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  1. Great NY Noodletown

    Great New York Noodletown
    28 Bowery, New York, NY 10013

    1. Kajitsu.

      414 East 9th Street, New York, NY 10009

      1. Three choices (in no particular order): Momofuku Ko, Bouley, and Eleven Madison Park.

        BTW, you shouldn't use all caps when you post since it looks like you're shouting.

        Eleven Madison Park
        11 Madison Ave., New York, NY 10010

        Momofuku Ko
        163 1st Ave, New York, NY 10003

        163 Duane St, New York, NY 10013

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        1. re: ellenost

          Tks, first time posting. Did not mean to shout. I appreciate the input.

        2. I would pick Kyo Ya. I have not had kaiseki style food anywhere in the US. LA and SanFrancisco did not even come close to the quality at Kyo Ya. For other style food, I think you can find comparable in other cities. IMHO the French Laundry is the best I've had in the US.

          Kyo Ya
          94 E 7th St, New York, NY 10009

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          1. re: foodwhisperer

            I appreciate your input. Kyo Ya sounds very interesting. The French Laundry has been on my list a long time. I use to live in Santa Rosa, Ca.

            1. re: foodwhisperer

              Do you think Kyo Ya is better than Urasawa?

              1. re: uwsister

                uwsister, I have never been to Urasawa, sorry. But Kyo Ya is fantastic so I keep going back

              1. re: Mike C. Miller

                Thanks, I am sold on 11 Madison Park .

                1. re: WILLIAMGD

                  EMP is awesome but you MUST book at 9am Eastern EXACTLY 28 days in advance. If you're even an hour or two late, the date you want will be fully booked up by other people.

                  Try using OpenTable; their reservations desk has told me they are getting lots of customers who only get busy signals when they call.

                  1. re: kathryn

                    Thanks Kathryn, I appreciate that.! I'll plane accordingly.

              2. Either the Oyster Restaurant in Grand Central or depends on the mood.

                Pierre Dukan, the French neurologist turned diet master sees eating primarily protein the best. So, perhaps he would agree with my choice.

                See Sunday's FT: Arts Leasure Sec. Diet Hard, Lunch with the FT interview and 
                lucnch with Pierre Dukan. They ate at 
                Roux Parliament Square, London. 

                Peirre had Rabbit at 26pounds. The FT reporter filled up on....I will have to read it again. 

                what is up with 没有 type。


                Grand Central Oyster Bar
                89 E 42nd St, New York, NY 10017

                1. appetizer: Noodletown for duck only, and a beer.

                  If you are still hungry, head to Carmine's。

                  Great New York Noodletown
                  28 Bowery, New York, NY 10013

                  200 W 44th St, New York, NY 10036

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                  1. re: jonkyo

                    We will assume that in this supposition: Being in Manhattan for one night is prefaced with conditions that make this an excusively isolated cases of being in Manhattan, only once.

                    These referecnes would be good for guests who are first time here, and may not return for long:

                    Why the Oyster Restaurant at Grand Central?

                    Grand Central is an historic landmark, and this restaurant is unique. Its name is Landmark, and

                    "The Oyster Bar first opened its doors in 1913 on the lower level of Grand Central Terminal. Woodrow Wilson was President"-History of the Oyster Bar Restaurant.

                    My other suggestion is Carmine's and why?

                    Because this is an old style Italian restaurant that keeps and recreates the dining experineces of one of the significant early immigrants populations, namely Italian, and really because it affords really good dining, great food, and nice wine selections, all stemming from what is quintessentially part of the history of Manhattan.

                    And Noodletown would be a choice due to the fact that it is the best place for duck in all the northeast, Biejing style 北京烤鸭 roasted that is, and Chinatown is quite significant in its own right, historically, demographically, in regards to Manhattan.

                    I wonder what Pierre Dukan's MUST GO TO Manhattan restaurant would be?

                    Great New York Noodletown
                    28 Bowery, New York, NY 10013

                    Grand Central Oyster Bar
                    89 E 42nd St, New York, NY 10017

                    200 W 44th St, New York, NY 10036

                    1. re: jonkyo

                      I really don't mean to be obnoxious and repetitive, but you're really claiming that Carmine's "affords great food"? Great? I wouldn't even say "good."

                      For people who want really good examples of the cuisines of earlier waves of immigrants, I'd rather recommend a place like Patsy's, with its old-school pizza; Katz's for its old-school pastrami; 2nd Av. Deli for a variety of good Eastern European Jewish dishes; or for a full-service Italian-American restaurant, John's of 12th St. (assuming we're restricting this to Manhattan). I'm not sure if any of the Polish or Ukrainian places in the East Village warrant a special trip, but I like a couple of them more than Carmine's, at any rate.

                      1. re: Pan

                        Carmine's used to be fun, and I assume it still can be fun, but as far as it being an "old style" Italian restaurant, recreating the dining experience of an early immigrant population, well...

                        Let's remember that it is a chain, a formula house without a chef, and serves grease and starch to tourists. Go with a group and have fun, but don't go in pursuit of fine food or a "genuine" experience.

                        2450 Broadway, New York, NY 10024

                        1. re: PesachBenSchlomo

                          Family owned chain began as a single place.

                          Have not been back there in recent years, but I would not knock it. Just a suggestion.

                          1. re: jonkyo

                            McDonald's began as a single place, too.

                            1. re: Pan

                              So, what was that single places food like?

                              Of course as McDonald's grew they mae warehouses and food processing plants.

                              I do not think Carmine's is just there yet.

                              Good point though.

                              I will go back to Carmine's soon with other people fond of it, but I will have my critic antennae up.

                              1. re: jonkyo

                                I'm not old enough to have eaten at the original McDonald's, but I've heard it was good.

                                1. re: Pan

                                  I am unable to eat burgers as of the last few months.

                                  I ordered a few and both I took one bite and could not finish. One at Sweets on Houston and the other in Chesea. What a waste.

                                  For me the buger is over rated.

                                  I think there is more value in mince beef than the burger, simply because mince can be cooked in many dfferent ways.

                                  I went to an Ethiopian restaurnt many years ago in mid-town. This is good place to get mince beef.

                                  I think this may have been it: Meskerem Restaurant
                                  468 West 47th St # 2, New York, NY 10036-2375, United States
                                  +1 212-664-0520 () ‎

                                  Perhaps not a must go to Restaurant in NYC, but worth a visit.

                                  468 W 47th St, New York, NY 10036

                                  468 W 47th St, New York, NY 10036

                                  1. re: jonkyo

                                    I had a couple of very good meals at Meskerem. I don't eat burgers, either.

                                    1. re: Pan

                                      Meskerem is where my friends took me years ago. The same feast of spiced raw mince can be found at most, I think.

                                      I just visited Awash 947 Amsterdam Ave, up cross Duke Ellington Boulevard and not too far from St. John\]s Divine.

                                      The plates are brought out to share as other tables ate in this fashion, and I ordered raw very spiced ground beef. This was amazing, and my guest at the table was also pleased.

                                      The other dish, not my order, was nothng to scream about, but the tartar was spectacular.

                                      I shall check out others.

                                      I do think that the burger is over rated.

                                      It seems to be one of the main themes repeated on TV shows about food, and sliders as well. I just don't buy it, and find this entire genre quite overdone.

                                      Of course that is just me. I found this on the web, pointing to what may be the nescent quibbles of a food culture war, seems manifesting itself in Canada:

                                      search " Anti-Burger Propaganda"

                                      QUOTE Last week we received this distressed email from Myra, aka Food Monstar: This weekend I stumbled on a NO-BURGER sign in the Canadian Museum of Nature in Ottawa, which is a direct blow to the massive space I reserve in my heart for burgers. This prompted giggles from others, but genuine watery eyes on my part; I love burgers! How could this happen? I've since spotted an additional no-burger sign around town, hand painted too, which prompts me to think "Is the burger trend backfiring? Are burgers the new Durian fruit in this burger loving city??" Say it ain't so. AHT, have you ever encountered such horror?" END QUOTE Perhaps we may see this here in the states.

                                      947 Amsterdam Ave, New York, NY 10025