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Help ID Set Of Copper Pot And Pan Made In France

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Only the underside of the pan's handle is stamped with Made In France. Could not find any marks on the pot but maybe I've missed it or it's under some of the tarnished spots. I believe both pieces are set as they have the same style .
Any help will be welcomed - maker, age etc. Tin, nickel, stainless lining? Also, there is a small hole on the bottom of the pot's lining, how bad is that if selling the piece?
Thanks in advance!

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  1. Hi, kardinal:

    You've stumped me on the brand, but the embossing in the handle is unique enough that someone here might know. These appear to me to be medium to thin-weight pans made for the US export market at minimum expense (rolled rims, 2 rather than 3 rivets per handle, thin handles, very small rivet heads, etc.

    I'm also stumped as to the linings. They *look* like tin, but tin linings don't get *holes* in them liked this. I therefore think that the linings are likely aluminum or stainless steel. The handles are definitely brass. It is even theoretically possible that these are merely copper-plated pans, but if so they would feel very light.

    Unfortunately, IMO, the hole pretty much destroys the value of the one pan, although it probably is safe to cook in.

    I can give you a little better idea if you can share the dimensions and weight of the casserole, without the lid.

    Aloha,
    Kaleo

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    1. re: kaleokahu

      thanks for the reply. 8" in diameter at the opening, 2 3/4" tall. The pot is 7 1/4", 3 1/4" tall. Don't have them right know to put them on scale. Maybe in few days.
      Why tin does not get holes? Even if I hammer a nail? I mean maybe the crack was done not by just cooking in it.

      1. re: kardinal

        Hi, kardinal>

        Oh, you can poke or drill a hole through tin all right, but it's probably going to come right through the other side, at least creating a dimple in the soft copper. What I meant by tin not getting holes is that (a) it usually wears through in larger blurry areas; (b) when it flakes off from abusive high heat, it usually shows a wide *pattern* of blistering and flaking; and (c) it never looks like there's any depth to the hole.

        Your photo actually looks to me like there's been corrosion between what the liner metal is and the base metal. To me, this looks *chemically* rather than *mechanically* caused. It could be a drastic example of salt pitting.

        Aloha,
        Kaleo

    2. Hi kardinal and Kaleo,

      Kaleo, nice observations!!

      I agree with you, and believe these pans to be aluminum with a very thin copper outer coat (i guess analagous to copper plated aluminum).

      I once owned a pan from the same maker, though I agree, there is no maker's mark. Unfortunately, they are not so valuable if you intend to resell them. But, if you intend to use them, they should be more or less fine.

      alarash