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tablefor1 Mar 7, 2012 08:06 AM

With Angeli and Drago Santa Monica now closed, it makes me wonder about some of the oldest restaurants that are still going strong. Taix has never stood out to me, but I know there are others. What are some favorites here? Especially curious about Chinese and Mexican spots that have stood the test of time...

  1. ocshooter Mar 7, 2012 08:38 AM

    Well, I don't know what the record is, but both Cole's and Philippe's lay claim to 100 years of history as the inventor of the French dip.

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    Philippe the Original
    1001 N Alameda St, Los Angeles, CA 90012

    Cole's
    118 E 6th St, Los Angeles, CA 90014

    1. Servorg Mar 7, 2012 08:41 AM

      http://manuelseltepeyac.com/history

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        wienermobile Mar 7, 2012 09:06 AM

        Philippe the Original since 1908
        Musso and Frank 1919
        The Pantry 1924
        Clifton's 1931
        Mrs. Knott's Fried Chicken 1934
        The Galley 1934
        Lawry's The Prime Rib 1938
        Du-par's 1938
        Pink's Hot Dogs 1939
        Snug Harbor Santa Monica 1941
        Cupid's Hot Dogs 1946
        The Smokehouse 1946
        Tommy's 1946
        Langer's Deli 1947
        Bob's Big Boy Burbank 1949
        Hamburger Hamlet 1950
        Casa Vega 1956
        Pann's 1958
        & Dinah's 1959

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        Philippe the Original
        1001 N Alameda St, Los Angeles, CA 90012

        Langer's Delicatessen
        704 S Alvarado St, Los Angeles, CA 90057

        Lawry's Prime Rib
        100 N La Cienega Blvd, Beverly Hills, CA 90211

        Pann's Restaurant & Coffee Shop
        6710 La Tijera Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90045

        Clifton's Cafeteria
        648 S Broadway, Los Angeles, CA 90014

        Dinah's
        6521 S Sepulveda Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90045

        Musso & Frank Grill
        6667 Hollywood Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90028

        Cupid's Hot Dogs
        9039 Lindley Av, Northridge, CA

        The Galley Restaurant
        2442 Main Street, Santa Monica, CA 90405

        Bob's Big Boy
        4211 W Riverside Dr, Burbank, CA 91505

        Snug Harbor
        2323 Wilshire Blvd, Santa Monica, CA 90403

        Dupar's Restaurants & Bakeries
        Los Angeles CA, Los Angeles, CA

        Casa Vega Restaurant
        13301 Ventura Blvd, Sherman Oaks, CA 91423

        1. re: wienermobile
          TonyC Mar 7, 2012 09:13 AM

          Isn't Canter's ~1930s? http://www.cantersdeli.com/history.html
          I think Nate N Al opened earlier than Langer's, too? 1945?

          Anywho. I think per previous discussion, Formosa is the oldest Chinese restaurant in LA, with Phoenix Bakery (Chinatown) a bit behind.

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            tablefor1 Mar 7, 2012 02:17 PM

            Formosa! Didn't even realize it was so old... Thanks Tony.

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              Servorg Mar 7, 2012 02:22 PM

              I am fairly sure that the Twin Dragon on Pico Blvd. is 50 years old (opened in 1962 IIRC)

              http://www.wix.com/simonttang18/1

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            Servorg Mar 7, 2012 09:13 AM

            Pacific Dining Car 1921

            Original Pantry 1924

            Casa La Golondrina 1924

            El Cholo 1927

            Canter's 1931

            Clifton's 1035

            Lawry's 1938

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              perk Mar 8, 2012 04:16 PM

              wow....1035 for clifton's.....
              wonder what they were serving.......smile....

            2. re: wienermobile
              tablefor1 Mar 7, 2012 02:16 PM

              impressively cohesive weinermobile.

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                FED Mar 7, 2012 02:46 PM

                impressive list! should we make a separate sort of non-chain restaurants that have been in the same location the whole time? for example, i believe philipe moved once back in the teens or 20s. i'm pretty sure canter's did. is knott's still open? the original one?

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                  Servorg Mar 7, 2012 02:48 PM

                  Canter's history here: http://www.cantersdeli.com/history.html

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                    wienermobile Mar 7, 2012 02:50 PM

                    Mrs. Knotts is still open. They are scheduled to do a big remodel in the next year.

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                Jack Flash Mar 7, 2012 09:11 AM

                Musso & Frank (1919) comes to mind.

                El Cholo - in is present location since 1931, but can trace its origins to a 1923 cafe.

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                  cjla Mar 7, 2012 09:21 AM

                  Columbo's in Eagle Rock--since 1954.

                  http://colombosrestaurant.com/

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                    Servorg Mar 7, 2012 09:24 AM

                    And in that same time frame, Taylor's (1953) on 8th Street in K town: http://www.taylorssteakhouse.com/

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                    foodiemahoodie Mar 7, 2012 09:23 AM

                    Tam O’Shanter opened in 1922. Owned and operated by the same family. In Atwater Village. Glendale-ish.

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                      AAQjr Mar 7, 2012 02:06 PM

                      Formosa Cafe 1925

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                        Jack Flash Mar 7, 2012 02:10 PM

                        Dal Rae - 1958
                        The Golden Spur in Glendora has been around for a long time (can't find a date, but judging from its sign, I'd say 1950s at least)
                        The Sycamore Inn - 1939

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                          Servorg Mar 7, 2012 04:47 PM

                          I love the Dal http://www.dalrae.com/about.htm

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                            ndukka562 Mar 22, 2012 09:53 AM

                            Who doesn't?

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                            kevin Mar 25, 2012 03:36 PM

                            i still gotta get to dal rae. does it have a bar where you can have a drink or two and soak up the atmo?

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                              SoozyQ Mar 26, 2012 06:01 PM

                              The Dal Rae has a very nice bar. We usually go there for lunch and eat in the bar. There drinks are also very good but expensive of course.

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                                ndukka562 Apr 9, 2012 03:03 PM

                                Yes it has a bar with a fantastically-old-fashioned styling to match the dining area.

                                Go have a martini in the bar, follow with a pepper steak, and be amazed when you step outside and don't see cars from the 1960s.

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                                  kevin Apr 9, 2012 04:56 PM

                                  Will they make yet pepper steak without the bacon ?

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                                    ndukka562 Apr 26, 2012 12:20 PM

                                    I guess, but why skimp?

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                                    Tom P Apr 10, 2012 11:06 AM

                                    They also have a piano built into the floor like a bar where you can sit and have a drink. Good times. I love the Dal Rae.

                              2. tablefor1 Mar 7, 2012 02:19 PM

                                Someone just told me about Chaya's history. Also, Michael's and Casa Vega.

                                Are there still Hamburger Hamlets out there?

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                                  matikin9 Mar 7, 2012 03:37 PM

                                  Pasadena & Sherman Oaks - http://hamburgerhamlet.com/index.php?...

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                                    BSW6490 Mar 7, 2012 04:14 PM

                                    Chaya's history? I thought it opened in the 80s? As to the Hamlet, I think (with the recent closing of the West Hollywood branch) they are down to one in Sherman Oaks.

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                                      HastaLaPasta Mar 22, 2012 03:56 PM

                                      I believe I just heard that a new Hamburger Hamlet is opening in Silver Lake?

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                                        Servorg Mar 22, 2012 04:00 PM

                                        http://www.larchmontbuzz.com/the-buzz...

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                                        yinyangdi Apr 16, 2012 06:25 PM

                                        Chaya Brasserie has been open for 28-ish years according to LAT
                                        http://articles.latimes.com/2011/jan/27/food/la-fo-review-20110127

                                        and The Chaya restaurant family originated over 390 years ago:
                                        "The Chaya restaurant family originated when Hikage Chaya opened in Hayama, Japan, over 390 years ago. From this initial tea house, the Tsunoda family has expanded into French bistros and pastry shops throughout Japan, to Chaya Brasserie Los Angeles, Chaya Venice, and, Chaya Brasserie San Francisco…"
                                        http://www.mcafedechaya.com/about-res...

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                                      AAQjr Mar 7, 2012 02:25 PM

                                      The inimitable Titos tacos 1959!

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                                        Servorg Mar 7, 2012 02:30 PM

                                        And I raise you an Apple Pan (1947)

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                                          Servorg Mar 7, 2012 02:46 PM

                                          Primo's Donuts: 1956: http://www.primosdonuts.com/

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                                            wienermobile Mar 7, 2012 02:54 PM

                                            Stan's Donuts 1965

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                                            Stan's Doughnuts
                                            10948 Weyburn Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90024

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                                              wienermobile Mar 7, 2012 02:57 PM

                                              Hot Dog on a Stick Santa Monica Pier 1946.

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                                                wienermobile Mar 7, 2012 03:06 PM

                                                Magee's Kitchen at Farmer's Market 1934 (the very first restaurant in the market) & Bennett's Ice Cream 1945. But I can't find a year for Bob's Donuts and it's been there as long as I can remember.

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                                                Farmers Market
                                                6333 W 3rd St, Los Angeles, CA 90036

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                                                  kevin Mar 25, 2012 03:37 PM

                                                  is maggee's kitchen the joint that serves the corned beef?

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                                                    wienermobile Mar 25, 2012 03:44 PM

                                                    Yes it is.

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                                                      Will Owen Apr 6, 2012 12:06 PM

                                                      I would urge you to get some. Now, I had my last one with good potato salad, but I can't remember if it was Magee's or the Gumbo Pot's …

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                                            tablefor1 Mar 7, 2012 02:59 PM

                                            How could I forget!

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                                              AAQjr Mar 7, 2012 04:16 PM

                                              I Call. Dolores Restaurant and Bakery 1930 (really? wow!)

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                                                Servorg Mar 7, 2012 04:30 PM

                                                Are you referring to the Dolores Restaurant in West LA on Santa Monica Blvd, just west of the 405? If so not in LA for anything near that long: http://www.doloresrestaurant.com/inde...

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                                                  AAQjr Mar 7, 2012 04:33 PM

                                                  boy did i miss-read that! I fold

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                                                    wienermobile Mar 7, 2012 04:35 PM

                                                    The original Dolores was a Drive In on Wilshire near La Cienega in Beverly Hills. The one on Santa Monica Blvd is from the same family.

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                                                      Servorg Mar 7, 2012 04:41 PM

                                                      Dolores used to get props from me for being 24/7. Then on one of my middle of the night bike rides I saw that they are no longer keeping 24/7 hours. The food is now in the "Izzy's Deli" category and I just can't bring myself to recommend them anymore.

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                                                        kevin Mar 25, 2012 03:38 PM

                                                        i can't eat the food at doloroes, atlhough recently they may have changed ownerships since for the first time in years they have different goods on the menu i.e. kababs.

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                                                        Midlife Nov 6, 2012 04:37 PM

                                                        I know the Dolores in BH was there in the early '60's but closed in '81. A Google search found an LA Times article dating it back to 1947.

                                                        Paul Newman winked at my wife (then girlfriend) there as he and Joanne Woodward were leaving to cross Wilshire to see The Prize (which came out in '63). Boy..... how many times has she recounted that story since????

                                                        http://articles.latimes.com/1987-08-2...

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                                                    ndukka562 Mar 22, 2012 09:53 AM

                                                    And they haven't even changed their menu since then!

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                                                    tablefor1 Mar 7, 2012 03:21 PM

                                                    Sad that the longest standing "Mexican" place we can come up with is Tito's Tacos. It's like an independently owned and operated Taco Bell, IMO.

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                                                      Servorg Mar 7, 2012 03:31 PM

                                                      Casa La Golondrina 1924

                                                      El Cholo 1927

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                                                        kevin Mar 25, 2012 03:38 PM

                                                        Nothing like taco bell in my opinioin, they don't have ground beef they use that shredded beef stuff.

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                                                          emosbaugh Mar 27, 2012 05:18 PM

                                                          manny's el tepeyac 1952 in its original form. 1942 in downtown - http://www.garfieldalumnifoundation.o...

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                                                            Feed_me Jan 17, 2013 01:09 AM

                                                            My sister once in a while brings me a wet burrito from Leo's Mexican Food in Lawndale. I'm not crazy about the burrito, but it is huge. Today she gave me a copy of their to go menu. It says they opened in 1948. There is a picture of the original place and their current place doesn't look anything like the current incarnation. Can anybody enlighten me?

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                                                        SoCal Foodie Mar 7, 2012 02:43 PM

                                                        Petrillo's Pizza in San Gabriel - 1954
                                                        Jolly Jug in El Monte - 1946

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                                                          jgilbert Nov 6, 2012 09:51 AM

                                                          +1 for Petrillo's. Have been going there for 35 years. The Petrillo's Special is an amazing pizza.

                                                        2. Chandavkl Mar 7, 2012 02:47 PM

                                                          All the old school places in Chinatown are gone. Grand Star dates back to the 1940s but they stopped serving food and are now just a nightclub and bar. Paul's Kitchen on San Pedro St. (the secret Chinatown of the 1940s and 1950s) is still open and I'm guessing they date back to the 1950s, though I think there may have been a location change in the 50s or 60s.

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                                                            Jerry P. Santa Monica Mar 7, 2012 02:53 PM

                                                            Rae's , Ocean Park Blvd., Santa Monica---1958

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                                                              kevin Mar 25, 2012 03:39 PM

                                                              When to rae's recently? and it was terrible, have no clue how it stayed in business this long aside from the classic diner look.

                                                            2. Gypsy Jan Mar 7, 2012 03:17 PM

                                                              Nobody is playing in Orange County (still part of the LA board?)

                                                              Larry Cano's El Torito restaurant in Fullerton, since the '60's and once a wildly successful chain and brand: http://www.eltorito.com

                                                              Orange Hill Restaurant since the 1960's: http://www.theorangehillrestaurant.com/orangehill/

                                                              Orange County Mining Company Restaurant, since the 70's: www.orangecountyminingco.com

                                                              Mr. Stox Restaurant since 1977: http://www.mrstox.com/about_mrstox.html

                                                              Angelo's 50's Carhop Diner: http://www.angelosrestaurant.net/

                                                              Knowlwood Hamburgers in Yorba Linda ( I would ride my horse there back in the day}. http://yp.ocregi/knowlwood,com

                                                              The La Palma Chicken Pie Shop: http://events.ocregister.com/anaheim_ca/venues/show/56697-la-palma-chicken-pie-shop

                                                              Benjie's Deli, Santa Ana: http://www.benjiesdeli.com/reviews.php:

                                                              Moreno's Mexican Restaurant, City of Orange, since 1969: http://www.morenosrestaurant.com/menu/

                                                              Watson's Drugs and Soda Counter in the City of Orange, for more than 100 years: http://watsonsdrugs.com/

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                                                                Juji Mar 7, 2012 04:05 PM

                                                                Also in Orange County, El Patio Cafe in Capistrano Beach, serving since the late 1930's. Love their tacos.

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                                                                  Servorg Mar 7, 2012 05:14 PM

                                                                  Okay. I'll play. Since 1939 http://www.harborhousecafe.com/

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                                                                    Gypsy Jan Mar 7, 2012 05:35 PM

                                                                    Yeah! I love the Harbor House, Memories of hangover reducing early morning breakfasts.

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                                                                  Gypsy Jan Mar 7, 2012 05:41 PM

                                                                  The Galley Cafe on Harbor Island Drive in Newport Beach.

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                                                                    Gypsy Jan Mar 7, 2012 08:32 PM

                                                                    The Cellar, Fullerton

                                                                    La Cave, Costa Mesa

                                                                    And, (I don't know if it is still open), The Hobbit, Orange

                                                                    Now, I am officially exhausted.

                                                                    1. re: Gypsy Jan
                                                                      Servorg Mar 7, 2012 08:52 PM

                                                                      I also nominate Olamendi's for their longevity: http://originalolamendis.com/

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                                                                        josephnl Sep 29, 2012 10:58 AM

                                                                        The Hobbit is very much alive and well. Dining there is an absolutely unique experience. Very tradional old world with an outstanding wine cellar, and very good food and service...their champagne and hors d'oeuvres reception is special.

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                                                                        ndukka562 Mar 22, 2012 09:56 AM

                                                                        Uh, Crab Cooker (1951, under different name)

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                                                                          Jwsel Mar 27, 2012 11:24 PM

                                                                          The original El Torito was in Encino, next to Los Encinos park, but it closed several years ago when they opened the El Torito Grill at the Sherman Oaks Galleria.

                                                                          Monty's Steakhouse has been around in various incarnations for decades. Their website says they've been owned and operation for 65 years, but I don't know how long the Woodland Hills restaurant has been in business. They had other branches in Encino, Westwood, and Pasadena.

                                                                          The Valley Inn has been in business since 1947.

                                                                        2. wienermobile Mar 7, 2012 03:27 PM

                                                                          The Polo Lounge 1940
                                                                          The Hat 1951
                                                                          Johnnies Pastrami 1952
                                                                          Casa Bianca 1955
                                                                          Neptune's Net Malibu 1958
                                                                          Uncle Bill's Pancake House 1961

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                                                                          Neptune's Net Seafood
                                                                          42505 Pacific Coast Hwy, Malibu, CA 90265

                                                                          The Hat
                                                                          491 N Lake Ave, Pasadena, CA 91101

                                                                          Uncle Bill's Pancake House
                                                                          1305 Highland Ave, Manhattan Beach, CA 90266

                                                                          Casa Bianca Pizza Pie
                                                                          1650 Colorado Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90041

                                                                          Johnnie's Pastrami
                                                                          4017 Sepulveda Blvd, Culver City, CA 90230

                                                                          Polo Lounge @ The Beverly Hills Hotel
                                                                          9641 Sunset Blvd., Beverly Hills, CA 90210

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                                                                            Clyde Mar 7, 2012 03:45 PM

                                                                            I've never had the food here, but the drinks are pretty good! HSM Bounty- 1948. Love the atmosphere here... if it was good enough for Jack Webb it's good enough for me!

                                                                            1. Peripatetic Mar 7, 2012 04:15 PM

                                                                              Some more data points:

                                                                              Billingsley's - 1946
                                                                              Otomisan (Japanese) - 1956
                                                                              Yama Restaurant (Japanese) - 1968?

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                                                                              Billingsley's
                                                                              11326 W Pico Blvd, Los Angeles, CA 90064
                                                                              310-477-1426
                                                                              http://billingsleysrestaurant.com/

                                                                              Otomisan
                                                                              2506 E 1st St, Los Angeles, CA 90033
                                                                              323-526-1150

                                                                              Yama Restaurant
                                                                              433 W Main St, Alhambra, CA 91801
                                                                              626-576-9828

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                                                                                paprkutr Mar 7, 2012 04:21 PM

                                                                                El Coyote on Beverly Blvd and Pointsettia Pl.

                                                                                Canter's (started in Boyle Heights on Brooklyn Ave)
                                                                                Also, Taylor's Steakhouse on 8th Street. Started in 1953 and moved into new location in 1970.

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                                                                                  BSW6490 Mar 7, 2012 04:40 PM

                                                                                  How about Barone's pizza. In my opinion still one of the best pizzas in Los Angeles. 1945

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                                                                                    jgilbert Nov 6, 2012 09:55 AM

                                                                                    Good call. Used to frequent the Toluca Lake branch. Now on Oxnard and Woodman. Very tasty, unique thin crust rectangular pizzas with the cheese on top.

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                                                                                    AAQjr Mar 7, 2012 05:09 PM

                                                                                    Does Bay Cities Deli count? They claim 1925

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                                                                                      Bradbury Mar 7, 2012 05:37 PM

                                                                                      Mijares (Pasadena) - Founded 1920, though not sure when they moved to present location

                                                                                      The Derby (Arcadia) - Since 1931 in present location, opened in 1922 as a pub closer to race track

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                                                                                        bad nono Mar 7, 2012 09:03 PM

                                                                                        I don't know since when it's open, but surely The Buggy Whip should be on that list? it's one of those places that seem to have been here since forever.
                                                                                        And, La Villa Basque (1960)

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                                                                                          New Trial Mar 8, 2012 01:04 AM

                                                                                          Let's add Miceli in Hollywood, which dates back to a mere 1949. If the Queen Mary counts, we can throw in 1934, albeit it was nowhere near Los Angeles at the time. I know Yamashiro was built back around WWI but think it was only converted to a restaurant much more recently--the 60s or 70s? Of course, there are those who would argue that it is still not a real restaurant.

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                                                                                            budlit Mar 8, 2012 03:34 PM

                                                                                            Old Place, in Cornell/Malibu - 1941

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                                                                                              EricDC Mar 22, 2012 10:24 AM

                                                                                              Chez Jay in Santa Monica has been around since the 1950's.

                                                                                              And hasn't the Golden Bull in SaMo been around since the golden age of television?

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                                                                                                Servorg May 28, 2012 02:40 PM

                                                                                                The Golden Bull opened in Santa Monica Canyon on W Channel Rd. in 1950 (so definitely belongs on this thread).

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                                                                                                  bulavinaka May 28, 2012 02:44 PM

                                                                                                  Funny you mention the Golden Bull. I just drove by there on Saturday, mentioning to my wife that it already seemed a little old when I saw it as a kid back in the '60s and '70s.

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                                                                                                    Servorg May 28, 2012 03:10 PM

                                                                                                    At one time that location was Ted's Grill (before it moved over onto Entrada just up the street from Marix's Tex Mex place). The Ted's Grill's space was eventually taken over by Gladstones in 1972 (Ted's was long gone by that time) before Gladstones was moved to it's present location on PCH at Sunset in 1981 or so.

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                                                                                                Ernie Mar 22, 2012 11:46 AM

                                                                                                Clearmans Restaurants (Steak & Stein, Northwoods Inn) have been around at least 40-50 years

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                                                                                                  chuck Mar 23, 2012 06:14 PM

                                                                                                  I haven't been there in years but I think that Dresden in Hollywood would qualify.
                                                                                                  Chili Johns in Burbank also.

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                                                                                                    wienermobile Mar 23, 2012 06:55 PM

                                                                                                    Chili Johns since 1946.

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                                                                                                      maudies5 Mar 25, 2012 05:15 PM

                                                                                                      The Apple Pan

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                                                                                                    Butter Fight Mar 26, 2012 03:57 PM

                                                                                                    I know its already been listed but, I thought I would add the year for El Coyote. 1931

                                                                                                    If we're moving into the 60s let's add

                                                                                                    Al and Bea's 1966

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                                                                                                      Poisonpen Apr 4, 2012 08:42 PM

                                                                                                      I'm getting indigestion just reading this thread. still, it is a nice trip down memory lane.

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                                                                                                      Piggyinthemiddle Apr 6, 2012 09:18 AM

                                                                                                      The Magic Lamp: Since 1955. Located at 8189 Foothill Blvd (Route 66), Rancho Cucamonga. With flashing neon Aladdin's lamp on the road. The grown-up place to go with your parents in the 50s and 60s. The menu a blast from the past.
                                                                                                      It is just up the road from the Sycamore Inn - see above (which, incidently, was originally founded in 1848, though it moved along Foothill and has been much enlarged). Still has the early little saloon room with river stone chimney.

                                                                                                      Dan Tana's: Since 1964. Haunt of Sinatra, Rat Pack, the young Al Pachino. Stll serving up-market red Italian.

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                                                                                                        bulavinaka Apr 6, 2012 09:36 AM

                                                                                                        Lawry's Tam O'Shanter - 1922

                                                                                                        Gallegos Mexican Deli (RIP) - 1946

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                                                                                                          kevin Apr 6, 2012 10:33 AM

                                                                                                          Gallegos is still open just on a different street I believe. Think Venice now.

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                                                                                                            Servorg Apr 6, 2012 11:01 AM

                                                                                                            They just shut their doors (as reported here: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/841773 )

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                                                                                                            bulavinaka Apr 6, 2012 02:32 PM

                                                                                                            Almost forgot to add Coffee Bean and Tea Leaf, if they vaguely count in this thread. They opened their first shop in Brentwood back in 1963. That's being way ahead of what is now a national obsession of varying degrees and sorts.

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                                                                                                              OldVanNuys Apr 7, 2012 07:35 PM

                                                                                                              The Saugus Cafe claims 1887. See http://www.scvhistory.com/scvhistory/....

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                                                                                                                Calipoutine Apr 18, 2012 07:12 PM

                                                                                                                Duh, I should know that. I live right down the street from Saugus Cafe in Canyon Country.

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                                                                                                                maudies5 Apr 27, 2012 07:51 PM

                                                                                                                I lived just up the street. The Coffee Bean was quite a sensation. They also tried a peanut butter and jelly store next to the Coffee Bean. However, the concept was short lived. I believe the CB is still a privately held company.

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                                                                                                                Burger Boy Apr 8, 2012 01:32 PM

                                                                                                                I still have half a jar of their house salsa left. It will be gone by wednesday.

                                                                                                              4. Peripatetic Apr 8, 2012 02:23 PM

                                                                                                                Twohey's -- opened in Pasadena in 1943 and moved to present location in Alhambra sometime in the 50s or 60s.

                                                                                                                1. Gypsy Jan Apr 14, 2012 01:50 PM

                                                                                                                  Five Crowns, Corona del Mar (part of the Lawry's Group).

                                                                                                                  http://www.lawrysonline.com/five-crowns

                                                                                                                  1. Calipoutine Apr 18, 2012 07:18 PM

                                                                                                                    Domenico's in Long Beach, 1954

                                                                                                                    http://www.domenicosrestaurant.com/

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                                                                                                                      ndukka562 Apr 26, 2012 12:21 PM

                                                                                                                      Heck yea! I was raised on their ground sausage pizza.

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                                                                                                                      nikkihwood Apr 18, 2012 08:38 PM

                                                                                                                      I've read through the thread twice, and don't see Chris & Pitts. 1940, Lynwood. three locations still open.

                                                                                                                      1. Hughlipton Apr 28, 2012 08:15 AM

                                                                                                                        I'll throw my chips in the pot. I didn't see, and maybe I missed it, any mention of the Buiggy Whip. Agreat place for old vibes. A steakhouse where Mickey Cohen used to hang out. Mickey who? Google it. Excellent for the price and crab claws when in season. Used to and still may serve green goddess dressing on their salads. A 1949 establishment.

                                                                                                                        1. Hughlipton Apr 28, 2012 08:19 AM

                                                                                                                          Also the Valley Inn, possibly the oldest still existing in the San Fernando Valley, since 1947. One of the go to places when I was growing up.

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                                                                                                                            Sharuf Apr 28, 2012 08:36 AM

                                                                                                                            quite a few years ago my sweetie and I came down from SF and did an LA nostalgia trip, checking out old landmarks etc. We included an evening in Barney's Beanery, which to our tourist sensibilities was full of Old LA vibe.

                                                                                                                            Is it still there? I think it belongs on a list like this.

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                                                                                                                              Wagonboy May 15, 2012 09:00 PM

                                                                                                                              The Munch Box on Devonshire in Chatsworth... 1946.

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                                                                                                                                Servorg May 16, 2012 06:03 AM

                                                                                                                                Your giving them 10 years too many according to this: http://northridge.patch.com/listings/...

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                                                                                                                                  Wagonboy May 16, 2012 06:43 AM

                                                                                                                                  My bad! 56 years ain't shabby, though. It's a registered landmark, too. -Wb

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                                                                                                                                    mrjimmy May 16, 2012 07:55 AM

                                                                                                                                    How bout Damones on brand in Glendale ....1930's

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                                                                                                                                Dirtywextraolives Sep 29, 2012 11:58 AM

                                                                                                                                Can't believe you guys don't know about Hal's in the Stillwell Hotel downtown, 1912. 838 South Grand. Was one of the first dives I went to with my soon-to-be husband when I first moved out here almost 18 years ago.....

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                                                                                                                                  mc michael Sep 29, 2012 03:29 PM

                                                                                                                                  Do you mean Hank's?

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                                                                                                                                    Dirtywextraolives Sep 29, 2012 03:55 PM

                                                                                                                                    Oh dear yes, I wrote Hal's didn't I? Thinking Hank....thoughts not always making it down to fingertips, LOL!! Thanks for clarifying for everyone!!

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                                                                                                                                    Sam D. Sep 29, 2012 05:01 PM

                                                                                                                                    Hank's is a venerable old watering hole but it's not a restaurant.

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                                                                                                                                      Dirtywextraolives Sep 29, 2012 08:23 PM

                                                                                                                                      Um, they served food. May not be awesome food, but I know for a fact that we ATE lunch there, perhaps they have changed that policy in the last 15 years......

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                                                                                                                                        ChinoWayne Oct 1, 2012 12:00 AM

                                                                                                                                        They did serve lunch at Hanks, at least 25 years ago, when my alcoholic manager would insist on dragging some colleagues and myself there for lunch.

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                                                                                                                                          Dirtywextraolives Oct 1, 2012 10:03 AM

                                                                                                                                          Yes, they are in a hotel, they serve food. My husband worked downtown for twenty years, so there is no doubt in my mind that they served food, he's been there many, many times. Like I said, he took me there for lunch, before we even got engaged. So unless they stopped serving food in the past say, seven years or so, but I highly doubt it.

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                                                                                                                                            kevin Oct 1, 2012 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                            wow.

                                                                                                                                            i take it that hank's was not very good at all for the food. ???

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                                                                                                                                              Dirtywextraolives Oct 1, 2012 11:34 AM

                                                                                                                                              Not really. Hard to recall for me, my husband ate there many more times than me, but you don't really go for the food.

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                                                                                                                                      chowbee Sep 29, 2012 03:56 PM

                                                                                                                                      Tony's on the Redondo Beach Pier is celebrating it's 60th anniversary this year (1952)

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                                                                                                                                        kevin Oct 1, 2012 10:56 AM

                                                                                                                                        i have a real soft spot for tony's and there mai tais. thouigh i have never tried the food i have no clue if it's any good.

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                                                                                                                                        Sam D. Sep 29, 2012 05:33 PM

                                                                                                                                        Petrelli's Steakhouse in Culver City originated in 1931.
                                                                                                                                        They moved at least once from the east to the west side of Sepulveda and to a much larger building.

                                                                                                                                        Eastside Market Italian Deli dates back to 1929. Its current owners took over in 1974.

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                                                                                                                                          josephnl Oct 1, 2012 12:55 PM

                                                                                                                                          Is Trader Vic's at the Beverly Hilton still going? If so, it's got to be one of LA's oldest...isn't it?

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                                                                                                                                            Jack Flash Oct 1, 2012 01:24 PM

                                                                                                                                            Alas, it's been gone for a few years now.

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                                                                                                                                              Thor123 Oct 1, 2012 01:34 PM

                                                                                                                                              Actually, it is still a small outpost by the pool at the BH Hilton and a full scale restaurant at LA Live.

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                                                                                                                                                Jack Flash Oct 2, 2012 10:14 AM

                                                                                                                                                The thread is about "oldest" restaurants. The new, fake Trader Vic's concession at the Hilton has nothing but the name from the defunct and dismantled establishment that used to exist. Likewise, the more credible version at L.A. Live is only a few years old, again hardly qualifying among L.A.'s oldest restaurants.

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                                                                                                                                                  Thor123 Oct 2, 2012 11:37 AM

                                                                                                                                                  My point was that the restaurant continues to operate (the "small outpost" at the original Hilton) and the larger one at LA Live. I did not mean to imply that it was the same spot or had continuously operated. Just that it relates back.

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                                                                                                                                              latindancer Nov 3, 2012 09:25 AM

                                                                                                                                              <Is Trader Vic's at the Beverly Hilton still going??

                                                                                                                                              I can never drive by the place without thinking about my old favorite. I sure miss it.

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                                                                                                                                              elpapi Nov 2, 2012 10:36 PM

                                                                                                                                              I didn't see Ernie's in Eagle Rock, 1944.

                                                                                                                                              1. mucho gordo Nov 3, 2012 10:49 AM

                                                                                                                                                There ought to be a thread remembering all the great places that didn't survive. Sadly, it's a long list.

                                                                                                                                                1. scottca075 Nov 3, 2012 12:31 PM

                                                                                                                                                  What I found interesting was how many of these places I've been to, I think I'm only missing 8 or 9 that I haven't been to, but there are a few that I've missed that I've never heard of, which I found even more interesting how long my family and I have lived in the LA area.

                                                                                                                                                  I also find it interesting that no one ever remember's Greenblatt's Deli, LA's oldest (1927) and Russell's in Pasadena (1930).

                                                                                                                                                  I couldn't find exact dates on The Buggy Whip or Steven's Steak House (Commerce), but I think they both date to around 1960. I'll need to go and ask.

                                                                                                                                                  Philippe the Original since 1908
                                                                                                                                                  Cole’s 1908
                                                                                                                                                  Musso and Frank 1919
                                                                                                                                                  Pacific Dining Car 1921
                                                                                                                                                  Tam O’Shanter Inn 1922
                                                                                                                                                  Original Pantry Café 1924
                                                                                                                                                  Casa La Golondrina 1924
                                                                                                                                                  Formosa Café 1925
                                                                                                                                                  Bay Cities Deli 1925
                                                                                                                                                  El Cholo 1927
                                                                                                                                                  Taix 1927
                                                                                                                                                  Greenblatt’s Deli 1927
                                                                                                                                                  Eastside Market Italian Deli 1929
                                                                                                                                                  Russell’s Pasadena 1930
                                                                                                                                                  Canter's 1931
                                                                                                                                                  Clifton's 1931
                                                                                                                                                  El Coyote 1931
                                                                                                                                                  Petrelli Steakhouse 1931
                                                                                                                                                  Mrs. Knott's Fried Chicken 1934
                                                                                                                                                  Magee’s Kitchen 1934
                                                                                                                                                  The Galley 1934
                                                                                                                                                  Clifton's 1935
                                                                                                                                                  Tom Bergin’s 1936
                                                                                                                                                  Bob's Big Boy 1936
                                                                                                                                                  Damon’s Steak House 1937
                                                                                                                                                  Phoenix Bakery 1938
                                                                                                                                                  Lawry's The Prime Rib 1938
                                                                                                                                                  Du-par's 1938
                                                                                                                                                  The Sycamore Inn 1939
                                                                                                                                                  Pink's Hot Dogs 1939
                                                                                                                                                  The Polo Lounge 1940
                                                                                                                                                  Snug Harbor Santa Monica 1941
                                                                                                                                                  Old Place 1941
                                                                                                                                                  Twohey’s 1943
                                                                                                                                                  Dolores Restaurant & Bakery 1944
                                                                                                                                                  Ernie’s Taco House 1944
                                                                                                                                                  Billingsley’s 1946
                                                                                                                                                  Cupid's Hot Dogs 1946
                                                                                                                                                  Chili John’s 1946
                                                                                                                                                  The Smokehouse 1946
                                                                                                                                                  Tommy's 1946
                                                                                                                                                  The Apple Pan 1947
                                                                                                                                                  Valley Inn & Restaurant 1947
                                                                                                                                                  Langer's Deli 1947
                                                                                                                                                  Miceli’s 1949
                                                                                                                                                  Hamburger Hamlet 1950
                                                                                                                                                  Golden Bull Restaurant 1950
                                                                                                                                                  The Hat 1951
                                                                                                                                                  Johnnies Pastrami 1952
                                                                                                                                                  Taylor’s Steakhouse 1953
                                                                                                                                                  The Dresden Restaurant 1954
                                                                                                                                                  Casa Vega 1956
                                                                                                                                                  Munch Box 1956
                                                                                                                                                  Pann's 1958
                                                                                                                                                  Dinah's 1959
                                                                                                                                                  Tallyrand 1959
                                                                                                                                                  Paty’s 1960
                                                                                                                                                  The Buggy Whip 1960?
                                                                                                                                                  Chez Jay 1960
                                                                                                                                                  Steven’s Steak House 1962?

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                                                                                                                                                    Servorg Nov 3, 2012 01:30 PM

                                                                                                                                                    I believe the Buggy Whip opened in Westchester in 1952 or so...

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                                                                                                                                                      Servorg Oct 24, 2013 09:45 AM

                                                                                                                                                      And now the Buggy Whip has passed http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/9195... into the history books...

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                                                                                                                                                      Ernie Nov 5, 2012 10:17 PM

                                                                                                                                                      Venice Room 1955

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                                                                                                                                                      jgilbert Nov 6, 2012 09:58 AM

                                                                                                                                                      Pie N Burger in Pasadena....on California just East of Lake Street. Very tasty burgers and homemade pies. Was there on Saturday.

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                                                                                                                                                        jgilbert Nov 6, 2012 09:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                        Pie N Burger opened in 1963.

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                                                                                                                                                        chewbacca Nov 16, 2012 07:26 PM

                                                                                                                                                        I just returned from Casa Vega, had their house margarita, rocks/salt, plus the lobster quesadilla and the crab and lobster tostadas, and lots of chips and salsa, and it was just delicious. Huge chunks of lobster. The house is already in full blown Christmas decor. Highly recommended!

                                                                                                                                                        1. wienermobile Oct 24, 2013 09:51 AM

                                                                                                                                                          Bay Cities Italian Deli, Santa Monica Since 1925

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                                                                                                                                                            Servorg Oct 24, 2013 10:00 AM

                                                                                                                                                            Nice article here on BCD http://www.surfsantamonica.com/ssm_site/the_lookout/news/News-2011/February-2011/02_17_2011_Bay_Cities_Deli.html and another more general one on old deli's in L.A. here http://dailybruin.com/2010/05/24/bite...

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                                                                                                                                                              wienermobile Oct 24, 2013 10:03 AM

                                                                                                                                                              Thanks for the great article on Bay Cities, it is indeed the bread.

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                                                                                                                                                                jessejames Oct 24, 2013 10:31 AM

                                                                                                                                                                i know it's popular but i always thought BC was vastly overrated. Am I alone here? Don't get me wrong, i can enjoy a hoagie there but id take one from papa jakes or other places any day over BC and not shlep and wait in line there....

                                                                                                                                                          2. wienermobile Oct 24, 2013 09:59 AM

                                                                                                                                                            Plan Check since 2012

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                                                                                                                                                              kevin Oct 24, 2013 11:07 AM

                                                                                                                                                              2012 ? The oldest ?

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                                                                                                                                                                Servorg Oct 24, 2013 11:12 AM

                                                                                                                                                                Tongue firmly planted in wienermobile's cheeky cheek...

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                                                                                                                                                                  kevin Oct 24, 2013 03:09 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  Is tongue in cheek similar to cheek to jowl ???????

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                                                                                                                                                              trimtab Oct 25, 2013 12:41 PM

                                                                                                                                                              Musso Franks opened in 1919 and still has many of the original waiters.

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                                                                                                                                                                Servorg Oct 25, 2013 12:43 PM

                                                                                                                                                                lol (stored in the walk-in freezer?)

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                                                                                                                                                                  kevin Oct 25, 2013 12:44 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  :)

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                                                                                                                                                                  Midlife Oct 25, 2013 02:33 PM

                                                                                                                                                                  Hysterical! ;o]]]]

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