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Folia Grill: pork gyros is not your typical gyros...its ridiculously amazing

atomeyes Feb 17, 2012 09:27 AM

I dropped by Folia today for a quick lunch. I ordered my usual order - chicken gyros - and asked them how their pork gyros was selling.
They said they just added it to the menu a month ago, and so far, so go.
They offered me some of the meat to try, and I'm not one to say no to good food.

I typically wouldn't choose pork if i were getting souvlaki/gyros/grill. I tend to like what chicken and lamb do on a grill and how they marinade. So i wasn't sure what to expect from the pork gyros.

They presented me with 6 healthy nuggets of freshly-sliced pork gyros meat. The outside has a beautiful crisp char from the spices/marinade and from being in the rotisserie. i put the first bit of meat in my mouth and it was a ridiculous flavour explosion.

I'm not exaggerating when I say that it was the one of the most memorable pork dish I've tried (the others, as a quick reference, would be Chez L'ami Jean in Paris and, for local comparisons, Foxley's and Buster Rhino's ribs).

Since it opened, I've been saying that Folia Grill's one of the only worthwhile Greek-style restaurants in the Danforth. Admittedly, its based on the chicken gyros that they do to perfection (and for a great value). I may have to switch my eating allegiance to the swine side after having that sample.

If they pack the pork gyros up like they do with the chicken gyros (fries, onion, tomatoes, home-made tsatsiki wrapped in a slightly seared pita), then man, this could be dangerous. they're within walking distance, or soon-to-be rolling distance.

Price: gyros and a juice plus taxes = $10. And I am stuffed.

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    bytepusher RE: atomeyes Feb 17, 2012 12:00 PM

    Thanks for the report, been wanting to try them out to, I'm impressed that they seem to have managed to go through the change of ownership without losing what made the place good.

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      pippineast RE: atomeyes Feb 17, 2012 01:31 PM

      keep telling everyone we know to go here - we've been frequenting since they opened and they are the only Greek place we'll eat at...food is simple but expertly prepared, it's the Greek burger's priest, simple but done to perfection. wish toronto had more places like this.

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        atomeyes RE: pippineast Feb 17, 2012 01:38 PM

        owner said that since the Toronto Life review, business has doubled, which is excellent for them.

        food is simple, its fresh, its seasoned perfectly and its priced right.

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          prima RE: pippineast Feb 17, 2012 04:23 PM

          I totally agree, Folia Grill is the Greek Burger's Priest.

          Is Burger's Priest the only Continental place you'll eat at?

          Xaxaxa! ;-)

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          cheesymama RE: atomeyes Feb 17, 2012 02:41 PM

          I've been meaning to post about these. I went in specifically to try the pork gyro when I heard they were adding it to the menu. I wouldn't have believed that I would be so easily swayed from ordering the chicken gyro (which I love). The pork gyro is freaking amazing! The seasoning is perfect and an absolute flavour explosion. And yes, it is loaded up the same way the chicken one is.

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            atomeyes RE: cheesymama Feb 17, 2012 09:28 PM

            its funny...
            try telling someone who loves good about a ____ gyro you had. their eyes glaze over.
            these aren't your typical street meat fast food gyros.

            the gyros at Folia and the special tibs at Dukem are two of the tastiest foods you'll find in the east end. flavour-wise, i'd choose them over BP any day (personal preference, but hey). the seasoning is perfect, the meat is good quality meat and its cooked to perfection.

            I'd add these to any "Toronto Must Have Foods" list.

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              sumdumgoy RE: atomeyes Feb 18, 2012 09:54 AM

              The pork gyro at Folia is probably the greatest food bargain in the city. Crispy, juicy, lemony heaven.

              I had one 30 minutes ago and could not eat so much as an after dinner mint right now without grievous results.

              It must have weighed about a pound and a half.

              My only complaint is a bit too much tzatziki, best intentions but it is hard to look dignified when tzatziki is dripping off one's elbows.

              The owner is friendly and appears to be genuinely committed to growing the business with good food and good value.

              Note: The hours posted on the web site are incorrect. Folia opens at 11:30 M-F and 12:00 on Saturdays.

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                Davwud RE: sumdumgoy Feb 27, 2012 10:04 AM

                Re: the mint.

                "It's only wafer thin."

                John Cleese

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                  sumdumgoy RE: Davwud Feb 27, 2012 01:12 PM

                  That is indeed the mint to which I was referring!

          2. ruminant RE: atomeyes Feb 26, 2012 12:19 PM

            Having recently become regulars at Folia Grill (thanks CH!), I was eager to try the pork gyros as the newest addition to their menu. Like everything we've tried, they are incredibly tasty, fresh and generously served. The seasoning is quite different from the chicken gyros, but they are equally moist with delicious crispy bits and a tiny bit of fat here and there to round out the experience. Yesterday our meal consisted of 1 pork gyros pita, 1 pork gyros plate with salad and 3 drinks. The total, including tax, was $21.70. This was easily enough food for 3. All this with pleasant, clean surroundings, friendly service and attention to detail, including real cutlery and amazing, imported Greek feta on the village salad that you not will likely find elsewhere in the city...even the pita and the tzatziki are so much better than average.

            Tremendous taste and value. Beats the Danforth for grilled meats and salads any day.

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            Folia Grill
            1031 Pape Ave, Toronto, ON M4K 3V9, CA

             
             
            1. Davwud RE: atomeyes Feb 27, 2012 10:05 AM

              Comes as no surprise. They do some damned fine things there.

              Is Steve still there?? I know he said he was there "For now" during the ownership change but it didn't sound like he was committed long term.

              DT

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                sumdumgoy RE: Davwud Feb 27, 2012 01:11 PM

                Yes, Steve is still there, I didn't ask about the longer term.

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                  Davwud RE: sumdumgoy Feb 27, 2012 02:31 PM

                  It was a few months ago. He had no plans either way. Just a "We'll see."

                  DT

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                    LovelyAsia RE: Davwud Feb 29, 2012 09:54 PM

                    I was there this afternoon and spoke with Ben, the new owner, and Steve. They both confirmed that Steve is there to stay. He said let everyone know he is not going anywhere.

                    I thanked Ben for only adding to the menu, and leaving my favourite items alone - namely the Zucchini fries and pork belly souvlaki.

                    We tried the pork gyros and while it was good, we still prefer the chicken gyros and pork souvlaki better.

                    Whatever you choose, those are some huge sandwiches filled with tasty meat!

                    My only complaint, which I keep forgetting to mention to them, is when getting take out, they put the napkins at the bottom of the bag... which get oozed on by those stuffed to the brim sandwiches... or is it there to protect the bag... hmmm?

              2. Food Tourist RE: atomeyes Feb 28, 2012 08:23 PM

                Ate lunch at Folia two weeks ago. It's the real deal. Ordered regular pork as is (with fries inside). Huge and tasty and moist delicious meat.

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                  atomeyes RE: Food Tourist Feb 29, 2012 07:51 AM

                  was it your first time?

                  telling you, between the Priest, Dukem, Goody's, Zen and Folia, we have some nice East End finds.

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                    Food Tourist RE: atomeyes Feb 29, 2012 02:37 PM

                    Yes, another hound recommended it to me and actually suggested I get double pork but I found that single pork was plenty. I too love the Priest (hey, I'm Catholic) but haven't made it to the others you mentioned yet...I'm actually a West End Girl.

                2. Chester Eleganté RE: atomeyes Mar 9, 2012 04:59 PM

                  I had the mixed pork and chicken sandwich about a month ago. Respects to the audacity with which he fills up this badboy, and the low price point going on. But I actually loved it that much more with the chicken pita from back in the day. It could be that I was starving at the time so right beforehand I had already gone through a fair portion of a jerk dinner and a stewed chicken dinner (try it!) from Caribbean Soul Food down the street so I didn't fully appreciate the porky delight. I'll be happy to try it out again though. Always good peoples working here.
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                    levendis RE: Chester Eleganté Mar 12, 2012 05:22 PM

                    Ok...I have to try this place...it's a 2 minute walk from my in-laws. My wife will be pleasantly surprised that I want to go down to her mom's!

                  2. justxpete RE: atomeyes Mar 16, 2012 09:03 PM

                    Had some pork gyro at Folia the other day based on your reco. Astounded at the value for the money. Tender, delicious pork with a well "crispified" exterior. Would I go half way across the city for it? Almost did today! Only thing I found odd is that I told them I wanted everything in my gyro... And they put fries in it? Not sure if that's normal, but anywho - I didn't enjoy their inclusion. It also had a bit too much tzakiki for my liking - so next time, half tzakiki and hold the fries. A great gyro all around, though!

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                      prima RE: justxpete Mar 17, 2012 09:55 AM

                      It's common to have a handful of fries wrapped into the gyro in a pita in Athens and other parts of Greece. In TO, both Messini & Folia wrap fries into their gyros unless you ask them to hold the fries. When Messini first opened, a lot of Greek Cdns liked Messini because they were the only Greek place on the Danforth stacking their meat on the spit rather than using pre-frozen, processed gyro meat, and they were the only restaurant automatically serving their gyros the "Greek" way, with fries wrapped into the pita.

                      Fries are also sometimes wrapped into falafel pitas and shawarma pitas. Not sure which places might include fries in their shawarmas or falafels in TO.

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                      445 Danforth Ave, Toronto, ON M4K1P1, CA

                      Folia Grill
                      1031 Pape Ave, Toronto, ON M4K 3V9, CA

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                        atomeyes RE: prima Mar 17, 2012 10:29 AM

                        i was just about to mention that fries in pita is very Mediterranean. In Israel, the good places put "chip-pim" in your falafel/shwarma.

                        personally, i love that Folia puts them in. the fried starch completes it. i love the taste and the texture. if they asked me if i wanted fries, i'd think they're crazy for thinking i didn't want them.

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                          prima RE: atomeyes Mar 17, 2012 10:31 AM

                          I like having the fries wrapped in, too.

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                        Davwud RE: justxpete Mar 17, 2012 02:34 PM

                        Pete, you would order it just the way I do. I think the tzatziki is awesome there but I find they have too much of a heavy hand as well. I DO NOT like the fries on them at all.

                        And yes, as above have said, fries are a normal inclusion in some areas. FWIW, the Greek place (name escapes) beside Messini does the same.

                        DT

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                          prima RE: Davwud Mar 18, 2012 01:22 PM

                          Louis Meat Market (449 Danforth) is the name of the place near Messini, that also wraps fries into their pita sandwiches. For those who haven't visited, it's primarily a butcher shop that also offers take-out souvlaki & gyros. It's open fairly late, and usually gets the same type of crowd as Messini. http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/483138

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                            Splendid Wine Snob RE: prima Mar 18, 2012 02:26 PM

                            I'm not a fan of Messini but I also love the gyros at Louis. I'm a Folia/Louis gal depending where I am in the 'hood.

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                              Davwud RE: Splendid Wine Snob Mar 19, 2012 05:39 AM

                              Oddly enough I'm a Folia/Messini guy. Wasn't that impressed with Louis. Maybe it's because of the fries on the gyro. I really do not care for it.

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                                OTFOODIE RE: Davwud Mar 22, 2012 01:48 PM

                                I wasn't impressed by Louis either. I found it far too fatty and greasy.

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                                  Splendid Wine Snob RE: OTFOODIE Mar 22, 2012 03:31 PM

                                  Yeah, they are pretty fatty/greasy, but at least they are seasoned!

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                                prima RE: Splendid Wine Snob Mar 22, 2012 02:05 PM

                                I'm not a fan of the gyros at Messini, but I like their Greek fries.

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                                  OTFOODIE RE: prima Mar 22, 2012 02:18 PM

                                  I must admit that the last couple of times I was at Messini, I thought the quality had fallen off somewhat.

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                                    prima RE: OTFOODIE Mar 22, 2012 02:21 PM

                                    I've found Messini's gyros meat to be inconsistent over the last 5 years or so. Sometimes too salty, sometimes underseasoned and kind of blah, sometimes too greasy.

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                                      Splendid Wine Snob RE: prima Mar 22, 2012 03:30 PM

                                      The gyros at Messini have always been seriously under seasoned every time I tried (about 3-4 times I think?). In any case, I won't be back.

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                                SusanB RE: prima Mar 22, 2012 03:59 PM

                                Interesting to see the people who like / don 't like Louis or Messini. We like Messini, but didn't particularly like Louis. Maybe we'll try Folia sometime.

                          2. atomeyes RE: atomeyes Mar 17, 2012 04:29 PM

                            an interesting comparison for those west end food lovers.

                            i went to Porchetta and Co for a sammy. I love their pork sammies, especially with a hint of their truffle sauce, mustard and parm cheese.

                            I have to say, though, if you compared food to food, I'd give the edge to Folia. Its that good (although I do love the condiments and how they work with P&C's food).

                            when you take price into account, Folia's half the price of P&C. ah, to live in the east end...

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                              Splendid Wine Snob RE: atomeyes Mar 18, 2012 02:28 PM

                              I've found that the value has been lost for me recently at Porchetta and Co. It's delicious but the meat to bun ratio is off-it really needs more meat for the price they are charging.

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                                atomeyes RE: Splendid Wine Snob Mar 18, 2012 02:32 PM

                                i can see it

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                                  justsayn RE: Splendid Wine Snob Mar 18, 2012 02:34 PM

                                  What's wrong with 24 bucks a pound for pork shoulder ; )

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                                    Davwud RE: Splendid Wine Snob Mar 19, 2012 05:40 AM

                                    I think you'd be more happy with Sausage Kings version for bang for the buck.

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                                      sumdumgoy RE: Davwud Mar 19, 2012 06:20 AM

                                      They will happily put the half dozen fries on the side or leave them out altogether. Just ask.

                                      I get my gyro open faced, i.e. on a plate unrolled, and eat it with a knife and fork. That way I get a little pita, pork, veg. and tzatziki with every bite and a better chance of retaining my dignity by avoiding tzatziki on face, hands and lap because my next stop is inevitably the Danish bakery 4 doors south for the incredible almond pastry.

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                                        Davwud RE: sumdumgoy Mar 19, 2012 06:25 AM

                                        No, no, I know that. I've actually ordered the whole thing sub assembled and ate it almost Ethiopian style with the pita acting like the injera.

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                                  Shimso RE: atomeyes Mar 19, 2012 07:22 PM

                                  Damn, I tried Folia Grill for the first time and it was definitely worth the half hour it took to get there. I didn't try the pork; the chicken was the best I've had though....moist and perfectly spiced. I'm already thinking about going tomorrow :D Friendly service and very reasonable prices, too.

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                                    peppermint pate RE: atomeyes Mar 22, 2012 01:14 PM

                                    I've been a Folia fan for a while. Ordered some takeout there a couple of weeks ago and the zucchini fries, peppers and tzatziki were as lovely as over. Service was friendly as well. BUT my pork souvlaki sticks were really fatty. I don't mind a bit of fat - but this was like half-fat and gristle. It was a bit gross. Has anyone else ever had this problem? Did I just get a bum batch?

                                    I've never tried their gyros sandwiches - those will be next on my list. If my reaction is even half as positive as my stuffed belly, googly eyed, drooly happy face reaction after lunch at Chez L'ami Jean, I'll be an uber happy camper...

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                                      Davwud RE: peppermint pate Mar 22, 2012 01:48 PM

                                      It's pork belly souvlaki PP. As in the stuff you make bacon from.
                                      I have had this "Problem." It was delicious.

                                      DT

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                                        Yongeman RE: Davwud Mar 22, 2012 02:05 PM

                                        Ha ha Davwud. I can't believe I haven't been yet. Must. Go. Soon.

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                                          Davwud RE: Yongeman Mar 22, 2012 02:36 PM

                                          Drop me a line and we'll hook up.

                                          DT

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                                            Yongeman RE: Davwud Mar 22, 2012 09:30 PM

                                            I'll do that, DT.

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                                          peppermint pate RE: Davwud Mar 22, 2012 02:41 PM

                                          Ha - my bad. I didn't know that. But still, they could render it and crisp it up a bit more for my taste. There's crispy melty fat and undercooked rubbery fat - this was definitely in the latter camp. I'm still a Folia fan, though, as this was a lone blip in 5 visits.

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                                            haggisdragon RE: peppermint pate Mar 22, 2012 09:04 PM

                                            I agree. I'm a big pork belly fan. But this is not the best way to cook it.

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                                              Davwud RE: haggisdragon Mar 23, 2012 04:11 AM

                                              You're right. In a cast iron skillet after it's been cured and smoked is. But I've had their PB souv. and loved it both times.

                                              DT

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                                                haggisdragon RE: Davwud Mar 23, 2012 10:28 AM

                                                I have also had it and found it to be just okay.

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                                          atomeyes RE: peppermint pate Mar 22, 2012 03:11 PM

                                          i can't believe you seriously dropped a Chez L'ami Jean reference when talking about Folia.
                                          I like Folia a lot, but my first lunch experience at L'ami Jean was in my top 10 meals of all time.

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                                            peppermint pate RE: atomeyes Mar 22, 2012 04:45 PM

                                            Wait a sec - I didn't start the Chez L'ami Jean reference - you did (in your original post)! And by the by, it was one of my top 10 meals as well!!

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                                              atomeyes RE: peppermint pate Mar 23, 2012 03:27 AM

                                              oh yeah. i said it.
                                              mmmm rice pudding....

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                                                peppermint pate RE: atomeyes Mar 23, 2012 12:11 PM

                                                I have always had a huge aversion to rice pudding - I hate just about everything about it - but THAT rice pudding was one of the best desserts I've ever eaten. I had to walk for 3 hours after that lunch...

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                                            Splendid Wine Snob RE: peppermint pate Mar 22, 2012 03:32 PM

                                            Try the pork or chicken gyro instead.

                                          3. Splendid Wine Snob RE: atomeyes Mar 23, 2012 10:52 AM

                                            I really miss the biftekia pita the previous owners had on the menu. Does anyone know if the new owner has plans to bring it back?

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                                              sumdumgoy RE: Splendid Wine Snob Mar 23, 2012 02:02 PM

                                              I would simply ask.
                                              I tried it once and thought it was a bit salty and much overshadowed by the chicken gyro and more recently the pork.
                                              Restaurants are often fairly clever at figuring out what sells and what doesn't.
                                              I think they still had biftekia on the menu a week or so ago and I know they have all the other ingredients.

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                                                atomeyes RE: sumdumgoy Mar 23, 2012 02:38 PM

                                                i had the bifteka once. didn't really dig it.
                                                i did like their grilled peppers, though. very nice.

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                                                  Splendid Wine Snob RE: sumdumgoy Mar 23, 2012 02:48 PM

                                                  I wasn't aware of how clever restaurants were at figuring out what sells and what doesn't. Thanks for letting me know! I enjoy their grilled peppers but it's something we do quite well at home. I liked their biftekia because the meat was always moist and never overcooked, still nicely pink in the center, and to me it tasted great.

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                                                    doubledown RE: Splendid Wine Snob Mar 30, 2012 10:45 AM

                                                    what's the seating like in this place?

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                                                      foodyDudey RE: doubledown Mar 30, 2012 11:05 AM

                                                      If I remember correctly, they have 3 tables - two tables for 4 and another for 2.
                                                      I was there twice in the last 2 weeks but that's all that I remember as I always get take-out.

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                                                        justxpete RE: foodyDudey Mar 30, 2012 12:50 PM

                                                        I think they have 4 tables for two and 1 table for four... (up to eight if you take away two of the 2-tops)

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                                                          OTFOODIE RE: justxpete Mar 30, 2012 01:15 PM

                                                          Put it this way: They don't have a lot a seating, which is a shame, because this is not a sandwich to eat while walking.

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                                                            peppermint pate RE: OTFOODIE Mar 30, 2012 01:17 PM

                                                            ...and those zucchini fries taste WAY better fresh out of the fryer than after a 10 minute car ride home. On the other hand, I've never seen more than 2 or 3 people eating there, no matter what time of day I've been, so unless you're a larger crowd, I don't imagine seating would be a problem.

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                                                        Davwud RE: doubledown Mar 30, 2012 01:57 PM

                                                        I would say it seats about 10 or 12.

                                                        Here is a picture. http://bit.ly/HzPUeu
                                                        My back is against the front glass.

                                                        DT

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                                                          foodyDudey RE: Davwud Mar 30, 2012 03:24 PM

                                                          from your pic, they seem to have seating for 8, and that is consistent with what I remember. I guess someone will report on this shortly.

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                                                            Davwud RE: foodyDudey Mar 31, 2012 07:01 AM

                                                            There's at least 3 tables along the wall in the right of the picture.

                                                            DT

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                                                    foodyDudey RE: Splendid Wine Snob Mar 30, 2012 11:06 AM

                                                    It was on the menu board last week

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                                                    Yongeman RE: atomeyes Mar 31, 2012 07:09 AM

                                                    I finally went to Folia Grill this week. Not sure why it's taken me this long. I was going to try the pork belly souvlaki (next time, for sure) but decided to go for the pork gyros. Flavour, texture, value were all awesome! I loved the herb-flavoured pork with its nice mix of outside crispy bits and inside juicy ones. Yum! My son, on the other hand, who is not a pork fan, tried the chicken gyros and commented that it wasn't very flavourful. Oh well.

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                                                      OTFOODIE RE: Yongeman Mar 31, 2012 11:11 AM

                                                      The one time I went, I had both the pork and chicken and thought the chicken to be a bit better, but I didn't have tzatziki because I thought it would overpower the chicken, and 'cause I'm not a much of a tzatziki fan.

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                                                        Herne RE: OTFOODIE Apr 1, 2012 07:38 AM

                                                        Seems to have generated a level of interest similar to Goody's.

                                                        I don't live in the area but do pass by reasonably closely and want to try the Chicken and Pork gyros --take out, I'm not a glutton yet.

                                                        Where does one park nearby?

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                                                          OTFOODIE RE: Herne Apr 1, 2012 08:11 AM

                                                          I only saw street parking, and google maps shows nothing in the vicinity. A block and a half north on Gamble, just around the corner from Donlands Bakery, there is metered parking where I have always had success when running into the bakery.

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                                                            Herne RE: OTFOODIE Apr 1, 2012 08:25 AM

                                                            Thanks OTFOODIE I'll look first on Gamble. After about 45 years of driving I still have an adversarial relationship with parallel parking.

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                                                              bigheid RE: Herne Apr 1, 2012 08:32 AM

                                                              If you are going today I think they are closed.

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                                                                Herne RE: bigheid Apr 1, 2012 08:43 AM

                                                                Glad you mentioned it. I'll look into whether they are open or not before I go there. I usually go nearby Monday to Friday and I was thinking Tuesday might be the day to try it.

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                                                                  Herne RE: bigheid Apr 1, 2012 09:58 AM

                                                                  Your are correct sir. I'l try on Tuesday. Thanks.

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                                                                  justxpete RE: Herne Apr 1, 2012 10:06 AM

                                                                  If I remember correctly, and - it's difficult to explain, but two of the three street spots right in front of the store do not require parallel parking, as there are only three spots immediately in front, and the spots on the ends are next to driveways - so if you're lucky, you might not have to park down the street after all!

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                                                                atomeyes RE: Herne Apr 1, 2012 08:44 AM

                                                                1 street south, you can find street parking (usually).
                                                                be prepared to drive halfway down the street. ends up being a 2 minute walk. otherwise, you can park on Pape (metered) during non-rush hour times

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                                                                  peppermint pate RE: atomeyes Apr 2, 2012 05:16 AM

                                                                  You can even park across the street, on the west side of Pape, during afternoon rush hour and there will hardly be any cars (so you can drive straight in and avoid your parallel parking phobia).

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                                                                  foodyDudey RE: Herne Apr 1, 2012 10:19 AM

                                                                  Herne,

                                                                  I have almost always found parking right in front of Folia or just north of the driveway, and a few times we parked on Gowan, which is one street south. You can usually park on Gowan without having to use your parallel parking skills.

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                                                                    Herne RE: foodyDudey Apr 1, 2012 10:45 AM

                                                                    Thanks for all the help and direction. No excuses if I don't get there next week.

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                                                              autopi RE: atomeyes Apr 3, 2012 01:12 PM

                                                              went and checked out folia recently, thanks to this thread. i agree with the consensus -- pork gyros were fantastic, and a *very* generous portion of nicely done pork -- some char, some fat; went very well with the tzatziki, fries and i think a squeeze of lemon. if anything, there was too much pork -- next time i will bring a container to pack away the extras. super tasty and super cheap. good thing it's not super close, or that would indeed be bad news.

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                                                                sumdumgoy RE: autopi Apr 4, 2012 09:01 AM

                                                                Another good thing about Easter weekend, Folia will be open regular hours so only closed on Sunday.

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                                                                pinchy_the_lobster RE: atomeyes Oct 6, 2012 05:53 PM

                                                                Absolutely phenomenal!

                                                                I was a loyal consumer of Messini's but now it's Folia all the way for gyro satisfaction! Having eaten there several times now it is well worth the extra 10 minutes journey north on Pape.

                                                                I always have the pork whenever I am there - the owners use pork butt and the extra fat content renders beautifully throughout the spit and keeps every piece juicy and awesomely flavorful! The marinade and spices in the pork, topped with a fresh squeeze of lemon on top, results in an explosion in your mouth. It's THAT good! Try a piece without any of the equally delicious soft, fluffy, pita and garlic/tzatsiki sauce and you'll know what I mean!

                                                                Oh, and it's huge! You get a lot for $5.25. Phenomenal.

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                                                                  cheesymama RE: atomeyes Oct 7, 2012 04:55 AM

                                                                  Always so good, and now open on Sundays!

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                                                                    SusanB RE: atomeyes Oct 20, 2012 01:14 PM

                                                                    Finally got around to have the pork gyro - wow, amazing! Loved it. Huge amount of delicious pork. I figure we'll still have to go to Messini for the lamb gyro but for pork, we'll be heading to Folia.

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                                                                      KhaoSanRoad RE: SusanB Oct 22, 2012 01:07 PM

                                                                      i am a regular of folia. i usually go for the chicken gyro and get a skewer of pork on the side. that way i get to enjoy the pork straight up.

                                                                      as an aside, i was at alexandros on the danforth. they have an excellent pork gyro (tons of meat!). the pork and perfect. crispy exterior, moist interior. great flavours. great sammy. great value.

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                                                                        prima RE: KhaoSanRoad Oct 24, 2012 08:55 PM

                                                                        I'm also a fan of Folia.

                                                                        When I don't feel like trekking north on Pape, I've been happy with the pork souvlaki sticks at Megas and Zorba's, and the chicken souvlaki sticks at Asteria east of Pape.

                                                                    2. Baelsette RE: atomeyes Oct 24, 2012 06:20 AM

                                                                      So happy to see this thread. We tried Messini once and honestly weren't impressed. Everytime we drive by and see the massive lineups we are in amazement!
                                                                      Think this may be dinner tonight!

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                                                                        DUH CAR RE: atomeyes Nov 8, 2012 04:24 AM

                                                                        We tried them last night - pork and chicken souvlaki plus zucchini fries. All very very good. Would recommend that you not take the fries back home as they don't travel that well.

                                                                        Will try the gyros next time!

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                                                                          Davwud RE: DUH CAR Nov 8, 2012 04:44 AM

                                                                          Really, no fries travel well. They need to be consumed fresh from the fryolator.

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                                                                            DUH CAR RE: Davwud Nov 8, 2012 09:26 AM

                                                                            LOL. Yeah, I know, I'm not knocking the restaurant. And especially with zucchini as it's like 95% water, but don't get the chance to have zucchini fries that often......

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                                                                              Davwud RE: DUH CAR Nov 8, 2012 10:38 AM

                                                                              Okay, I got you now. I took that more like "I didn't like it. I got take out. I drove 2 hours to my destination and my food was cold!!"
                                                                              LOL

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                                                                                deabot RE: Davwud Nov 22, 2012 06:54 PM

                                                                                Finally gave these guys a try tonight. I got the pork gyro, village salad and zuchinni fries. Yes I was hungry, had to bring some of the salad and fries home.

                                                                                Prelim findings: Pretty good, meat had good seasoning and a little char. I like extra souvlaki so no complaints there. Zucchini sticks were good but i think I would have preferred the tzaziki as a dip over the folia sauce. Most impressed with the friendly service and the level of care put into the prep. Bright, vibrant tomatoes! Next time, I'll try the pork belly skewer.

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                                                                          bytepusher RE: atomeyes May 24, 2013 12:32 PM

                                                                          Went to Folia for lunch on the weekend, as good as ever but they have put their prices up a bit. Our standard order of 2 gyros and 2 softdrinks, instead of being under 16 bucks was just over 20.

                                                                          Still a good deal even at the new prices

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                                                                            cheesymama RE: bytepusher May 24, 2013 05:07 PM

                                                                            I was in tonight to pick up an order, 2 gyro dinners plus a side of zucchini came to just under $25. We were 3 adults and 2 children and we all left the table stuffed! Definitely still a deal. I also noticed that their gyro pita prices seemed to have stayed the same.
                                                                            I love this place, always a good meal to be had!

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                                                                              justxpete RE: bytepusher May 24, 2013 07:31 PM

                                                                              I think they mis-charged you or something? I was in yesterday, and for two drinks + two gyros was under $16.

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                                                                                bytepusher RE: justxpete May 24, 2013 08:07 PM

                                                                                Guy I did not recognize working the cash so that's possible...

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                                                                                  justxpete RE: bytepusher May 24, 2013 08:18 PM

                                                                                  I did not recognize them either. Coincidentally, my gyro was not as well seasoned as it usually is.

                                                                                  Ps, I also always get fries in my gyro now (despite my initial misgivings). Would not have it without!

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                                                                                    cheesymama RE: justxpete May 25, 2013 03:54 AM

                                                                                    Yes, must ask for extra seasoning when the new guys are on.

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                                                                              Sadistick RE: atomeyes Jul 17, 2013 10:01 AM

                                                                              Went today, usual jolly chef fellow was not behind the helm, seemed like the boss, bald fellow, very nice, though not as skilled as the guy with the beard was manning the helm.

                                                                              I tried for the first time the chicken gyros and was pleasantly surprised to see dark meat! The only gripe I have was that he put in fries that had been sitting in the tray for the entire time, I even commented to ensure they weren't as I had suspected, but sadly my gut was right and they were cold 'mealy' fries....and I LOVE the fries in this wrap.

                                                                              Chicken was perfect though, decently seasoned but the extra lemon in their thaziki really makes it pop.

                                                                              At the end of the day though, you will be hard pressed to locate nearly, let alone equal recreations at $6 a pop.

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                                                                                Davwud RE: Sadistick Jul 17, 2013 02:06 PM

                                                                                I love the place. Glad to hear it's still going strong.

                                                                                I hope this doesn't mean that Steve (the chef) has moved on though.

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                                                                                  deabot RE: Davwud Jul 17, 2013 02:56 PM

                                                                                  I do as well. Unfortunately, I think Steve has moved on. I haven't seen him there in over 3 months. Food is still good no big noticeable dips in quality yet.

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                                                                                    Davwud RE: deabot Jul 17, 2013 03:13 PM

                                                                                    I know when I talked to him when I was doing my blog fact gathering he said that he didn't know how long he would be sticking around but his plans were to move on.
                                                                                    After the sale by the founders he told me he was sticking around "for now" which he bascially told me was to ensure a smooth transition.
                                                                                    So he's probably gone.

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                                                                                      justxpete RE: Davwud Jul 18, 2013 06:04 AM

                                                                                      I was told that the owner and him opened up/took over a bistro at Davisville and Yonge (I believe) called Kramer's. Haven't been yet.

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                                                                                        Davwud RE: justxpete Jul 18, 2013 07:29 AM

                                                                                        Interesting.
                                                                                        Kramers is a hang out for my cousin and his wife. Or, it at least used to be.

                                                                                        At one time that place was called The Barmaid's Arms. It was for all intents and purposes a remote office for the TTC. My dad worked at 1900 Yonge (TTC HO) and if the place was open, someone from the TTC was in there.

                                                                                        To the best of my knowledge, it's lost some of it's business to The Ploughman just south on Yonge.

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                                                                                          sumdumgoy RE: Davwud Jul 22, 2013 07:01 AM

                                                                                          Ben bought Kramer's and Steve is working with him.

                                                                                          I haven't tried the food yet but am very optimistic. Previously the food was atrocious.

                                                                                          They are improving the decor of the place as time and money permit and there is a roof top bar which is quite attractive.

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                                                                                            Yongeman RE: sumdumgoy Jul 22, 2013 03:18 PM

                                                                                            It wouldn't take too much to improve the food at Kramer's. Here's hoping...

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                                                                                              1sweetpea RE: sumdumgoy Jul 23, 2013 11:22 AM

                                                                                              Wow! This is great news for Kramer's. When I've gone there to play PubStumpers trivia in the past, I avoided the food, as per suggestions by teammates. I see a few items have migrated onto the menu from Folia (village salad, Greek fries with lemon dipping sauce, calamari). I'll have to give them a try next time I'm there.

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                                                                                                Davwud RE: 1sweetpea Jul 23, 2013 11:40 AM

                                                                                                Let's hope for everyone's sake that Steve's tzatziki recipe made it over there. Easily the best I've had.

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                                                                                                  justxpete RE: Davwud Dec 22, 2013 09:52 AM

                                                                                                  Has anyone been to Kramer's yet?

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                                                                                                    atomeyes RE: Davwud Dec 25, 2013 09:44 AM

                                                                                                    tzatziki at Folia's changed.
                                                                                                    too heavy on the dill

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                                                                                                      Davwud RE: atomeyes Dec 25, 2013 11:43 AM

                                                                                                      Too bad.

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                                                                                    wylie1 RE: atomeyes Sep 29, 2013 02:30 PM

                                                                                    I had the chicken and my husband had the pork souvlaki this afternoon.OMG was it delicious !!! We also had the zucchini fries,another winner.We each had a pop and it was under $20.
                                                                                    The chicken was so tasty and tender , mixed in with their yummy fries,this huge stuffed pita was so filling for under $6 and we are stuffed. I told the nice young men cooking that I would post something good on here.
                                                                                    Folia Grill

                                                                                    1. atomeyes RE: atomeyes Oct 6, 2013 05:31 PM

                                                                                      i went tonight.
                                                                                      found out that there are new owners.
                                                                                      chicken gyros were really dry and crispy.
                                                                                      zucchini fries were still excellent.

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                                                                                        Davwud RE: atomeyes Oct 7, 2013 06:17 AM

                                                                                        New owners?? As in another (3rd) owners or are you just now realizing the original owners sold??

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                                                                                          bytepusher RE: Davwud Oct 7, 2013 07:38 AM

                                                                                          Last time I was in the Pork Gyro was a little crispier than it has been (as if they turned up the tempurature on the rotisserie) and the spicing level was back up.

                                                                                          It's been a while since I've seen the 2nd owner in there and almost all of the staff are newish, except for the young Asian guy.

                                                                                          My guess is yes, it's been sold again.

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                                                                                            atomeyes RE: Davwud Oct 7, 2013 08:09 AM

                                                                                            3rd.
                                                                                            1st was the young Greek couple who moved near Hamilton.
                                                                                            second owner was armenian, i believe. lived upstairs. dark hair, nice guy. bought Kramers on Yonge and Davisville a while back.
                                                                                            Now it is a husband and wife. also armenian, i believe. not that it matters. they look a bit older. husband is bald. just describing them in case you see them in the restaurant.

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                                                                                              Davwud RE: atomeyes Oct 7, 2013 09:51 AM

                                                                                              Any reason to believe this will affect quality??

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                                                                                                atomeyes RE: Davwud Oct 7, 2013 10:37 AM

                                                                                                yes, because i ate there last night and the quality was not good. already posted that.
                                                                                                may be one off and i'm not jumping to any conclusions, but just stating that my chicken was unsatisfying.

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                                                                                                  Davwud RE: atomeyes Oct 7, 2013 11:32 AM

                                                                                                  Ya, I read that. I wasn't sure if it was portending imminent doom or you just merely making an observation.

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                                                                                                    justxpete RE: Davwud Dec 23, 2013 10:39 AM

                                                                                                    I was there on Thursday. While still good (and perhaps busier than ever?) , it's not the absolute perfection it used to be. This was my third or fourth visit since the latest ownership swap.

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                                                                                                      Brain of J RE: justxpete Jan 2, 2014 12:34 PM

                                                                                                      I'm not a big pita / gyro guy but Folia made me a convert. Hope that ownership change doesn't hurt quality that much.

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                                                                                          neighborguy RE: atomeyes Feb 16, 2014 02:19 PM

                                                                                          Has anyone been lately? I believe the place is into it's fourth owner? Visited many times when it first opened by the young couple. Now I notice the prices are up and I hope the quality of food has stayed the same.

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