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Weston Thinks Farmers' Markets Can Kill You!

Kagemusha Feb 8, 2012 07:15 AM

Where were his handlers?

http://www.thestar.com/living/article...

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  1. foodyDudey Feb 8, 2012 07:22 AM

    He needs his head slapped. I'm sure the Maple Leaf products that made people sick (and die) were sold from his stores, not farmer's markets.

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      TexSquared Feb 8, 2012 02:20 PM

      I am no supporter of Loblaws or Mr. Weston (in fact I despise their entire operation) but maybe he should have talked about this instead:

      http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/797781

      That would have been more damaging to the reputation of "farmers'" markets and more helpful to his cause, than his stupid quote today which is backfiring bigtime.

    2. Flexitarian Feb 8, 2012 07:23 AM

      What a self-serving idiotic comment. His stores are full of imported produce and products from countries where standards are lax, even when local alternatives are available. Now, THAT might kill you.

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        wadejay26 Feb 8, 2012 07:34 AM

        I see nothing wrong with his comments. People misquoting are the problem.

        “Farmers’ markets are great. . . ,” Weston said Tuesday during a speech to about 600 people at the Metro Toronto Convention Centre, but added: “One day they’re going to kill some people though.”
        “I’m just saying that to be dramatic though,” he quickly added."

        Perfectly true. How many people die every year from food poisoning? It happens. Do people really believe no one will ever get sick and die from contaminated food purchased at a Farmer's Market? He did not say Farmers Markets will kill you.

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          BusterRhino Feb 8, 2012 07:47 AM

          You are right he didn't say that, what he did was put fear into people's minds that farmers markets can be unsafe and unmonitored. This was a highly thought out and very effective tactic by loblaws. It's starting to go into the market season shortly and fear, as we all know, is a major motivator in how people purchase products.
          It's like Maple Leaf coming out and saying 'buying from a small butcher shop will make you sick' which it did say a couple years ago, right after they killed 20 some odd people. I had people tell me that it was unsafe to buy from a small butcher because they weren't clean. I asked them where they heard that, and it was thru the news... they couldn't remember how or in what context they just knew it wasn't smart to buy from a butcher.

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            jayt90 Feb 8, 2012 07:49 AM

            I don't see a misquote here. Bain is a seasoned reporter.

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              CanadaGirl Feb 20, 2012 06:03 AM

              I think leaving out his "just kidding" DOES change the story. Context is important and without the second statement his meaning is different.

              I am not a Loblaws defender and it isn't where I normally buy my produce, but I do think there has been a lot of incomplete reporting on this. Any produce is potentially tainted, regardless of where it comes from.

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                Kagemusha Feb 20, 2012 10:52 AM

                Please...The link I cited at the top is complete and supplies the context. Loblaws disingenuous "buy local" campaign over the last several summers flopped. Who's taken in by some food terminal-sourced Ontario cucumbers or bruised peaches perched on hay bales? He just looks desperate and petty.

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                  CanadaGirl Feb 21, 2012 03:15 AM

                  I was reesponding to the poster that referenced misquoting. And while the Star article may have has the entire quote, not all media sources did. Their effort to say they have local may not be a resounding success, but I'm not in Ontario, I'm in NS. None of the local stuff came far, and much listed the specific farm. I'm sure I sound like a shill, but I don't even buy much produce at Superstore (our Loblaws owned brand). But it doesn't change the fact that he's correct. I'm not losing any sleep over it, but, there is some risk in most of what we eat, regardless of its source.

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                    Kagemusha Feb 22, 2012 04:47 AM

                    Hopefully you've got bigger fish to fry?

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                      CanadaGirl Feb 22, 2012 01:06 PM

                      Sorry - I don't understand :)

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                        Kagemusha Feb 22, 2012 02:10 PM

                        Why do you care about Weston? Pretty much guaranteed he won't love any of us back.

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                          CanadaGirl Feb 22, 2012 04:05 PM

                          I don't particularly care about Weston. I care about some media outlets omitting the full context of a quote or situation. On the grand scheme of things, this particular incident is not a huge deal, but, to me, the underlying issue IS a big deal. Unfortunately this type of reporting happens on some more important stories too.

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                            ios94 Feb 23, 2012 07:23 AM

                            What he said was quite clear and premeditated. "Just kidding" doesn't change much, he said what he meant. People in his position don't just make comments like that and then say "just kidding" without meaning what they originally said. Now go have one of your re-called beef patties Weston.

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                              Kagemusha Feb 23, 2012 03:06 PM

                              This isn't an important story, nor did anyone malign this star member of the Canadian "lucky gene" club. He just needs more staff to keep his feet clear of his mouth.

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                                CanadaGirl Feb 23, 2012 04:42 PM

                                I don't think you understood my last post. I clearly stated I don't think this particular story is a big deal.

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                        jayt90 Feb 23, 2012 06:01 PM

                        CanadaGirl, which media sources misquoted Weston? You are daming the whole lot of them.

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                          CanadaGirl Feb 24, 2012 03:03 AM

                          I'm not damning " the whole lot" of them. I use the word "some", which clearly means there are those that had the whole context. Sorry I can't give you a specific outlet, but the first report on this I saw left out the "just kidding" part. I've seen the full context in multiple other spots, but that doesn't negate my original exposure. I tend to be somewhat suspicious of brief quotes in media reports, as I have been quoted incompletely in the past and appeared to be stating a position in total opposition to what I had actually said.

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                            ios94 Feb 24, 2012 05:37 AM

                            And I tend to be suspicious of people who don't sell real food.

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                  Kagemusha Feb 8, 2012 07:53 AM

                  WTF? Why so apologetic for what the Westonette plainly said? Do you live in Ontario or the GTA, wadejay26?

                  NG is losing money seasonally to the markets. One look at the over-priced, second-rate produce in his stores tells why.

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                    foodyDudey Feb 8, 2012 07:56 AM

                    From his profile, he seems to be living in Alabama, so I doubt he even shopped in a Loblaws or other Weston owned store.

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                    sloweater Feb 8, 2012 08:01 AM

                    Arlene Stein of Evergreen put it best. Farmer's markets are his competition.

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                      Flexitarian Feb 8, 2012 08:09 AM

                      His comment was mean-spirited, unnecessary, irrelevant, and more applicable to his own stores where there is far less scrutiny and examination of the products being sold than farmers who sell the produce they grow themselves and therefore have intimate knowledge of their provenance.

                      I can't believe you'd actually say there is nothing wrong with his comments. What are you smoking?

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                        ericthered Feb 8, 2012 08:26 AM

                        Back away from the crack pipe.

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                          sloweater Feb 8, 2012 08:29 AM

                          It's sounds like he's hired Karl Rove to do his PR.

                      2. estufarian Feb 8, 2012 09:54 AM

                        Definitely a stupid comment.
                        However, didn't someone die from drinking 'farmer's market' cider a few years back?
                        It was east of Toronto (?Oshawa) but I definitely recall a 'major issue'.
                        Can't find anything on-line to substantiate (or refute).

                        EDIT: May not have been fatal - I found this report:
                        "In the fall of 1998 in Ontario, 14 cases of food-borne illness including seven cases of confirmed E. coli O157:H7, were reported. Unpasteurized juice/cider was suspected in these cases. Local health officials identified one batch of unpasteurized non-commercial, custom-pressed apple cider as the most likely source."

                        http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/hl-vs/iyh-vsv/...

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                          ios94 Feb 8, 2012 10:03 AM

                          Exactly what BusterRhino said, "This was a highly thought out and very effective tactic by loblaws."
                          A very very deliberate and well thought out quote without any direct libel. Yet another reason why I stay away from big supermarkets.

                          Looks like the big guns are starting to get scared of the little guy these days, between the Weston quote and those ridiculous new Mcd's commercials about their beef being the same your grandmother used. Damn those commercials make me laugh.

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                            jamesm Feb 8, 2012 05:30 PM

                            The food my grandmother and mother made very well could have killed someone.

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                              ios94 Feb 20, 2012 05:03 AM

                              http://www.inspection.gc.ca/english/c...

                              Keep selling that great "food" Mr Weston.

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                                TexSquared Feb 20, 2012 08:43 AM

                                "President's Choice E. coli, it's worth switching supermarkets for...."

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                          Puffin3 Feb 20, 2012 07:32 AM

                          Let's agree 'Boy-Weston' doesn't take a le*k without first testing the notion on a marketing panel. Of course FM's are competing with his business. That's why it's called 'doing business'. I know of one case first hand where the only large grocery store in a Canadian town spend a year and a half in court trying to prevent another large grocery store from being built there. They lost. Then the same grocery store 'salted' the local Chamber of Commerce' with it's cronies when they heard a few local 'producers' were going to apply for a license to have a FM. Result? The FM vendors had one season within the town's boundaries and then for some strange reason no property owner within the town's borders would rent the FM space. Result? The FM moved just outside the town's borders and it was a 'booming' success and it continues to grow each year. The 'bad blood' all this caused has effected the every day shopping habits of a lot of the residents. Many have sworn never to shop at certain stores again.

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