Flushing walking food tour + restaurant recommendations please (researched)!!
Let me start out by thanking the likes of Lau, ScoopG, Kathryn and the others whose inputs I've used in putting this together!
The idea is for 3-4 of us who live in Manhattan to spend a day feasting on Flushing's best! We were thinking of just walking and eating small portions at different places. We'll eat anything so no problems there, it just has to be delicious and extra points if everything has different flavors. None of us speak any Chinese BTW (but I'm thinking about Double Dragon which is a discussion for another day ;). I also came across some restaurants during my research that I'd like to visit (probably some other time).
I'd be thankful for any advice on my choice of places and dishes, things I may have missed, etc.
It seems like a very large majority of this comprises of dumplings and noodles. Is there something that I could add to this for some variety?
1. White Bear:
- Wontons in hot oil and frozen dumplings for home
2. Flushing Mall:
- Temple Snacks: Gua Bao
- Yong He: Xian Dou Jian, Fan Tuan, Sao You Tiao, Dan Bing
- Ah Zhong: Dan Bing
- Shaved ice at the juice and shaved ice stall
3. Golden Mall:
- Lanzhou hand pulled noodles (Any dish recommendations?)
- Chengdu Heaven: Dan Dan noodels
- Xian: Been to the East Village branch loads of times so low priority
- Wang-Zheng's halal snacks
4. Nan Xiang
- Xiao Long Bao
5. Corner 28
- Roast duck buns (People seem to have a mixed response to these so relatively low priority)
6. Fu Run
- Muslim lamb chop
7. Nan Shian Dumpling House
- Soup Dumpling
- Fried dumpling
9. Soy Bean Chan (The Flower Shop)
- Tian Dou Tiag
10. Xin Jiang BBQ Master
- BBQ Kebabs
11. New World Food Mall
- Beautiful Memory desserts (Mango Pancake)
- Lao Ma Mala Tang: Mala Xiang Guo (Medium Spicy)
1. Tong Sam Gyup Sal: This looks awesome. Can't wait to try their pork belly. Also, has anyone tried their beef intestines? Is there an easy way to get to this place from Flushing?
2. M&T: I haven't looked into specific dishes yet except the 'Sea Intestines'
3. Imperial Palace: Crab rice, crisply whole chicken, Peking pork shops, braised fish, pea shoots in crab sauce
4. Canton gourmet: Garlic crab and garlic chicken
5. Main Street Imperial Taiwanese ( Bei Gang): Cong Ting Tou, one of the Putzs, three cup 'something', oyster omelet
Would it be possible for us to club maybe one restaurant with the food tour or would that be torturing our stomachs?
Thanks a lot guys!! Cheers!!
Thanks indiefoodie! Very ambitious tour plans. Looks like this tour could feed a dozen folks!
Flushing Mall seems to get quieter every day. Temple Snacks is still going strong but I think Yong He and An Zhong are closed. There was huge tarp covering the spot where Yong He used to be yesterday. The Hand-Pulled Noodle spot as well as a few vendors on that end of the mall are still open.
I'd consider adding Henan Fengwei if you have not been already. M&T has just had an ownership change with the new owner also from Qingdao. They are currently using the old menu and whether that will change in the future I don't know.
Thanks scoopG. I've been to He Nan Flavor for the dumplings and the big chicken plate a few times. Should I still consider Henan Fengwei?
Also, out the list of places that I have under the FOOD TOUR section, I think Fu Run is a sit down kind of a place that'll take a little time. What about the others? Do they prepare stuff after you order or is most of the stuff pre-made?
Yes indiefoodie, I'd replace one of the Cantonese places with Henan Fengwei. You can get the Muslim Lamb Chop to go - it would be placed in a large aluminum tray. Bring a knife or ask them to make sure it is cut up. There's most always a wait at Nan Xiang so you could order the XLB then go Fu Run and order the Muslim Lamb Chop then go back to Nan Xiang. Everything is made to order. Of course the dumplings are made ahead of time - but they are usually always making them.
Nan Xiang Xiao Long Bao
38-12 Prince St, Queens, NY 11354
40-09 Prince St, Queens, NY 11354
Henan Feng Wei
136-31 41st Ave, Queens, NY 11355
Thanks. So, I guess Yong He and An Zhong are off the list. I tried to read a little about M&T and Henan Fengwei.
Has anyone been to M&T after the change in ownership? I wonder how would that affect things there. Anyways, for dishes there, I guess knowing the Chinese names would be helpful. I have some of them but can someone please help me with the others?
1. Jiu Cai Chao Hai Cheng (椒鹽嶗山蔘)
2. Gelatinuos & slippery pork in aspic
3. Cucumber with pieces of fatty meat from a pigs face
4. Fried pumpkin cake (Is this a dessert?)
5. Pork belly stewed in kelp
6. Squid heads with cumin & hot peppers
7. Jie Mo Mu Er (芥茉木耳) Mustard Tree Ears
8. Clenched fist fern stir friend with pork
9. Fei Hong Fish (What is this?)
10. Fried taro cakes (Is this a dessert?)
11. Fried pork belly (炸五花肉 Zha Wu Hua Rou)
Lastly, is a vegetable dish here that I could use to cut the meat overload?
For Henan Fengwei, I guess Chinese is not required. Since I've had the Da Pan Ji in Manhattan plenty of times, I thought of giving the foll. a try:
1. Shi Jing Sha Guo - 10 item casserole
2. Yong Rou Hui Mian - Lamb noodle soup
Is there something else that you feel I should add/remove from my list? Thanks!
SN New Restaurant
44-09 Kissena Blvd, Queens, NY 11355
I stopped in on Wednesday and picked up the M&Tmenu, which was the same as the old one. Their menu is fully in English plus they have a dozen or more photos on the wall. Fei Hong Fish (or Chicken) is an interesting dish. Check to see what fresh vegetables they have when you go.
Here’s more on Fei Hong:
RE Henan FengWei:
The 10-item casserole is a good thinking. :-) I'd also recommend their crispy meatballs for delicate textures and light, aromatic broth.
If you enjoy good noodles, their rendition is absolutely stellar. I'd order an extra scoop on the side, to soak the gravy.
Also, their boiled dumplings are one of the finest in Flushing: whatever fillings (pork and leeks, pork and cabbage, mutton) they have on the daily specials is probably worth it.
Not sure what you meant in #1: looks like a small typo that mixed up two good dishes: one is squid with Jiu Cai 韭菜比管魚 (you might want to ask for extra Sichuan pepper/Hua Jiao for an extra kick), the other one is batter-fried LaoShan ginseng 椒鹽嶗山蔘.
#2, 皮凍, is surely delicious but quite generic, IMHO.
#10 is not a dessert and is not made of taro. For dessert, go 3 blocks down the street to Carnation Bakery (at the corner of the parking lot)
Two of my other favorites are (1) jelly fish and kidney, and (2) a Qindgao quick stir-fry 青島小炒 of root vegetables, peppers and bacon. You might also consider ordering more fresh seafood /fish dishes.
If you like the taste of sauteed or stir-fried green vegetables with garlic, you should always ask the waiter what kind of Chinese vegetables they recommend.
Off the top of my head:
Try the Macao Pork Chop sandwich at Lan Kwai Fong.
It's a little out of the way but the lotus steamed pork at Hunan House is stellar, actually, there are multiple dishes at Hunan House that are stellar.
The three pepper chicken (boneless) at Spicy Tasty (ask for extra ma la)
The tea leaf sea bass at Mulan
The oxtail dish at Yi Lan Halal
Spicy & Tasty
39-07 Prince St, Queens, NY 11354
136-17 39th Ave, Queens, NY 11354
137-40 Northern Blvd, Queens, NY 11354
Yi Lan Halal Restaurant
42-79 Main St, Queens, NY 11355
Lan Kwai Fong
135-23 40th Rd, Queens, NY 11354
Lol, it's not even Cantonese food, unfortunately. However, it's thai/viet/chinese fusion. It started very strong but the food has declined somewhat because I've noticed it's almost always empty :( which is a shame because it actually was great when they started.
They've also changed preparations, presentations a couple of times so I recommend with reservations.
I don't have pics of everything I've had there, I'm bad I know, the grilled beef papaya salad has slices of beef in a similar style to chinese beef and green pepper stir fry. When they first made it, it didn't have mayo based sauce directly on it, you can request it on the side. I'd say the flavors are quite good although the beef doesn't seem grilled to me.
The soft shell crab app has excellent flavor but I've had it three times, the first time it was crisp, not so much subsequent times. Comes with a tasty lime based dipping sauce.
The stuffed roasted chicken is like a drunken chicken pate with pork. It's served on very garlicky and crunchy points of toast.
The avocado and shrimp spring rolls are neither here nor there.
The pho is quite good, possibly the best in Flushing, which is not saying much but it's something. The broth is rich and meaty with anise notes. The basil and mung bean sprouts were beautiful when I had them. It comes with two sauces, chilli and a rich paste.
I've tried the grilled chicken sandwich and the chicken seems more like a fried cutlet than grilled chicken. First time it was great, second time, gristly.
The macao pork chop is the same as above, except a pork cutlet. Comes with pickled veggies on a toasty baguette. Best baguette in Flushing quite possibly. Their macao pork chop has been their most consistently delicious dish.
Lan Kwai Fong
135-23 40th Rd, Queens, NY 11354
Just a quick fyi re: the crab rice at Imperial Palace, if you haven't had it before, it's a very tasty dish, the rice is delicious, but the crab meat is a lot of work to get to and very messy. Just something to be mindful of because I have friends that won't even eat chicken if it's on the bone.
136-13 37th Ave, Queens, NY 11354
you've compiled a nice list
flushing mall - yong he is closed, but i think ah zong is still open, but yong he was the place to get dan bing from not ah zong
corner 28 - i think thats wrong, i definitely think you should get a peking duck bun, ive taken many many of my friends there (chinese and not) and no one has ever not liked it
tong sam gyup sal - you can get here very easily on the LIRR, its literally directly across the street from the broadway stop. although i have a friend who said there is a better place from sam gyup sal (she's knows korean food really well in flushing, let me ask her which place she likes better)
gu xiang: i think gu xiang is worth trying, their three cup chicken is by far the best version ive had in flushing and i think their food is good as long as you order the right things (their street food stuff is just okay, but their stir frys are excellent). i like it the best out of the taiwanese restaurants although i'm going back to main street imperial very soon (done a bunch of research on what to order based on some chinese blogs my friends dad gave me)
M&T: not to be a detractor, but i don't think i'd go to M&T based on my visit there, its a bit of a far walk and for my taste, i thought it was good, but i love it and i dont think it was worth the trek. i'd replace it with henan feng wei if you're looking for more off the beaten path regional chinese food.
imperial palace: you should definitely go, i think this is one of the best restaurants in flushing
baidu shabu shabu - i like the hot pot here (get the duck broth)
40-28 Main St, Queens, NY 11354
Flushing Mall Food Court
133-31 39th Ave, Queens, NY 11354
136-13 37th Ave, Queens, NY 11354
135-40 39th Ave, Queens, NY 11354
Tong Sam Gyup Gui
162-23 Depot Rd, Queens, NY 11358
SN New Restaurant
44-09 Kissena Blvd, Queens, NY 11355
37-04 Prince St, Queens, NY 11354
Three Cup Chicken at Main Street Imperial is excellent, best in Flushing. Hands-down, the place is head and shoulders above Guxiang. There has been a recent change in ownership at M&T and that may have been a factor. Did you even try the fresh fish or seafood at M&T?
Main Street Imperial Taiwanese Gourmet
59-14 Main St, Queens, NY 11355
have you had the three cup chicken at gu xiang? gu xiang's version is actually quite good on an absolute level, last time u went i thought u ended up ordering alot of street food, ill try it at main street and compare
M&T: read my review which i linked above and u can see what i ordered, i tried to order based on what people on the boards and some of the editorials i read about the place and i asked the owner lady for dish recs as well. i believe the owners were the same when i went there, but then changed maybe a month after (i ate there in early dec)
Have not had the Three Cup at Guxiang in a long time. I've been going to Main Street Imperial and Taiwanese Specialties in Elmhurst for my Taiwanese fix. Main Street for one always delivers a free dish or two to the table. I think the soft Taiwan cabbage is their standard free dish - lightly stir-fried and delicious.
Your M&T blog review is much more positive than what you now say. Also - I think you need to look at your ratings. You give them 7-8 out of 10 points on every item on your blog and now say it is ho-hum? Not worth the walk from Roosevelt and Main? Really - based on one visit? Three of the seven dishes you ordered were based on "what the lady" said, not based on this board or other reviews. And...wait for it....excuse me...but.. you ordered wrong! All FRIED dishes! No fresh fish or fresh seafood? - Which is what Qingdao is known for!
re: Gu Xiang, i think you should give it a try again based on what i ordered, i think you'd enjoy it. how do you like taiwanese specialities in elmhurst btw?
no read what i said: "Overall, while I thought it was good, I don’t think the flavors really matched my palate and it was more of a novelty for me than a “must try” destination, but that said I think it’s great that Flushing is getting more and more unique regional Chinese cuisines that were unavailable only a few years ago and I hope more places like M&T keep popping up."
also above i said" it was good but i didnt love it". my point is not that it is "ho hum" which i never said. My point was that if i was going to go to flushing and spend one day out there it wouldn't be on my list of places to go (which is what the OP is going to do). however, if you were going to be out there fairly regularly then at that point maybe i would go try it out as something different.
i ordered based on what i read from what everyone said was good (the ginseng, pork chop and the shrimp, however the lady also recommended the shrimp) and when i asked the owner what her favorite fish dish was she pointed us to the eel. however it is possible that i ordered incorrectly as i have only been there once
however, you don't seem to have ordered all that much "fresh seafood" either, most of ithe seafood you ordered was fried or smoked and you didn't ordered any fresh fish
i ordered based on what i read from what everyone said was good and when i asked the owner what her favorite fish dish was she pointed us to the eel...
That's not what your write on your blog. You write you asked for a rec, she said eel. No mention of this being her "favorite dish." Three of the seven dishes you ordered were based "on what the lady said." This what is written on your blog, no?
The OP is looking for a diverse, multi-stop walking food tour of Flushing that the OP self-created. I still think there might be room for a Qingdao experience on the walk to Main Street Imperial!
eel: i asked her for a rec and said recommended that and followed by adding that was her favorite
re: the dishes. of the main dishes, the ginseng, the pork chop and the shrimp were all recommended via chowhound, serious eats etc. however, the lady also recommended the shrimp as well after i asked her about what fish to order, so that was a double recommendation
again i didnt think it was bad, i actually thought it was good, i just think if you've got one day then i'd replace it with henan fengwei which i think is a more interesting option in my opinion for less main stream regional chinese option
eel: i asked her for a rec and said recommended that and followed by adding that was her favorite...
Fine. But you do not mention that "the lady" said it was her favorite dish on your blog! Only now, four weeks after you ate there.
Mind you, there must have been 20-30 M&T Chowhound recs and comments on many dishes over the past 18 months. The menu did evolve and change. Many of the reviews would have been based on large parties perhaps, ordering a variety of dishes.
My rec to the OP was to drop one of the two Cantonese places. Henan Fengwei was never on the OP's original list...
it is far from the train station; i believe there is a bus although ive never taken it. when i go to that side of flushing i rent a car and just drive there, too much of a headache to take multiple forms of transport
alternatively if you take the chinatown bus (the $2.50 one on division street), they drive down main street from the LIRR and if you ask they will drop you off there although not sure how you would get back.
you could also take one of those chinese black cars from downtown flushing to there, its pretty cheap
thanks for that link! i've been wanting to try main street imperial for a while and now, armed with her post, I feel totally ready. As someone who couldn't even begin to read and write chinese, I love this kind of thing. I'm fine being intrepid by myself or with my own family, but we usually try these places with a big group of extended family and it helps to be informed.
got any more blogs like this?