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Bernardin, Tocqueville or EMP for GF's b'day?

howdini Jan 30, 2012 01:34 PM

My lovely SO's birthday is in April, and I'm already thinking about where to take her. Neither of us have been to any of the above three, and I know I can't go wrong with any of them, but what do you all think?

GF has a couple of dietary restrictions (both self-imposed and medical): no pork, lobster, foie gras. She LOVES duck, so I'm thinking maybe EMP, for their famous off-menu roast duck?

All three are jacket-and-tie, as well, yes?

Thanks!

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    Sneakeater Jan 30, 2012 01:37 PM

    Le Bernardin and EMP are several cuts above Tocqueville.

    Given your SO's restrictions (and duck preference), EMP is probably a better choice (even if I personally prefer LeB -- AFAIK, I'm not your SO).

    None of them requires a tie.

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    Eleven Madison Park
    11 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10010

    Tocqueville
    1 East 15th Street, New York, NY 10003

    Le Bernardin
    155 W. 51st St., New York, NY 10019

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      howdini Jan 30, 2012 01:47 PM

      The fact that you can advise me on this matter proves that you are not my SO! I think...

      Would you happen to know if the duck at EMP is available at lunch?

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        Sneakeater Jan 30, 2012 01:58 PM

        Not me -- sorry.

        SOMEONE will know.

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          howdini Jan 30, 2012 02:20 PM

          Someone always does!

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          nmprisons Jan 30, 2012 02:01 PM

          So, technically it isn't (or at least isn't always, or at least wasn't as of maybe 18 months ago). But, if you request it when making your reservation it is unlikely to be a problem.

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            howdini Jan 30, 2012 02:20 PM

            Thanks, nmp!

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              nmprisons Jan 31, 2012 05:18 AM

              Ah. I am WRONG. The duck IS now available with lunch. My info is outdated. But, still, it never hurts to mention it when you call.

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                howdini Jan 31, 2012 08:35 AM

                No worries! This is all good info.

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              ejswanso Jan 30, 2012 07:28 PM

              Last time I was there about a month ago, the duck for two was standard on the lunch menu -- in your third row. And it appeared quite popular in the dining room. Also, it's ridiculously good.

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                nmprisons Jan 30, 2012 07:34 PM

                Your more recent report trumps mine. I do remember one time it being on the lunch menu when I was there and another time it not. I assume they only have a certain number of ducks in any event. Either way, the best bet is just to request one when you call.

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              nmprisons Jan 30, 2012 02:00 PM

              "Le Bernardin and EMP are several cuts above Tocqueville." - I agree 100%

              "Given your SO's restrictions (and duck preference), EMP is probably a better choice." - Yep.

              1. re: Sneakeater
                mizzanonymous Jan 31, 2012 08:35 AM

                Give Jung Sik some consideration, I was just there and I loved it.

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                2 Harrison St, New York, NY 10013

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                lexismore Jan 30, 2012 02:18 PM

                Another vote for EMP above Le Bernardin and Tocqueville.

                Also, Le Bernardin is jackets (no tie) required.

                The other two are nice, and you wouldn't feel out of place in a jacket, but they're not as strict.

                1. sgordon Jan 31, 2012 09:30 AM

                  Le B is the only one with a jacket requirement, as was pointed out above.

                  But that aside, Duck = EMP. It's a no-brainer.

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                    PorkyBelly Jan 31, 2012 03:02 PM

                    At EMP is it possible to get the duck and the tasting menu at dinner?

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                      sgordon Jan 31, 2012 03:35 PM

                      If you let them know in advance, pretty much anything is possible at EMP.

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                        howdini Jan 31, 2012 03:50 PM

                        Even rashpicox (rabbit stuffed in a sheep stuffed in a pig stuffed in a cow stuffed in an ox)?!?!

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                          nmprisons Jan 31, 2012 03:51 PM

                          Make sure to give them at least 36 hours on that one, and you might have to dine in the park.

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                            sgordon Jan 31, 2012 04:20 PM

                            The GF is taking me there for my birthday on the 15th, and I'm totally ordering it. I figure two weeks must be enough advance notice.

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                              howdini Jan 31, 2012 04:58 PM

                              It's a bit early in the season for ox, but by all means, go for it!

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