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Pillivuyt dishes/bakers - breaking characteristics?

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GH1618 mentioned Pillivuyt bakers on a different thread talking about cracks in ceramics.

This may be a strange question but does anyone know the likelihood of these breaking and their characteristics when they do?

Especially with a daughter who enjoys baking, I am concerned about the pyrex "exploding" issue and would like to have an alternative to pyrex baking pans and pie plates.

(I'm ok with dishes breaking when you do something wrong or when they are just old. I'm not ok with the possibility of flying shards of glass. Please don't delve into whether or not I SHOULD be concerned about the pyrex exploding - I think that's been covered pretty well in the set of pyrex threads.)

The Pillivuyt web site says their products are resistant to thermal shock. Specifically: "Resistant to thermal shocks. Pillivuyt products can withstand temperatures ranging from -15°F to +575°F (-25°C +300°C ) and go directly from freezer to oven or microwave" http://www.pillivuytus.com/quality3.html

My questions:
* if a Pillivuyt dish is pulled out of the hot oven and put on a cool/wet surface, I assume it has a likelihood of breaking..... if it does, will the porcelain "explode"/shatter or will it crack into pieces but without flying shards?

* if the dish is dropped and broken are the pieces likely to be tiny shards or more likely to be bigger segments (corelle typically becomes tiny sharp shards so I'm looking for alternatives for that as well...

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* what would be the best alternative to pyrex pie plates from the perspective of producing a good end product as well as safety?

Thanks!

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  1. Failure mode may depend on a lot of factors, so this isn't a question that's going to be easy to answer. I've seen glasses hit tile floors and shatter but into tiney squares more like safety glass only without the tie layer. But that doesn't mean they all do that. We have some Pillivuyt, but fortunately we haven't broken any.

    Ceramic pie plates work very well, Emilie Henry has a very good product. If it's dropped I would think there is a risk of sharp pieces, but I doubt it would explode like the Pyrex.

    Sorry I couldn't be of more hlep, you might e-mail Pillivuyt and see if they can explain the failure mode for their products.

    1. I thought I'd sign up to reply to this post.
      Pillivuyt is something that I'm quite passionate about. I am kitting out my kitchen with their plates to casserole dishes. I have had one break so far, I dropped a small 2 oz dish from quite a hight onto tiles, anyway yes it broke but neatly into two big pieces and perhaps 3 small shards that just were a breeze to sweep up. I highly reccommed in investing in Pillivuyt, because things do break, that isn't the issue for me, but I don't want to deal with a kitchen laced in shards of glass.
      The other reason I love them is when making say a lasagna you can brown it under the broiler and be sure it isn't going to blow up in your face when you check on it.

      1. Thanks for the replies. My daughter is learning to make pies from Grandma (who uses old Pyrex) so this information is helpful. (of course, my daughter's comment when she saw the Pyrex Explodes thread is that she would love to see the explosion!)