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If Taiwan President Elect, 馬英九 Ma Ying Jiu, were to Visit Manhattan, what would you suggest for Dining Out

jonkyo Jan 19, 2012 08:31 PM

If Taiwan President Elect, 馬英九 Ma Ying Jiu, were to Visit Manhattan what would you suggest?

Would you try to satisfy his native taste? and if so, where is that to be found?

Bring him in peaceful unison through taste with his adversaries on the Mainland? And where would that be found (ie: Shanghai cusine; Hunan Cusine etc etc?

Or just offer him something that is so NYC? And where would that be found?

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    AubWah RE: jonkyo Jan 20, 2012 05:01 PM

    Esca

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    Esca
    402 West 43rd Street, New York, NY 10036

    1. porker RE: jonkyo Jan 20, 2012 09:13 PM

      I dunno.

      When travelling, I really don't want what I can get around the corner 指日可待, so no, I wouldn't try to satisfy his native taste.

      Go early and get a seat at Babbo bar and have a great meal, geting tanked up 醉 on Italian vino. After this, take a taxi to Cayote Ugly.

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      Babbo
      110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

      Coyote Ugly
      153 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

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        sgordon RE: porker Jan 21, 2012 07:49 AM

        Coyote Ugly? Please, this is a high-ranking politician. Take him to Scores or The Penthouse Club.... or maybe NY Dolls, if he's trying to remain anonymous. Better the low-rent clubs where he's least likely to be recognized.

        But seriously, I wouldn't take him for Taiwanese (or any kind of Asian) food. He can get most of that at home. Take him to Del Posto or Eleven Madison Park or something.

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        Eleven Madison Park
        11 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10010

        Del Posto
        85 10th Avenue, New York, NY 10011

      2. K K RE: jonkyo Jan 20, 2012 11:04 PM

        As excellent as NY's regional Chinese food scene is, I would skip Chinese altogether given the breadth and depth of what the prez has access to at home, unless he were to have a hankering for Chinese food. Skip Japanese as well, as the best in TW rivals Japan. So no 15 East, Yasuda, Masa, or wherever Bourdain went (there are Masa quality restaurants in Taipei for a fraction of the cost, even if the quality is not the same).

        Stick with perhaps the perfect steakhouse. American beef in Taipei is a bit of an exotic import since most restaurants prefer to import Australian beef.

        Something high end like Per Se, Daniel, Marea, Babbo's or whatever is the best regional old world style Italian, maybe Russian. And something that screams NY in quality. Wouldn't hurt to find a place that does a killer lobster too, or high end preparations of exquisite seafood, then some thousand dollar spoonfuls of caviar and champagne perhaps for dessert. But not the $1000+ sundae from Serendipity...that's silly.

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        Per Se
        10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

        Babbo
        110 Waverly Pl, New York, NY 10011

        Marea
        240 Central Park South, New York, NY 10019

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          vinouspleasure RE: K K Jan 21, 2012 07:29 AM

          I'd bring him to 53rd &6th and see if he tries to cut the line.

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          Halal Chicken and Gyro
          106 W 53rd St, New York, NY 10019

        2. twyst RE: jonkyo Jan 21, 2012 07:52 AM

          Per Se would be the most obvious choice, but also a very good one. It may very well be the best restaurant in the country and I think thats what you should aim for.

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          Per Se
          10 Columbus Circle, New York, NY 10019

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            sgordon RE: twyst Jan 21, 2012 08:31 AM

            Funny, there was an article in Gourmet a few years ago where they took three of China's top chefs to The French Laundry. They were less-than-impressed:

            http://www.gourmet.com/magazine/2000s...

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              Monica RE: sgordon Jan 23, 2012 07:41 AM

              Interesting article. Thanks for sharing.

          2. K K RE: jonkyo Jan 21, 2012 09:37 AM

            I had only found out just now that Ma spent time in NY furthering his studies (and was born in Hong Kong)

            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma_ying_...

            So that would depend also what he enjoyed eating during his time in NY. He has been known to show up at some of his favorite street food haunts in Taiwan (aka the really cheap and good stuff that stood the test of time) so maybe something like Katz or Coney Island hot dogs/Nathan's, won't be turned away by him, especially if he is sentimental when it comes to food (which I know a number of expats usually are when they study abroad).

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            Katz's Delicatessen
            205 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

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              porker RE: K K Jan 21, 2012 10:52 AM

              I agree.
              Of course the Cayote Ugly rec above was tongue in cheek after 2 bottles of wine, but the point being a high-ranking politician may likely be tired of the red carpet treatment (I'd be). Scrap super-high-end and go with something New Yorkish.
              Katz et al? maybe for lunch.
              For dinner, something a bit more substantial, and don't forget the booze (maybe bar-hopping first, then dinner, thats what Porker would do!)

            2. jonkyo RE: jonkyo Jan 21, 2012 06:08 PM

              One may be limited due to familiarity of the guest dining.

              I once took a Taiwan friend and tutor to Astoria to Greek cuisine and her palate was not used to the generalized taste such as olive. She was so unimpressed, and actually lived just in the area.

              Jesus offering wine is a great idea, and perhaps this should be what Jesus is remembered for.

              I would agree offerings might be more simple or less of a landed gentry venue and more in the commoner realm such as begin with a bar crawl then hitting a diner at 4 am.

              another opposition be some of the more local bar restaurants in East Harlem , for not really the food but the atmosphere and local culture.

              Ma Ying Jiu dancing to one of the juke boxes of these Mexican and latin places might be what this president elect needs to bring him into more of a global yet local feel for NYC.

              If we could get Putin and Ma together I think it could be really festive, calling for a bit more consideration.

              As for Katz, I would go father and put Sammy's Romanian Steakhouse would be a must.

              Katz, I would add, I refuse to go, and only go in for the toilet. The last time I did that, I told the ticket guy at the door 'Where are the Jewish people cooking the Jewish food?' The door man stated 'Its us now, we have taken over'. It was a good laugh for us both, but does make the point that it is kind of nice to have continuity with chefs, owners and wait staff. I think Ma would agree, and so would Putin.

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              Sammy's Roumanian
              157 Chrystie St, New York, NY 10002

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                K K RE: jonkyo Jan 21, 2012 11:07 PM

                There are Mexican restaurants now in Taipei, but maybe nowhere near as popular. Ditto for German food. So maybe after some hardcore steak, time for Das Boot.

                Basically anywhere but David Chang's.

              2. David11238 RE: jonkyo Jan 21, 2012 06:19 PM

                Gray's Papaya, Katz's and Marea.

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                Katz's Delicatessen
                205 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

                Gray's Papaya
                402 6th Ave, New York, NY 10014

                Marea
                240 Central Park South, New York, NY 10019

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                  foodmonk RE: David11238 Jan 22, 2012 05:16 AM

                  Definitely Katz's ... and some soul food in Harlem. Give the guy a chance to eat something he won't find as easily in Taiwan.

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                    David11238 RE: foodmonk Jan 22, 2012 08:45 AM

                    I wanted to say Saratoga Kitchen in Brooklyn for soul food. But, I believe the OP wants Manhattan, strictly.

                2. Charles Yu RE: jonkyo Jan 22, 2012 08:01 AM

                  I would invite chefs Keller, Boulud, Ripert, Batali....etc and cook him a special private dinner at the consulate!!

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                    swannee RE: jonkyo Jan 22, 2012 09:25 AM

                    Sammy's or maybe someplace completely silly like Churrasqueria Plataforma. Anything Asian would seem a bit useless. Or if he is a nostalgia freak (like me) and loves Proust---La Grenouille!

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                    La Grenouille
                    3 East 52nd Street, New York, NY 10022

                    Sammy's Roumanian
                    157 Chrystie St, New York, NY 10002

                    Churrascaria Plataforma
                    316 West 49th Street, New York, NY 10019

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