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Flushing walking food tour + restaurant recommendations please (researched)!!

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indiefoodie Jan 4, 2012 08:05 PM

Let me start out by thanking the likes of Lau, ScoopG, Kathryn and the others whose inputs I've used in putting this together!

The idea is for 3-4 of us who live in Manhattan to spend a day feasting on Flushing's best! We were thinking of just walking and eating small portions at different places. We'll eat anything so no problems there, it just has to be delicious and extra points if everything has different flavors. None of us speak any Chinese BTW (but I'm thinking about Double Dragon which is a discussion for another day ;). I also came across some restaurants during my research that I'd like to visit (probably some other time).

I'd be thankful for any advice on my choice of places and dishes, things I may have missed, etc.

FOOD TOUR
It seems like a very large majority of this comprises of dumplings and noodles. Is there something that I could add to this for some variety?

1. White Bear:
- Wontons in hot oil and frozen dumplings for home

2. Flushing Mall:
- Temple Snacks: Gua Bao
- Yong He: Xian Dou Jian, Fan Tuan, Sao You Tiao, Dan Bing
- Ah Zhong: Dan Bing
- Shaved ice at the juice and shaved ice stall

3. Golden Mall:
- Lanzhou hand pulled noodles (Any dish recommendations?)
- Chengdu Heaven: Dan Dan noodels
- Xian: Been to the East Village branch loads of times so low priority
- Wang-Zheng's halal snacks

4. Nan Xiang
- Xiao Long Bao

5. Corner 28
- Roast duck buns (People seem to have a mixed response to these so relatively low priority)

6. Fu Run
- Muslim lamb chop

7. Nan Shian Dumpling House
- Soup Dumpling

8. Chiu's
- Fried dumpling

9. Soy Bean Chan (The Flower Shop)
- Tian Dou Tiag

10. Xin Jiang BBQ Master
- BBQ Kebabs

11. New World Food Mall
- Beautiful Memory desserts (Mango Pancake)
- Lao Ma Mala Tang: Mala Xiang Guo (Medium Spicy)

RESTAURANTS

1. Tong Sam Gyup Sal: This looks awesome. Can't wait to try their pork belly. Also, has anyone tried their beef intestines? Is there an easy way to get to this place from Flushing?

2. M&T: I haven't looked into specific dishes yet except the 'Sea Intestines'

3. Imperial Palace: Crab rice, crisply whole chicken, Peking pork shops, braised fish, pea shoots in crab sauce

4. Canton gourmet: Garlic crab and garlic chicken

5. Main Street Imperial Taiwanese ( Bei Gang): Cong Ting Tou, one of the Putzs, three cup 'something', oyster omelet

Would it be possible for us to club maybe one restaurant with the food tour or would that be torturing our stomachs?

Thanks a lot guys!! Cheers!!

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  1. scoopG RE: indiefoodie Jan 5, 2012 04:29 AM

    Thanks indiefoodie! Very ambitious tour plans. Looks like this tour could feed a dozen folks!

    Flushing Mall seems to get quieter every day. Temple Snacks is still going strong but I think Yong He and An Zhong are closed. There was huge tarp covering the spot where Yong He used to be yesterday. The Hand-Pulled Noodle spot as well as a few vendors on that end of the mall are still open.

    I'd consider adding Henan Fengwei if you have not been already. M&T has just had an ownership change with the new owner also from Qingdao. They are currently using the old menu and whether that will change in the future I don't know.

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      indiefoodie RE: scoopG Jan 5, 2012 07:50 AM

      Thanks scoopG. I've been to He Nan Flavor for the dumplings and the big chicken plate a few times. Should I still consider Henan Fengwei?

      Also, out the list of places that I have under the FOOD TOUR section, I think Fu Run is a sit down kind of a place that'll take a little time. What about the others? Do they prepare stuff after you order or is most of the stuff pre-made?

      Thanks!

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        scoopG RE: indiefoodie Jan 5, 2012 10:37 AM

        Yes indiefoodie, I'd replace one of the Cantonese places with Henan Fengwei. You can get the Muslim Lamb Chop to go - it would be placed in a large aluminum tray. Bring a knife or ask them to make sure it is cut up. There's most always a wait at Nan Xiang so you could order the XLB then go Fu Run and order the Muslim Lamb Chop then go back to Nan Xiang. Everything is made to order. Of course the dumplings are made ahead of time - but they are usually always making them.

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        Nan Xiang Xiao Long Bao
        38-12 Prince St, Queens, NY 11354

        Fu Run
        40-09 Prince St, Queens, NY 11354

        Henan Feng Wei
        136-31 41st Ave, Queens, NY 11355

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          indiefoodie RE: scoopG Jan 5, 2012 07:45 PM

          Thanks. So, I guess Yong He and An Zhong are off the list. I tried to read a little about M&T and Henan Fengwei.

          Has anyone been to M&T after the change in ownership? I wonder how would that affect things there. Anyways, for dishes there, I guess knowing the Chinese names would be helpful. I have some of them but can someone please help me with the others?
          1. Jiu Cai Chao Hai Cheng (椒鹽嶗山蔘)
          2. Gelatinuos & slippery pork in aspic
          3. Cucumber with pieces of fatty meat from a pigs face
          4. Fried pumpkin cake (Is this a dessert?)
          5. Pork belly stewed in kelp
          6. Squid heads with cumin & hot peppers
          7. Jie Mo Mu Er (芥茉木耳) Mustard Tree Ears
          8. Clenched fist fern stir friend with pork
          9. Fei Hong Fish (What is this?)
          10. Fried taro cakes (Is this a dessert?)
          11. Fried pork belly (炸五花肉 Zha Wu Hua Rou)

          Lastly, is a vegetable dish here that I could use to cut the meat overload?

          For Henan Fengwei, I guess Chinese is not required. Since I've had the Da Pan Ji in Manhattan plenty of times, I thought of giving the foll. a try:
          1. Shi Jing Sha Guo - 10 item casserole
          2. Yong Rou Hui Mian - Lamb noodle soup

          Is there something else that you feel I should add/remove from my list? Thanks!

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          SN New Restaurant
          44-09 Kissena Blvd, Queens, NY 11355

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            scoopG RE: indiefoodie Jan 6, 2012 05:34 AM

            I stopped in on Wednesday and picked up the M&Tmenu, which was the same as the old one. Their menu is fully in English plus they have a dozen or more photos on the wall. Fei Hong Fish (or Chicken) is an interesting dish. Check to see what fresh vegetables they have when you go.

            Here’s more on Fei Hong:

            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/6404...

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              JH Jill RE: indiefoodie Jan 6, 2012 07:25 AM

              On my first visit to M&T, we found ourselves with a lot of fried stuff and asked for a vegetable dish. They brought us baby bok choy with black mushrooms that had a garlic sauce, if I remember correctly. That was my favorite dish of the night, so refreshing.

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                diprey11 RE: indiefoodie Jan 7, 2012 05:26 PM

                RE Henan FengWei:
                The 10-item casserole is a good thinking. :-) I'd also recommend their crispy meatballs for delicate textures and light, aromatic broth.
                If you enjoy good noodles, their rendition is absolutely stellar. I'd order an extra scoop on the side, to soak the gravy.
                Also, their boiled dumplings are one of the finest in Flushing: whatever fillings (pork and leeks, pork and cabbage, mutton) they have on the daily specials is probably worth it.

                Re M&T:
                Not sure what you meant in #1: looks like a small typo that mixed up two good dishes: one is squid with Jiu Cai 韭菜比管魚 (you might want to ask for extra Sichuan pepper/Hua Jiao for an extra kick), the other one is batter-fried LaoShan ginseng 椒鹽嶗山蔘.
                #2, 皮凍, is surely delicious but quite generic, IMHO.
                #10 is not a dessert and is not made of taro. For dessert, go 3 blocks down the street to Carnation Bakery (at the corner of the parking lot)
                Two of my other favorites are (1) jelly fish and kidney, and (2) a Qindgao quick stir-fry 青島小炒 of root vegetables, peppers and bacon. You might also consider ordering more fresh seafood /fish dishes.
                If you like the taste of sauteed or stir-fried green vegetables with garlic, you should always ask the waiter what kind of Chinese vegetables they recommend.

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                  JH Jill RE: diprey11 Jan 8, 2012 03:46 PM

                  Though the fried taro cakes may not be a dessert, we ordered the sweet potato cakes last time we were at M&T at the end of the meal and the waitress suggested we take half taro cakes. We ended up liking the taro cakes better, and they worked fine as a dessert for us.

        2. Cheeryvisage RE: indiefoodie Jan 5, 2012 12:24 PM

          Your number 4 and number 7 are the exact same restaurant, no? Just with a different spelling in the name.

          Great list though. I'll probably borrow yours when I do a food tour of my own in the future. :)

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            indiefoodie RE: Cheeryvisage Jan 5, 2012 07:32 PM

            Ah! It is indeed :) I guess, its Nan Xiang Dumpling House for the Xiao Long Bao. Thanks for pointing that out.

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            Pookipichu RE: indiefoodie Jan 6, 2012 01:03 PM

            Off the top of my head:

            Try the Macao Pork Chop sandwich at Lan Kwai Fong.

            It's a little out of the way but the lotus steamed pork at Hunan House is stellar, actually, there are multiple dishes at Hunan House that are stellar.

            The three pepper chicken (boneless) at Spicy Tasty (ask for extra ma la)

            The tea leaf sea bass at Mulan

            The oxtail dish at Yi Lan Halal

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            Spicy & Tasty
            39-07 Prince St, Queens, NY 11354

            Mulan
            136-17 39th Ave, Queens, NY 11354

            Hunan House
            137-40 Northern Blvd, Queens, NY 11354

            Yi Lan Halal Restaurant
            42-79 Main St, Queens, NY 11355

            Lan Kwai Fong
            135-23 40th Rd, Queens, NY 11354

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              scoopG RE: Pookipichu Jan 6, 2012 02:31 PM

              Lan Kwai Fong? As in Hongkong Central's Lan Kwai Fong? Please tell us more Pookipichu!

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                Pookipichu RE: scoopG Jan 6, 2012 04:05 PM

                Lol, it's not even Cantonese food, unfortunately. However, it's thai/viet/chinese fusion. It started very strong but the food has declined somewhat because I've noticed it's almost always empty :( which is a shame because it actually was great when they started.

                They've also changed preparations, presentations a couple of times so I recommend with reservations.

                I don't have pics of everything I've had there, I'm bad I know, the grilled beef papaya salad has slices of beef in a similar style to chinese beef and green pepper stir fry. When they first made it, it didn't have mayo based sauce directly on it, you can request it on the side. I'd say the flavors are quite good although the beef doesn't seem grilled to me.

                The soft shell crab app has excellent flavor but I've had it three times, the first time it was crisp, not so much subsequent times. Comes with a tasty lime based dipping sauce.

                The stuffed roasted chicken is like a drunken chicken pate with pork. It's served on very garlicky and crunchy points of toast.

                The avocado and shrimp spring rolls are neither here nor there.

                The pho is quite good, possibly the best in Flushing, which is not saying much but it's something. The broth is rich and meaty with anise notes. The basil and mung bean sprouts were beautiful when I had them. It comes with two sauces, chilli and a rich paste.

                I've tried the grilled chicken sandwich and the chicken seems more like a fried cutlet than grilled chicken. First time it was great, second time, gristly.

                The macao pork chop is the same as above, except a pork cutlet. Comes with pickled veggies on a toasty baguette. Best baguette in Flushing quite possibly. Their macao pork chop has been their most consistently delicious dish.

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                Lan Kwai Fong
                135-23 40th Rd, Queens, NY 11354

                 
                 
                 
                 
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              Pookipichu RE: indiefoodie Jan 6, 2012 04:10 PM

              Just a quick fyi re: the crab rice at Imperial Palace, if you haven't had it before, it's a very tasty dish, the rice is delicious, but the crab meat is a lot of work to get to and very messy. Just something to be mindful of because I have friends that won't even eat chicken if it's on the bone.

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              Imperial Palace
              136-13 37th Ave, Queens, NY 11354

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                Lau RE: indiefoodie Jan 7, 2012 08:28 AM

                you've compiled a nice list

                flushing mall - yong he is closed, but i think ah zong is still open, but yong he was the place to get dan bing from not ah zong

                corner 28 - i think thats wrong, i definitely think you should get a peking duck bun, ive taken many many of my friends there (chinese and not) and no one has ever not liked it

                tong sam gyup sal - you can get here very easily on the LIRR, its literally directly across the street from the broadway stop. although i have a friend who said there is a better place from sam gyup sal (she's knows korean food really well in flushing, let me ask her which place she likes better)

                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/585453

                gu xiang: i think gu xiang is worth trying, their three cup chicken is by far the best version ive had in flushing and i think their food is good as long as you order the right things (their street food stuff is just okay, but their stir frys are excellent). i like it the best out of the taiwanese restaurants although i'm going back to main street imperial very soon (done a bunch of research on what to order based on some chinese blogs my friends dad gave me

                )

                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/787149

                http://www.lauhound.com/2011/05/gu-xi...

                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/678071

                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/5250...

                M&T: not to be a detractor, but i don't think i'd go to M&T based on my visit there, its a bit of a far walk and for my taste, i thought it was good, but i love it and i dont think it was worth the trek. i'd replace it with henan feng wei if you're looking for more off the beaten path regional chinese food.

                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/825096

                http://www.lauhound.com/2011/12/mt-re...

                imperial palace: you should definitely go, i think this is one of the best restaurants in flushing

                baidu shabu shabu - i like the hot pot here (get the duck broth)

                http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/761126

                http://www.lauhound.com/2011/01/baidu...

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                Corner 28
                40-28 Main St, Queens, NY 11354

                Flushing Mall Food Court
                133-31 39th Ave, Queens, NY 11354

                Imperial Palace
                136-13 37th Ave, Queens, NY 11354

                Gu-Shine
                135-40 39th Ave, Queens, NY 11354

                Tong Sam Gyup Gui
                162-23 Depot Rd, Queens, NY 11358

                SN New Restaurant
                44-09 Kissena Blvd, Queens, NY 11355

                Mapo Szechuan
                37-04 Prince St, Queens, NY 11354

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                  scoopG RE: Lau Jan 7, 2012 12:12 PM

                  Three Cup Chicken at Main Street Imperial is excellent, best in Flushing. Hands-down, the place is head and shoulders above Guxiang. There has been a recent change in ownership at M&T and that may have been a factor. Did you even try the fresh fish or seafood at M&T?

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                  Main Street Imperial Taiwanese Gourmet
                  59-14 Main St, Queens, NY 11355

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                    Lau RE: scoopG Jan 7, 2012 02:32 PM

                    have you had the three cup chicken at gu xiang? gu xiang's version is actually quite good on an absolute level, last time u went i thought u ended up ordering alot of street food, ill try it at main street and compare

                    M&T: read my review which i linked above and u can see what i ordered, i tried to order based on what people on the boards and some of the editorials i read about the place and i asked the owner lady for dish recs as well. i believe the owners were the same when i went there, but then changed maybe a month after (i ate there in early dec)

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                      scoopG RE: Lau Jan 7, 2012 02:39 PM

                      Have not had the Three Cup at Guxiang in a long time. I've been going to Main Street Imperial and Taiwanese Specialties in Elmhurst for my Taiwanese fix. Main Street for one always delivers a free dish or two to the table. I think the soft Taiwan cabbage is their standard free dish - lightly stir-fried and delicious.

                      Your M&T blog review is much more positive than what you now say. Also - I think you need to look at your ratings. You give them 7-8 out of 10 points on every item on your blog and now say it is ho-hum? Not worth the walk from Roosevelt and Main? Really - based on one visit? Three of the seven dishes you ordered were based on "what the lady" said, not based on this board or other reviews. And...wait for it....excuse me...but.. you ordered wrong! All FRIED dishes! No fresh fish or fresh seafood? - Which is what Qingdao is known for!

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                        Lau RE: scoopG Jan 7, 2012 02:51 PM

                        re: Gu Xiang, i think you should give it a try again based on what i ordered, i think you'd enjoy it. how do you like taiwanese specialities in elmhurst btw?

                        re: M&T

                        no read what i said: "Overall, while I thought it was good, I don’t think the flavors really matched my palate and it was more of a novelty for me than a “must try” destination, but that said I think it’s great that Flushing is getting more and more unique regional Chinese cuisines that were unavailable only a few years ago and I hope more places like M&T keep popping up."

                        also above i said" it was good but i didnt love it". my point is not that it is "ho hum" which i never said. My point was that if i was going to go to flushing and spend one day out there it wouldn't be on my list of places to go (which is what the OP is going to do). however, if you were going to be out there fairly regularly then at that point maybe i would go try it out as something different.

                        i ordered based on what i read from what everyone said was good (the ginseng, pork chop and the shrimp, however the lady also recommended the shrimp) and when i asked the owner what her favorite fish dish was she pointed us to the eel. however it is possible that i ordered incorrectly as i have only been there once

                        however, you don't seem to have ordered all that much "fresh seafood" either, most of ithe seafood you ordered was fried or smoked and you didn't ordered any fresh fish

                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/6404...

                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/6404...

                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/6404...

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                          scoopG RE: Lau Jan 7, 2012 03:07 PM

                          i ordered based on what i read from what everyone said was good and when i asked the owner what her favorite fish dish was she pointed us to the eel...
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                          That's not what your write on your blog. You write you asked for a rec, she said eel. No mention of this being her "favorite dish." Three of the seven dishes you ordered were based "on what the lady said." This what is written on your blog, no?

                          The OP is looking for a diverse, multi-stop walking food tour of Flushing that the OP self-created. I still think there might be room for a Qingdao experience on the walk to Main Street Imperial!

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                            Lau RE: scoopG Jan 7, 2012 03:22 PM

                            eel: i asked her for a rec and said recommended that and followed by adding that was her favorite

                            re: the dishes. of the main dishes, the ginseng, the pork chop and the shrimp were all recommended via chowhound, serious eats etc. however, the lady also recommended the shrimp as well after i asked her about what fish to order, so that was a double recommendation

                            again i didnt think it was bad, i actually thought it was good, i just think if you've got one day then i'd replace it with henan fengwei which i think is a more interesting option in my opinion for less main stream regional chinese option

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                              scoopG RE: Lau Jan 7, 2012 03:39 PM

                              eel: i asked her for a rec and said recommended that and followed by adding that was her favorite...
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                              Fine. But you do not mention that "the lady" said it was her favorite dish on your blog! Only now, four weeks after you ate there.

                              Mind you, there must have been 20-30 M&T Chowhound recs and comments on many dishes over the past 18 months. The menu did evolve and change. Many of the reviews would have been based on large parties perhaps, ordering a variety of dishes.

                              My rec to the OP was to drop one of the two Cantonese places. Henan Fengwei was never on the OP's original list...

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                                Lau RE: scoopG Jan 7, 2012 05:53 PM

                                am i obligated to say every detail of the meal?

                                henan fengwei - i know the it wasn't on the OP's list, but that why its a recommendation

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                                  scoopG RE: Lau Jan 8, 2012 07:13 AM

                                  No, just the important ones! You have the right to change your mind. I thought I was merely pointing out what I thought were some inconsistencies.

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                      shaogo RE: scoopG Jan 26, 2013 07:58 AM

                      Oh, dear. I'm a Gu Shine (Gu Xiang) loyalist.

                      Their san bei gai (three cup chicken) is spectacular, as is their salt-and-pepper chicken and chicken roll. Very typical Taiwanese (Taipei -style) food.

                      I'll Add Main St. Imperial to my list.

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                        diprey11 RE: shaogo Jan 26, 2013 04:17 PM

                        This is not to say that 3-cup chicken is not good at Gu Xiang, quite the opposite, but what other Taiwanese restaurants in NYC have you tried?

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                          Lau RE: diprey11 Jan 26, 2013 04:34 PM

                          i think gu xiang's is by far the best version i've tried in NY although i haven't tried main st imperial...i find gu xiang to be one of my favorite if you stick to like home style stir fry type of stuff and stay away from street food, which i find to be just ok

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                            diprey11 RE: Lau Jan 26, 2013 05:00 PM

                            Then you might want to try the Main St Imperial (北港) I like Gu Xiang too, but it's not quite apples to apples.

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                              Lau RE: diprey11 Jan 26, 2013 05:30 PM

                              well ive been to main street imperial, i just haven't tried the san bei ji there

                              btw the cang ying tou at main street is legit like taiwan level legit

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                      indiefoodie RE: Lau Jan 7, 2012 12:22 PM

                      Thanks! Will the fact that none of us speak any Chinese cause any problems at any of these places?

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                        scoopG RE: indiefoodie Jan 7, 2012 01:28 PM

                        No, not at all!

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                          AubWah RE: indiefoodie Jan 7, 2012 01:28 PM

                          the only problem will be the staff referring to you as "gweilo"

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                            Lau RE: indiefoodie Jan 7, 2012 02:36 PM

                            no except that a large amount of the specials at main street imperial and part of their menu is only in chinese, i have a feeling they don't speak english that well either, but im not 100% sure b/c we didnt speak english with them and there were no non-chinese when we went

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                              scoopG RE: Lau Jan 7, 2012 03:20 PM

                              Their printed menu is fully 80% in English. The wall is filled with plenty of Chinese specials. Smile, be friendly and you will be taken care of. indiefoodie - just print out chubby chinese girl's blog and you'll be Fiddlehead fine!

                              http://www.chubbychinesegirl.com/2009...

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                                AubWah RE: scoopG Jan 7, 2012 05:44 PM

                                Wow Chef Lings original creation and the Hakkanese little stir fry look amazing. can i just say #26 and #27 and point to something? how magical

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                                  Lau RE: scoopG Jan 7, 2012 05:55 PM

                                  ah that hakka stir fry was one of the dishes listed in the chinese blogs ive been looking at that reviewed main stree imperial, looks good

                                  http://sophiafeng.pixnet.net/blog/pos...

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                                    AubWah RE: Lau Jan 27, 2013 02:00 PM

                                    Lau is there a bus from the 7 train that takes you close to the restaurant? Looks like long walk from subway

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                                      Lau RE: AubWah Jan 27, 2013 02:09 PM

                                      it is far from the train station; i believe there is a bus although ive never taken it. when i go to that side of flushing i rent a car and just drive there, too much of a headache to take multiple forms of transport

                                      alternatively if you take the chinatown bus (the $2.50 one on division street), they drive down main street from the LIRR and if you ask they will drop you off there although not sure how you would get back.

                                      you could also take one of those chinese black cars from downtown flushing to there, its pretty cheap

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                                        scoopG RE: AubWah Jan 28, 2013 02:45 PM

                                        Main Street Imperial is a 20 minute walk from the subway station. There is a very convenient bus (both local and limited stops) you can pick up across the street from the Queens Library there on Main street. Q20 or Q44....

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                                      missmasala RE: scoopG Jan 8, 2012 06:46 AM

                                      thanks for that link! i've been wanting to try main street imperial for a while and now, armed with her post, I feel totally ready. As someone who couldn't even begin to read and write chinese, I love this kind of thing. I'm fine being intrepid by myself or with my own family, but we usually try these places with a big group of extended family and it helps to be informed.
                                      got any more blogs like this?

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                                        scoopG RE: missmasala Jan 8, 2012 07:21 AM

                                        missmasala - here is the original thread that might also help:

                                        Main Street Imperial – Taiwanese
                                        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/601902

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                                          Lau RE: missmasala Jan 8, 2012 09:24 AM

                                          yah here's the two other ones ive been looking at:

                                          http://njitjerry.pixnet.net/blog/post...

                                          http://tw.myblog.yahoo.com/erica-catt...

                                2. Peter Cuce RE: indiefoodie Jan 7, 2012 05:21 PM

                                  I think you should definitely stop at Savor Fusion, a newish mini-food court on the corner of Maple and Main Streets and try something from Sister Zhu's Sichuan stall (#7), maybe get her Dan Dan Mian instead of at the Golden Mall, and the three treasure dumplings from the stall all the way in the back (#1), which are the best dumplings I've had in NYC.

                                  I also think the Ma La Xiang Guo from Tian Fu (Stall #24) is better than Lao Ma's in the New World Mall. Since both places charge by the pound, you could get a small amount from each and do a side by side.

                                  If you're worried about M&T changing hands and possibly not getting a good meal, you might instead want to check out one of my three favorite restaurants on the southern side of Flushing, two of which are also ScoopG discoveries.

                                  1. Jiang Li, a Dongbei place on Kissena Blvd that ScoopG originally wrote up, which I've visited about six times. They have stellar pork belly, turnip and beef stew, very good dumplings, and many other things. Here's some of the stuff I've tried: http://www.flickr.com/photos/536/sets...

                                  2. Hunan Kitchen of Grand Sichuan, one of the best overall restaurants in Flushing. It's been written up in the NY Times. I've eaten there a bunch of times and tried a good portion of the menu, although I haven't kept my pictures up to date. Here are some of the dishes: http://www.flickr.com/photos/536/sets...

                                  3. Yi Lan Halal Restaurant, another ScoopG Dongbei discovery, is a place I've gone about 20 times! I love it. Service is very friendly and tea is much better than average. Their lamb shumai is cooked to order every time, I think including the wrappers, and is ridiculously good. A lot of the food is basic but delicious, such as the beef with tomatoes, which is slices of soft beef and tomatoes with a brown sauce, but there are also completely unique dishes (for Flushing anyway) such as the stir fried cake, which is sliced shao bing stir fried w/ vegetables, beef and egg: http://www.flickr.com/photos/536/sets...

                                  btw, my pal Eric writes up a lot of our meals on his blog, using my pics, if you want an easier way to reference them. Jiang Li is near the top, but you can find the other spots there as well, sometimes more than once: http://ericeatsout.blogspot.com/

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                                  Hunan Kitchen of Grand Sichuan
                                  42-47 Main St, Queens, NY 11355

                                  Jiang Li
                                  4418 Kissena Blvd, Queens, NY 11355

                                  Yi Lan Halal Restaurant
                                  42-79 Main St, Queens, NY 11355

                                  Savor Fusion
                                  42-01 Main St, Queens, NY 11355

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                                    scoopG RE: Peter Cuce Jan 8, 2012 07:19 AM

                                    Thanks Peter. Reminds me I have to get back there!

                                    Jiang Li – Northern/Manchurian:
                                    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/714292

                                    Yi Lan Halal Chinese:
                                    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/771124

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                                    wew RE: indiefoodie Jan 7, 2012 06:15 PM

                                    For variety at the lamb noodle place upstairs at golden mall get the sides of potato peanut veggies and lamb meat plate. Sides are available at many down stairs stalls
                                    It's winter so I would not want to walk too far. Yi Lan Halal Restaurant or either of the Hunan restos would be far enough for a digestive walk.

                                    A recommendation for the future -- In late spring or summer hit lots of restaurants for take out and meet at a camp site in Corona Park

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                                      Pookipichu RE: indiefoodie Jan 8, 2012 05:52 PM

                                      At Nan Xiang, the red bean pastry is a delicious and lightly sweet dessert.

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                                        indiefoodie RE: indiefoodie Jan 9, 2012 07:38 PM

                                        Thanks a lot everyone! Based on the suggestions, I've tweaked my original list a little bit. This is v1 so its missing some awesome places like 'Hunan Kitchen of Grand Sichuan'. Once I complete the ones listed here, I'll move onto those :) Here is the list in case someone finds it to be useful:

                                        TOUR

                                        1. White Bear: 135-02 Roosevelt Ave #5 Flushing, NY 11354. Tel - (718) 961-2322

                                        - Wontons in hot oil

                                        - Frozen dumpling for home

                                        2. Flushing Mall: 133-31 39th Ave, Flushing, NY 11354. Tel - (718) 886-5814. Order at centralized register, not at individual stalls

                                        - Temple snacks - Right side of the food court as you enter. Gua Bao (Pork belly bun - Taiwanese hamburger)

                                        - Juices/ Bubble tea vendor: Shaved ice

                                        3. Golden Mall: 41-28 Main St, Flushing, NY 11355

                                        - Lanzhou handmade noodles

                                        - Chengdu Heaven - Dan Dan noodles

                                        - Xian

                                        - Wang-Zheng's Halal Snacks ( 王郑清真小吃)

                                        4. Nan Xiang (Shian) Dumpling House: 38-12 Prince St, Flushing, NY 11354. Tel - (718) 321-3838

                                        - Xiao Long Bao (Soup dumplings)

                                        - Scallion pancake with beef

                                        5. Corner 28: 40-28 Main St, Flushing, NY 11355. Tel - (718) 886-6628

                                        - Roast duck buns (Mixed reviews)

                                        - DO NOT get the steamed rice crepes

                                        6. Fu Run: 40-09 Prince St, Flushing, NY 11354. Tel - (718) 321-1363

                                        - Muslim lamb chops (Highly recommended)

                                        - Fried taro cakes

                                        7. Sifou Chiu: Corner of Prince street (40-09 Prince street)

                                        - Hong Kong Hawker style fried wonton

                                        - Watercress dumpling

                                        8. Soy Bean Chan: 13526 Roosevelt Ave, Flushing, NY 11354. Tel - (718) 353-3232. Side of a flower shop.

                                        - Xian Dou Hua (Salty Silky Tofu)

                                        - Tian Dou Jiang (Sweet Soy Bean Milk)

                                        9. Xinjian BBQ Cart: 41st Ave & Kissena Blvd, Flushing, NY 11355

                                        - BBQ Kebabs on a stick

                                        10. New World Food Mall: 40-21 Main St, Flushing, NY 11354. (Between Main Street and Union)

                                        - Beautiful Memory Desserts: Mango Pancake

                                        - Lao Ma Mala Tang: Stall 16, Mala Xiang Guo (Hot pot) (Medium Spicy)

                                        RESTAURANTS

                                        1. Tong Sam Gyup Gyuo Goo Yi: 162-23 Depot Rd, Flushing, NY 11358. Tel - (718) 359-4583

                                        - Korean

                                        - Sangyup Sal - with bean sprouts, garlic, lettuce wraps

                                        - Fried rice pre-seasoned (they add after you've eaten half of the pork)

                                        2. M&T: 44-09 Kissena Blvd, Flushing, NY 11355. Tel - (718) 539-4100

                                        - Quingdao cuisine, ownership changed recently

                                        - Jiu Cai Chao Hai Cheng (椒鹽嶗山蔘)

                                        - Gelatinuos & slippery pork in aspic

                                        - Cucumber with pieces of fatty meat from a pigs face

                                        - Fried pumpkin cake (Dessert)

                                        - Pork belly stewed in kelp

                                        - Squid heads with cumin & hot peppers

                                        - Jie Mo Mu Er (芥茉木耳) Mustard Tree Ears

                                        - Clenched fist fern stir friend with pork

                                        - Fei Hong Fish

                                        - Fried taro cakes

                                        - Fried pork belly (ը炸五花肉 Zha Wu Hua Rou)

                                        3. Henan Fengwei: 136-31 41st Ave, Flushing, NY 11355. Tel - (718) 762-1818

                                        - Henan cuisine

                                        - Shi Jing Sha Guo - 10 item casserole

                                        - Yong Rou Hui Mian - Lamb noodle soup

                                        - Big chicken dish - Manhattan branch

                                        - Boiled dumpling (House special stuffing)

                                        4. Imperial Palace: 13613 37th Ave, Flushing, NY 11354. Tel - (718) 939-3501

                                        - Cantonese

                                        - Crab rice (hard to eat)

                                        - Crisply whole chicken

                                        - Peking pork chops

                                        - Braised fish

                                        - Pea shoots in crab sauce

                                        5. Canton gourmet: 3808 Prince St, Flushing, NY 11354. Tel - (718) 886-9288

                                        - Cantonese

                                        - Garlic crab

                                        - Garlic chicken

                                        6. Main Street Imperial Taiwanese ( Bei Gang): 5914 Main St, Flushing, NY 11355. Tel - (718) 886-8788

                                        - Taiwanese

                                        - Hakkanese little stir fry. No #26 on the 'Most popular specialty dishes section'.
                                        - Cong Ting Tou (Scallion fly head - fermented black beans, ground pork, chinese chive flowers (similar to chives, but it's thicker, more flavorful and has an edible bud on top), garlic, and these atomic little chilies)

                                        - One of the Putzs

                                        - Three cup chicken

                                        - Oyster omelet

                                        7. Yi Lan Halal: 42-79A Main St, Flushing, NY 11355. Tel - (718) 886-3622.

                                        - Northern Chinese cuisine

                                        - Lamb shumai

                                        - Beef with tomatoes

                                        - Ox tongue with tripe and spicy peppery sauce

                                        - Chao Bing - Stir fried cake. In the 'Rice and Noodles' section

                                        - Lamb with chilly pepper

                                        - "Hand-Teared" lamb hot pot (手抓羊肉 – shǒu zhuā yáng ròu) - Mutton soup. Only in Chinese in the in house menu. Called, 'hand teared lamb' in the take out menu

                                        8. Hunan House: 137-40 Northern Blvd, Flushing, NY 11354. Tel: (718) 353-1808.

                                        - Hunan cuisine

                                        - Hunan style slicked fish
                                        - Lamb with chilli sauce

                                        - Slicked fish with spicy sauce

                                        - Steamed spare ribs in bamboo

                                        - Shredded duck with fresh ginger

                                        - Large plate of lightly stir fried cauliflower

                                        - Liu Yang - Green chilly peppers in black bean sauce

                                        - Mashed peppers with tofu

                                        - Duck with white chillies

                                        - Steamed eggplant with sauted duck egg

                                        - White chillies with preserved beef

                                        - Braised fish head with pickled chillies

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                                          mookleknuck RE: indiefoodie Jan 10, 2012 06:46 AM

                                          Thanks, indiefoodie, for the nice resource!

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                                            Lau RE: indiefoodie Jan 10, 2012 08:07 AM

                                            thats a pretty good list

                                            btw:
                                            - Nan xiang: you should try some of their cold apps, they're very good
                                            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/776613
                                            http://www.lauhound.com/2011/04/nan-x...

                                            - Imperial palace: i wouldn't say the crab rice is hard to eat at all, the actual crab requires a little work (just like all crab does), but honestly its all about the rice b/c the juices from the crab runs into the rice and give it all its flavor

                                            - shifu chio: get the wonton noodle soup with wontons on the side
                                            http://www.lauhound.com/2010/09/shifu...

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                                            Nan Xiang Xiao Long Bao
                                            38-12 Prince St, Queens, NY 11354

                                            Imperial Palace
                                            136-13 37th Ave, Queens, NY 11354

                                            Sifu Chio
                                            40-09 Prince St, Queens, NY 11354

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                                              Pookipichu RE: Lau Jan 10, 2012 08:43 AM

                                              The rice is not hard to eat and it smells wonderful but it bears mentioning because I know many non-Asian people who do not want to be bothered cracking shells and pulling out bits of meat. I was at a Tournesol once and the lady next to me had ordered duck and when she received it, she loudly complained, "It's on the bone?".

                                              You may not think it's a big deal, but it's something to consider for other people who haven't had it before.

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                                                Lau RE: Pookipichu Jan 10, 2012 08:49 AM

                                                that is a fair statement, but i just didn't want to get someone to get the idea that the actual rice itself is hard to eat and that to turn them off to the dish

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                                            kathryn RE: indiefoodie Jan 18, 2012 01:46 AM

                                            Oh my! What a list! I hope you bring an army with you, that's a lotta eating!

                                            1. Travels4Food RE: indiefoodie Jan 17, 2013 07:08 AM

                                              I did something of this very sort yesterday, and while the food quality varied, I had SO much fun. It was just me, so my choices were somewhat limited, but here's what I tried and what I thought:

                                              Corner 28: I started here because I found it right off the 7 train on Main Avenue. I thought the buns were terrific: the bread is insanely fluffy and fresh, and there's not much that's more comforting than eating a steaming, fresh peking duck bun on a cold day.

                                              New World Mall: I'll give it a big thumbs sideways. It's basically a mall food court, only most of the stalls are Asian, so the quality is so-so. I did go to Tian Fu (stall # 24) and pick out ingredients for a dry stir-fry, and while it was fun and I highly recommend adding rice cakes, it was so salty I could barely get through the first few bites. They may have sprinkled MSG or salt on top, though, because some of the under-layer was less saline.

                                              Kung Fu Tea was excellent - I had a taro milk green tea, and it was complex and delicious.

                                              White Bear was closed for the day.

                                              I'll be heading back for another "crawl" next Friday, so I'll report back with more. Thanks so much for all the research - I stand (and eat) on the shoulders of giants!

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                                                Lau RE: Travels4Food Jan 17, 2013 07:20 AM

                                                while the new world mall food court is huge and looks kind of cool ive yet to find anything i think is real good there (anyone feel free to disagree and give me a good recommendation right now haha)

                                                if you're going to food crawl and want to try alot of different stuff at one place then id go to the golden mall next, the food quality is much better

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                                                  Peter Cuce RE: Travels4Food Jan 17, 2013 07:23 AM

                                                  Glad you enjoyed. One thing about mall food courts. In Asia, especially hot places like Southeast Asia, there's no negative connotation to mall food, some of which is just as good or better than food that isn't found in a mall. That's not to say that everything in New World Mall is good, but there are standouts, and personally, I love Tian Fu and would eat there anytime.

                                                2. Travels4Food RE: indiefoodie Jan 26, 2013 07:36 AM

                                                  As promised, I returned for foodie crawl part 2 yesterday and made some new discoveries. The xiao long bao (soup dumplings, written simply as "steamed pork dumplings" on the menu at Nan Xiang on Prince Street were moaningly, exquisitely good. They're made to order, so the soup inside will definitely burn your lips and mouth when you open the first dumpling, but it's so-o-o-o-o worth it for the rich broth that pours into your spoon and mixes with the dark vinegar and strands of ginger. The purses of dough could not be more delicious or enjoyable in their texture: I ate the whole entire order, all by myself, and find I'm dreaming about them today. The food at other tables also looked very good, so next time I hope I can drag a few friends there with me and try more.

                                                  White Bear: just as all the posts directed, I ordered the #6 wontons in hot oil. They were made fresh to order and took a while, and while the quantity was significant, the flavor was nonexistent. No heat, no sesame, nothing but the saltiness of the pickled vegetable scattered on top. I LOVE wontons in red/hot oil, and I was so enormously disappointed by this long-awaited version.

                                                  Ten Ren Tea: the best bubble/tapioca pearl tea I've ever had. Ten Ren is serious about their tea, and every drink was carefully made with ladles of tapioca pearls and jiggers of milk or syrup to flavor the tea. They are one of the most reasonably-priced bubble tea parlors, I've found, and the space is clean and bright.

                                                  One last "tip:" SkyFoods supermarket, at the end of Roosevelt Avenue (@ College Point) might be the best supermarket I've ever been in, anywhere. It is the size of a football field with high, wide aisles, and if you're looking for anything Asian and comestible of any particular brand, you will likely find it here. All I needed was a translator/tourguide, and I would have stayed for hours.

                                                  Indiefoodie - did you go to Flushing? Please report back if you did!

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                                                    kathryn RE: Travels4Food Jan 26, 2013 07:50 AM

                                                    The wontons at White Bear aren't Sichuan style wontons in red oil. I think they're Taiwanese style or something. So I don't think they're supposed to be super spicy. There's also no Sichuan peppercorn.

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                                                      E Eto RE: kathryn Jan 26, 2013 08:31 AM

                                                      That's right. They're not really Sichuan wontons. But still, I have to agree with Travels4Food. They lack flavor.

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                                                        Lau RE: kathryn Jan 26, 2013 09:00 AM

                                                        according to their sign (which i think is only in chinese) they are shandong style dumplings and the owners are definitely not taiwanese just based on their accents

                                                        you know i think its one of these love / hate type of things. I love those dumplings as do most of my friends, however i have heard people that think they are too plain especially if you were expecting sichuan style wontons in red oil i could see how you could say that b/c they are definitely not the flavor bomb of those dumplings. To me though they are probably the best made or pretty close to the best made wontons in NY

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                                                          diprey11 RE: kathryn Jan 26, 2013 04:35 PM

                                                          The wontons at White Bear are not genuinely Sichuan, although very good quality. IIRC, the sign on the door actually advertizes Shanghai-style wonton, which simply means a larger size wonton with bai cai added to the filling (linguistically this is the same idea as Swiss cheese.)

                                                          If you are craving spicy Sichuan wontons done right, consider ordering them at the Sichuan stall (成都天府) in the Golden Mall. I personally think their rendition is superior in every respect: even more tender, juicy, thin-skinned, etc, etc.

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                                                          diprey11 RE: Travels4Food Jan 26, 2013 04:25 PM

                                                          I thought NanXiang had closed due to a labor dispute. (Remember the old good Guangzhou Family Restaurant? puff!) I would LOVE to be wrong though.

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                                                            fourunder RE: diprey11 Jan 28, 2013 07:02 PM

                                                            i don't know why it was closed.....but I tried to go there on the evening of the 16th after dropping off my son at JFK.....it looked like there was some cleaning and renovation work being done inside The tables, chairs and counter were removed.....and there was a sign on the door saying they would be open on the 18th.

                                                            So I ended up at...A Taste of Shanghai.

                                                            Fried Dumplings...good
                                                            XLB.......................fair
                                                            Pork Shank...........fair to good
                                                            Sauteed Eel...........EXCELLENT

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                                                              Lau RE: fourunder Jan 28, 2013 07:24 PM

                                                              taste of shanghai is pretty good, but not for their dumplings / XLB...their regular shanghainese food is probably one of the best in NY right now if you order right

                                                              i reviewed it a while ago, but ive been thinking about re-reviewing it with pics etc this time

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                                                                fourunder RE: Lau Jan 28, 2013 08:36 PM

                                                                I know your pics and review will be much better than mine......and I look forward to it.

                                                                 
                                                                 
                                                                 
                                                                 
                                                                 
                                                                 
                                                                 
                                                                 
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                                                                  fourunder RE: Lau Jan 28, 2013 08:38 PM

                                                                  I know your pics and review will be much better than mine......and I look forward to it.

                                                                   
                                                                   
                                                                   
                                                                   
                                                                   
                                                                   
                                                                   
                                                                   
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                                                                    Lau RE: fourunder Jan 29, 2013 06:11 AM

                                                                    thanks!

                                                                    the ti pang (pork shoulder) is pretty good there, ill have to try the eels as i like that dish generally although some places make it too sweet.

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                                                              diprey11 RE: Travels4Food Jan 26, 2013 04:51 PM

                                                              What can I say? People love Ten Ren tea: bubble tea, fruit tea, and so on. Teenagers prefer Quickly though.

                                                              The real hard core tea store offering hand-rolled, hand-roasted teas can be annoyingly more expensive. I am so happy to report there is such a (snobbish) store right across the street: 芳茗軒 (Fang Gourmet Tea) I have been their loyal customer for over five years and I have nothing but praise for them.

                                                            3. Polecat RE: indiefoodie Jan 28, 2013 04:58 PM

                                                              Iris Tea & Bakery's trunk bread deserves a spot on anyone's Flushing walking tour, with their cuttlefish bun a close second.

                                                              I'm in the neighborhood weekly and almost never pass up the temptation.

                                                              Wash it down with a Hokkaido milk tea.
                                                              P.

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                                                                Lau RE: Polecat Jan 28, 2013 06:07 PM

                                                                when was the last time you went there? according to yelp its closed

                                                                http://www.yelp.com/biz/iris-tea-and-...

                                                                this is annoying if it was b/c it looked like a real modern taiwanese bakery which ive yet to see in NY (they are so awesome in taiwan)

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                                                                  Polecat RE: Lau Jan 28, 2013 11:21 PM

                                                                  Just yesterday, actually. very much alive and well with a good amount of foot traffic.

                                                                  they're bread-based stuff is fun and innovative in the best ways; there's always new stuff out on the shelves. the bakers seem to be having a blast, and, at its' best, it shows. strawberry buns on pink, chewy bread, cream inside. the japanese roll is one of many nods to Japan, which is a big part of the point, the delicacy and light sweetness of Japan's nods to France, and so on. What comes out is Iris' own, unique twist on a twist.

                                                                  Very much worth it. Like I say, go for the trunk bread. The trunk bread, man. Stay for other stuff. And enjoy.

                                                                  I'm not aware that they moved either, by the way.

                                                                  P.

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                                                                    Lau RE: Polecat Jan 29, 2013 09:04 AM

                                                                    trunk bread looked good

                                                                    i def look forward to trying it, i really miss modern bakeries in taipei, they are so awesome. they're generally kind of upscale and everything is really fresh and awesome

                                                                    man i need to go back...ok i just decided that im going to taiwan this year

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                                                                  Lau RE: Polecat Jan 28, 2013 06:07 PM

                                                                  actually never mind, yelp said they moved
                                                                  http://www.yelp.com/biz/iris-tea-and-...

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                                                                    saria RE: Polecat Jan 29, 2013 07:43 AM

                                                                    I'm willing to try Iris again, but I wasn't all that taken with anything when a friend and I tried it out. I got an almond jelly that was just way too firm, the trunk bread, which I thought was pretty good though not something I'd crave (my friend thought it was too sweet, but she's even more sugar-adverse than I am), and something else that involved sponge cake wrapped in a crepe.

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                                                                      bmorecupcake RE: saria 1 day ago

                                                                      We happened upon Iris today and were pleasantly surprise, although not having read about it our expectations were low. The trunk bread instantly caught my eye, and I quite liked it. I must say it didn't travel well. When I had the leftover bit eight hours later, it had dried up considerably and was hard to chew. Another bread we got from there, I think it was labeled "raisin", had a crunchy topping and a sweet cream filling. It started familiar, like "oh no, here we go again, that bad Wonder Bread taste typical of Chinatown Bakery chains", but actually got better the more I ate it. (I had a similar experience with the Apple Bread at Tous Les Jours, but this was better.) The sandwich type bread at Iris (I think it was labeled brioche) was just passable.

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