Bravo Pizza - now Kosher!
Rumor has it that the Bravo Pizza on 37th and Bway is now kosher (under O-K)!!!! I used to live across the street from one of their locations, and (from before I kept kosher) remember it to have been quite good! Has anyone been yet? Reviews? I really hope it's as good as I remember...
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re: DeisCane
Ha, Deis. Bravo to them on the pizza. The secret is in the crust. We had the deep dish, regular slice, Mozzarella swirly slice and Grandma's Sicilian which is Marinara based. Delicious. When a patron asked for fries and was surprised to hear that there weren't any, I just smiled thinking of our recent Chow discussion about that. In the end, I didn't want to venture into pasta or sandwich as I didn't get the feeling that that would be wise. It is a pizza joint. BTW, around the corner is the new Pitopia and that looked really clean and busy from the outside (falafel, chumus, salads). I will try that place next time.
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Finally went! It was pretty good, nothing amazing, but certainly good. I spoke with one of the staff members, who mentioned that when the restaurant became kosher they kept the same recipes and just changed a few of the ingredients. Also a plus, for a lowbrow pizza joint, it seemed very clean. We will definitely be back.
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re: PotatoPuff
Quick notes: A nice selection of toppings, styles (deep dish, stuffed, Sicilian, etc.). I sampled a plain slice as a baseline indicator. It was decent by which I mean better than most. The crust is unusually light and crispy on the bottom. Some may like that; I like my crusts to be thin but a bit chewier. Sauce was decent and cheese was plentiful. I would like to try some of their other offerings. Pluses: they are open until 11 pm and they serve beer. They might consider removing the large poster showing a pepperoni pizza that is in the dining area. The slice was not quite as good as Rosa’s but location and hours make it a good option for me.
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Another through to consider: This is relatively close to Rosa's Kosher pizza in the Empire State bldg. It was also a non-kosher place that became kosher, I believe. For a hole in the wall, by the slice pizzeria, Rosa's is pretty good, but they have limited hours. Do you guys think Bravo will be competition for them?
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It will be interesting to see if the pizza will remain the same. There has been a lot of discussion on these boards over the years regarding the superior quality of Italian/non-Kosher pizza. Most people who have tasted both say there's no comparison.
It seems to me that a product made of dough, vegetarian marinara sauce and cheese shouldn't be all that hard to duplicate.
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re: helou
It's more expensive and takes more time to get better ingredients, make your own sauce, get a good oven, etc so any restaurant balances quality vs. price that people are willing to pay. In the kosher world, there are plenty of consumers who will pay more for lower quality food than other places.
Also, marinara sauce is vegetarian by definition.
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re: zsero
oxford dictionary says that marinara sauce is " sauce made from tomatoes, onions, and herbs, served especially with pasta" wikipedia says "There are at least two folk theories as to the origin of this sauce: One says cooks aboard Neapolitan ships invented marinara sauce in the mid-16th century after Spaniards introduced the tomato (a New World fruit) to Europe. This meat-free sauce was easy to make and resisted spoiling due to the high acid content of tomatoes. This made it ideal for lengthy sea voyages hundreds of years before refrigeration methods were invented. Another theory states this was a sauce prepared by the wives of Neapolitan sailors upon their return from sea"
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I think this conversion raises an interesting question that was raised before in the general pizza discussion. Why do kosher places feel the need to offer french fries?
This is the Bravo Pizza menu from the remaining non-kosher locations:
http://www.bravopizzany.com/ShowMenu.tplAnd this is the menu from the new kosher Bravo Pizza:
http://www.bravokosherpizza.com/ShowM...I realize that they had to remove the buffalo wings and beef patty, but why was that accompanied by adding french fries? Why did they remove the Garlic Knots Parmigiana? Should we expect the next menu revision to include a sushi section?
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re: zsero
The reason that the store was told that by its hashgacha is that milchig bread was banned so that people would not accidentally make a meat sandwich on dairy bread. The only exception exists when the bread has a sign on it which designates to all that it is dairy. It is for this reason that you cannot find OU, OK or Star-K dairy bread. This is also why bread sold at Costcos with kosher bakeries lacks a hashgacha symbol on it, while everything else baked in that bakery will bear a hashgachs (OK, Vaad of Five Towns, etc...).
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re: mrfood16
Not meaning to make this a forum for shaalos, but the gemara and piskei teshuva don't draw a distincition (which is why the major kashrus organizations don't allow it).
Besides, if you take the garlic knots out of the restaraunt, there is nothing indicating on the bread itself that it is milchig. One could envision a scenario where the bag of garlic knots is sitting on a counter in the house and another occupant is looking for bread to eat with spaghetti & meat sauce. He/she sees the garlic knots and eats them together because there is no indication they are dairy. This is what the gemara was looking to avoid.
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re: KosherLawNY
I know why milchig bread is forbidden. That's not silly at all, and it's an explicit law in Shulchan Aruch. But it seems silly to me that garlic knots made and sold in a pizza store would be covered by this halacha. Surely they're distinctive enough by shape, and also small enough to fall under the other exception, that one may make a milchig loaf that's so small it will be sure to be consumed in one sitting.
Nevertheless I know of a case where a machshir so ruled.
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re: Dovid
Huh? So because they serve french fries in falafel in Israel, a restaurant in NY that is not serving falafel needs to serve french fries because guys who spent time in israel and are used to french fries in falafel will be a market for a pizza store without falafel?
I think I'm missing one or two points in your logic?
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