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barryg Feb 21, 2012 01:25 PM

I reckon that this is the Italian BYOB center of the universe.
La Viola
La Fontana della Citta
Branzino
La Baia
Bellini Grill

I haven't been to any of them. Which is the best? The least noisy? And am I missing any?

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    tfalbo RE: barryg Feb 21, 2012 02:44 PM

    I have only eaten 2, but they are two of my favorites:

    Bistro La Baia is great. Nothing overwrought, but great, clean flavors. Good family that runs the place, always very friendly. It can be one of the loudest places in Philly though, bested only perhaps by:

    La Viola! I think this takes the cake for best value in the City. But it is one of the loudest restaurants I have dined in anywhere, and you are on top of the adjacent tables. I guess that's how they keep their prices reasonable.

    One potential add-on would be Giorgio's on Pine, but you'd have to cross Broad so I'm not sure if that would nullify the "nearby" distinction.

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      InSearchOfTacos RE: barryg Feb 21, 2012 03:14 PM

      is melograno too far?

      1. sockii RE: barryg Feb 21, 2012 03:23 PM

        Of those you've listed, Branzino is my favorite. Classy atmosphere, solid food, good portions for the price, and a nice variety of dishes offered.

        I like La Baia for a simple meal but it's nothing I'd go out of my way for.

        I was underwhelmed by La Fontana della Citta. Felt like South Philly Italian-American instead of the authentic Italian-Italian I personally prefer, just dressed up a bit for Rittenhouse Square. And lousy bread.

        Have not been to La Baia or Bellini Grill.

        A little off the 17th & Pine area (but not much) I second Melograno for truly outstanding and innovative Italian BYOB. Also, it doesn't get much talk/rep around here but I am a diehard fan of Roberto Cafe at 22nd & South. Best Veal Milanese I've had in the city and it truly feels authentically Italian "trattoria" to me. My partner and I always go there when we are missing Italy and want a solid, non-fussy Italian meal.

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          sylviag RE: barryg Feb 21, 2012 04:58 PM

          We haven't been to La Baia. I'd like to know the noise level.
          Here's my take on the others:

          Although we haven't been to Branzino very recently, we've gone there many times over the years. A step above - lovely ambience, very good food well prepared, excellent service. We took a group there after a family graduation and everyone was pleased.

          La Viola - good food at a very reasonable price, noisy and hectic. Not for us. It's sister restaurant across the street is a little quieter, but still noisy and rushed.

          Bellini Grill -very ordinary.

          La Fontana della Citta - uneven. After I had brown salad greens and a dirty fork, I didn't want to go back.

          You have more choices if you can include Sansom Street. Melograno, which has very good food, was too noisy for us.

          If you're going to try one, I'd go with Branzino. There was a coupon today on the Center City District site for 15% off.

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            sockii RE: sylviag Feb 22, 2012 05:16 AM

            La Baia can get noisy and uncomfortable during prime weekend times. I've also had them rush service (or tell me I could have a table but I'd have to be in and out in 45 minutes...no thanks.) That said on weekday nights or early in the evening, it can be quiet and comfortable.

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            InSearchOfTacos RE: barryg Feb 22, 2012 06:02 AM

            la viola has been very rushed every time ive gone (which is only twice and i dont want to go back)

            friends enjoy la fontana and la baia but i have not been myself

            of the choices stated above, id go with branzino

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              PhillyA RE: barryg Feb 22, 2012 11:22 AM

              While I like Italian, I rarely seek it out so of that list I have only been to La Viola.

              That said, I love La Viola, and have been more than once. It's simple, inexpensive, and just plain good. It IS loud, but I highly recommend checking out La Viola Oest - it's right across the street, with the same menu and everything, but usually quieter. It's basically just overfill space.

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                jba1216 RE: barryg Feb 22, 2012 11:41 AM

                Try Melograno or Caffe Casta Diva. Neither is very far from your target area...and they are my two favorite Italian BYOs...

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