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WS All-Clad D5 SS 10 piece set....good deal?

ORtastytravels Jan 16, 2012 03:21 PM

I was originally shopping for a couple of new all-clad fry pans. While browsing I came across WS All-Clad D5 stainless steel 10 piece set on sale. Originally $1450, now $949.95. Free gifts offered with purchase and free shipping. It sounded like a good deal me. My pots could use a replacement too. What do you all think? Good deal or not?


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  1. Chemicalkinetics RE: ORtastytravels Jan 16, 2012 03:52 PM

    Personally, it is not a good deal for me. However, everyone is looking for different characteristics in their cookware, so it really depends on you. Let me start with what not to like, and end with what to like.

    What not to like:
    It is a set. Usually what works best for a pot is not what work best for a frying pan. As such, I am not a fan for a set
    I prefer carbon steel over stainless steel surface for frying pans.
    It is expensive when you compare it to other alternative. The original All-Clad triply 10 piece set is $694. Other competitors are even cheaper.
    What is most ridiculous is the "Sugg. Price: $1,450.00 Our Price: $949.95 " All Clad d5 is exclusive to Williams Sonoma. As such, what does it even mean the suggestive price is $1450.00 and our price is $949.95? No one is selling the set at $1450.
    Here is another perfect example. An exclusive Henckels knife with a suggested price of $1695 and is being sold at $1000. This is an even bigger "price drop" than the d5 cookware. Do you think it is a good deal?


    What to like:
    It is All Clad, and it is 5 ply stainless steel with the alternating layer design.
    It has an improved smoother and bigger handle
    It has pour rim or flared edge.
    It has size marking on the cookware

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      GH1618 RE: ORtastytravels Jan 16, 2012 04:47 PM

      In my opinion, SS cladding on the exterior is never a good deal, because it serves only for appearances, and degrades the distribution of heat around the pan. For cooking properties, you would always prefer more aluminum and no SS on the exterior.

      I did recently buy one D5 pan, however. It's an LTD2 french skillet (aluminum exterior). It was marked down below $100 on clearance. Now that's a good deal.

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        Nutmegger1 RE: GH1618 May 16, 2012 06:48 PM

        Is that true, that the exterior SS degrades the distribution of heat around the pan? I noticed in the prepared foods section of my local Whole Foods the All-Clad wok-shaped pans holding some of the warm stuff is aluminum on the outside. Is that for performance rather than economics?

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          GH1618 RE: Nutmegger1 May 16, 2012 07:24 PM

          Yes. Most of my All-Clad is MC2, which is just aluminum with a SS lining. Most of the mass of the pan is in the aluminum, which conducts heat relatively well. The lining is just for its properties as a cooking surface.

          The original SS line has SS on the outside (for appearances only), and less aluminum, so should not distribute as well as MC2. The D5 technology compensates for this by putting a thin SS layer in the middle of an aluminum sandwich, slows the transfer of heat directly through the pan, so as to allow more time for the (relatively thin) exterior aluminum layer to distribute the heat. The downside is that the responsiveness of the pan to heat changes is not as good. D5 pans should be preheated slowly.

          I have only one D5 pan, an 11-inch French skillet. It's a beautiful pan, but I use it only occasionally. I'm not planning to get any more of that line.

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        olympia RE: ORtastytravels Jan 16, 2012 05:04 PM

        I have some D5 and love it. I don't think this is an awesome deal though. Any chance you live near a WS outlet? They have some great prices - some are second quality though. They will also ship but the shipping is pretty darn high. Another good place to look is cookwarenmore.com but they also have seconds. Right now WS has a two skillet set in store for $80 as well as some other pieces on clearance. Hope that helps some!

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          JVHcook RE: ORtastytravels Jan 16, 2012 05:17 PM

          I personally wouldn't jump on that deal, as compared to other sources the price isn't all that great. Here you can find the Tri-ply for only $600 for a nine piece set, which would suit one well for a long time: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000...

          Or if you're willing to spend the original amount posted above, you can even go ahead and get a copper core 5-ply 10 piece AC set, which I would recommend over the link you posted above:
          The copper is really preference though, as some seem to love it and others not so much.

          Just for the price you're paying, that set from WS wouldn't be my first choice, especially if you're shopping online. If you want any more advice on certain sets, or how I've felt about them, feel free to ask!

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            ORtastytravels RE: ORtastytravels Jan 16, 2012 05:30 PM

            Thanks for the feedback thus far. As I'm doing more research, I may just buy one d5 frying pan as originally planned and try it out. I may go into the store to see if they have the 2 piece skillets. They are no longer available online. Thanks for the recommendations. I'll have to do more research as to which pots would be best...maybe some of the triply.

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              olympia RE: ORtastytravels Jan 16, 2012 05:33 PM

              Call and see if your local stores have the fry pan set or covered skillets in store. I think they were both good deals. I wanted to add that I've got mostly D5 but also a couple of triply pieces and I enjoy all of them. The new triply has the new handles so I'd look for that over the older pieces.

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                Chemicalkinetics RE: olympia Jan 16, 2012 05:38 PM

                "The new triply has the new handles so I'd look for that over the older pieces."

                Good point. Conversely, the older All Clad may sold at a lower price point, and if the person does not mind the handle, then the old version may be a better deal.

                1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                  olympia RE: Chemicalkinetics Jan 16, 2012 05:44 PM

                  This is also true! I've got one piece of the older triply and I like it very much. For me, the bigger, heavier pieces necessitate the newer handles but it's all personal preference. For sure there must be some good deals out there!

                  1. re: Chemicalkinetics
                    JVHcook RE: Chemicalkinetics Jan 16, 2012 05:47 PM

                    Very true. I'd definitely go for the new handles if it were me, seeing as the pans would probably last over a decade I'd look for what was most comfortable.

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                  GH1618 RE: ORtastytravels Jan 16, 2012 06:00 PM

                  By "2-piece skillet" do you mean two skillets which fit together on the top with interlocking handles opposite the long handles to hold it together? If you want this configuration, Sur la Table has one they call a "frittata pan." it isn't All-Clad, though. Hard-anodized aluminum (10"), on sale for $80 in their January catalog. A similar piece (Calphalon) from Williams-Sonoma is $130.

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                  trakman RE: ORtastytravels Jan 16, 2012 09:46 PM

                  Check out the All Clad outlet at the following link before you go too far on your purchase. I've bought a fair amount of All Clad from them. Might have a cosmetic blemish or two, but they are good on returns if you are not pleased, and the prices are right.


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                    KnowTheIdeal RE: ORtastytravels Jan 27, 2012 08:22 AM

                    I just got back from one of the W-S store in Manhattan. I have been crafting our wedding registry. The saleperson informed me that the D5 will not be discontinued, but rather the 3-Ply would be discontinued!!! I asked if this only applied to W-S, or globally, and he wasnt sure. I can't believe All-Clad would discontinue the 3-ply line?!?

                    Any thoughts? Also, it regards to the 10 piece....its very enticing, although the 7 plus 2 or 3 copper-core pieces is more enticing at the moment

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                      unprofessional_chef RE: KnowTheIdeal Jan 27, 2012 11:11 AM

                      I wouldn't put any stock in what he says. I'm sure Macys, Sur La Table, and Amazon will still continue to carry the AC triply SS line.

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                        KnowTheIdeal RE: unprofessional_chef Jan 27, 2012 01:01 PM

                        Well, it didnt make sense to me either. I called All-Clad. Essentially, they are not discontinuing the 3-ply OR the D5! Williams Sonoma though will be losing exclusivity to the D5 line, but they have no projected date, other than "soon."

                        They will be discontinuing the LTD2 line.

                        1. re: KnowTheIdeal
                          GH1618 RE: KnowTheIdeal Jan 27, 2012 07:47 PM

                          I bought a piece of D5 LTD2 right after Christmas, and it wasn't from W-S. D5 is the 5-layer technology, not a "line."

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                            olympia RE: GH1618 Jan 27, 2012 08:43 PM

                            They do refer to the newer five layer SS lines as D5 and brushed D5 - just like LTD, MC, etc.

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                              GH1618 RE: olympia Jan 27, 2012 09:33 PM

                              I don't know who "they" are, but LTD2 uses D5 technology. When "they" say "D5," most likely they mean "D5 SS."

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                                olympia RE: GH1618 Jan 27, 2012 10:34 PM

                                Wow, I'm not sure why the attitude. Please check out the manufacturer's website for their terminology.

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