outside the store and it was still there when we finished shopping. Astonishing...!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              There used to be an all purpose small family owned general store that was about a 5 minute walk but that's long gone.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Within a short driving distance we have access to a Johnny's super market (local chain), Stop & Shop, an Italian salumeria, and Trader Joe's. We prefer to shop at the TJ's, Pace's salumeria and the Market Basket in the next town.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              1. onceadaylily RE: coney with everything Mar 26, 2012 12:11 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Evanston, Il. Three years ago, I had a less than ten minute walk to two grocery stores (Jewel and WF), and dozens of restaurants and bars, and about fifteen minutes to a library. We decided we wanted something a little quieter, and found an apartment in a four-flat that had trees outside of every window, a yard, a lovely deck, a sun porch, and two bedrooms for over two hundred bucks less a month. But it now takes me a little more than twenty minutes to walk to my old neighborhood to go to those same stores, if the intersections time out right.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                A year after we moved here, my landlord hired tree-trimmers. I now have trunk-lined windows. And I miss being able to run out for a missing ingredient without it being an hour's investment. I have been lobbying hard for my boyfriend to consider moving back to our old neighborhood. I miss being able to run out for a pound of mushrooms, swing by the sushi place for a quick to-go wakame, and get back home just in time to move the laundry from the washer to the dryer.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  lilpixy RE: onceadaylily Mar 29, 2012 04:59 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  Not currently what I consider a comfortable walking distance at the moment....But I once lived in a tiny little apartment in Wheatridge CO, before my husband and I were married that was directly across the street from this tiny little "mom and pop" type place that sold fresh locally grown meats, dairy and fruits and vegetables. Rather expensive but worth the extra money....As I am not working now our food budget has been slimmed down and it's been a few years since I've been able to shop there (sigh)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                2. cookmyassoff RE: coney with everything Apr 14, 2012 01:40 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  englewood, southwest denver. the only actual grocery store besides the 7-11 convenience type store that would be a quick 10 minute or less walk is kings sooper. but if i drive/bike a couple miles away, it becomes a plethora of asian/hispanic stores and restaurants, along with a great farmers market in the veg/fruit season, tons of taco trucks and hole in the wall chinese/viet restaurants.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  1. PegS RE: coney with everything Apr 14, 2012 02:25 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Oakland/Berkeley border here as well. And most definitely yes. About 10-15 minute walk from one large supermarket, a Whole Foods and two sets of grocers/butchers etc. Oh yeah, and a Trader Joe's.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      cookmyassoff RE: PegS Apr 14, 2012 02:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      aaahhh i miss the bay area

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Val RE: cookmyassoff Apr 14, 2012 02:56 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        yep, when I visited my son in San Fran when he lived there, I was in heaven...little corner Asian markets...Trader Joe's...etc. etc. all within walking distance of any BART stop...totally magical! ♥ must.win.lotto.soon!! I would move to SF in a heartbeat!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          cookmyassoff RE: Val Apr 14, 2012 09:52 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          yea me too if i could afford it. u basically walk to whatever u want there. not real practical to have a car unless u are super-rich, since it costs almost as much to rent garage space as it does to pay for ur house or apartment. sort of like manhattan. most people walk, ride bikes, take cabs or take public transpo of some sort.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        mamachef RE: PegS Apr 16, 2012 12:16 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I have to laugh when I read things like this, because I'm here too, and your description pretty much tell me where you live. : )

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        RosePearl RE: coney with everything Apr 14, 2012 07:45 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I can easily walk to the Super Walmart several blocks away, but avoid doing so, on account of the gang member's pit bulls. We have a lot of foreclosed, ostensibly empty houses, that are being occupied by criminals and their murder machines.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          sunshine842 RE: RosePearl Apr 15, 2012 12:20 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          I am so sorry -- on so many levels.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            cookmyassoff RE: sunshine842 Apr 15, 2012 10:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            "out here" in denver, i should say.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            cookmyassoff RE: RosePearl Apr 15, 2012 10:06 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            oooh yea, me too. i live near what u might call a "marginal" neighborhood, but ive never really felt unsafe walking around among the great hispanic and asian markets there. ive lived in bad parts of southern and northern california, so the "hoods" out here seem pretty tame by comparison. i feel for u because ive definitely been there.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          3. jw615 RE: coney with everything Apr 15, 2012 01:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            While not within 10-15 minutes, there are two grocery stores near my house that are within comfortable walking distance - probably half an hour or 45 minutes each way. Hoping to be able to walk for groceries sometimes in the summer, probably with a backpack to carry my purchases.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Of course, right now my refrigerator and pantry is barely within walking distance, on account of the broken foot.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Caroline1 RE: jw615 Apr 15, 2012 02:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Heal well!

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            2. greedygirl RE: coney with everything Apr 15, 2012 08:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              I live in London, England and have tons of options within walking distance, including a butcher, several fishmongers and delis, half a dozen bakeries, two decent sized supermarkets, a branch of Marks & Spencer, a green grocer and a well-stocked Chinese supermarket. There is also a daily street market and a Sunday farmer's market. I drive to the supermarket maybe once or twice a month for basics, the rest of the time I shop locally. I love it.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Gio RE: greedygirl Apr 15, 2012 09:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                You have no idea how envious I am...

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  greedygirl RE: Gio Apr 15, 2012 10:38 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  You'd love it Gio. We also have two indoor markets with more stalls selling mostly fruit and veg and fish, and in the past two years lots of cafes and small restaurants have moved in. It's become a bit of a destination, with - gasp - tourists at the weekend. Partly because of articles like this one:


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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Gio RE: greedygirl Apr 17, 2012 06:43 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Oh I'd love it, all right. I'd gain 50 pounds just walking around and gazing fondly at all the options for deliciousness to be found there, most of which are unattainable here.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    LindaWhit RE: Gio Apr 15, 2012 05:36 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    Ditto that envy.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    cookmyassoff RE: greedygirl Apr 15, 2012 06:07 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    im sure living in a place like london it can become a tourist trap, but at least u have all that within walking distance. of course living and working in the rocky mountains of colorado, "my" rivers become complete tourist traps all summer, but of course its a necessary evil for the economy. thats awesome that u have all that so close.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Caroline1 RE: cookmyassoff Apr 15, 2012 10:32 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Not to mention Harrod's!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Harters RE: cookmyassoff Apr 16, 2012 02:13 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        London, like any major city that has tourists, has its touristy areas. But, like any major city, the vast majority of folk in the metro area are just getting on with their daily lives which don't involve touriists or the tourist business.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Caerus RE: coney with everything Apr 15, 2012 07:20 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Tallahassee, Fl. Easy walking distance (20-30 minutes) to a Publix down the road. If we are in the mood for a bit longer of a hike, we've also gone to Winn Dixie and our Asian store.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      In all honesty though, we generally don't walk to get our groceries. The combination of carrying a lot home (since we only shop once a week), and me being sick of walking (since I walk dogs for 4 hours a day as a side job) means we usually just drive.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        sunshine842 RE: Caerus Apr 15, 2012 10:23 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        assuming, of course, that Winn-Dixie has *ever* been worth walking more than 30 seconds for -- I'd consider going without. (W/D was my only option for a few years and I have enough horror stories to give a health inspector nightmares - it's not only a bad grocery, their safety procedures are downright dangerous)

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      2. Ikkeikea RE: coney with everything Apr 16, 2012 04:28 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Stavanger, Norway here. I live within walking distance of at least 5 regular grocery stores and 4 different ethnic food stores. It's a good thing, too, because many times they will run out (and stay out for a while) of basics. Sometimes I will have to walk to 3 different places to buy everything that I need. Sometimes it is an inconvenience but I mostly like it because it's good exercise. In a few years when we move back to the U.S. I'm really going to miss it. Even though I lived within walking distance (in Alabama) I would have never done it. 7 or so months out of the year, heat stroke would be an issue. That, and no one walks unless they have car problems.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          AlexCV RE: coney with everything Apr 16, 2012 02:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Montreal, Quebec, Canada. I live in a very working class neighborhood. I have within a few small city blocks:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          - A small-ish Metro grocery. Maybe 9 aisles.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          - A good bakery (Arhoma)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          - A store that sells german-style sausages
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          - A butcher shop
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          - A fruit and veggie store (not great)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          - A dry goods store

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Still within the 10 minutes walk:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          - A larger grocer (Super C, very low price focused, not quality)
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          - A small public market with a fruit & veggie vendor, cheese shop, butcher, fishmonger, bakery and dry goods store. It's the best local source for veggies, the rest isn't worth the walk.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          - A state owned liquor store (SAQ).

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          1. alliegator RE: coney with everything Apr 17, 2012 09:29 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            Almost smack in the center of Fort Worth, Tx.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I can walk down the block to a Target Super Center. Pretty ok deli, sketchy produce, but it works in a pinch.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            I do often walk there, except in the summer. I'm an extreme heat wuss! I do my normal grocery shopping at a store about 10 minutes away by car, but if I'm out of something, the Target is great.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            1. smaki RE: coney with everything May 8, 2012 08:42 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Yes, but not really. I can walk to a big name nice grocery store here in Portland, OR. Also 5 restaurants / bars, small markets, suntan, Starbucks, haircut, nursery, fresh vegetable stand when nice, bank, etc. Another mile on sidewalk is a full blown mall: Other big name grocery stores, markets, every fast food you can think of, mid-dining, movie theater, hotels, choices in fine dining, Macy's, Nordstrom, more Starbucks many of them, Barnes n Noble books, Nordstrom Rack, Target, Old Navy, Pier 1 Imports, Bead Bath and Beyond, Office Depot, Petco, banks, more, ... They say it is healthy to not drive and good for the environment where try to do my part. Is about a mile on a very straight road with mostly no side walk so dangerous and one three way stop sign. Beautiful - mostly grass seed fields with wildlife around a creek. Deep ditches to jump if needed to get away from cars. Only one blind hill in an area where after jump the ditch would have to climb a very steep muddy bank. On a straight road near a busy college in the country close to the city where people sometimes pass many go over 100 mph daily. There are very few walkers or even bike riders - with the blind hills and fast moving cars anyone who is needs to have a plan.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              When go sale shopping about once a week often hit all the big name stores within a few miles in my car after going online to read adds then map out a plan knowing sale items interested in before get to each store. Most often stop in just three places for food: Winco, Trader Joe's, and Grocery Outlet (next to a Dollar Tree) without need to look online who do not have sales but regular good prices on nice food in a quick circle for me of a few short miles. My favorite is Winco in the middle of the night (open 24/7) when they are one of the only Grocery stores open when nearly no shoppers are there making it a fast stop at least once a month. Also go to BiMart, Whole Foods, Dollar Tree, Costco, Beaverton Asian store, Cash N Carry, and ... about once a month for special items. The most special items come to my home by mail order. Have thought about getting my groceries delivered while sure there is a hefty extra delivery fee possibly tip and is nice to get out of the house and shop sales. If look do get a few deals to stock up with weekly sales and coupons always changing like for me at:

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Fred Meyer Weekly Adds:

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Del Taco Promo Page (sometimes get a soft taco when out and pays to be a member of their Fan club with a free shake around your birthday and other random free coupons beyond this link):

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                              It is more safe to drive the mile to my local grocery store. When need a bunch of groceries too many to bring back on foot a few times a month, also stop and get a soft taco with better than Taco Bell meat with tastier hot sauce. But sometimes walk if only need a few things even though a calculated risk because can.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                PAO RE: coney with everything May 8, 2012 08:48 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Yes, the flagship QFC (now, unfortunately, owned by Kroger's) is within walking distance in my NE Seattle, Washington, neighborhood. But I usually go to Metropolitan Market (small local chain), PCC (local food co-op), or Whole Foods, all within 5 minute drive, but too far to walk for a load of groceries. Now that I think of it, there's also a Safeway within walking distance (the QFC and the Safeway are on adjacent properties).

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  jujuthomas RE: coney with everything May 8, 2012 10:05 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  No, not in Blue Bell, just northwest of philly. while the distance is not unreasonable, there are no sidewalks along the roads I would take and the return trip would be arduous. I drive pretty much everywhere.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I can walk to Loblaws and Pusateri ("gourmet" independently owned grocery store). Takes me 5 minutes. In fact I can see the Loblaws from my bedroom window.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    I wouldn't normally shop at either store, but it's convenient if you are in a pinch.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                    1. kubasd RE: coney with everything May 9, 2012 10:26 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      Not even close.... The closest store is a 10 minute drive (very unsafe roads.... walking is not an option if I value my life). This is a Stop & Shop, and it is where I do most of my shopping. About equidistant in the other direction is a Big Y and a Super Walmart (or whatever it's called). The Big Y is good for some of their buy 1 get 2 free deals, but I have to make sure to not get over excited and compare the prices to make sure that I'm not paying way more for that 1 than I would at S&S. I've fallen victim many times :( If I want to go to a WF, it's about 45 minutes away, a Trader Joe's (and the closest Asian market) is 80 minutes. There is a tiny farmer's market about 15 minutes away, but I don't go there nearly as often as I'd like.

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      P.S. I "discovered" a GREAT way to figure out if I'd already replied to this thread.... just do a search on the page for your screen name! score!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        kubasd RE: kubasd May 9, 2012 02:49 PM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I just noticed I forgot to put my location... doh! SE Connecticut

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          Jenny Ondioline RE: kubasd May 10, 2012 11:50 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          That's funny, from your description of where the stores were, I could have sworn you lived in Chicopee, MA!

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                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        Lenox637 RE: coney with everything May 9, 2012 11:35 AM

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        I live in Berkshire County in MA... I have two large chain supermarkets and a high end market that sells NEFF Beef, organic free range chickens, local farm produce etc.... they are all within a mile from my house.

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