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Best place for Dim Sum? {also Sushi, San Francisco]

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Lillieintexas Feb 22, 2012 10:13 PM

..will be in SF in a couple weeks and looking for suggestions; also sushi, thanks!!

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    goldangl95 RE: Lillieintexas Feb 22, 2012 10:37 PM

    Recent Sushi Thread:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/810927

    Recentish Dim Sum Thread (be aware that the within SF city limits dim sum restaurants have been slowly fading - Yank Sing is on the pricey side but is probably the most consistent):
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/316011

    Recent Dumpling Thread:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/831046

    If you have further questions, let us know.

    1. Robert Lauriston RE: Lillieintexas Feb 23, 2012 10:23 AM

      Yank Sing's the best. Tips for a first-timer:

      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/7321...

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        pinotho RE: Robert Lauriston Feb 23, 2012 12:08 PM

        +1 for Yank Sing.......

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          Bayareafoodiei RE: pinotho Feb 23, 2012 12:32 PM

          Is one location better then the other?

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            Robert Lauriston RE: Bayareafoodiei Feb 23, 2012 12:39 PM

            Quality's the same. Selection might be bigger at Rincon, which has validated parking, free on weekends and $4 on weekdays.

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              Bayareafoodiei RE: Robert Lauriston Feb 24, 2012 05:23 AM

              Thanks, we are vacationers and will be eating there next Thursday or Friday afternoon.

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                walker RE: Bayareafoodiei Feb 27, 2012 05:44 PM

                I always go to the Rincon location (Spear/Mission). They take reservations, close at 3 or 4. Best to go no later than 1 because they start running out of things. Sit inside, not in lobby part, because carts cruise there first after exiting the kitchen. I always get the shrimp dumplings. Don't get too much at a time since they keep coming by with fresh stuff.

                Yank Sing is worth the extra cost. It's twice as good as The Kitchen and Ton Kiang and Asian Pearl.

                If you're willing to take a streetcar (L Taraval) go to Dumpling Kitchen,
                1925 Taraval (bet. 29th & 30th Ave) -- closed on Wed. Terrific soup dumplings (# 1), and # 8 is my favorite: steamed pork dumplings with chili oil. Delicious food, generous portions, small price. (They don't close between lunch and dinner!)

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              steve h. RE: Bayareafoodiei Feb 23, 2012 01:10 PM

              The Stevenson Street shop works if you're a FiDi week-day worker bee. It's fast and tasty. Rincon Center gets the weekend nod from me since it's the Mother Ship and, more importantly, attached to the beautiful old post office. You can do a lot worse than enjoying dim sum on Saturday/Sunday morning at the Rincon Center.

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                Robert Lauriston RE: steve h. Feb 23, 2012 01:59 PM

                I'd call Stevenson the mothership. Yank Sing moved there in 1974 from its second Broadway location. They opened a second location on Battery in 1981. They opened Rincon 1999 because the Battery building was sold and they lost their lease. For a couple of years they had all three locations.

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                  steve h. RE: Robert Lauriston Feb 23, 2012 02:22 PM

                  Genetically, perhaps (I wasn't aware of the chronology).
                  Rincon is now the mothership.

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          sfbing RE: Lillieintexas Feb 23, 2012 01:21 PM

          If you are looking for:

          decent, unadventurous dim sum in a nice environment with good service and prices to match: Yank Sing at Rincon or Ton Kiang

          basic affordable dim sum near Chinatown: City View

          dim sum near attractions at Golden Gate Park: South Sea Seafood Village

          hard core dim sum with a huge wait in the City: Hong Kong Lounge

          hard core dim sum with a huge wait that needs a car: Koi Palace

          dim sum near the airport: Hong Kong Flower Lounge or the Kitchen or Asian Pearl (furthest from airport, but IMO least MSG)

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            Robert Lauriston RE: sfbing Feb 23, 2012 02:01 PM

            Yank Sing's better than Koi Palace and no less adventurous or hardcore.

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              sfbing RE: Robert Lauriston Feb 23, 2012 02:35 PM

              There is no tripe at Yank Sing. There is no ngau jaap, or beef offal mix. There is no pork's blood. There are no shark fin soup dumplings. There aren't any lava buns. There aren't even custard buns. There aren't chicken feet, neither steamed or pickled. There are no chiu chow dumplings. There is no pigs feet. There is no jellyfish. There is no daikon cake or taro cake. There are no steamed meat balls or spareribs. They have no cheung fun, which is an entire dim sum station by itself. Nor can you order ala carte noodle/soup/rice dishes to pad out your meal which most dim sum places usually have. Also, I haven't seen the (uncommon in other dim sum restaurants) lobster dumpling, goldfish dumpling, chicken lotus root cake, or curried chicken turnover described on their menu.

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                Robert Lauriston RE: sfbing Feb 23, 2012 03:36 PM

                Yank Sing has cheung fun (one of my regular items), jellyfish, chicken feet, custard buns, meatballs, spare ribs, and a few kinds of noodles. No taro cake (which I thought really sucked at Koi Palace) or daikon cake, but the best turnip cake and taro dumplings. I've had the curry chicken turnovers though I don't recommend them.

                Unimpressed by Koi Palace: http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5843...

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                  nocharge RE: sfbing Feb 23, 2012 03:51 PM

                  No sure how current this Yank Sing menu is, but it has a bunch of the items that you say don't exist.
                  http://sanfrancisco.menupages.com/res...
                  Plus you can order items a la carte that are not on the menu. Take their beef or seafood chow mein, for instance. It will set you back $15-20, but you have to know that you can order it since it's considered a special order.

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                    sfbing RE: nocharge Feb 23, 2012 04:27 PM

                    Sorry--apparently you can get some of the things I listed (although still not much offal). I still maintain that the selection is significantly limited compared to Hong Kong Lounge and the big places outside of the city.

                    Robert-that turnip cake is probably daikon cake. And the steamed daikon cake at Koi Palace makes special for New Year's is killer.

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                  chefj RE: Robert Lauriston Feb 23, 2012 04:22 PM

                  Yank Sing is not better than K.P. in my opinion. And the menu is very tame not to mention overpriced.

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                    goldangl95 RE: chefj Feb 23, 2012 04:30 PM

                    To the Original Poster, to be clear Koi Palace is NOT in San Francisco but to the South. It's about a 15 minute drive without traffic (depending where you are).

                    Yank Sing benefits from still having carts, having good service, and seating people in an orderly way within an hour of approaching (even on weekends at peak times). Also depending on where you are staying, Yank Sing is closer to Union Square/Financial District/SOMA .

                    If you don't need the above things, or have plenty of Dim Sum where you are at, maybe Hong Kong Lounge for the more exotic. As a visitor, however, it may be more hassle than its worth if you just need the basics.

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                      chefj RE: goldangl95 Feb 23, 2012 05:47 PM

                      Agreed, it just the statement of opinion as fact that bugs me.
                      I was not replying to the OP
                      My pick in the city would Mayflower on Geary at 27th?
                      Seating is orderly, tray service and great variety without being silly i.e. curry flavor dumplings with yellow wrappers or "lobster" dumplings with almost no lobster and reddish wrappers.
                      Servers are friendly, very good quality and fairly priced.

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                        Robert Lauriston RE: chefj Feb 23, 2012 05:55 PM

                        It's common for people here to phrase their opinions as statements of fact. You just did so yourself.

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                  Windy RE: sfbing Feb 23, 2012 08:50 PM

                  City View is better than basic. Also better than Ton Kiang.

                  And for the sake of completeness I'll add:

                  S&T Seafood on Noriega at 33rd, my regular spot, which is always excellent and inexpensive. Not as stellar as Asian Pearl in Millbrae, my favorite in that area. Not convenient for tourists unless you're going to Golden Gate Park or the Zoo.

                  Tai Wu on the hill in Daly City is fun and excellent. Always crowded, requires a car.

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                  City View Restaurant
                  662 Commercial St, San Francisco, CA 94111

                  S&T Hong Kong Seafood Restaurant
                  2578 Noriega St, San Francisco, CA 94122

                  Tai Wu/Mr. Fong
                  950 King Plz, Daly City, CA 94015

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                    Crunchyapple RE: Windy Feb 27, 2012 06:23 PM

                    +1 for City View in the chinatown area.

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                    City View Restaurant
                    662 Commercial St, San Francisco, CA 94111

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                  sfbing RE: Lillieintexas Feb 23, 2012 05:31 PM

                  I found this link, which you might find helpful since it provides a short description, pics, and most useful of all, ADDRESSES.

                  http://blogs.sfweekly.com/foodie/2012...

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                    Lillieintexas RE: Lillieintexas Feb 24, 2012 03:16 PM

                    Thanks for all the suggestions, y'all! I believe we are staying in the Financial District (Hyatt Regency)... Any other restaurant, bars, must-see and/or fun things to do suggestions are welcome!! I am so looking forward to the trip!!!!

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                      steve h. RE: Lillieintexas Feb 24, 2012 03:41 PM

                      The Hyatt Embarcadero is an excellent location: street cars, busses, cable cars, BART, etc. are all at your doorstep, not to mention walking to the Ferry Plaza, Yank Sing and so on. You've hit a mass-transit home run. Buy a Muni Passport at the Ferry Plaza and the whole city will be your oyster (London mass transit pun intended).

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                        wolfe RE: steve h. Feb 24, 2012 03:52 PM

                        Ah yes the London mass transit, a transport of delight.
                        http://members.optusnet.com.au/pennyw...

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                          steve h. RE: wolfe Feb 24, 2012 04:16 PM

                          Yes, but an Oyster Card lends order and dignity to what otherwise would be a bloody transit brawl.

                          Lillie should know that Perbacco/Barbacco are well within walking distance of the Hyatt. Tadich and all of Belden Place, too. Over to Jackson Square is Cotogna. Walking to Bix is not a stretch. Lunch, upstairs in the bar at Epic Roasthouse, has views and good value, Waterbar, next door, has a zinc bar with views. Pier 23 has drinks, music and a honky-tonk vibe. House of Shields is a loud bar with history. The list goes on.

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                          goldangl95 RE: steve h. Feb 24, 2012 04:25 PM

                          The Ferry Building/Plaza that Steve H. mentioned has an awesome Farmers Market on Saturdays before 1 pm. Great way to experience California produce and walking distance from where you are staying.

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                        maigre RE: Lillieintexas Feb 24, 2012 03:53 PM

                        Anyplace in Milpitas with dim sum worthy of comparison to the better SF/Millbrae spots?

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                          drewskiSF RE: maigre Feb 24, 2012 03:59 PM

                          Mayflower on Geary that's been mentioned has an outpost in Milpitas in the 99 Ranch strip mall.
                          http://www.yelp.com/biz/mayflower-res...

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                            Robert Lauriston RE: maigre Feb 25, 2012 01:28 PM

                            Lots of reports here on dim sum in and around Milpitas:

                            https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid...

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                            airflux RE: Lillieintexas Feb 25, 2012 06:27 PM

                            Yank Sing is overpriced and not good. To that, skip dim sum in anywhere close to chinatown or financial district. Have had dim sum everywhere in this city, almost every metro city in US, Canada and southern China/HK.

                            Busiest convenient good place is Hong Kong Lounge on Geary, best place/most consistent is S&T (also filled with the most SF Chinese regulars). Best place south of city is The Kitchen in Millbrae. Safe and popular bet is Koi Palace in Daly City.

                            Some other decent or places in SF: South Seas, Mayflower,
                            Avoid: Yank Sing, Ton Kiang

                            There are some variations on dim sum styles as well between restaurants and province styles, but thats another story for another day.

                            1. chefj RE: Lillieintexas Feb 26, 2012 10:10 AM

                              Really this topic has been discussed to death on these boards and every one has their personal favorites and many restaurants excel at some item and fall down on others. Here are just a few links to the other threads addressing Dim Sum.
                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/316011
                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/825734
                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/801496
                              http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/805063

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                                Robert Lauriston RE: chefj Feb 26, 2012 10:38 AM

                                Old topics become less useful as places come and go or their quality goes up or down. For example, Y Ben House has closed, Hong Kong Flower Lounge went downhill, and Hong Kong Lounge improved after changing hands in 2008. About the only thing that's constant is that people who don't eat at Yank Sing or Ton Kiang have a lot to say about them.

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                                  chefj RE: Robert Lauriston Feb 26, 2012 11:07 AM

                                  And so do those that do.

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                                    ChowFun_derek RE: chefj Feb 27, 2012 08:23 AM

                                    The difference being that the opinion of those who frequent a restaurant are more valid than those who don't!

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                                      chefj RE: ChowFun_derek Feb 27, 2012 03:29 PM

                                      I did not ask what the difference was. Nor did I ask about what robert though about constants in dim sum restaurants in the bay area.

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                                        Windy RE: ChowFun_derek Feb 27, 2012 05:12 PM

                                        How so? Repeat patrons are by definition people who like a restaurant. People who dislike a restaurant are unlikely to return many times unless someone else insists on going there.

                                        I've eaten at Yank Sing too many times--and still find it overrated and overpriced.

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                                          ChowFun_derek RE: Windy Feb 28, 2012 08:51 AM

                                          Since you have experienced a restaurant..a review from you, whether positive or negative would hold more value than one from someone who has never...or not recently visited a restaurant.

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                                            chefj RE: ChowFun_derek Feb 28, 2012 10:13 AM

                                            How do you know when a poster or how ofter they have been to a place unless they state it?

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                                      chefj RE: Robert Lauriston Feb 27, 2012 03:39 PM

                                      All the treads listed were less than a year old except one.

                                  2. wolfe RE: Lillieintexas Feb 26, 2012 10:33 AM

                                    Sushi Aka Tombo.
                                    http://www.chow.com/restaurants/91573...

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                                      Foodnut8 RE: wolfe Mar 26, 2012 10:14 PM

                                      The owner of The Kitchen in Millbrae bought Asian Pearl about a month ago...

                                      Had dim sum the other day at The Kitchen and found it very good.

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