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sanjacinto Jan 12, 2012 01:17 AM

Alright, so, here's the story: When I buy liquor to drink at home, I keep what I have pretty simple. I'll have a bottle of gin, a bottle of bourbon (and though I don't always get the same thing, it'll usually be one bottle at a time), some sweet and dry vermouth, occasionally some rum, and that's pretty much it most of the time.

Part of the reason is that in general I'm usually on a budget, part of the reason is that I don't entertain guests too often, maybe it's habit, but fundamentally, that's what I keep at home/drink regularly.

Anyhow, despite how simple that is, I know there are a tremendous number of interesting and exciting liqueurs out there, some of which I've tried or had in cocktails but never bought a full bottle of, plenty of which I've never tried, and I'm sure plenty of which I've never even heard of. So I'm thinking that whenever I get around to restocking, I'll try to pick up a bottle or two of something different.

So, I suppose I'm asking for recommendations/suggestions. I'm sure I'll be using whatever I get to make cocktails, so ideally I'm looking for something that can work with gin, whiskey and vermouth (and occasionally rum?) in some capacity. And I guess versatility would be good (I know, it's a bit much to ask for given how little I actually have to work with, but at the same time, I wouldn't want to get the kind of liqueur that can be used to make only 2 drinks in the whole world, with of them also requiring aquavit, applejack, chambord, and some sort of syrup that hasn't been sold in America for the past 50 years.)

Also, I'm not opposed to liqueurs that can be consumed straight.

In terms of flavors and such, I'm not too picky; I think herbal is a good property, although I like lots of things. I'm comfortable with bitter liqueurs too (like Campari, Italian aperitifs, etc.), but there isn't any particular type of liqueur I'd rule out, other than overly sweet or candy-like ones (I can even enjoy those, although that's really not what I'm looking for right now).

So, since I'll be thinking about this for a while before I buy anything, are there any suggestions anyone can offer? Any advice would be appreciated.

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    sanjacinto Jan 13, 2012 10:31 PM

    Yes, Benedictine...I've heard very good things about it, and it certainly has my interest, especially now. I'm trying to think, and I don't think I've ever actually had anything with Benedictine in it, even though I'm familiar with drinks that use it. That's probably because Benedictine doesn't seem to be one of the first things you see on the shelf when you walk into a bar or a liquor store, or what have you. Still, maybe I should take a chance with it.

    I actually do have a half bottle of Cointreau sitting around collecting dust. Oddly enough, I never seem to use it, mostly because I'm very bad at it, although I plan to start seeing if I can improve that.

    Also, although I didn't mention it since I don't usually have it, I am just at the end of a bottle of Campari I bought a while back.

    I didn't realize until it was mentioned here that chartreuse is so expensive. Is there a reason for that?

    Also, as I'm getting other ideas, I'll ask: does anyone have any thoughts on maraschino? Seems interesting enough, at least...

    Also, on a quasi-related note, I'm thinking of investing in some orange bitters, since I don't actually have any of my own. Because there's always something you can do with orange bitters. At least, I hope there is...

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    1. re: sanjacinto
      EvergreenDan Jan 14, 2012 03:50 AM

      From Zach Pearson's description of Chartreuse, explaining the expense:

      "... Green Chartreuse is a brilliant greenish-yellow color, 110 proof, and contains 130 different herbs and spices. The color chartreuse is actually named for the liqueur. The recipe is known to only two monks, both sworn to vows of silence. The aroma and flavor of Green Chartreuse is incredibly complex - warmly spicy, herbal, licoricey, and many shades of green. Nothing else smells quite like it. It is indispensable in cocktails. ..."

      Orange bitters are great. They are useful to add citrus notes to cocktails that have enough acid. Angostura (or similar) bitters are even more useful. They add spicy complexity and depth.

      Maraschino has a funky flavor -- not anything like fresh cherries. It is useful in small amounts in a number of drinks, including the fabulous last word (equal parts gin, Maraschino, Green Chartreuse, and lime juice) or the nearly equally great Final Ward (sub rye and lemon). The Aviation can be made without the special-purpose Creme de Violette (so that'd be gin, Maraschino and lemon). The Luxardo brand is widely available and very good. Do be alarmed if you hate it at first. It grows on you.

      I suggest that you stay with a small number of very high quality liqueurs and find drinks to make with them that you like. Having a selection of Pucker and bottom-shelf Creme de Dayglo won't let you make good cocktails. If you're idea of a great drink is something sweet and fruity that doesn't taste like alcohol, then disregard everything I've said. ;)

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      1. re: EvergreenDan
        davis_sq_pro Jan 14, 2012 07:33 AM

        Maraschino can also be dashed into any number of drinks to add a bit of sweetness and background complexity. For example I sometimes put a few drops into a Manhattan, or into tiki drinks. I used to reach for it all the time but I kind of burned out on it. Still consider it nearly indispensable (not quite on the same level as Cointreau).

        1. re: davis_sq_pro
          JMF Jan 14, 2012 09:57 AM

          St. Germain Elderflower liqueur is very good. Used in many cocktails (maybe too many, its been the darling of the cocktail world since it can out a few years ago.) But you have to be careful not to use too much. 1/2 oz is fine, any more and it can take over the drink.

          1. re: JMF
            davis_sq_pro Jan 14, 2012 11:11 AM

            Yeah, if you want to talk about liqueurs to burn out on, St. Germain would be the poster child!

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      INDIANRIVERFL Jan 13, 2012 11:35 AM

      It is certainly heresy on this board, but my advise is go to the bottom shelf at the store and try the different flavors. Go to mid or top shelf when you find something you like.

      I would not get a bottle of Galiano until disco returns.

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        FriendOfTheDevil Jan 13, 2012 11:21 AM

        I really love St. Germain. An Elderberry Liquor that works great with both Gin and Whiskey as well as with soda, lemonade, and even straight. Great stuff!

        FOTD

        1. JMF Jan 13, 2012 08:06 AM

          Benedictine of course, but I think that maybe the best liqueur in the world is Drambuie. The two are similar, Benedictine is a brandy and herbs liqueur with 27 herbs, and Drambuie is scotch and herbs with honey.

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          1. re: JMF
            davis_sq_pro Jan 13, 2012 08:14 AM

            I was under the impression that Benedictine also had some honey? (Not sure if that's what you were implying since you said they're similar.)

            I haven't tried Drambuie for several years, since an unfortunate Rusty Nail incident, but if you say it's that good I'll buy a bottle next time I'm at a liquor store...

          2. EvergreenDan Jan 12, 2012 10:28 AM

            +1 for yarm.

            That said, I adore Campari and use it much more than other things. It is very flexible. With your vermouths, gin and bourbon, you can now make a Negroni, Boulevardier, gin / Campari / soda, Campari / soda, and (if you like this sort of thing) Campari / orange juice. And of course all the things you can already make.

            I made a Ward 8 variant last night with Bourbon, orange juice, lemon juice and Campari instead of Grenadine. Loved it.

            Orange liqueur is certainly the most called-for and essential liqueur. If you want to maximize the cocktail that you can make, Cointreau would be a good purchase in the next bottle or two. If you are on a budge, look for Luxardo Triplum, which is slightly cheaper and also really great.

            I do feel you pain about not being able to make things without a big liquor cabinet. Like spices, a good selection of bottles will great expand what you can make.

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            1. yarm Jan 12, 2012 07:59 AM

              The best way to build up your bottle collection is figure out which recipes you want to make, determine which bottles you would need, and how many recipes that bottle appears in.

              When we started our bar way back when, we were using Duffy, Vic, and a few other 1940-1990s books. Besides a bottle of Cointreau, we opted for Benedictine for it appeared in many of the drinks that I was curious about or had out (such as many of the New Orleans drinks). With Benedictine, we could make Caprice, Vieux Carre, Preakness, Cornell Special, and other drinks. We added bottles slowly using the two hand rule -- unless we were in a distant Mecca of booze, we limited it to 2 bottles where generally one was a staple like rye or vermouth.

              In terms of overall value, triple sec/Cointreau, Benedictine, absinthe/pastis, Campari, and apricot liqueur get a lot of mileage in our house.

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              1. re: yarm
                yarm Jan 12, 2012 11:53 AM

                I forgot Green and Yellow Chartreuse, but most people have pause sinking $50 each at first. Cherry Heering also got a bit of mileage in the early days although less now.

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                  johncb Apr 15, 2012 04:24 PM

                  If you're ever traveling to the Pyrenees, I understand that Andorra is basically one big duty-free shop. My daughter bought a bottle of Green Chartreuse there last week for $ 15.70 (12 euros). Even in Voiron, it's more like 32 dollars (25 euros). I've briefed all my European liquor mules.

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