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Help--which of these are NOT kid friendly??

We are traveling up to NYC for a long weekend. We have two girls, 6 and 2.5 and we LOVE to go out to eat. Generally, they are very well behaved, we can usually find something to eat for them off the menu, no kids menu required. However, one of them is 2.5 and that can sometimes be unpredictable. We will take them out if they are not using their manners--but its better to go somewhere where it is a bit noisier and less formal--we've had great luck at Balthazar and Craft Bar. We typically eat very early--5:30 or 6:00 to avoid the main dinner hour and so the girls aren't over tired or over hungry.

We've compiled a wishlist--but before I start tracking down reservations, I'd like to know if there are any we should absolutely avoid or any that are strongly recommended.

The Dutch
Prune
Gramercy Tavern
Colicchio & Sons
Peasant
The Spotted Pig
Milk Bar
Maialino
Public
Saxon &Parole
The Breslin
Raos
Frankies Spuntino
Tocqueville

Thanks for any advice--

Two hungry parents

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  1. I haven't been to every restaurant on your list (6/14), but the only one that jumps out at me as child inappropriate is Tocqueville. I haven't been in a while, but I remember the dining room being quite hushed and formal. And Rao's has a reputation for being an impossible reservation if you don't have a connection - not just difficult, but actually impossible. Otherwise, I think if you stick to your early-dining plan, you should be fine with the kids.

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    Tocqueville
    1 East 15th Street, New York, NY 10003

    Rao's
    455 E 114th St, New York, NY 10029

    1. i think prune is so small that it would definitely uncomfortable with kids.

      tocqueville...very quiet and somber place...may also be awkward.

      ive had dinner at the dutch with my girlfriend next to some kids...really ruined our meal but the place is loud enough for it to work.

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      Tocqueville
      1 East 15th Street, New York, NY 10003

      Prune
      54 E 1st St, New York, NY 10003

      The Dutch
      131 Sullivan St, New York, NY 10012

      1. Rao's and Tocqueville would not be appropriate

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        1. re: bronwen

          Last time I went to Gramercy Tavern , there were people at a table with young kids. I have gone to Gotham with young kids. But a place like Pastis, Balthazar, Buddakan, Odeon, Pulino, would be better than your list. So you don't have to worryt hat the kids get out of hand.
          Rao's you don't have to think about. You're not getting in. If you were invited and could get in, they won't mind the kids.

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          Gramercy Tavern
          42 E 20th St, New York, NY 10003

          Buddakan
          75 9th Ave, New York, NY 10011

          Rao's
          455 E 114th St, New York, NY 10029

          Pastis
          9 9th Ave, New York, NY 10014

          Balthazar
          80 Spring St, New York, NY 10012

          Gotham Bar and Grill
          12 East 12th Street, New York, NY 10003

          Odeon
          145 W. Broadway, New York, NY 10013

          Pulino's
          282 Bowery, New York, NY 10012

        2. I'd probably take Grammercy Tavern and Colicchio and Sons off the list as well. It's not exactly that they are quiet and hushed - but they don't strike me as being exactly "friendly" towards a 2.5 yo.

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          Gramercy Tavern
          42 E 20th St, New York, NY 10003

          Colicchio & Sons
          85 10th Ave, New York, NY 10011

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          1. re: edwardspk

            I agree, though the Tap Room at Colicchio and Sons might work if the OP plans to dine early.

            To the OP: Milk Bar does not take reservations. The Dutch is typically half empty at 5:30 or 6:00 so I think it would be fine to bring your kids there.

            1. re: peter j

              Also Milk Bar is primarily takeout, so keep that in mind. No seating, really at the East Village or Midtown locations. Not sure about the UWS one.

              Note also that Gramercy Tavern has the formal dining room AND the more casual Tavern Room (that doesn't take reservations). I can see kids aged 6 and 2.5 having an early 5pm dinner in the Tavern Room. Not really the dining room.

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              Momofuku Milk Bar
              251 E 13th St, New York, NY 10003

              Momofuku Milk Bar
              15 W 56th St, New York, NY 10019

              Momofuku Milk Bar
              561 Columbus Ave, New York, NY 10024

              1. re: kathryn

                The UWS milk bar has little block stools that would probably be more comfortable for the little ones than the adults.

                I don't know what the Breslin will be like at 5:30 but I found the staff there incredibly uncommunicative re wait times (which was no fun when we were waiting with our then- two year old amidst the very noisy brunch crowd, but may not be an issue for early dinner).

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                The Breslin
                20 W 29th St, New York, NY 10001

                Momofuku Milk Bar
                561 Columbus Ave, New York, NY 10024

          2. Hmmm, a 2 1/2 yr old dining out. Invokes terror. I know, I know, yours will be quietly doing the NYT crossword. In Mandarin. ;)

            (Just kidding ... Posts re: kids and dining can get out of hand on here.)

            The Dutch - at 5.30 will be empty so OK
            Prune - NO, too small
            Gramercy Tavern - NO
            Colicchio & Sons - - at 5.30 should be OK; food not so great IMO
            Peasant - - at 5.30 will be empty so OK - but acoustics could make a 2 yr old screamer painfully loud
            The Spotted Pig - NO, a you'll prob have a long wait no matter what time
            Milk Bar - YES
            Maialino - - at 5.30 will be OK
            Public - - at 5.30 will be OK - but place has a young, clubby feel so I'd be bummed seeing a kid there.
            Saxon &Parole - - Leaning towards NO, but at 5.30 will be empty so OK.
            The Breslin - hmmm. I'd say NO/Maybe. Is pretty loud though.
            Raos - HAHAHAHAHAHA That's a joke right? You aint gettin in.
            Frankies Spuntino - - at 5.30 will be OK
            Tocqueville - NO

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            Gramercy Tavern
            42 E 20th St, New York, NY 10003

            Frankies 17 Spuntino
            17 Clinton St, New York, NY 10002

            Spotted Pig
            314 W 11th St, New York, NY 10014

            Tocqueville
            1 East 15th Street, New York, NY 10003

            Rao's
            455 E 114th St, New York, NY 10029

            Peasant
            194 Elizabeth Street, New York, NY 10012

            Public
            210 Elizabeth Street, New York, NY 10012

            Prune
            54 E 1st St, New York, NY 10003

            Momofuku Milk Bar
            251 E 13th St, New York, NY 10003

            The Breslin
            20 W 29th St, New York, NY 10001

            Maialino
            2 Lexington Avenue, New York, NY 10010

            Colicchio & Sons
            85 10th Ave, New York, NY 10011

            The Dutch
            131 Sullivan St, New York, NY 10012

            Frankies 570 Spuntino
            570 Hudson St, New York, NY 10014

            Saxon + Parole
            316 Bowery, New York, NY 10012

            3 Replies
            1. re: thegforceny

              Agree with this completely - except if you do the Tavern Room at Gramercy Tavern you'll be fine at 5:30 with the kids - just not in the formal dining room. You don't need a reservation for the Tavern Room.

              1. re: gutsofsteel

                Thank you GoS - I'll agree with your Tavern Room assessment as well.

                1. re: gutsofsteel

                  I think you'll be fine at Gramercy in the front, especially early. In the more formal back section would be a bit iffy. . . .