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mutti Feb 29, 2012 02:15 PM

Have been to your city several times but don't really know my way around or what different areas are called have managed to find all my stores with the help of my G.P.S,here are the places I'm going to Volpi's G&W Meat market,then on to the new Costco,plus to the new trader Joe's,what I'm needing to know is what is the new Costco area called??as I want to make Motel reservation's in that part of town.thanks .

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    FriendOfTheDevil RE: mutti Feb 29, 2012 06:06 PM

    If you are speaking about the Costco on Highland Blvd, it is in the city of Manchester. It is about a year and a half old but I can't think of a newer one. I live very close to there and can give you plenty of info on hotels and what not in the area. There are two Trader Joes pretty close to it.
    Volpi is on "The Hill".

    FOTD

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      STLLifer RE: FriendOfTheDevil Mar 1, 2012 07:44 AM

      Mutti, I went back and checked a thread from last year. I assume you are coming from Harrison AR again. Your best bet would be a hotel at Hwy 44 and 141. Costco is straight up 141 about 3 miles at Manchester Rd. Trader Joes is east on Manchester about 1 1/2 miles from Costco at the wedge when Manchester splits. Volpi's is straight in Hwy 44 about 10 miles and G & W is near the Hill as well. The munincipality for the Hotel is Fenton and I think it is a Hampton Inn but there are a few other within a mile or two of that intersection.

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        mutti RE: STLLifer Mar 1, 2012 12:09 PM

        Thank you for getting back to me, yes I'm the one coming from Harrison,Ar.Will make reservation's were you suggested.
        we will also go to the restaurants you recommended FriendOfTheDevil that you gave me on my last trip.I know Costco is a year and a half old but still new to me ha-haa.Can't wait to get to your city for we are really food challenged here.

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          ddfry3 RE: mutti Mar 1, 2012 05:43 PM

          If you are into Volpi I suggest even more highly Salume Beddu, one of the best salumerias around. Lauded nationally. You'll thank me later...

          Also, sandwiches at Adriana's on the Hill are not to be missed.

          http://www.salumebeddu.com/

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            STLLifer RE: ddfry3 Mar 1, 2012 08:51 PM

            ddfry3, I know a number of you on here will disagree but I wasn't that impressed with Salume Beddu. I went twice and didn't think there was a noticable difference between Bedu, Volpi and Oldani except maybe the price where Beddu was higher. Although stuck in West County, I hit the Hill about every other week for my fix of Missouri Bakery and then De Gregarios for sausage. I was really excited to try Beddu but after two tries last summer including six of their products I was underwhelmed plus their service was pretty poor as well. BTW DeGragarios was carrying an Oldani fennel salami that reminded me of salscicia that Oldani made special order for a restaurant but they got ahold of. Good stuff.

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              mutti RE: STLLifer Mar 2, 2012 10:11 AM

              Am so glad you mentioned DeGragarios have been wanting to try them,I think when I was at the hill they weren't open,I go to Volpi's mainly for the Italian sausage without the fennel seeds [do not like them] they do not exist here in Harrison nor Springfield,so I load up at volpi's,in your opinion are they better at DeGragarios???and do they have Mortadella lunch meat don't care for the one at Volpi,tell me what else they carry in the meat catagory?? I always go to the Missouri Bakery. Have also been to Adriana's good sand's.Do you think It's worth my while to go to Soulard's Farmers Market at this time of the year.???? Oh yes do you know if DEGragarios cry-vacs??

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                STLLifer RE: mutti Mar 2, 2012 03:00 PM

                Mutti, DeGregarios is an italian grocery that has a meat counter that carries Volpi, Oldani, Boars Head and a few other brands plus cheeses, canned goods, a huge selection of olive oil, etc. I go directly to Volpi if I want a whole sausage since pricing is a tad bit better but usually I get 1/2lb each sliced of a variety of meats so DeGregarios works out better. I'm not big on mortadella(forced to eat cheap bologna sandwiches as a child ruined it for me) so I'm not sure which brands they carry. I don't if they cryovac since I'm local. BTW if you like garlic, the regular Oldani sausage has a nice background garlic flavor. DeGregarios also makes a variety of uncured italian sausages in frozen packs as well as some pastas like cannelloni. The counter people are really nice and will be glad to let you try something if you express an interest or ask. I would suggest making DeGregarios your first stop to see if they fit your needs and then you can head down the block to Volpi or where ever else if you want whole sausages etc. BTW pretty good pricing and selection of San Marazano canned tomatoes but check the label to make sure you get the ones from Italy. G&W on the other hand is the best stop for a selection of bratwurst and a free Busch beer if you chug it really fast. Lastly, Soulard market this time of year is going to be pretty much the same produce as the supermarkets since most of it is trucked down from produce row. Oops that reminds me we do have a Penzeys Spice store in Maplewood now that might be worth a stop if you are into that. Plus there is a number of good restaurants right near Penzeys.

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                  tonifi RE: STLLifer Mar 2, 2012 03:55 PM

                  Just for search purposes, the store is DeGregorio's (with an 'o', not an 'a'): http://www.digregoriofoods.com/
                  If you go to Penzey's in Maplewood, there is a Vom Fass store just a few storefronts to the east that sells a variety of liquid things by the ounce...oils, vinegars, booze...pricey but worth if for small amounts of various things. They also let you sample before you buy, which is nice. If you are in Maplewood around lunchtime, Home Wine Kitchen (which I love) and The Schlafly Bottleworks (pretty good food, darn good beer) are right there. I really really love Soulard Market for all kinds of reasons (price, people-watching, variety) but this time of year your local stuff will be awfully limited, although there are vendors now who sell meats & cheeses and baked goods, which might be worth your while. Welcome back to St. Louis, we're glad you've chosen to visit again. I will be in your neck of the woods in a few weeks, we've got a ghost-hunting (stop laughing) trip planned and will be driving from Louisville (Waverly Hills Sanitarium) to Eureka Springs (the Crescent Hotel) on Monday...any quick ideas for a lunch stop before we get to Eureka Springs? We'll go out of our way for something interesting or particularly good!

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                    STLLifer RE: tonifi Mar 2, 2012 09:23 PM

                    Second on Home Wine Kitchen although I've only been there for their no menu Mondays a couple of times. Good call on Vom Fass, some nice flavored oils and vinegars. There is a cheesemaker from Illinois that makes some good herbed goat cheeses at Soulard but not sure if she is there in the winter.BTW toni, what kind of food goes with ghost hunting. I'm pretty good at theme menus for holidays and events but for the life or in this case death of me I can't think of what goes with ghost hunting. I guess some halloween stuff but that seems too cliche for serious ghost hunting.

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                      hill food RE: STLLifer Mar 2, 2012 09:45 PM

                      easier to find food that will turn you (prematurely) into a ghost.

                      it's funny a few years back I was watching one of those ghost hunter type shows with a friend from AR and they went to the Crescent in Eureka Springs and friend piped up "OMG we stayed there once!" but their stay had been before it was cool to be haunted (didja catch the one the other night when they did the Lemp Family Mansion and Restaurant?)

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                        tonifi RE: hill food Mar 3, 2012 10:09 AM

                        That episode, in fact, led to my staying at the Lemp Mansion. My companion-in-crime called me in a blind panic because she was afraid that the mansion's upcoming appearance on TAPS would mean that we might never again get the chance to stay there...great fun, although family-style fried chicken they served on Sunday night was not quite up to the lofty standards of my memory...we used to go there in the 90s for fried chicken & sides & LOVED it, this time there seemed a preponderance of canned vegetables in the meal...I am willing to accept the possibility that I am harder to please than I used to be. The B&B experience there is neat, though...you can pretty much roam around the whole place all night. As for ghost-hunting food, if I am to believe Jason Dawes (of TAPS), anything BUT green olives will do. Sorry, Mutti, we're running off subject to your question, here...I'm hoping you are in town this weekend, since the weather is so nice today. Much nicer to run around town when the sun is shining.

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                          hill food RE: tonifi Mar 3, 2012 11:38 AM

                          I think I've posted this before, my uncle used to take me to lunch there on occasion and since they were still renovating we were seated in the basement and he'd claim the pipes overhead were the ones someone used to hang himself (later I learned they were mostly (all?) gunshot suicides)

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                            mutti RE: tonifi Mar 4, 2012 01:01 PM

                            Sorry for not getting back sooner,not laughing,ha-ha as i also was thinking of one day taking the ghost tour just need to talk some friends into coming with me,but that will be after my trip to your city,which won't be till the 28th of this month, I want to be privy to some of the Holiday specials that Costco has around then.
                            Can't hardly help you on the Dining have gone to so many awful places for food that I totally have given up,but do have 2 that I really recommend,one is Lamert's Cafe in Ozark,Mo www.throwedrolls.com this place has been in several magazine's and on one of the cooking channels,don't remember which,food is huge don't pay attention when you go to their site about not being able to take doggy bags (not so) I never can finish my meal Ialways get the fried pork chops delish.
                            The other place is on the outskirts of Branson called Chateau On The Lake,www.chateauonthelake.com pictures really don't do it justice,we go for the Sunday brunch $30.00 not cheap but very good,but you dont have to go for brunch you can just park your car go in do your own little touring they have a sweet shop very reasonable ,downstairs one can get variable things at also good prices.I highly recommend going even if it takes you a little out of the but not much.You will relly enjoy Eureka springs can't help you out food wise but I hear that there arre many good restaurants,just do't go to De Vitos we have one here very overated they are know for their trout,even though the trout is good other food blah,once I orderd fried shrimp,I'm almost sure they bought frozen heavy on the breading,but enoughof that.do let us know of your trip and experience.Enjoy and thank you for your help along with everyone else.

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                        sueatmo RE: tonifi Mar 7, 2012 08:12 AM

                        Well enjoy Eureka Springs. I can't recommend a restaurant on your way from Louisville, but I can recommend the Grand Central Hotel restaurant for a meal in ES.

                        http://www.grandcentralresort.com/din...

                        We had a lovely meal there about 2 1/2 years ago. I've visited the Crescent Hotel but not a a guest. It is an old pile of a building that is interesting even in the light of day. I hope you see a ghost, if that is what you would like to do. Otherwise enjoy your ES experience.

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                      FriendOfTheDevil RE: mutti Mar 6, 2012 03:45 PM

                      Mutti,
                      I can't give you great advise on Soulard Market. But I will tell you this. An even BETTER reason to go to SM, is out the back and across the street.
                      Bogarts! Probably the best q in the city and some of the best q around at all

                      Trust me....

                      Go there... Then you can kill two birds with one stone...

                      The line moves fast so don't worry about that...

                      FOTD

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                        mutti RE: FriendOfTheDevil Mar 17, 2012 04:24 PM

                        FOTD.You made me change my plans entirely,Soulard Market now has to be my first stop,plus also Bogarts,from what I've seen on line the Market is awsome and a must see.Will give update when I get back.
                        Will also check out the hotels you gave me Doug.

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                          FriendOfTheDevil RE: mutti Mar 17, 2012 04:26 PM

                          Get to Bogarts early. I was there last Saturday at 2 ish. LONG line I waited in which I don't mind. ( 9 slabs left when I ordered my two to go.

                          I would get there when they open and then do the market to walk it off...

                          FOTD

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                            mutti RE: FriendOfTheDevil Mar 18, 2012 01:44 PM

                            I should be getting to the market around noon,hopefully that won't be too late.??

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            Doug RE: mutti Mar 7, 2012 07:34 AM

            For your hotel, at the intersection of I-44 and MO 141, there is a Hampton Inn and a Drury Inn.

            I have always been happy with my stays at Drury hotels.

            Not too far up 141 is a very nice frozen custard stand in Valley Park called Fritz's.

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              tonifi RE: Doug Mar 17, 2012 07:31 PM

              mutti, please let us know about your trip, I've really enjoyed your comments in the past.

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                mutti RE: tonifi Mar 18, 2012 01:42 PM

                Tonifi.You never did say did you go to Eureka Springs yet???Will give report on my trip,won't be going though till the 28th can't hardly wait, FOTD forced me to revise my trip, your Soulard Market just cannot be missed,saw some of the pictures on line,have never seen a market like this.

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                  hill food RE: mutti Mar 18, 2012 10:44 PM

                  on the expanded days it is indeed very cool. but if you ever make it to Baltimore ya have to hit the Lexington.

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                    FriendOfTheDevil RE: mutti Mar 19, 2012 08:02 AM

                    The market is very cool. I hesitated about offering info on it because the stuff there seems VERY perishable. So I don't know how long and to where you are traveling etc. But the market itself is still WAY cool.

                    I really suggest you eating first though....

                    DOn't miss the baked beans and the egg/potato salad at Bogarts. Both are FANTASTIC...

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                      mutti RE: FriendOfTheDevil Mar 19, 2012 12:17 PM

                      Am coming from Harrison,Ar will only be in your city 1 day first day will go to the stores to pay for the order's I placed, next day pick them up and home I go,I will be bringing a huuuuge cooler with the frozen jell packs.
                      I'm hoping though to find some birkshire pork at the farmers Market, if not,thats ok t oo,just to see the market will be an experience,I will go to Bogarts first,no tater salad though as I just made some,and still have some in fridge,ha-haa I also add eggs,make mine the german way as that's how my Mom taught me,will get the baked beans and slaw.

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                        mutti RE: FriendOfTheDevil Mar 19, 2012 12:26 PM

                        P.S FOTD.
                        I read some of your other blogs on Chinese Restaurants and the food,tell me do you check with them as to where they get their seafood from???
                        I for one dearly love chinese food but cant get a clear answer from our Restaurants here so I stopped going and have learned to cook my own,am curious what you have to say on the matter.[I do not buy seafood from ASIA] gotta be from our waters or Canada.Also good L:uck on your trip to Kansas

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                          FriendOfTheDevil RE: mutti Mar 19, 2012 03:55 PM

                          There are some things i don't think I want to know.... ; )

                          PS- You really need to try that tater salad. Eggs/Dijon/Dill....
                          Some of the best I have ever had....

                          When are you coming?

                          Have fun!

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                            STLLifer RE: FriendOfTheDevil Mar 21, 2012 08:42 PM

                            mutti, I don't remember if this was mentioned from your last trip but when you mentioned chinese cooking it reminded of Global Foods in Kirkwood. This is a large ethnic grocery that carries a huge selection of bottled and canned goods. There are about 3 aisles of Asian food sorted by regions as well as aisles for just about every region or country in the world. Also some really unusal fruits, veggies and root veggies in the produce section. It is located pretty close to your current travel routes. 1-2 miles North on Lindbergh from Hwy 44. Open from like 8am to 9pm (double check the hours) everyday. I doubt you have anything like it in Arkansas. I would put a link but never figured out how. Just google it and you can check on the details.

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                              hill food RE: STLLifer Mar 21, 2012 09:46 PM

                              Lifer - just open a new window, search, highlight and copy the URL and paste it here:

                              http://www.globalfoodsmarket.com/

                              some sites will let it be an active link, some won't

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                                sueatmo RE: STLLifer Mar 22, 2012 05:08 PM

                                Love Global Foods. Love it. Prepare to be overwhelmed by the rice.

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                                  mutti RE: STLLifer Mar 27, 2012 12:27 PM

                                  I did check out global food market on line,but my time In your city is very limited,unfortunately will have to head home the next day.I will try though.
                                  DOUG made reservations at the Drury that you recommened.
                                  Just one more request,am going to Trader Joe's on Olive Blvd are there any good grocer's near, on that strip???.

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                                    FriendOfTheDevil RE: mutti Mar 27, 2012 02:35 PM

                                    Directly across Craig Road assuming you are going to the one in Creve Coeur, is the better of the two local grocers, Dierbergs.

                                    FOTD

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                                      FriendOfTheDevil RE: mutti Mar 27, 2012 02:36 PM

                                      Did you see my note the other day?

                                      <PS- You really need to try that tater salad. Eggs/Dijon/Dill....
                                      Some of the best I have ever had....
                                      When are you coming?
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                                        wekick RE: FriendOfTheDevil Mar 27, 2012 05:08 PM

                                        Got to try that salad Friday and it was everything you said. For me it was the perfect amount of mustard-not overpowering. I love all kinds of potato salad so hard to say it is the "best" because I can't just pick one but it is in the upper echelon!
                                        We lucked out too NO line at high noon. after we sat down it was out the door. I love that place.

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                                          FriendOfTheDevil RE: wekick Mar 28, 2012 08:03 AM

                                          Awesome Wekick! Glad you tried it and liked it!

                                          Sounds like a great Friday lunch. Except. Guess where I ate lunch at on Friday???

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                                            wekick RE: FriendOfTheDevil Mar 28, 2012 08:29 AM

                                            Were you in KC?

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                                              FriendOfTheDevil RE: wekick Mar 28, 2012 09:23 AM

                                              Oklahoma Joes!

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                                                wekick RE: FriendOfTheDevil Mar 28, 2012 05:18 PM

                                                Can't wait to hear your report!

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                                                  FriendOfTheDevil RE: wekick Mar 29, 2012 10:48 AM

                                                  LOL. I wasn't planning on one but short and sweet. The Pulled pork is not better than Bogarts nor were the sides.
                                                  The Ribs though, probably the best I have ever eaten. They have much more of for lack of a better word, a "char" on them then you get slow smoking on the big smokers. Char in a good way. They reminded me much more of what I get out of my back yard. I think that is what Bogarts attemps to do by torching them in the end but OJ's were simply outstanding.

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                                                    wekick RE: FriendOfTheDevil Mar 29, 2012 02:54 PM

                                                    Just curious but which one did you go to? Also was wondering if you went to Julians. We were going to go there but it was restaurant week and a fixed menu and sometimes you don't get the real experience that way. Sorry to hijack.

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                                                      FriendOfTheDevil RE: wekick Mar 29, 2012 03:24 PM

                                                      We went to the Gas Station one. I had heard that was the one to go to plus I wanted to see that one. I did not end up going to Juians. The reviews left me unsure to be honest. I really like user reviews, but sometimes I don't... LOL

                                                      Something about the meat being the size of a diet brownie or something.... ; )

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                                          mutti RE: FriendOfTheDevil Mar 27, 2012 08:46 PM

                                          Am leaving around 6 a.m. this morning,okay you talked me in to the tater salad.
                                          thank you again everyone for all the good places to go to.
                                          St Louis here I come. ha-haaa.

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                                            FriendOfTheDevil RE: mutti Mar 28, 2012 08:03 AM

                                            We'll be waiting for the report!!

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                                              FriendOfTheDevil RE: mutti Apr 9, 2012 09:22 AM

                                              Mutti,
                                              I think you are over due?? ; )

                                              FOTD

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                                                mutti RE: FriendOfTheDevil Apr 9, 2012 12:51 PM

                                                Yes I know Im over due,due to the Easter Holiday,plus having to make extra shopping trip's to Springfield.ha-ha.Not as young as I'd like to be.
                                                My first stop was at the Soulard Farmers market,well I parked at the Jimmy Johns parking lot,forgot the name of the place you recommended,so I asked this man if the B.B.Q next to J.J was the famous B.B.Q restaurant he said It's famous alright but not for food ha-haaa so when I saw 7 soldiers going into the place I knew what he meant,ha-aaaa,you gotta remember I just drove 300 miles.
                                                Thought you might get a kick out of that.
                                                Loved the market but not much going on this time of the year ,which I didn't really expect,but I'm glad I saw It.
                                                Then finally found Bogarts,I got there just at the right time,not much of a wait for me but when I left a heck of a line,I had the pulled reg sandwich with theeee tatter salad and baked beans,glad I got the reg sand as I was only able to eat half,took the other half to my hotel room so had that for late night snack.And yes Bogarts was everything you said it was and then some.
                                                the rest of my time in your city was pretty much uneventful as I had to get my groceries to come home the next day ,my little malteese had to get a little
                                                snip surgery,so I didn't want to be away too long.
                                                Stayed at the Drury Hotel at exit 141 also very nice,then to the hill,went to both Italian makets,but I must say I do still preferr Volpi's then also went to the bakery which is always a must stop for me, plus of course my Costco which never disappoints,after seeing all the holiday specials they carry ,It made me sick to see that Sam's Club carried no specials whatsoever,but alas we have to maintain the card as no Costco in Springfied.
                                                All in all I loved my time in your city,but you all can keep your traffic. ha-aaa.
                                                BEing from Miami origanally I used to be used to that I allways called 95 the foo maan cho trail.ha-haa. thanks again everyone.

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                                                  FriendOfTheDevil RE: mutti Apr 9, 2012 01:52 PM

                                                  Thanks! Glad you had a good time!

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