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Looking for a really good and different (maybe fun) place to take an 11 year old who really knows a lot about food and can handle himself in a restaurant situation. Not looking to spend 150 pp for food, but not necessarily looking for really low budget either.

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  1. Otto sounds like a good place...Mario Batali, pizza...gelato...pasta....kids friendly.

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    Otto
    1 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10003

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    1. re: Monica

      I don't think the OP is looking for a "kid friendly" place with pizza.....he said the kid knows a lot about food and can handle himself in a restaurant.

      I have taken children to lunch at Eleven Madison Park. It has been wonderful every time. A huge, huge treat for a "foodie" kid who knows how to behave in a restaurant. The staff could not be friendlier toward the children. And it's an experience the 11 year old will never forget.

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      Eleven Madison Park
      11 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10010

      1. re: gutsofsteel

        Otto is not a hole in a wall place that serves pizza...it is a great restaurant that has Mario Batali's name(since the kid is glued to food channels) on it that serves good food.

        I also recommend Tocqueville. On my recent visit, I saw two tables with teenagers. Loved their food and service. Their lunch is a steal.

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        Tocqueville
        1 East 15th Street, New York, NY 10003

        Otto
        1 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10003

        1. re: Monica

          Had dinner at Tocqueville on Saturday and it was about what you spend for the 4-course at EMP and not nearly as good. Both are probably a bit out of OPs budget (assuming dinner).

          1. re: Monica

            Agreed, Monica. Otto is a very adult place. Bustling and loud with an extensive and ecletic Italian wine list. That 11 year old may likely wonder why the ADULTS can't handle themselves in a restaurant. ;)
            If you have not been there the idea of pizza may sound juvenile, But here it is a bonafide course. They have a great selction of artisan ingredients of most of the pizzas.

            But the Must-Have item there is the olive oil gelato dessert. I dreamt about it for 3 nights after having it. It is that good. It will also further stimulate this young man's culinary imagination. I think Otto presents the perfect combination of low key with high standards. Bonus: You'll be on 8th St. in the Village where are the cool hip teens are hanging out!

            Also consider a different place that has an open kitchen where he can watch the action live!

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            Otto
            1 Fifth Avenue, New York, NY 10003

          2. re: gutsofsteel

            A few weeks ago, we met a 15 yr old who was working/helping out in the EMP kitchen, after having already cooked through the entire EMP cookbook. Chef Humm seems very welcoming of aspiring chefs!

          3. re: Monica

            I second Otto, or perhaps Eataly which can be fun with all the assorment of places to try some different food, since the kid would have heard of Mario Batali that would make it more special

          4. Kalustans, Eisenbergs sandwich, Xi'an famous foods, great NY noodletown, johns pizza on bleeker. Katz's deli.

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            Katz's Delicatessen
            205 E Houston St, New York, NY 10002

            Kalustyan's
            123 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10016

            Great New York Noodletown
            28 Bowery, New York, NY 10013

            Eisenberg's Sandwich Shop
            174 5th Ave, New York, NY 10010

            John's Pizzeria
            278 Bleecker St, New York, NY 10014

            Xi'an Famous Foods
            81 St. Marks Pl, New York, NY 10003

            Xi'an Famous Foods
            67 Bayard St, New York, NY 10013

            1. While some of these suggestions are excellent, I would also give the kid a budget, this website, and also menupages.com (where he can search by ingredients and dishes) and perhaps also directions about neighborhoods you prefer, and let him participate in the preparation of a list of possibilities which you can then explore and discuss together. He might find it a lot of fun and the two of you might enjoy the activity enormously.

              1. Since you are doing this for the kid, I would ask him who his favorite chef is on the Food Network. If it's one that has a restaurant in the city, i.e. Bobby Flay, (Bar Americain etc.) take him to that spot. There may be better choices, yes, but it might be fun for the kid going to a place like that. http://www.bootsnall.com/articles/08-...

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                1. re: michele cindy

                  this is probably a better idea. my recs were based on interesting food or classics that you might not be able to get elsewhere. my first pastrami sandwiches at the carnegie deli and the 2nd ave deli ( i was probably slightly older) i still remember.

                  that was 40 years ago.

                  1. re: michele cindy

                    That and a trip to Chelsea Market should not be missed. Food Network's headquarters are based there. Ran into Cat Cora one day while she was still in Iron Chef America's uniform as they must have been taping. Even if he doesn't see any food celebrities, Chelsea Market has a bunch of bakeries, food related stores and restaurants to keep the kid occupied. A few celebrity chefs also have restaurants near the market -- Morimoto, Colicchio, Batali, Jean-Georges to name a few.

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                    Del Posto
                    85 10th Avenue, New York, NY 10011

                    Morimoto
                    88 10th Avenue, New York, NY 10011

                    Spice Market
                    403 West 13th Street, New York, NY 10014

                    Colicchio & Sons
                    85 10th Ave, New York, NY 10011

                    1. re: Miss Needle

                      He would be so excited to see one of the Iron Chefs! Morimoto and Derek Jeter in one trip would be his dream. When I say he knows food, he really does...talks about the firmness of one fish flesh vs another. Kind of crazy but fun. Thanks for all the suggestions. I do think I will let him choose.

                      1. re: mless

                        Morimoto doesn't spend too much time at his restaurant - when he's in town doing FN tapings he'll pop by, but he's fairly busy what with restos here, Philly, Japan, Hawaii...

                        That said, it's a fun place, and not as expensive as some might think. The price points are all over the map - you could have a relatively cheap meal, or go pretty extravagant if you choose. Granted, most fo the cheaper dishes are the less exciting ones, but there are some fun things you could order. Stay away from the sushi (it isn't bad, just average) and go with the composed dishes. For a kid, the tuna pizza could be a good appetizer (and for you - the oysters foie gras...)

                        Right across the street is Del Posto, Batali's fanciest place, which has arguably the best lunch deal in town of any four-star place. $29 for three courses, or $39 for four (a "proper" Italian meal, with antipasti, pasta, entree and dessert - the three course you choose either pasta or entree)

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                        Del Posto
                        85 10th Avenue, New York, NY 10011

                        Morimoto
                        88 10th Avenue, New York, NY 10011

                      1. re: mless

                        He would love Chinatown! Take him to Great NY Noodletown for Singapore Chow Fun and Roast Duck! Maybe just take the meat off the bone for him with the duck!

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                        Great New York Noodletown
                        28 Bowery, New York, NY 10013

                    2. I love this thread!

                      Mario is very responsive to his twitter account (@Mariobatali) - why don't you (or the young man) bring him into this discussion? You never know!

                      If it was me, I'd take the boy to Craft.

                      Wherever you go, consider bringing your guest's enthusiasm to the restaurant's attention in advance. Perhaps a meet and greet with the chef is in order.

                      Please report back!

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                      Craft
                      43 E. 19th St., New York, NY 10003

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                      1. re: Chuck Lawrence

                        Had a (second) dinner there Saturday after Tocqueville and, as usually, was really impressed. Can't go wrong with Craft (though it can get a bit pricey).

                        Though they just changed pastry chefs, the pastry department is still firing on all cylinders.

                        1. re: Chuck Lawrence

                          Wish I knew how to twitter. Have acct but computer challenged. Great idea though.

                          1. re: mless

                            It's easy, millions do it! Type your little message into the "what's happening" box and include @Mariobatali. He'll see it. You can also search Mario Batali, and follow his account. He is very informative, and a hoot!
                            Speaking of Mario, perhaps you and your guest would enjoy Casa Mono. Or keeping the Spanish in NYC theme - Tertulia. Lots of gastronomy to explore there.

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                            Casa Mono
                            52 Irving Place, New York, NY 10003

                            Tertulia
                            359 6th Ave, New York, NY 10011