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Demeyere Industry 5 from sur la table

Apparently just released. Any one form an opinion in it vs the AC 5 ply. Thanks

Ken

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  1. Ken,

    Do you mean AC d5 or some other AC 5 ply? All Clad d5 has an alternating design. Demeyere Industry 5 does not. It has a more typical cladding arrangement.

    More importantly, Demeyere Industry 5 is a fully cladded series for all its cookware. The fully cladded part is not different from All Clad, but it is a break from Demeyere's past philosophy.

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    1. re: Chemicalkinetics

      Yes, I'm trying to compare the all clad d5 with the demeyere industry 5. Not sure what mean by alternating vs typical cladding design. Aren't they both ss, al, ss, al, ss all the way up?

      1. re: kgoodman16

        kgoodman,

        You are correct about the All Clad d5 series having ss-al-ss-al-ss. I don't believe this is Demeyere Industry 5 setup. It has ss-al-al-al-ss: that is three layers of aluminum (of different alloy) in the core. You can read that description from Sur la Table:

        " Industry5 cookware boasts a five-ply 3mm-thick aluminum and aluminum-alloy core for fast and even heat distribution. The interior is nonreactive 18/10 stainless steel for easy cleanup, and the gleaming 18/10 stainless steel exterior is magnetic"

        Also you can see this on youtube.
        http://youtu.be/9zZUxWzqutM?t=1m6s

    2. Hi, kgoodman:

      My opinion from afar is that the DI5 should be very good--perhaps the best fully clad yet made. 3mm of aluminum all around is impressive.

      To keep things in perspective, (a) there are even thicker SS-lined aluminum pans; (b) 3mm is only about half of the ideal thickness; (c) Demeyere was doing thicker (5mm) bases in aluminum back in the mid-1960s; and (d) the cladding is still going to somewhat mute the way they perform--i.e., clad is clad. Still, for those who must have their pans wrapped in SS, DI5 looks like a good choice.

      Demeyere's videos about DI5 are pretty funny. http://www.surlatable.com/category/ca... especially the one of the crazy 98-pound Belgian jumping rope on the casserole. It's obvious after watching these that Demeyere is mounting a direct assault on All-Clad (with nary a condescending Belgian word about "wasteful" conductive sidewalls!). Hmmmm, were they wrong before, or are they wrong about that now?

      The last thing I'll note is that I find the DI5 loop handles to be supremely ugly.

      Aloha,
      Kaleo

      1. The industry 5 appears to be a 5 ply version of the Viking V7 which is a 7 ply that would also appear to be made by Demeyere based on some of the termanology used in literature of both. I have no idea how they compare beyond that and the fact the Industry 5 has a pour lip that is missing on the Viking, however I find the introductry special price for the 3 qt saute very tempting. Even better is if you can enroll in one of their Demeyere Industry 5 cooking classes for $100 and get a free gift of, yes, that 3 qt sauce pan. The closest SLT to me does not have classes and even that store is 3+ hours away, I'm beter off just buying the thing for $140.

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        1. re: mikie

          Well we ended up buying the industry5. I'll let you know how I like it after a while

          Ken Goodman

          1. re: kgoodman16

            Hi, Ken:

            What piece(s) did you buy?

            BTW, if you can remember, please also report what you think of the Silvinox lining.

            Aloha,
            Kaleo

            1. re: kgoodman16

              "Well we ended up buying the industry5"

              Sound like a good choice. They are all good choice. Please do let us know how you like the cookware. Thanks.

              1. re: kgoodman16

                Congratulations on the new cookware. I was at SLT just about three weeks ago now and this cookware wasn't in the store yet, so I didn't get a chance to see it in person. I ended up with a large Viking saute pan, but I'm still interested in the Industry 5 3 qt. saute. I look forward to a review. I'm assuming the Industry 5 cookware replaced the Apollo line in the US.

            2. Hi Ken,

              How do you like the Industry 5? I'm considering purchasing the skillet, so any comments/critiques on the product would be appreciated.

              Thanks.

              1. BUMP...

                Ken (or anyone else) have any feedback on the Industry5? Trying to evaluate vs. Sitram Catering (copper core). Sitram seems to be significantly cheaper.

                It also seems like the DI5 is almost as expensive as the Atlantis (copper core). Is the aluminum core a large drop in quality such that it would be wiser to shell out a few extra bucks for the copper?

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                1. re: Beachowolfe

                  Heavy aluminum disc pans work well. Copper and silver have good performance but, thick aluminum works very well too. If you need a very responsive pan for specialized cooking, copper or silver are probably worth it. Most people with a thick aluminum disc pan will never notice the difference.

                  1. re: Sid Post

                    Thanks. Any experience w/ either of these lines? I'm registering for wedding gifts.