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Susan56 Feb 29, 2012 01:21 PM

My husband and I will be visiting Berlin for this first time in just about 3 weeks. We are looking for some help with restaurant suggestions. I have been reading posts on this board as well as looking in guidebooks and on zagat. but I am not sure that my choices are good ones.

We love fine dining - however while traveling we want to keep it more on the casual vs. "stuffy" or "formal" side. And we also don't want to spend a fortune on each meal. And while we do want to try German food; we do prefer our food to be lighter, perhaps more continental And while my husband does eat meat, I rarely do, preferring fish instead. We would also like to avoid touristy places. I think that means that we will not be eating dinner hear our hotel! we are staying at the Grand Hyatt (I managed to get the rooms for free!) and I know that is a touristy area. So, can you look at the list I have and let me know what you think? Are there some I should drop? Others I should add? I much appreciate any help I can get:

Horvath
Remake
Sale e Tabacchi
Hartmanns
Maxwell
Sage
Reinstoff
Bocca di Bacco
Aigner
Renger-Patzsch - this looks to be particularly good
Lutter & Wegner
Ottenthal
Leibnitz-Klause
Neubau
Noi Quattro
Bandol sur Mer

And I would also appreciate advice on a good time to have dinner. We are used to eating late - 8:30, 9:00, later. is that best? We would prefer to be at restaurants when they are bustling.

Thank you so much,
Susan

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  1. linguafood RE: Susan56 Feb 29, 2012 02:02 PM

    Hi Susan,

    First of -- great list. Someone did their homework '-D

    I'd drop the following:
    Sale e Tabacchi -- go to Noi Quattro instead
    Maxwell
    Sage
    Bocca di Bacco
    Aigner
    Lutter & Wegner
    Ottenthal
    Leibniz-Klause
    Bandol

    All others are great options for fine / high-end & moderate German dining.

    Maybe look into Weinbar Rutz, too, for a blow-out meal? None of the high-end restos you mention -- such as Remake, Reinstoff & Hartmanns don't have a dress code and are pretty relaxed.

    Generally, Germans eat anywhere between 8-10, so you should be good!

    Please feel free to ask follow-up questions and/or peruse my blog (on my profile).

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      Susan56 RE: linguafood Mar 1, 2012 01:24 PM

      Thanks! - so now here is my list:

      Horrvath - I can't get an English version of the menu but it looks very good and review in Bruni article was wonderful

      Remake
      Hartmanns
      Reinstoff
      Renger-Patzsch
      Neubau - again, I can't get an English menu
      Noi Quattro

      While Weinbar Rutz looks wonderful I am just not inclined to spend that much on one meal! Especially with all of these other choices - but I could change my mind.

      So, we only have 5 nights in Berlin - knowing what I told you about our taste (food on the lighter side - and fish for me) which would ou chose? I am inclined to go with:

      Reinstoff
      Hartmanns
      Rengarer-Patzsch

      But not sure which others to choose - and there is always Weinbar Rutz as well! I may be talking myself into it.

      Susan.

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        linguafood RE: Susan56 Mar 2, 2012 08:25 AM

        Ok. Reinstoff is a modernist restaurant - if that floats your boat, go for it. I personally haven't been, but have heard good things about it. It's also very unstuffy, so you might like that.

        Hartmanns is less experimental, but very solid on flavors & ingredients, it also won't break the bank.

        Renger-Patzsch is likely the most pedestrian and more moderately priced of the bunch, and not always on the lighter side. That said, I have never had a meal there I didn't love.

        Neubau is Hartmanns other, more casual place, but the location is prettty awful -- just FYI if atmosphere is important to you. I am amazed they don't have an English menu, but then Hartmanns only recently added an English menu (rather obviously and badly translated in-house).

        OTOH, it's in the Bergmannstrassen area where there are a bunch of bars to choose from for an aperitif or digestif -- I'd recommend Bar Nou.

        All of these restaurants will have at least 2 fish dishes on their menu. Of course, there's always Fischer's Fritz..... but that'll set you back *quite* a bit. Maybe check out their lunch deal & be careful with the wine orders. They can add up and the deal is no longer a deal '-)

        Guten Appetit!

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          Susan56 RE: linguafood Mar 2, 2012 09:37 AM

          Well, not not sure what to do. I do like modernistic so I think Reinstoff is definitily in.and I have read a lot of good thinks about Hartmann's and Renger Patzsch so I am for putting them on my list as well.

          What are your thoughts on Remake? And I do like a nice atmosphere - so another choice - I have 5 nights in Berlin. Maybe something between these and Fischer's Fitz in price???

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            Susan56 RE: Susan56 Mar 2, 2012 09:49 AM

            oops, I forgot to add Horvath back in. I think that looks very good.

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              Susan56 RE: Susan56 Mar 2, 2012 01:41 PM

              I think I am finally making some decsions here - my concern is that I do like more modern places and especially more modern (I guess read that as "lighter", and more fish on the menu) places. So, that being said, and wanting to eat at really good places in Berlin and not break the bank - how about this list for my five:

              Noto
              Remake
              Reinstoff
              Renger-Patzsch
              Hartmanns

              or do I swap in Horvath for one of these???

              Help! would love some comments,

              Susan
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                linguafood RE: Susan56 Mar 2, 2012 04:06 PM

                I don't think Noto is worth it. I saw Bruni's write-up on it -- it's just ok. So I suppose you could swap in Horvath for one of these.

                Did you take Noi Quattro completely off of your list? It's a *really* good Italian place.

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                  Susan56 RE: linguafood Mar 3, 2012 11:50 AM

                  I have decided on 4 of the 5 restaurants for our trip:

                  Horvath
                  Hartmanns
                  Reinstoff
                  Remake

                  I think I would like to find another choice like Reinstoff and not for that much more money - any suggestions?
                  Would Maxwell fit the bill? Noi Quattro does look good - would you choose that one? We love Italian food, but recently were in Sicily for 2 weeks - so not sure if we should travel to Berlin for more Italian food.

                  Susan

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                    linguafood RE: Susan56 Mar 3, 2012 02:20 PM

                    How about Dos Palillos in Mitte?

                    Funny about Sicily - I'm considering a trip to Sicily or Sardinia and having the hardest time deciding where to go.... nice problem to have I guess '-)

                    Where in Sicily did you stay? Can you recommend it?

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                      Susan56 RE: linguafood Mar 4, 2012 11:50 AM

                      Hi,
                      I think I messed up. I think I do have 5 restaurants:

                      Horvath
                      Remake
                      Hartmanns
                      Renger-Patzsch
                      Reinstoff

                      From what I have said - describing what we like - do you think we would prefer Dos Palillos over one of those on this list?

                      As for Sicily - we loved it! We had been to Italy a few times before but this was our first trip to Sicily. We stayed just in Sicily for 2 weeks. We moved around a bit and I can recommend all of our hotels save one. Here are the ones I liked:

                      Palermo - Grand Hotel Plaza Borsa
                      Taormina - Villa Ducale
                      Siracuse/Orgigia - Agila Ortigia Charme
                      Agrigento - Villa Athena

                      Sicily is a great place to visit - we had a blast, great food, amazing scenery and the Greek and Roman temples and amphitheaters - a great vacation.

                      Susan

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                        suzieq4 RE: Susan56 Mar 4, 2012 06:03 PM

                        Susan,
                        Sorry to join in on this so late. We ate at Reinstoff for Christmas Eve 2010. It was outstanding. Renger Patzsch was also very wonderful - low key but now it has a one star. I keep getting emails from the Duke Restaurant in the Ellington Hotel. It looks very modern and hip. I wish we had eaten there. You might want to look at their menu. It is near Savignyplatz. We also ate at Thieles which is in that general area. It has lighter foods and while it is German food it has pasta and vegetarian options. Lutter and Wegner at Savignplatz is independent of the other Lutter and Wegners and has wonderful weinerschnitzel and a great wine list. It is much better than the other Lutter and Wegners who are owned by someone else. This was the original Lutter and Wegner.

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