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The Works - coming to The Danforth

I don't know if this is good or bad for us, but definitely not good news for Square Boy.

The Works has leased the spot where Patris was forever, and ever.

At least that corner will get cheered up.

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  1. Have you tried these? How are they? I'd thnk that the Square Boy customers will be happy to continue eating there. I doubt the Licks at Pape and Danforth is cutting into Square Boy's business either.

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    1. re: foodyDudey

      Never been, and I have no idea which is why I said that I didn't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing. I'm only spreading the news.

      I will certainly give them a try though, and I look forward to another option close to home.

      I'm am overjoyed to see that someone is finally investing in fixing up that shit hole corner.

    2. I wonder how long before the last Greek restaurant leaves Greek Town.
      I have heard that the rent is the reason many of the established places are disappearing. That and old age.

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      1. re: Herne

        I think you'll find that most of the Greek restaurants on the Danforth own their buildings.

      2. I have been to the one in Oakville. It is more of a "sit down and order" type place vs. a casual spot like Licks/etc. I haven't been to Square Boy before but imagine it is also more of a fast food type place? A burger from The Works takes about 20 minutes to make. I enjoyed my burger from there but the menu is a bit overwhelming.

          1. re: dubchild

            Like this:

            http://www.worksburger.com/Menus/OurM...

            Doesn't look like they will be creating any sleepless nights for Square boys, it's a totaly different product

          2. Oh yay! How happy have you made me. I hate walking by that dumpy building everytime I do for a walk. I love square boy but not so much for their burgers. They are ok, kind of mediocre. I do love square boys greek salads. I know that they are a cheap version of a greek salad with ice burg lettuce, bottled dressing but oh what a guilty pleasure.......
            Anyways, back to the topic of this thread, that's great news, thanks for sharing the good news!

            1. Interesting to see if the can capture the popularity they enjoy in the 'Twa.

              Personally I think that they may have an uphill battle as there are quite a few comparable, well established burger joints in the city that are not terribly far away, but then again, there really isn't anything like this on the Danforth anyway (at least not as far as I am aware)...

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              1. re: Lazar

                I've been wondering when the burger trend would hit the Danforth. It's oversaturated just about everywhere else yet we had nothing (other than the old standby Greek diners). I think there is room for it, especially a family-friendly place with seating. Hopefully they also have a tasty product because I have a feeling my family will be there a lot. That said Motorama tried opening for dinner and was dead. Square Boy's continued popularity frankly amazes me...

                1. re: julesrules

                  What don't you get about Square Boy? I've never eaten in myself, but the food is what it's supposed to be. Great guys working there forever and their sandwiches/burgers/souvlaki are great go-tos on the way home a few times a year.

                  1. re: neighborguy

                    Fair enough :) I honestly believe that the fact they have parking right on the Danny is a big part of their success too. Just not my thing I guess.

                    1. re: julesrules

                      I hear you about the VERY valid parking feature. If they didn't have the lot right there would I stop in? Hmmm...I have to say I would...Don't forget it's not a chain and you don't get the cookie-cutter experience.

              2. Is it just me or are the prices insane? $12 + for a burger with no side included??

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                1. re: Baelsette

                  There's a side included. You have your choice of a few without extra charge, including sweet potato fries. Read the part below the burgers on the menu. Perhaps you saw the prices for the upgraded sides.

                  I LOVE The Works and miss it now that I'm not in Ottawa.

                2. I did misread, thanks for the clarification! The burgers and toppings do look delish!

                  1. I'm planning to go to the location that recently opened in Guelph, probably tomorrow. Will post about my experiences afterwards.

                    1. Blech. The search for the perfect burger continues. We had lunch at the Guelph location today. The first thing that shocked us were the prices: over $9 for a tower of onion rings and a minimum of over $11 for a burger (the prices increase with the number/choice of toppings).

                      Being a breaded onion ring lover, and reading on the menu that burgers take at least 20 minutes to cook (!!!), we ordered the rings as soon as we sat down. They were okay, not greasy, decent breading, but not amazing. We waited and waited for our burgers, probably longer than 20 minutes.

                      I had intentionally ordered a rather plain burger -- just cheddar, raw onion and tomato -- to be able to judge the burger on its own merit rather than its toppings. When we ordered, we asked if they'd make them to order, i.e., at least on the pink side in the middle. Our server responded that their burgers are a bit pink in the centre but are well done. Umm... not a good omen.

                      The char-grilled (the only option) patties were quite thick; not sure of number of ounces since it's not indicated on the menu. I took a taste of the patty on its own before biting into the burger and there appeared to be no seasoning at all on the meat. I'm not a fan of weirdly spiced burgers, but some salt and pepper would have been appreciated. Not much flavour there.

                      Unfortunately, my visions of a juices-dripping-down-the-arm burger quickly evaporated. This was one of the driest hamburgers (and not the slightest hint of pink inside) I've ever had. Couldn't - and didn't want to - finish mine, nor did my husband finish his.

                      Burgers come with a choice of potatoes, with other options available at a hefty premium. We ordered the sweet potato fries and the regular fries. The sweet potato fries were pretty good; the regular fries were quite dry and mealy. I'd also ordered a chocolate milkshake; again, no flavour (I'm quite sure there was no chocolate syrup in there) and weirdly thick and unappetizing as served in a one-cup measuring cup. Took one sip and left it; our server made no mention of this...

                      The bill for two burgers, a tower of onion rings, one beer, and one kid-sized chocolate milkshake came to $52 with tax, before tip. Not planning to return.

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                      1. re: Tatai

                        What a ripoff. Thanks for saving me the trip!

                        1. re: Tatai

                          Hmmm Tatai. I think either they were having a REALLY off day, or the quality isn't the same in Guelph as I've experienced in Ottawa. Either way, it's unfortunate.

                          1. re: CanadaGirl

                            Just curious, CanadaGirl, are the burgers you get in Ottawa pink inside and juicy or dry like mine was, with nary a drop of "juice" spilling onto my plate? I doubt that the prices are any lower in Ottawa...

                            I also don't think the Guelph location was having an off day; judging by the reaction of our server at the end of the meal (when I complained about the dry, overcooked burger), and the fact that she told us initially that "they ARE well done," this is how they always cook their hamburgers.

                            1. re: Tatai

                              The ones I've had weren't pink, as I don't like them that way, but they were not dry either. I have had burger juice over my hands often!! We did have a bad experience once with dry burgers in a newly opened location, but it was fixed when we returned. If the server didn't see a problem, maybe the quality at this location isn't quite up to par. Too bad. The rings don't sound quite right either. We have them often an have never waited 20 minutes (!!) for them. They've always been very tasty, but definitely on the greasy side, although not enough for us to mind.

                              1. re: CanadaGirl

                                You read my post wrong: knowing we'd have a long wait for the burgers, we ordered the onion rings before placing the burger order and got them fairly quickly; it was the burgers that took well over 20 minutes.

                                1. re: CanadaGirl

                                  I have eaten at the oakville location 3 times.The burgers were always very juicy and tasty.The fries were also good,not dry.We also liked the onion rings.I prefer battered onion rings but I like the works breaded onion rings are good.My son and I also liked their milk shakes.We all thought it was unusual and different to have drinks in measuring cups and light bulbs as salt and pepper shakers.I also tried the ground turkey and it was good but the beef burger is better.My friend had the veggie burger.She said it was really good.
                                  We also really liked organic big burger and hope they re-open somewhere close.

                                  1. re: ninja5ca

                                    I recall going to the Square Boy in the late 50's --not since. For a good burger try the Brass Taps at Logan. Less than $!0. Not a masterpiece but certainly better than we are getting descriptions of for this place.

                          2. Thanks for the review. I can't believe the price, $52??? Oh I'm disappointed to hear this......

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                            1. re: Baelsette

                              Here's the menu for the Guelph location: http://worksburger.com/Menus/OurNewMe... I can think of much better ways to spend 50+ bucks!

                            2. Construction is underway!

                              1. Free lunch at the works today. They officially open tomorrow but were giving away free lunches today and asking people to make a donation to the Pape st. food bank.
                                Went in, place looks great, you would never know it used to be Pastis, totally and complete overhaul. Very loud but good great music playing. Very kid friendly.
                                Service was very friendly and accommodating. Food took a LONG time, 1 hr! I can't fault them though as it's the first day. Wait staff was very apologetic.
                                Burger was good, had a spicy burger with jalapenos, sour cream and avocado. Only complaint was that they didn't ask how I wanted the burger done, nor did I specify. Burger came quite well done. Next time I will know! Had onion rings as a side, were nice and crispy and served with a mayonnaise type sauce.
                                Menu is enormous and a little daunting.....
                                I will definitely go back, nice to have this option so close to home.

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                                1. re: Baelsette

                                  Yes I saw the lineups coming home from work and immediately knew - must be free. Very nice way for them to kick off. Full props for that alone.

                                  Can't wait to check it out!

                                  1. re: Baelsette

                                    They won't cook your burger to your specifications. Well done is the only possibility. We ate at the location in Guelph a couple of months ago. The burgers took ages to come and were so dry and unappealing we vowed never to return.

                                  2. Really that`s shocking. Funny, I ordered off the kids menu for my toddler yesterday and her burger was pink inside which is a no no...... I`m really shocked and disappointed to hear that.

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                                    1. re: Baelsette

                                      Really wanted to like this place - so close to home and all but what a huge disappointment.

                                      The good - the staff are a bunch of pleasant, keen and eager kids. Very upbeat and trying their best.

                                      The food is lousy. Worst burger ever!!

                                      Mr MG had a basic bacon cheeseburger and me being on a diet, ordered the veggie burger. The waitress said their veggie burgers were "really good". Wouldn't have mattered much because both were almost unedible. Extremely overcooked and over seasoned.

                                      Not only that - everything arrived to our table stone cold. It doesn't help that they serve things in stone cold metal tins.

                                      Crappy ceasar salad - a few torn limp lettuce leaves in a wierd kind of dressing with fake shredded cheddar cheese. A 3 very enormous triangles of toast. What a joke. Even Pizza Pizza does a better job of it. How uninspired.
                                      Onion rings were the best part of the meal - which for the most part we left behind.

                                      The bill was $41 for 2 burgers and one onion rings. Highway robbery and a total rip off.
                                      Speaking of rip offs - I was asked what side I would like to which I replied ceasar salad. On the way home I noticed we were charged 2.09 for same ceasar.

                                      I asked Mr MG not to complain or say anything - because I felt it would fall on deaf ears and what would be the point really - the kids seemed so keen and all - and there didn't seem to be an owner/manager in view so I just wanted to get out of there at this point. Didn't really matter because we were never asked anyway.

                                      They advertise 70 burgers. The basic cheeseburger has been named The Ho Hum - you can say that again!!

                                      Actually it was a downright depressing experience.

                                      1. re: millygirl

                                        Wow, sounds like a horrible experience. My burger was pretty decent when I went to the Oakville opening. Sounds like they have quality control issues. Definitely not the best burger ever but far from the worst when I had mine

                                        1. re: millygirl

                                          Very sorry to hear about your experience. My SO and I have been to the Burlington location on several occasions. We have found the burgers to be delish with wonderful, quirky combinations of ingredients. Buns were fresh and tasty. Surprised that no one has mentioned the milkshakes which are to die for. Reminds me of the old diners with fresh ingredients served in the aluminum can. I guess that each location is somewhat unique, not necessarily in a good way.

                                      2. My recent experience...

                                        We went on Sunday night of the long weekend, and were seated right away. It's bigger than I thought it was with the front room (visible from street) an elevated area toward to the back. We were seated in the galley by the bussing station so it wasn't great.

                                        They were busy and our server did her best. We started just with pop to drink, which comes in measuring cups. Not sure what that's all about.

                                        We were interested in the starters but weren't hungry enough for them. I ordered the "After Works" (garlic, tomato, feta, olives, wilted spinach) on the turkey patty with no bun, and the side salad. Partner ordered the "Three Ring Binder" which includes 3 onion rings and various cheeses and sauces on a standard beef patty. I have to admit the variety of toppings and the choice of patties is overwhelming but welcome.

                                        It takes 20 minutes for the burgers to arrive, but they warn you. I've ordered no bun at Shake Shack and Burger's Priest, where they wrap your whole patty in a lettuce wrap instead, but here it was just served on one wilted piece of Boston. The topping was yummy but it was luke warm and the patty was dry and uninteresting (I chose turkey over chicken breast because thought it would be more seasoned...nope). The side salad was a mixed green with two cherry tomatoes, two slices of cuke, and shredded carrots and raw red onion. McDonalds makes better. Partner liked his burger well enough, and the fries (thicker, skin-on cut) were yummy.

                                        I finished with a shake (when in Rome) - they do vanilla ice cream and you can choose your mix-ins, so I did oreo and butterscotch. Holy yummy, but 16oz (the standard size) was too much for me. Next time, kids size.

                                        Overall it was a decent experience. I'd go back because I want to try more and I live walking distance and there's not much decent sit-down non-Greek food nearby.

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                                        1. re: LemonLauren

                                          Whoa....just to get this straight -

                                          "....the patty was dry and uninteresting''' served on wilted lettuce and luke warm....
                                          and you call this a 'decent experience"??

                                          1. re: millygirl

                                            it's all relative. I'd go back to try other options, because it's SO close, and because my partner liked it.

                                        2. Why anyone on or near the Danforth would not have I.M.O. the best patty in town at Allen's at the best patio around sort of amazes me. Licks is the worst burger in town just ahead of Harvey's mystery meat and my experience with The Works in Oakville, on a Tuesday evening with only a handful of customers...dry burgers, fall-apart buns, cold fries and a waitress who couldn't stop texting, turned me off of this place forever. I'd rather share a can of Spam in a back alley with a pack of strays. Square Boy at least has the old Saturday Night Live riff still going for it..."Cheeseburger - Cheeseburger- Cheeseburger"

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                                          1. re: TorontoTuna

                                            About 5 years ago I stood in front of the station near the front door waiting while an employee took part in a personal telephone call. After about 6-7 minutes I left and never returned.
                                            I had been there once before and the patio is indeed superb. That's it.

                                          2. I went to the oakville location, we got warned for the time and it was expensive but I had the turkey burger and I have to say I really enjoy it, the burger tasted like real turkey. I would go again, it was worth it to me.
                                            I found it amusing the menu has two pages dedicated only to toppings combo for the burger and came with the server giving us a tutorial on how to use it (like, I found out you can change some things on the burger with no charge), I would suggest to go at least once for the experience.
                                            (I want to try the hunka hunka burger - banana, peanut butter and bacon. just because it is there)

                                            1. I've been following this thread with sadness. The Works in Ottawa was AWESOME. Sounds like the move to a franchise system hasn't gone very well :(

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                                              1. re: CanadaGirl

                                                Not sure if it really hasn't gone well, CanadaGirl, or if the few complainers are prone to post their reviews ;)
                                                Not that I'm defending the place, but I think with any reviews on Chowhound, one has to take it with a grain of salt.

                                                I haven't tried any GTA locations of The Works yet, but last saturday, I was at the one in Guelph, and thought the food was excellent, just as good as the ones I have tried in London and Kingston. It's not gourmet, but for a sit-down burger restaurant, I can't think of anything better in Canada that I've tried. (Then again, I am keen to try the burger at Stack BBQ on Yonge near Lawrence - I really liked their ribs)

                                                1. re: FresserGuy

                                                  I support your comments FresserGuy. We all like salt, and sometimes if we can take a step back and reflect, we can remember that this board is one of opinions and comments. The diversity that is Canada is one to cherish, and one to refelct upon, not unlike comments posted to this board. I have been to several locations of The Works, and while they are not cookie cutter relections of each other, and at times the service has needed work, they are what they proclaim themselves to be - a fun, interesting restaurant chain, with time a efforts being made to keep it that way, that offers a great deal of choice and uses quality ingredients to get the best tasting food onto the plates and into my belly. I too bemoan the fall of grace of Lick's as it is, in my opinion offered here on this board, a faint shadow of what once was, and it is only too easy to blame the "curse of franchising" as the cause of the fall.

                                                  1. re: meathead2

                                                    Good perspective :)

                                                    (and I think the drinks in measuring cups is ADORABLE)

                                              2. Went last night. The burgers were not overcooked or dry, in fact some of ours had pink in the middle, although I suspect that was a mistake!
                                                Unfortunately the beef patties at least seemed completely unseasoned, you really need the toppings for flavour.
                                                Service was great. We'll be back because my kids liked it, although the kids' meal burger is quite small, not enough food for my one kid who does not like potatoes so won't fill up on the fries.
                                                For the four of us with 2 pints - $60. Perceived value will be better if you have young kids because of the kids' meals with drink & dessert, but I would not want to feed teens here.
                                                That block was lacking a sit-down family restaurant and given all the
                                                marginal businesses along there - I feel we (the immediate hood) could have done worse. Of course we could have done better, but I hope like with Starbucks better things will follow.

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                                                1. re: julesrules

                                                  Forgot to mention I did like the bold slaw someone suggested in another thread. It is one of the included side options.

                                                2. Has anyone figured out a decent order here? Taking my kid again, and have only had overly salty or sweet burgers so far. How's the mushroom or turkey?

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                                                  1. re: julesrules

                                                    O mores, O tempores.

                                                    Big Fat Burrito on Vic Park near Lawrence (and Five Guys) offers a gastronomically nothing and cheap to make burrito for, say between $7 and $10.50. They had a lineup when I was there to check it out.

                                                    Works is so expensive for about the about $1.50 worth of ingredients in a burger! And then they get you on toppings drinks , sides etc.

                                                    Square Boy for me was unpalatable.

                                                    No wonder everybody in town is opening up a burger place instead of a French restaurant.

                                                    I suggest going to one of the falafel- shawarma places on Lawrence, east of Vic Pk.. $ 3 to 4 gets you a big, delicious (depends where ) sandwich.

                                                    While you are there take a trip through one of the big Arabic grocery stores. Arz has the best pita; Wadi has an excellent selection of olives and some pickling . Open display and unattended, with containers for the pits of the olives which you have tasted.

                                                    My fave is Al Tanoor on a samoon ( house made white bun). Two for $7, one is enough.
                                                    Tell then NOT to put it in the sandwich press.

                                                    If you gottado it, there is Big Mo (named after his buns) but only on Tuesday when a cheeseburger is $2.49 instead of $5.49 or something like that. The deep fried potato slices are good. Located on te south side , just west of Al Tanoor and Ibrahim. Can't miss it . Big sign says Big Mo.

                                                    1. re: Vinnie Vidimangi

                                                      But Vinnie. I have COUPONS. Better yet, I got them at the school silent auction. So my $36 went to the school, and I got about $70 worth of burgers and onion rings. How can you not like that math?
                                                      But now I gotta eat there. My kids love it and it's very local so I
                                                      take them for birthdays/last day of school, and manage to avoid it the rest of the time.

                                                      1. re: julesrules

                                                        Ha, I loved your response to Vinnie.

                                                        I see all of the Works places being super busy whenever I pass by them. They have definitely found a market (maybe people that have moved on from Lick's?).

                                                        1. re: julesrules

                                                          Way to go Jules!
                                                          And I commend you for raising your children well!

                                                        2. re: Vinnie Vidimangi

                                                          So to summerize your answer to Jule's question, you have no idea.

                                                          DT

                                                          1. re: Davwud

                                                            It's ok, he duly informed me that there are good falafels in Scarborough - I had NO idea!

                                                            1. re: julesrules

                                                              He is absolutely right about Al Tanoor. About once a week I try to figure out a way to be in that area. I'm hooked on shawarma (beef/chicken mixed) on samoon.

                                                              DT

                                                              1. re: julesrules

                                                                Just because there are a lot of Arabic places in Scarborough making a lot of falafel doesn't mean that any of it is GOOD.
                                                                The best that I have had there I would grade as no more than a "B".

                                                          2. re: julesrules

                                                            I actually really dig the turkey. Blasphemy!

                                                            1. re: LemonLauren

                                                              I might give that a go, and choose my toppings carefully.

                                                              1. re: julesrules

                                                                I went with turkey, and a topping combo of caramelized onions, Gouda, horseradish and Dijonnaise-type sauce. Definitely the best I've had yet. The turkey burger is of course turkey, but lightly/appropriately seasoned, unlike the bland beef. The onions were probably sweetened, as was the horseradish, so the result was a bit too sweet, but way better balanced than other options I've had.
                                                                I like the onion rings, breaded rather than battered, my preference. They didn't ask for our dip selections but brought us chipotle mayo, which is quite spicy and not sweet, next time I will look for a burger that has it.
                                                                Honestly - I get why they are not a chowhound kinda place - but my area can do a lot worse, so I appreciate that they invested in our block. They are having daily specials of one rotating burger, side and a pop, for $10 including tax. Not a bad deal at all.

                                                                1. re: julesrules

                                                                  I love The Works (but I'm in Halifax, not the GTA). That said, I've been to The Works a few times here in Halifax, and many times in Ottawa.

                                                                  My favourite burger, far and away, is the 3-Ring Binder, hold the mushrooms. It is jalapeño jack cheese, chipotle mayo and 3 onion rings. Delicious.

                                                                  1. re: CanadaGirl

                                                                    Yeah, I've never quite understood the hate for The Works on here. Granted, I only went once, around when the Bloor West location first opened -- it's certainly possible that the above average burger I got was an abberation, and that it's normally mediocre. Who knows.

                                                                    1. re: Michael N

                                                                      I was thinking the same thing. I had a decent experience at the Oakville location when they first opened. I recently got take out from the Milton restaurant and it was night and day (from service to quality of food).... I would go again to a spot that was similar to my first experience but not keen to return to the 2nd experience.

                                                                      1. re: ylsf

                                                                        Hm. As someone who occasionally blogs about food, I'm always a bit paranoid that I might catch a crappy restaurant on a good day, or a good restaurant on a bad day, and then write a review that isn't representative of the restaurant's food. Sounds like that might have happened to me with this place. I guess that's why professional reviewers visit a place multiple times. Oh well.

                                                                      2. re: Michael N

                                                                        Interesting... I've never understood the positive comments about this place. Found it expensive and the food just meh... (at least in the Waterloo location)

                                                                        Better local options here, IMO.

                                                            2. The Works (like many others have stated), is expensive. But, you do get lots of options. I had the elk, and was pleased. I also like the variety of sides (including deep fried pickles!), and Coke floats.

                                                              If you are looking for burger on the Danforth, try these options:
                                                              - for gourmet burger, go to Allen's (pricey, but good)
                                                              - very good sliders and poutine, go to Slider Revolution
                                                              - for big, garlicky, cheap and messy, go to Detroit Eatery

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                                                              1. re: Shari_Toronto

                                                                Slider Revolution closed about a month ago.

                                                                1. re: Shari_Toronto

                                                                  I never got the whole Works thing, though I live a five minute walk from it.

                                                                  It's not terrible, per se (and miles better than Square Boy's burger, though their gyros on a bun is the ultimate hangover cure), but when you have options like GBK (the one on Gerrard is exceptional- nothing like the one on Esplanade) and Priest a short drive away, why bother spending money on something mediocre?

                                                                  1. re: biggreenmatt

                                                                    Sit down, beer, kid-friendly ice cream options etc. I'm not trying to sell anyone on the Works, far from it, but it's not trying to fill the same niche as GBK or BP.

                                                                2. At 4 toronto locations they are doing a promo, $10 tax in for a combo. Only valid Monday to Friday and a different featured burger each day.

                                                                  http://worksburger.com/WORKS/MediaLib...

                                                                  The thread on RFD that I found out about this from that also lists what is teh burger of the day:
                                                                  http://forums.redflagdeals.com/toront...

                                                                  Also, Barrie and Brampton are both doing a "Free" promo over the next few days for their grand opening:

                                                                  http://forums.redflagdeals.com/works-...

                                                                  1. And… it's now closed. Anyone know what happened?

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                                                                    1. re: gnuf

                                                                      Mildly sad (my kids liked it and it was convenient) but not surprised. I don't think they ever got the volume they were expecting and they were dead, but slow to get the food out, last time we went. I think some other locations opened around the same time (Beaches?) are long closed.

                                                                    2. The space has been leased, anyone have the buzz on what's going in?

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                                                                      1. re: Baelsette

                                                                        Rumour says Shopsy's or "Gourmet Burger". I am so disinterested in the latter that I haven't bothered to figure out whether that was meant in a general way or refers to a specific chain. I'm not much interested in Shopsy's either, didn't even realize that was still a thing...

                                                                        1. re: julesrules

                                                                          Gourmet Burger likely refers to the Gourmet Burger Co., which is definitely nothing to get too excited about.

                                                                          1. re: julesrules

                                                                            Shopsy's still exists in name which currently belongs to the Quinn family that also runs the Irish Embassy and PJ O'Brien.

                                                                            Nothing to see here, move along, move along

                                                                            1. re: bytepusher

                                                                              It's been a couple weeks since the Priest opened a new place.......

                                                                              DT

                                                                        2. I'm trying to imagine Shopsy owned by an Irish family, sounds like two puzzle pieces that just don't fit!!