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Jan 28, 2012 07:33 PM

Tocqueville, The Modern (Bar Room), what else??

Hey guys,

Among the restaurants that I've tried, I've found Tocquiville and The Modern (Bar Room) to be amazing. What are some similar places in the same (or lesser) price range that I should try. I know that comparing Tocquiville and The Modern is a little hard since the former is relatively more classic and the latter is more out of the box / whimsical but both use French techniques (albeit, in different ways) and I guess that is what I'm looking for. I actually would give The Modern slightly higher points for food but of course Tocquiville wins on the ambiance front. Any borough is fine but Manhattan would be great.

I know that NYC does Italian very well but for this discussion, no Italian (I've been to Scarpetta and I guess should check out Babbo). Also since, we're talking about a medium price range here so no Bouley, Picholine, EMP, etc :-)

Some places that I was considering were:

1, Veritas - How is it without Grégory Pugin?
2. Aldea - This is not exactly French inspired but since the one time that I had Portuguese food (Ferreira Cafe in Montreal), I thought it was awesome, I have it here.
3. Public - I had attended an event here and thought that the food (which was off menu) was pretty good
4. La Grenouille
6. Degustation
5. Bolud Cafe - I so want to try Gavin Kaysen's food or Bolud Sud. Not sure if both of these would be stretching it price wise

What do people think about the above and what are some other places that can be added to this list?
Thanks a lot!!

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  1. I would suggest Jung Sik, I was just there last night and it was WONDERFUL

    Jung Sik
    2 Harrison St, New York, NY 10013

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    1. re: mizzanonymous

      JungSik, while totally freakin' awesome, may be a bit of a stretch for OP's "medium price range" at $115 for the full spread, no? It is absolutely "French techniques" (with a Korean twist) and "out of the box" though, so perhaps the more abbreviated 3+ courses for $80 ($85?) might work - there're a bunch of "extras" that would add up to a satisfying meal, imo (plus, I think the meat course was their weakest, relatively speaking, although I've only been once).

    2. Bouley's lunch is a steal - you'd likely get out of there cheaper than The Modern (Bar or Dining Room,) and definitely cheaper than La Grenouille.

      Cafe Boulud, also at lunch, compares favorably to prices at Tocqueville and The Modern - and Gavin is a helluva chef.

      Cafe Boulud
      20 East 76th St., New York, NY 10021

      163 Duane St, New York, NY 10013

      1. Forget Veritas! It used to be one of our favorites, and Pugin's cuisine was amazing. The food I had at our first meal after Hazan took over the kitchen was horrible. Mr. R. did convince me to give it another try, and the second meal, while not awful, was nothing better than just o.k. Best thing at both meals was dessert, especially the "Dark & Stormy." No matter. We will not be going back.

        We love La Grenouille!! The Dover sole with mustard sauce and the souffles are heavently. I would not classify it as in the medium-price range, but it's worth stretching your budget if you appreciate classical French cuisine.

        Aldea's food is not Portuguese but rather Portuguese-inspired contemporary American. It is delicious.

        43 East 20th St., New York, NY 10003

        La Grenouille
        3 East 52nd Street, New York, NY 10022

        31 West 17th Street, New York, NY 10011

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        1. re: RGR

          Aldea's food in not just Portuguese-inspired. They refer to it as "inspired by Iberian Peninsula" and which means it includes Spanish-inspiration as well, and it is evident in the menu.

        2. Ive been to both tocqueville and the modern bar room. I liked both a of my favorite places in the city is Perilla. Another good place is Park Avenue Summer/fall/winter/spring .. changes menus and decor every season

          9 Jones Street, New York, NY 10014

          Park Avenue Cafe
          100 E 63rd St, New York, NY 10021