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NYC Little Italy - Best Pastry Shops?

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cruisingmickey Mar 6, 2012 10:08 AM

Hello,

Looking for an excellent pastry shop, with outdoor seating, for after dinner in Little Italy on a Friday night. Next day, we'll be heading out on a cruise.

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    kathryn RE: cruisingmickey Mar 6, 2012 10:11 AM

    When are you coming here? Any specific pastries that you like?

    Does it HAVE to be in Little Italy (which is very touristy)?

    Is outdoor seating a requirement? New York City weather can change at a moment's notice, so I wouldn't have my heart set on sitting outside.

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      cruisingmickey RE: kathryn Mar 6, 2012 10:18 AM

      The Friday of Memorial Day weekend. Really looking for a reasonably priced seafood/steakhouse or seafood/italian restaurant and then go out for some italian pastry and cappucino/espresso.

      Any suggestions?

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        kathryn RE: cruisingmickey Mar 6, 2012 10:42 AM

        "Reasonably priced" can mean a lot of different things, especially in Manhattan, where prices can be very high. If you can be a little more specific in terms of cost, that will help. How much are you thinking per person for food only (before tax, tip, wine/drinks)? $75pp? $50pp? Any specific neighborhoods?

        How about dinner at L'Artusi and then a cannoli at Rocco's afterwards? Though the desserts at L'Artusi are excellent as well.

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        Rocco's Pastry Shop
        243 Bleecker St, New York, NY 10014

        L'Artusi
        228 West 10th Street, New York, NY 10014

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          cruisingmickey RE: kathryn Mar 6, 2012 10:50 AM

          I'd say $75-100. Little Italy, Tribeca, Times Square, Greenwich Village - someplace romantic (honeymoon dinner before the cruise).

          Thanks

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            iluvcookies RE: cruisingmickey Mar 6, 2012 02:52 PM

            Kathryn has made an excellent suggestion, and for what you want it's hard to beat.

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              kathryn RE: cruisingmickey Mar 7, 2012 06:02 AM

              If you want somewhere romantic, I'd stay out of Times Square / Little Italy, in general.

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              foodwhisperer RE: kathryn Mar 6, 2012 09:05 PM

              Kathryn's suggestions are great, but they are in the West Village,not in Little Italy. Parts of Soho or Nolita are close enough to be considered Little Italy. In that case I would go to Osteria Morini and then go to Ceci Cela ( maybe 5 blocks to Litle Italy) afterward for great pastry. For actual little Italy locations, you can do Il Cortile or Angelo's and then go to Ferrara's or Cafe Roma for itlalian pastries.

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              Ceci-Cela
              55 Spring St, New York, NY 10012

              Angelo of Mulberry Street
              146 Mulberry St, New York, NY 10013

              Il Cortile
              125 Mulberry St, New York, NY 10013

              Ferrara
              195 Grand St, New York, NY 10013

              Caffe Roma
              385 Broome St, New York, NY 10013

              Osteria Morini
              218 Lafayette St, New York, NY 10012

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                kathryn RE: foodwhisperer Mar 7, 2012 06:00 AM

                Ceci Cela is French pastry, though.

                The OP followed up my neighborhood question with the answer "Little Italy, Tribeca, Times Square, Greenwich Village - someplace romantic (honeymoon dinner before the cruise)."

                I assumed they were OK with any neighborhood, as long as it felt romantic. I personally don't find walking around in Little Italy romantic AT ALL -- too crowded, too many shills standing outside each restaurant, who won't leave you alone if you accidentally make eye contact.

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                  foodwhisperer RE: kathryn Mar 7, 2012 10:33 AM

                  I agree with the overall opinion of Little Italy, but for tourists, it is a major attraction. I hate the shills, I hate the overly high Zagat ratings on the restaurants there. As far as pasty the OP wanted great pastry, i love Ceci Cela's pastry. As far as Italian pastry Rocco's is great. I used to be a big fan of Veniero's but not any more. I also like Rocco's gelato a lot. In response to another poster ( I didn't want to put multiple posts on the same topic) I totally enjoy Osteria Morini's food and service and am sorry RCC had 2 bad experiences there. I have never been to Peasant, but it sounds very interesting

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                  Rocco's Pastry Shop
                  243 Bleecker St, New York, NY 10014

                  Veniero's
                  342 E 11th St, New York, NY 10003

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                    Pan RE: foodwhisperer Mar 9, 2012 12:19 AM

                    I haven't been to Rocco's since before they renovated. I thought their Italian pastries were probably the best in Manhattan, but far from great. Have they been better since they reopened?

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                      iluvcookies RE: Pan Mar 11, 2012 02:49 PM

                      DH and I were at Rocco's earlier today. The cannoli, chocolate mousse and cappucino were excellent. My grandma speaks highly of their sfogliatelle. She should know--she is a 92 year old Italian woman who lives off pastry and black coffee.

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                        Pan RE: iluvcookies Mar 11, 2012 03:46 PM

                        And I'm a 47-year-old American, but I've been to Napoli, and more importantly, I've been to at least two pasticcerie in Brooklyn (Villabate and Rimini) that beat the crap out of Rocco's, or at least the Rocco's I remember from before the renovation. I've always considered Rocco's good, but not great; however, I did specifically include the possibility that they've improved since the renovation.

                        By the way, God bless your grandmother, and may she enjoy her pastries and coffee for many more healthy years!

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                          iluvcookies RE: Pan Mar 11, 2012 04:08 PM

                          I went to Villabate recently and thought the cannoli were OK. Are there better bakeries in Brooklyn and the Bronx? Sure, but Rocco's isn't bad by any stretch and Villabate has no seating.

                          I was being a little sarcastic with the grandma remark... being picky about pastry is what keeps her going :)

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                            Pan RE: iluvcookies Mar 11, 2012 04:12 PM

                            Well, we're in agreement now. But _has_ Rocco's in fact changed since the reopening?

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                              iluvcookies RE: Pan Mar 11, 2012 05:12 PM

                              Not sure... when did they renovate? I've always liked the place and have gone there off and on for the past 10 years or so.

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                                City Kid RE: iluvcookies Mar 12, 2012 10:05 AM

                                Not sure Rocco's exactly "renovated"; I recall seeing a health department notice on the door when they were closed :( But I do love the place, been going there for 30 years and will continue to patronize them! (The sfogliatelle are great but my favorite is the hazelnut quaresimale!)

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                  RCC RE: foodwhisperer Mar 7, 2012 06:44 AM

                  Never enjoyed the food and ambiance at Osteria Morini the only 2 times that we've been.

                  Actually still highly prefer Peasant in the area for good rustic Italian dishes and wines.

                  http://peasantnyc.com/

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                  Peasant
                  194 Elizabeth Street, New York, NY 10012

                  Osteria Morini
                  218 Lafayette St, New York, NY 10012

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                    Elliott Hurwitt RE: RCC Mar 13, 2012 09:55 AM

                    I've lived in Little Italy for 34 years and there is indeed a great dining experience in the neighborhood. It's called Chinatown.

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                      kathryn RE: Elliott Hurwitt Mar 13, 2012 10:08 AM

                      Ha!

                      Not exactly a romantic, pre-honeymoon dinner neighborhood (the OP's request), though.

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                        Elliott Hurwitt RE: kathryn Mar 13, 2012 11:24 AM

                        Oh, right, romantic. Well, been married so long we thought it was romantic to go to Old Szichuan the other night. But if it has to be Italian pastries in Little Italy, there's a nice room up the street from us at Caffe Roma, the pastries are par for the course around here, but it's the real deal, an old-school place that hasn't changed all that much. For romantic, if that means al fresco for you, there are better views and air than in Little Italy. For instance if the weather was fine, Gigino in Wagner Park. Food's okay, and you can't beat the view of the Statue of Liberty and NY harbor around sunset, especially if you're getting in the mood for a trip on the water.

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                        Gigino at Wagner Park
                        20 Battery Pl, New York, NY 10004

                        Caffe Roma
                        385 Broome St, New York, NY 10013

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