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Chinese: where can I find these dishes?

rteplow Feb 1, 2012 09:42 AM

Just returned from China. I had some fantastic food that I hope I can find here. Most notably:

1. Had an epic meal at a hotel restaurant in Chaoyang (up north in Liaoning Province) where a standout dish was shrimp on skewers with red peppers. The red peppers where fried until dry and crispy. It was hot but not too hot for me (I don't have a lot of tolerance for too much heat). Generally curious about northern Chinese cuisine.

2. Also north: ate at a famous dumpling restaurant in Shenyang. Looking for great dumplings in NYC. Also looking for a wonderful tea they had at that restaurant: a beautiful combination of loose tea, flowers, spices and a lump of sugar sitting in the bottom of the covered tea cup. The waiter came by with a hot water pitcher with a spout that must have been 5' long and poured water into our cups -- didn't miss once.

3. Ate in the muslim neighborhood in Xi'an. Loved the spicy skewers of lamb, and the soup with some lamb flavor, but which was also made with rye bread, which imparted a nice flavor.

Have only scratched the surface of Chinese cuisine. Eager to try it all! Thanks in advance.

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    Daniel76 RE: rteplow Feb 1, 2012 11:25 AM

    How cool, I was just in Xi'an for a few days in late October. My hotel was right by the Muslim section and I ate several meals there.. The lamb skewars are pretty common just walking down the street in Flushing. can't help you with the lamb flavor soup with rye, though I had something with caraway in it at Henan Flavor..

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      missmasala RE: Daniel76 Feb 2, 2012 10:05 AM

      These mentions of rye bread and caraway intrigue me. I have had plenty of cumin in muslim and northern Chinese cuisine, but never any rye bread or caraway. Does anyone have any knowledge of how these foods are used in chinese cooking and the history behind them? Would love to hear about it.

      And what was the dish with caraway in it at Henan Flavor? Is Henan Flavor the Henan place in Manhattan's chinatown?

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        Miss Needle RE: missmasala Feb 2, 2012 10:44 AM

        The big tray chicken at Henan Flavor has a good amount of caraway. And, yes, it's the one on Forsyth Street in Manhattan's C-town.

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          scoopG RE: missmasala Feb 2, 2012 01:55 PM

          China is one the world's top producers of rye flour - mostly from the north. Caraway seeds I think also arrived in China from the north via Russia.

      2. scoopG RE: rteplow Feb 1, 2012 03:13 PM

        Flushing has at least four Manchurian (Northeastern China) restaurants:

        Fu Run
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/572882
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/750625

        Golden Palace
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/640895
        http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/10/din...

        Jiang Li – Northern/Manchurian:
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/714292

        Rural:
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/711399

        Not Manchurian but they have good dumplings and other dishes...
        Henan Fengwei:
        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/728696

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        Fu Run
        40-09 Prince St, Queens, NY 11354

        Golden Palace
        14009 Cherry Ave, Queens, NY 11355

        Rural
        42-85 Main St, Queens, NY 11355

        Jiang Li
        4418 Kissena Blvd, Queens, NY 11355

        Henan Feng Wei
        136-31 41st Ave, Queens, NY 11355

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          pravit RE: rteplow Feb 1, 2012 08:01 PM

          2. There are tons of good dumpling places in Manhattan, but they are almost all take-out only places with minimal seating.

          3. Xi'an Famous Foods! They have 3 locations in Manhattan and one in Flushing. Also, there is a lamb skewer guy with a cart near the Manhattan Bridge underpass area of Chinatown.

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          Xi'an Famous Foods
          41-28 Main St, Queens, NY 11355

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            limegimlet RE: rteplow Feb 1, 2012 08:55 PM

            i agree with pravit about limited seating spaces in nyc dumpling houses. however, i would definitely try venessa's dumpling house or prosperity dumpling house in chinatown. so so cheap and delicious. when you're there, be sure to also order a sesame pancake--it's unlike any other sesame pancake you've had, it's more like a warm sandwich in crusty sesame pizza bread filled with veggies, duck, pork...it's impossible to describe, just get one!

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              scoopG RE: limegimlet Feb 2, 2012 01:53 PM

              The OP is requesting places on the OB Board. Flushing offers far better dumpling (boiled and steamed) options than Manhattan. Xian Famous Foods has a location in Flushing Mall.

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              Flushing Mall Food Court
              133-31 39th Ave, Queens, NY 11354

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                rteplow RE: scoopG Feb 3, 2012 05:43 AM

                Actually, scoopG, I don't mind Manhattan suggestions. I live on the UWS, but thought it more likely that I'd find what I'm looking for in Flushing or Sunset Park (and was too lazy to repost on Manhattan board). Thanks though.

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                  scoopG RE: rteplow Feb 3, 2012 05:46 AM

                  rteplow, You will only find what you are looking for in Flushing!

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                    Lau RE: scoopG Feb 3, 2012 08:48 AM

                    agree with scoopG - you're only going to really find what you want in flushing

                    #1: not sure as i've never eaten that dish, but here's a great skewer restaurant in flushing
                    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/804075
                    http://www.lauhound.com/2011/08/sol-h...

                    #2: there are alot of good dumpling places in flushing, like white bear, but they are probably going to be quite different than the dumplings you're talking about
                    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/792866
                    http://www.lauhound.com/2011/06/white...

                    here's a decent rundown on flushing (w/ dumpling recs):
                    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/822943

                    #3:
                    - cumin skewers: there are alot of xinjiang bbq skewer places in flushing, i like the right in front of the chase bank that is on main street and i think 39th ave. they've got skewers with cumin
                    - lamp soup: there is the famous lamb noodle soup place
                    http://www.yelp.com/biz/lamb-noodle-s...

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                      jthefoodie RE: Lau Mar 10, 2012 07:20 PM

                      Lau, you seem like a wealth of knowledge on Chinese food in New York. I might have an opportunity for you this coming week, is there an email where I can reach you?

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                        Lau RE: jthefoodie Mar 12, 2012 06:31 AM

                        you can hit me at lauhound@gmail.com

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                  rschwim RE: scoopG Mar 12, 2012 10:24 AM

                  I'm pretty sure X'ian is gone from the Flushing Mall... As far as I know they're still in the Golden Mall

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                    Lau RE: rschwim Mar 12, 2012 10:29 AM

                    it is gone from the Flushing Mall and it is still open at the Golden Mall

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                birdsandtogs RE: rteplow Feb 2, 2012 03:19 PM

                I think the tea is called ba bao cha (eight treasures tea)? IIRC, that tea originated from the Hui Minority in Yunnan. They should sell that tea at Ten Ren.

                I remember drinking it a few times in China. There are actually tea pouring competitions all over the place over there. Alas, the few times I had that tea I didn't have anyone close to competing. There was hot water all over the table, with many apologies from the staff. I was having so much fun watching them try to pour water with that 5 foot long tea spout that I didn't really care if they missed the mark.

                Can't help you with #1, sorry. But there are tons of Dongbei restaurants in Flushing. I had something vaguely similar a month or two ago. It was quail with red peppers. They fried dried red peppers and quail till crisp then stir fried them together with Sichuan peppercorns, some cumin, green onions and garlic. They then drizzled the quail with some kind of sweet syrup. It was very tasty, but probably not what you had in Chaoyang. Man, I am now jonesing for that dish.

                Hope you're successful with your search, and please report back if you are. I would love to try that lamb soup with rye bread.

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                  scoopG RE: birdsandtogs Feb 3, 2012 05:47 AM

                  Golden Palace used to have that Quail dish as a special.

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