HOME > Chowhound > Greater Boston Area >

South End restaurants

phatman Jan 13, 2012 10:12 AM

Newish to the area and the site. Am told that several closed restaurants in the South End are likely to re-open with new ownership and concepts. Anyone know what's going on with the former Pops, Rocca, Joe V's, Ginger Park, Bombay and maybe now Sibling locations?

  1. Click to Upload a photo (10 MB limit)
  1. Bob Dobalina RE: phatman Jan 13, 2012 10:40 AM

    Sibling Rivalry is closing? Hadn't heard that.

    Check the monthly openings/closings threads started each month by CH HiddenBoston for rumors and such.

    1 Reply
    1. re: Bob Dobalina
      DoubleMan RE: Bob Dobalina Jan 13, 2012 10:45 AM

      I hadn't heard that either. It wouldn't be that surprising or saddening.

      Ginger Park is becoming a Union Park Hospitality Group run steakhouse I believe. And Joe V's is becoming a yakitori place.

    2. l
      LeoLioness RE: phatman Jan 13, 2012 10:59 AM

      It's not that the restaurants are re-opening but that restaurants are opening in the spaces of these former places.

      1 Reply
      1. re: LeoLioness
        phatman RE: LeoLioness Jan 13, 2012 11:50 AM

        That's what I meant. I would assume Tremont Street locations would fill up...Actually liked Pop's though it wasn't always crowded. Any idea of the ownership there?? Might they open up elsewhere? Sibling is a nice space. Thanks for the replies.

      2. opinionatedchef RE: phatman Jan 13, 2012 01:47 PM

        welcome aboard, phatman! mcslim talks awhile about that Ginger Park space- on the openings and closings thread alluded to. there's a very active so. end CH contingent, as you'll see, on that thread.

        1. b
          Bridge66 RE: phatman Jan 13, 2012 06:19 PM

          MC Slim JB reports that Rocca will be an Italian restaurant operated by the Aquitaine group.

          1. MC Slim JB RE: phatman Jan 13, 2012 09:39 PM

            What I know as of this minute:

            Pops -- nothing doing. Heard a rumor the Grotto / Marliave folks were looking at it.

            Rocca -- taken over by Aquitaine Group. They're gutting it, doing some kind of Italian concept. I'm guessing late spring.

            Joe V's -- taken over by the Snappy Sushi folks. A Japanese concept, kind of yakitori-sounding, but probably not super-traditional: I understand the dining room will be dominated by a big grill. Work appears to be continuing. Late spring or summer, maybe? This one has been in the works for almost two years.

            Ginger Park -- just taken over by the dbar / Deuxave team (owner and chef) with plans for a creative take on the steakhouse concept. Allegedly a gut job: bye-bye to that award-winning but not universally-beloved interior design. Would be surprised to see this one before autumn.

            Bombay Club -- nothing doing that I know of. A rumor that the Foodies supermarket next door might expand into it and do a bigger prepared foods / takeout business has gone nowhere.

            Sibling Rivalry -- long rumored to be in trouble, but I've heard nothing about a sale. Based on a recent visit, I still think it's pretty awful.

            Other new South End spots to watch for:

            The former Columbus Cafe. Jamie Bissonnette is doing something there, likely with Ken Oringer's sponsorship. I heard a breakfast / lunch focus.

            Downstairs at Jae's. To be called Hair of the Dog, a craft cocktail / real Tiki oriented bar from the dude who built a big following as the bartender at the N. Woburn outlet of Sichuan Garden.

            Poe's Chester Square Pub. I think this is supposed to go into the spot just west of Mass Ave on Tremont that once housed a video store, but it sort of seems to be in turnaround. If I were betting, I'd guess this same restaurant group (Rattlesnake, the Parish Cafes, and several other places I can't identify) will focus on the Beacon Hill spot Tip Tap Lounge (the old Shangri-La restaurant / basement brothel) first.

            A second South End Buttery on Claremont near Appleton. I believe it won't have a kitchen; an expanded kitchen at the Shawmut Ave original will bake and cook for both locations.


            6 Replies
            1. re: MC Slim JB
              opinionatedchef RE: MC Slim JB Jan 13, 2012 11:42 PM

              great informative post, slim. th you.

              1. re: opinionatedchef
                MC Slim JB RE: opinionatedchef Jan 13, 2012 11:49 PM

                And I forgot a big one, at least in my book: the Puerto Rican successor to Don Ricardo's, Vejigante, in Villa Victoria.


                1. re: MC Slim JB
                  FinnFPM RE: MC Slim JB Oct 17, 2012 04:52 PM

                  Vejigantes got the Devra First treatment yesterday: http://bostonglobe.com/lifestyle/food...

                  I had to laugh at the headline. First has obviously never been to San Juan. If you are looking for the San Juan experience in Boston, you needn't search any further than T.G.I. Fridays, because that's basically what people who go to San Juan eat.

                  I had to go back through Slim's piece to make sure that godawful city escaped mention, and it did. Bravo.

                  1. re: FinnFPM
                    MC Slim JB RE: FinnFPM Oct 17, 2012 09:38 PM

                    To be fair, my experience of Puerto Rican cuisine was limited to a dirt-cheap local place when I lived in a very modest neighborhood of Chicago, and the estimable Izzy's near Kendall Square. My experience of San Juan is limited to the airport, which I recommend as a place to fill a suitcase full of rum.


              2. re: MC Slim JB
                MC Slim JB RE: MC Slim JB Jan 14, 2012 07:52 AM

                Also, it now looks like the Pops thing is happening. No word on the concept. Anyone want to take bets on "comfort food"?


                1. re: MC Slim JB
                  ChickenBrocandZiti RE: MC Slim JB Jan 16, 2012 07:34 AM

                  I hear the Bissonnette/Oringer plan @ Columbus Cafe has fallen through.

                2. libertywharf RE: phatman Jan 17, 2012 01:10 PM

                  Look into 28 Degrees at one appelton

                  3 Replies
                  1. re: libertywharf
                    L2k RE: libertywharf Jun 4, 2012 07:04 AM

                    Didn't think it was worthy of it's own thread, but we went to 28 Degrees on Saturday, after theater at the Boston Center for the Arts.

                    Now I *know* 6PM on a Saturday (even a rainy Saturday) is early for the South End, but that's when the show got out so over we went to try it out.

                    We were the only diners there, from the time we entered until the time we left (7:15 or so?). One other party of 3 came and were seated for about 5 minutes and left. 2 couples came to sit at the bar.

                    Having said that, the service and food were excellent. We weren't hurried out in any way, the server didn't disappear into the back for lengthy periods of time out of boredom, water glasses were kept full, and we thought the food was very reasonably priced.

                    1. re: L2k
                      bear RE: L2k Jun 4, 2012 01:46 PM

                      Thanks for that report. I was planning on asking for recent experiences. I bought a Gilt City certificate for a three-course tasting menu for two with wine pairings for $99. Actually, I bought it impulsively thinking it was for Bin 26! (Aging is tough.) I was a bit chagrined when I realized my mistake, so it's good to know you had a positive experience.

                      It expires at the end of the month, so we'll head there in a week or so.

                      1. re: bear
                        bear RE: bear Jun 4, 2012 02:13 PM

                        One question, L2k, did you enjoy the ambiance?

                  Show Hidden Posts