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Thanks to the Majority of Restaurants/Cooks/Waiters Who are Clean, But About Those who AREN'T...

UnderDogg Dec 30, 2011 11:07 AM

Those few restaurants/staff who don't follow clean procedures and serve food that's been dropped on the floor, past its prime, spit, or put other bodily secretions into it are a cancer to the Industry. I and most of my family dine out a lot less now because of what has surfaced on the news off and on, and those of you that use dirty food handling practices are only screwing yourselves over, because if people stop coming to you (or your boss') establishment, you may have to kiss your job "Bye Bye".

  1. mtoo Dec 30, 2011 01:29 PM

    I'm not sure what specifically you are talking about, but in all my years waiting tables, I have never seen a cook/waiter/bartender/busser screw around with the food. Never ever.

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    1. re: mtoo
      Jay F Dec 30, 2011 02:10 PM

      Neither did I in the ten years I worked in food. Not once. Ever.

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      fuzzy510 Dec 30, 2011 01:37 PM

      Actually, if you're dining out less now across the board because of the actions of a few isolated idiots (which I've also never seen happen in all my time in and around the industry), then we ALL might have to kiss our job goodbye. If it happens to you, then rightfully trash that place to your heart's content. But you're not helping anybody by deciding to not eat out at all because of stories you hear.

      1. Terrie H. Dec 30, 2011 02:53 PM

        You really could actually explain what you are talking about underdog or your point will be completely lost because most people can tell you that you are incorrect. I see that it's your first post here so you may have come here with this post for a particular restaurant, but...

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        1. re: Terrie H.
          UnderDogg Jan 1, 2012 09:04 PM

          I actually saw this on one of those shows that puts up hidden cameras in restaurant kitchens. Notice that I prefaced this by noting that this does not reflect on the majority.

        2. ttoommyy Dec 30, 2011 05:02 PM

          If what you say is really happening, do you truly believe it's a recent phenomenon? If you saw a news report on a cook who spit in someone's food, do you think this is something new? I'm not saying it happens all the time, but if it does happen, chances are it's happened before. Is there a specific incident that happened to you that is making you eat out less?

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          1. re: ttoommyy
            gaffk Dec 30, 2011 06:43 PM

            I don't know. I'm with those who have already chimed in . . . I worked in food places while in school and I never saw anyone ever compromise the food.

            Decades later I eat out often and never think about this . I think it's an urban myth?

            1. re: ttoommyy
              UnderDogg Jan 1, 2012 09:11 PM

              Again, it's based on one of those hidden camera shows. Also, my brother in law knows a few people who worked at Chinese buffets, and they claimed that they're especially notorious for hiring seasonal "help" that doesn't really care about the quality; that they routinely would put food that was dropped on the floor back into what is supposed to be served or put out there. I myself have had at least two incidents at restaurants where I drank out of a water glass and only too late after putting my mouth on it, discovered lipstick on the rim because they didn't wash it. Some places I've been to I've had to ask the waiter or waitress to give me a new plate because of obvious food specks left on it, so in my case its been more an issue of wondering how careful (or careless) they are in cleaning things. While most of the places I've encountered this were apologetic, I did receive a dirty look from the bus boy (who was obviously from a different place that doesn't have standards) for daring to politely refuse a dirty dish.

              1. re: UnderDogg
                twyst Jan 1, 2012 09:21 PM

                "I myself have had at least two incidents at restaurants where I drank out of a water glass and only too late after putting my mouth on it, discovered lipstick on the rim because they didn't wash it"

                As someone who worked as a bartender for 6 years while in college, I have to disagree that "their was lipstick on the glass because they didnt wash it". You can run a glass with certain types of lipstick on it through the dishwasher 50 times and it wont come off. Its very common to pick up a glass from a rack that is fresh from the dishwasher and see that there is still lipstick on the glass. Sometimes when its very busy in low light conditions a glass with lipstick may occasionally slip by and get served. Its unfortunate, but its not because the glass wasnt washed, theres a lot of waterproof lipstick on the market now and it doesnt come off of glasses with normal washing procedures.

                1. re: UnderDogg
                  Quine Jan 2, 2012 07:57 AM

                  It's clear that you wish to believe this, tales from people who know people who heard from people crap. And what TV show has hidden camera deals? Chowser is right. If you believe in this sort of thing, you will never leave your house and slowly starve to dead because you could never get food delivered (OMG! what did the packing plant do to it? The delivery man do to it?) and could not even grow your own food because what is in the water? In the rain? there's microbes in the soil, slimy earthworms and bugs. But don't worry, the World ends this year! I saw that on TV and heard it from someone who heard it on TV too!

              2. pdxgastro Dec 30, 2011 09:02 PM

                It's a serious issue: http://www.cnn.com/2011/12/29/health/...

                The poor writer Elizabeth suffered for 5 years before she got the correct diagnosis: Parasites. "It can be transmitted by an infected person who has skipped washing his hands after going to the bathroom, then handled your food."

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                  twyst Dec 30, 2011 09:17 PM

                  lol "It can be transmitted......"

                  So she has no idea how she got it, but thinks its possible that she got it from eating in a restaurant. Gotta love the way media tries to scare the masses. Every restaurant Ive ever worked at is freakishly vigilant about following safety guidelines. If people get sick at your place you are more than likely going to have to close your business because people wont come to your establishment anymore. People do get sick from eating food sometimes, but people also get sick from touching doorhandles etc. To quote my servsafe instructor "Food safety and sanitation is better now that it has ever been since the dawn of civilization, and the human race has survived this long."

                  1. re: pdxgastro
                    fuzzy510 Dec 30, 2011 09:33 PM

                    One case where somebody picks up a virus that CAN be transmitted through poor sanitation, and suddenly it's a serious issue where people don't properly handle food?

                    If you're truly that paranoid and susceptible to overreaction, you have no business doing ANYTHING outside of your own home, much less dining out.

                    1. re: pdxgastro
                      Dave5440 Jan 1, 2012 08:37 AM

                      5 years for a diagnosis? Seriously? I thought the states had great doctors, even our crummy ontario healthcare system caught parasites in me in 3 days(mind you I waited 4 weeks before I went in to get it checked) at a walk-in clinic no less. They even knew what type of parasite and it's origin (raw milk).

                      1. re: pdxgastro
                        Quine Jan 1, 2012 05:25 PM

                        It can also be transmitted by hands on your grocery cart, handles on doors, using a keyboard (one of the worst eye infections I ever had got was transmitted that way) many, many ways. If you listen to stories like that, sell all you own and party since it is 2012 and the world end this year! Idiots; what would we do for entertainment or politicians without them?

                      2. ipsedixit Dec 30, 2011 09:09 PM

                        I'm sorry, but I must've missed your point.

                        Are you saying that restaurant workers will sometimes mess with your food? If so, then that's not news. Been happening since the beginning of time.

                        Or are you saying we should eat out less (or not at all) because of restaurant workers messing with our food? If so, then that's like taking a sledge hammer to kill a fly. Not only is it overkill, but most likely you'll miss the fly.

                        So, then, I must ask again. What exactly is your point?

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                        1. re: ipsedixit
                          LindaWhit Jan 1, 2012 07:16 AM

                          I'm thinking the point is to rile people up in a first/only-time post. Perhaps the OP saw something in *one* restaurant and is posting their disgust about it? But it certainly doesn't mean that every restaurant is that way. If that were the case, most wouldn't be serving the public.

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                          mojoeater Dec 30, 2011 09:40 PM

                          I, too, don't understand what this is all about. I worked in restaurants for years and definitely saw some questionable things, but I see worse in friends home kitchens. I also live with a molecular biologist and he would tell you that overall, illness is most frequently passed through interaction with children, friends and coworkers with whom we have the most interaction (hence doorknobs, counters and such). He'd also say we have less to worry about than a generation or two ago.

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                          1. re: mojoeater
                            Sue in Mt P Dec 31, 2011 03:27 AM

                            That biologist would know, right?

                            I work with children and get slimed by one year olds an a regular basis. And I get colds from that, no matter how I try to prevent it. I won't be avoiding kids because of it, but I will keep taking EmergenC.

                            1. re: Sue in Mt P
                              LindaWhit Jan 1, 2012 07:17 AM

                              LOL at the phrase "get slimed by one year olds". :-D

                          2. chowser Jan 1, 2012 07:05 PM

                            I wonder where this train of thought will lead...no more driving because although the majority of drivers are sober, there are those who are drunk; no more going into buildings because while most civil engineers are thorough, there have been bridges and building that have fallen because of mistakes; fear of being near others because they could be carrying germs; no more flying; fear of banks because of possible embezzlement. This could lead to a serious case of agoraphobia.

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                              gaffk Jan 1, 2012 07:47 PM

                              And a serious trend of litigation.

                              1. re: gaffk
                                ipsedixit Jan 1, 2012 07:49 PM

                                Having worked in more restaurant kitchens than I care to remember, this happens more than you can believe, or realize.

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                                  gaffk Jan 1, 2012 08:01 PM

                                  In a previous life I spent 10 years as an insurance claims rep . . . believe me, I realize.

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