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Mar 2, 2012 02:14 PM


I don't eat fish. My husband is a sushi snob ala Yasuda San in NYC.

We need to go to "the best" place where I can order something - veggie rolls, soup, tofu, noodles, seaweed, etc - and he can have a mind blowing LA sushi experience.

Staying in Beverly Hills - please help!!

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    1. re: Servorg

      I often have respect for Servorg's opinions. But I politely disagree. Kiriko might be in the top ten, but not even the top five. Mori and Sushi Zo.

      I like Kiriko, but I have a sushi snob friend who won't return. And the last time I went - the rice was undercooked. Fish was good though. The cook dishes were good, but I had fried oyster - and they weren't great. And when my friend saw them open a big jar of1st Mayo - he was turned off ("They should be making their own."). To me it's good "bargain" sushi. (relative to Mori and Zo.).

      1. re: foodiemahoodie

        i would agree w/your kiriko assessment, normally, however, i think servorg was adhering to the context of the OP's request where "veggies rolls, soup, tofu, noodles, seaweed, etc." can be ordered. while zo is most def great for sushi, the other items are not an option (save for the miso soup and uni noodles that are part of the omakase). mori has some cooked items, but i'm not sure whether u can simply order them a la carte.

        1. re: namstermonster

          Yes, a place that does only omakase will not work. What do you think about Asanebo or

          1. re: lavendula

            haven't been to takao. asanebo would probably be better overall, at least for the cooked dishes. as for the sushi, it's only decent, def not mind-blowing. however, that is my sentiment on kiriko as well. i think generally, you'll have to compromise the awesome sushi part if you're also searching for great cooked dishes. ;p

            1. re: lavendula

              I like Takao and lunch there often, but I think it is WAY over rated.

            2. re: namstermonster

              It's been a while Nami! Regarding Mori, yes, the non-sushi items can indeed be ordered a la carte.

              Other options that haven't been mentioned might include Aburiya Toranoko, n/naka, and Nozomi.

              1. re: kevin h

                Aburiya's izakaya offerings are fantastic, but the OP's sushi snob husband may not get a "snob-worthy" experience there.

                n/naka is set kaiseki, with focus on seafood - I'm almost afraid to ask Chef Niki to create a non-fish kaiseki for the OP...

                1. re: J.L.

                  you definitely can get "snob-worthy" sushi experience at Aburiya Toranoko served to you by the talented itamae Hisa-san ;)

                  Aburiya Toranoko
                  243 S. San Pedro St., Los Angeles, CA 90012

                  1. re: yinyangdi

                    The sushi at Aburiya Toranoko is "almost there", in my book. Maybe I'll go for sushi omakase there again soon to convince myself...

                  2. re: J.L.

                    Yeah, I think the only option that's *really* snob-worthy here would be Mori.

                    As for n/naka, I've heard that Chef Nakayama is quite flexible with her menu, and I know she has considerable facility with non-fish ingredients, so it might be an option.

                    1. re: kevin h

                      I don't get n/naka as a recommendation at all, though I think the food there is fabulous. The OPs husband wants sushi. At n/naka, one of the courses might be sushi and one might be sashimi. The fish will be unusual and very fresh, but it won't be a sushi experience. For the OP, n/naka makes very little sense either. Most of the dishes include fish or shellfish and, frankly, that's what Chef Nakayama excels in making. I'm sure she could do a non-fish menu, but why would the OP go there if other places fit the bill?

            3. re: Servorg

              I agree with Servorg. I had sushi at Kiriko on Thursday night and the fish was fantastic. Extremely fresh. The rice was cooked perfectly.

              We stuck to sushi only, but from past experience, the cooked foods at Kiriko always are excellent. They don't have many noodle options, but there is tremendous variety and the OP shouldn't have any problem finding excellent non-sushi options.

            4. Mori Sushi. Make a reservation, sit at the bar, do NOT sit at a table. I recommend the omakase at Mori. If you don't eat fish however, you may have to be elsewhere while he gorges, as Mori is very "fish-centric".

              If you must dine together (hehehe), then Hiko Sushi (a recent "discovery" of mine) may be a good bet:

              Hiko Sushi
              11275 National Blvd.
              Los Angeles, CA 90064

              (310) 473-7688

              For the record, I enjoy Kiriko immensely as well - Their sushi IS legit, as well as their cooked dishes. I think Servorg's recommendation of Kiriko is a proper and right fit for your & your spouse's dining needs.

              (All of the above sushi-yas are about 10-15 min. from Bev. Hills by car)

              Asanebo is a bit more of a shlep from Bev. Hills, and sushi is not really their strong suit. Takao is OK, but nothing to write home about, in my opinion.

              Good luck, and please report back!

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              1. re: J.L.

                Thank you all so much. I don't want to compromise the mind blowing sushi part. Maybe we will have to do a lunch? Does Mori Sushi do lunch? Will they mind if I sit and drink green tea, haha?

                I wouldn't dare go to Yasuda to sit at the bar and not order fish, so I'm a little scared!!

                It seems like their website is down: Does anyone have the menu?

                THANKS AGAIN :)!

                1. re: lavendula

                  Lunch at Mori is also sushi-centric. No joke: Mori may not have anything other than tea, beer, and sake for you, if you're not partaking in fish. Omakase IS the menu at Mori's sushi bar (whatever is available & fresh that particular day). Unfortunately, I doubt itamae Maru-san will let anyone sit at the bar and just have tea. Your fear of not ordering fish at Yasuda's bar should apply for Mori Sushi as well.

                  ... Which is why Kiriko is still on the table as a great option for both of you.

                  1. re: J.L.

                    Would sitting at the table be that bad?

                    1. re: lavendula

                      Just not an optimal experience. ... And you've come so far from NYC to eat here.

                      1. re: J.L.

                        It wouldn't matter where we sit at Kiriko?

                        1. re: lavendula

                          Not as much. You're good at a table at Kiriko.

                          The caveat is that any sushi experience is elevated by sitting at the sushi bar. If your husband is truly a sushi snob as you say he is, then you guys should sit at the bar (fear not, you can order your non-fish items from the menu while seated at Kiriko's sushi bar).

                2. re: J.L.

                  FYI I adore Hiko Sushi, it would be great for your husband but not so much for you. They have an extremely limited menu... possibly miso soup and maybe an avocado roll if I remember correctly (and I could be wrong.) Plus they are super strict and do not allow for any deviations from the menu. But the freshest fish on the west side... yum, I have to go back!

                  Good luck!

                3. Since you're staying in BH, I recommend these two sushi-ya:
                  (including links for photos for examples as both websites have been taken down...)

                  265 S Robertson Blvd, Beverly Hills, CA 90211
                  (310) 358-1900

                  7015 Melrose Sushi & Sake
                  7015 Melrose Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90038
                  (323) 933-6500

                  Kiyokawa Japanese Restaurant & Sushi Bar
                  265 S Robertson Blvd Ste 10, Beverly Hills, CA 90211

                  7015 Melrose Sushi & Sake
                  7015 Melrose Ave, Los Angeles, CA 90036

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                  1. re: yinyangdi

                    I really appreciate all of help :)

                    A friend of mine just suggested Sugarfish. I tried to look up the menu, which states that you CAN order ala cart, but it's not coming up...

                    1. re: lavendula

                      I am not a fan of Sugarfish at all. Not much to eat for a non-fish eater. You can do so much better elsewhere.

                      1. re: lavendula

                        If your husband likes great sushi then please don't come all this way and take him to Sugarfish...ala carte or not.

                        1. re: lavendula

                          while the fish is fresh, it is certainly NOT "mind blowing," but rather assembly line work done in the kitchen (at least at the downtown location) where they bring the plates so fast as to get you in/out in about 1/2-hour.

                          1. re: yinyangdi

                            100% agree. The fastest $40 meal you'll ever eat outside of McDonalds.

                          2. re: lavendula

                            I do takeout all the time from sugarFISH, and I like it (obviously), but alas, it's not a destination restaurant (here is a crappy photo of my takeout, for everyone's edification).

                            Again, you're flying all the way to LA to have great LA sushi, only to end up eating at our casual (but good) sushi place?

                          3. re: yinyangdi

                            I was a big 7015 fan for a while but now that the first two chefs have left it has taken a real nose dive in quality. I ate there last night and will not be back. I think it is about to go under.

                            1. re: Ciao Bob

                              What?! :( who is the 2d chef who left, Susumu and/or Sei?

                              1. re: yinyangdi

                                Susumu is now gone...not sure who Sei is.

                                1. re: Ciao Bob

                                  Both Susumu and Sei are both gone and along with them the delicious food they created themselves and carried on from Shunji.

                                  I feel like I have to find every post where I recommended 7015 and reply a retraction.

                                  1. re: yinyangdi

                                    Here's some good news yinyangdi - Shunji is back in business on Pico in the old Mr Cecil's Rib space. Intimate. Great. Get there before work gets out. Ooops, it just did.

                                    12244 West Pico Blvd LA 90064

                                    1. re: Ciao Bob

                                      ;) thank you for spreading the word!

                                      1. re: yinyangdi

                               is wiser to spread the word, than the wor"k" -- as I seem to have (mis)typed.

                                        1. re: Ciao Bob

                                          Sometimes the eye sees what it wants to as i did not read it as work but "word"... I had to re-read 03/10 msg to figure out 3/11's. ;)

                                          I did look up Shunji's new restaurant and, from what I read, it is still in the soft-opening stage. But, I was able to find some pictures of his recent dishes and they look delicious!

                          4. Take a look a Matsuhisa in Beverly Hills (not Nobu). That might work with something good for both of you.

                            129 N La Cienega Blvd, Beverly Hills, CA 90211

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                            1. re: wienermobile

                              Matsuhisa excels at Japanese-Peruvian fusion cuisine, and I love it love it love it, but straight -up sushi, while decent, is not their strong suit. Though I agree that the non-fish eater will have a great time there.

                              Why does everyone insist that it's a sushi restaurant (a la "... oh it's Japanese, therefore it MUST be sushi...")? Actually Matsuhisa is first and foremost a fusion restaurant at its core.

                              1. re: cls

                                You guys are the best, thank YOU! I will stay away from Sugarfish. I think Kiriko is gonna be it b/c I don't want to sit outside on the curb while hubs enjoys his omakase at Mori, haha.

                                As far as sushi snobbery goes, hubs would not bring me to Yasuda b/c he had his preferred seat at the bar and mentioned once to Yasuda-San that I didn't eat fish...and the answer was not pretty!

                                  1. re: lavendula

                                    i LOVE kiriko. i've done the omakase there 3 times and all three were just fantastic. i'm sure your hubby will enjoy it AND you can find something for yourself on the menu. i also think kiokawa would be a good choice but personally i enjoyed my time at kiriko more.

                                      1. re: ThatPat

                                        If I might hijack the thread a bit, Kiriko or Mori for a weekday lunch? Preferred focus would be on sashimi, but we like just about all Japanese food. Mori's website is down, making it hard to compare. And I know some Japanese spots have different offerings for lunch and dinner.


                                        1. re: RChicago

                                          i've only been to Mori once and it seemed fancy pants compared to Kiriko. both were excellent however if you want to go all out i'd go w/ mori. if you want something a bit more casual, i'd choose kiriko. just my opinion, not sure what others would say.

                                            1. re: RChicago

                                              I recall back in the day going to Mori for lunch and regretting it. Mori himself wasn't in the restaurant and frankly, the meal was mediocre. I ended up having a second lunch elsewhere. I did this twice at Mori before I wised up.

                                              1. re: choctastic

                                                Thanks, folks. And thanks to choctastic in particular about the lunch experience at Mori. As I mentioned, I'm concerned that lunch may be different from dinner, so your input is greatly appreciated. As we only have Sunday, Monday, and part of Tuesday in L.A. proper, I thought Tuesday lunch would be our best bet for fresh fish. But, of course, I'm interested in the best option. If anyone would recommend something other than Kiriko or Mori for a weekday sushi lunch, please let me know.

                                                Thanks again.