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Jan 12, 2012 09:46 AM

Kitchen Nightmares

Kitchen Nightmares is looking to cast restaurants in the Boston area to feature on their show.
Which restaurant would you like to see get rehabbed by Gordon Ramsey ?

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  1. This isn't mean to be an impolite response, but are you asking out of curiosity or because you work for the show? I think it's important to make that distinction since the people on this board are typically so generous with their ideas and should know the purpose.

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    1. re: hckybg

      Curiosity. I noticed it on Grub Street and thought it would be an interesting topic.

      1. re: pjr

        Thanks, I appreciate your response. I'm not a big fan of Ramsey and wonder if his changes ever actually make the restaurants successful. I have noticed more than once that a restaurant that was on the show touts that fact in order to attract business, which seems to defeat the purpose of the reboot. But one place that I think could be much more interesting than it is, especially in a neighborhood with a great food scene, is S&S. With some interesting chefs reimagining deli across the country, it's sort of a shame that S&S has relegated their deli tradition to a small section of the menu and otherwise has a pretty unexciting menu. But they seem to do well regardless.

        1. re: hckybg

          S&S's popularity shocks me. That place is really terrible, by almost every measure. I get angry when I see the prime real estate they are taking up.

          1. re: DoubleMan

            I do like their matzo ball soup, which is pretty straightforward and generally has a ball that remains both toothsome and fluffy. Their corned beef sandwich is fine, if pretty standard for deli case corned beef. And some things in their deli case are good, including the smoked fish and cookies. Brunch is also fine, if unremarkable. But I agree that for the most part it is pretty unimaginative and often disappointing. The blintzes were not good when I had them, and I immediately regretted the choice.

            1. re: DoubleMan

              It is sad. Once upon a time they were a real Jewish deli, but they sold their soul when they expanded in the '70s and revamped the menu in an unfortunately successful attempt to lure the brunch and bar crowd. The original S&S was just the small section where the take-out counter is now.

          2. re: pjr

            This is happening again?

        2. Barking Crab. The location has so much potential.

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          1. re: Gabatta

            Actually, the barking crab closed for a week to do some changes. In the good weather, they have all the business they can handle, from the children's museum.

            There are several legal locations which could use the help.

            1. re: libertywharf

              I was answering from the standpoint that the food sucks and I wouldn't eat there.

              Are most of the people boozing it up there really coming from the Children's museum? I tend to doubt it.

              1. re: Gabatta

                It's just general tourist traffic. Between the Harborwalk, the footbridge to the Seaport, and just the general proximity to the financial district where there are limited food options on the weekends in the Summer. You could add The Daily Catch next door to the list as well. The only resemblance to the North End location is the name and the prices.

                1. re: mkfisher

                  The fort point area is loaded with small businesses. Fidelity is not far as well. In addition there are many who park in the seaport area and walk by on their way to work. The area is more then tourists, but glad to hear that you realize tourists are in the area. The barking crab had issues years ago, but now is a thriving business.

                  1. re: libertywharf

                    "Issues years ago" aside, the Crab has always been busy, and it has always been awful.


                  1. re: Gabatta

                    Yes, they come from the children's museum. The left side on the crab allows families to bring in strollers. Go down in the good weather and you will see the left side packed with famies. Food is not bad either.

              2. Sonny's.

                Owner is a Honey Badger which would make for good tv, Gordon being the cobra, of course.

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                1. re: C. Hamster

                  Honey Badger don't give a sh*#


                  1. I've said this before, but an appearance on Kitchen Nightmares is usually a futile Hail Mary pass. Ramsay is admittedly a gifted chef, and he has built a lucrative brand as a certain kind of reality-TV entertainer, but as an actual restaurateur, he's kind of pitiful: many of his places are money-losers.

                    The show's dirty secret is that he rarely if ever addresses the business management issues at the root of most restaurant failures. At best, he does a perfunctory dining room and menu makeover. Most of his Cinderellas enjoy a brief bump in popularity after the episode airs, then fail within a year or two anyway.

                    Last time this question was raised here, Davide was about to appear on the show. Back then, I suggested the Red Fez, while noting that the Red Fez's owners don't appear to really give a damn about filling seats. Likewise, horrors like the Barking Crab don't qualify: the place needs to be verging on failure. Places that suck and are still profitable don't merit Chef Shouty McSpittlefleck's tender ministrations.


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                    1. re: MC Slim JB

                      Hear-Hear, MC! That being said, I often can't resist both his show and Irvine's, as my only reality TV "guilty pleasure". I think Irvine does a better job of addressing business downfalls and trying to get the owners to consider their costs vs. sales. However, the thought that a couple of whirlwind days to correct often years of neglect/mismanagement is a pipedream at best. Maybe he could help Chau Chow City, which seems to have really slipped of late. It would be amusing to see him address cleanliness issues in Chinatown!! ;)

                      1. re: MC Slim JB

                        For example, Downcity in Providence, now out of business...


                        1. re: okra

                          *That's* the one I always noticed for touting its appearance on the show in the front window. That seemed like a bad sign. "Hey, come here! We were a really crappy restaurant until a celebrity chef had us on a TV show!"

                        2. re: MC Slim JB

                          I indirectly supply one of his restaurants and it's not doing very well at all.

                          Maybe he should be focusing on his own places.

                          1. re: typhoonfish

                            Amazing that few people seem to be aware of his string of failures and red-ink-generators in his own restaurant empire. Physician, heal thyself! The famous-asshole thing seems to be working out better for him: he's got a dozen TV shows, that Acura commercial, a line of cookware for Kmart, and so on.

                            Anyone been to Davide lately?


                          2. re: MC Slim JB

                            i brought someone to both gordon ramsey in london -3 stars - and was not impressed. i wonder why he got those stars and why he is considered such a great chef?