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decent bagels in lower hudson valley?

jennyem Dec 18, 2011 07:00 AM

Anyone know where to get GOOD bagels in the lower Hudson valley, east of the Hudson? Like, northern Westchester, Putnam, southern Dutchess (up to Poughkeepsie)? Properly prepared bagels, not the kind that taste like a roll with a hole in the middle. I can't always get to Kossar's on the Lower East Side, Ess-a-Bagel in Manhattan or Terrace Bagels in Windsor Terrace, Brooklyn, the three places I have come to hold up as a standard by which all bagels are measured. I like Bagel Power in Scarsdale too but I was hoping to find something further north. Thanks!

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    Elisa515 Dec 18, 2011 08:02 AM

    Bagels on Hudson in Croton-on-Hudson. In the Croton Commons shopping center just off the Rte. 129 exit off Rte. 9.

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      vinouspleasure Dec 22, 2011 10:56 PM

      these could be great bagels as they've solved the hardest problems of crust and consistency. Unfortunately, imo, they use far too much sugar making them almost inedible. A shame as the only place that comes close is a good 20 minute drive.

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        Elisa515 Dec 25, 2011 12:38 PM

        I don't think I've ever noticed sugar in these bagels. All types, or just some?

        I do know they make them on premises the old fashioned way. As a kid, I made bagels at home because we lived in a rural area and rarely were anywhere we could buy them. I like being able to peer into the back and see the big boiling vats.

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          vinouspleasure Dec 25, 2011 07:33 PM

          I've only tried poppy and sesame, not sure if extends to everything but I'd guess so as I can taste it in the dough. I dunno, my wife doesn't taste the sugar but then she doesn't understand why I like ess-a-bagel so much more than say stew leonards bagels.

          I do agree that their process is great and it results in just the right crust and texture. Over the years I've thought about bringing in a city bagel to see if they can make some like that. But I don't want to insult them...

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          DGresh Jul 18, 2012 05:34 AM

          I absolutely agree with you about them being much too sweet. My theory was that they use part whole wheat (seems that way anyway) and use the sugar to try to "help" the flavor. I just don't like them.

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        51rich Dec 18, 2011 10:07 AM

        probably not too convenient but the bagel shop in the golden horseshoe in north end of new rochelle is very good, otherwise rely on the ones from fairway

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          addictedtolunch Dec 18, 2011 10:44 AM

          This is distant to you but after eating my way through most bagelries in Manhattan, Queens and Westchester I am quite partial to the little chaotic bagel shop at the Quaker Ridge shopping center in north New Rochelle. Just the right amount of crispness and resistance to the skin, not overly sweet and puffy in the middle like H & H, nor too dense. Fairway is fine too, but just slightly less character.

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            chowhound22 Jan 10, 2013 12:02 PM

            Have to agree with you, addictedtolunch!

          2. roxlet Dec 18, 2011 01:18 PM

            We are former city dwellers and are very big fans of Park Place Bagels In Bronxville. Until we found them, we were so unhappy with what we could find locally. They also run the bagel place in Chester Heights.

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              wincountrygirl Dec 19, 2011 03:32 AM

              Until recently I was buying my bagels in NYC and freezing them. But I found HIghlands II on upper Central Avenue in Hartsdale/White Plains. It's in the same shopping center as TJ Maxx just above Christmas Tree Shops. Very good bialys and the bagels are nice and firm on the outside and not puffy or huge. Very tasty and a good alternative.

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                selhal Dec 19, 2011 06:05 PM

                Have you tried their smoked salmon or salads?

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                  wincountrygirl Dec 20, 2011 03:31 AM

                  No. I live near the Mt. Kisco smokehouse and their smoked fishes are amazing. I don't even look for better!

              2. menton1 Dec 25, 2011 10:32 AM

                BTW, Kossar's on the LES is famous for BIALYS, not bagels. Totally different animal.

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                  jennyem Dec 25, 2011 02:34 PM

                  Well, it is true that bialys are what Kossar's is most widely known for, and their bialys are delightful, but have you tried their bagels? Still better than most.

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                    menton1 Dec 25, 2011 03:12 PM

                    Kossar's buys their bagels from an outside supplier-- but of course, they make their BIALYS.

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                      jennyem Dec 25, 2011 03:16 PM

                      What supplier do they buy them from?

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                        menton1 Dec 25, 2011 03:24 PM

                        Not sure. Do you know?

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                          jennyem Dec 25, 2011 03:28 PM

                          Well, whoever does make their bagels makes them well. Makes sense that they're tight-lipped about it, since then one could conceivably find the same bagels elsewhere.

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                  jennyem Dec 25, 2011 02:56 PM

                  After posting the original post a week ago, I tried Beacon Bagel in Beacon, and am happy to report it is good! Nice thick, resistant crust and chewy, dense consistency. So far, they're the best bagels I've found in my local area.

                  1. Cookingcutie Dec 25, 2011 08:11 PM

                    If you are ever in rockland county/Suffern, try Bagel Boys across from the airmont diner. They are a bit overpriced, but I've never tasted a bagel quite like theirs. There's a readon they are packed and moved to a larger location a few months ago.

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                      vinouspleasure Dec 25, 2011 08:33 PM

                      I like these too! Also, there's a david's bagels fairly close to suffern. If, like me, to get to nj you take the bear mnt bridge to the pallisades, david's is right off the suffern exit of the pallisades.

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                        Cookingcutie Dec 26, 2011 06:13 AM

                        I'll check them out. I grew up in suffern and work in suffern although I live in Eastchedter now.

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                      johnfogelman Jul 17, 2012 02:45 PM

                      Being a Bronx boy growing up quite a few decades ago a few blocks away from the bagel bakery in a downstairs shop on Jerome Avenue, I am used to bagels being only plain or salted. Not rolls. Not large. Not soft. Not green. They were smaller, crusty with a delicious chewy center. We have tried bagels everywhere in Rockland, and so far the best have been at Bagels D'LOx on Route 59 in Monsey. They are kosher so they are closed Friday afternoon and Saturday. Worth the trip.

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                        addictedtolunch Jul 17, 2012 06:43 PM

                        That place on Jerome, and the smell, lives in my memory. Can't imagine they are better now (deadly amount of salt though).

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                          wincountrygirl Jan 10, 2013 02:34 PM

                          Ahhhhhhhhh. I love that place in the Bronx. Those were bagels. You're right - no gimmicks, just great bagels. Nothing in Westchester comes close.

                        2. saturngrrl Jul 19, 2012 01:13 PM

                          If I can't get bagels from Murray's in NYC, the next best place for me is Nyack Hot Bagels on Route 59 in The Hub (I think?) shopping center.

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                            liza219 Mar 4, 2013 05:25 PM

                            +1. Been living in Westchester 5+ years, and still an't find a place as good as Nyack Bagels.

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                              paris1976 Mar 12, 2013 06:39 AM

                              There's a new place that opened in Tuckahoe called the Bagel Loft. They are pretty good.

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                            ryanallday Jul 20, 2012 07:07 AM

                            JV Hot Bagels in yorktown heights is my go to bagel place

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                              lauren7272 Aug 14, 2012 10:47 AM

                              Suzy's Bagels in Fishkill- 30 minutes south of Poughkeepsie

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                                luv2eatct Jan 18, 2013 08:24 AM

                                Mt Kisco Bagels on main street near the hospital. Always warm, inside light and fluffy outside nice shell. Many different spreads. They dont have smoked salmon but as anothe person mentioned you can go to Mt Kisco smokehouse and get all the smoked fish tomatoes, onions , capers and a nice selection of cheeses for a great breakfast.

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                                  ajs42548 Mar 8, 2013 04:20 PM

                                  Bagels are NOT supposed to be light and fluffy on the inside. Light and fluffy is white bread. Bagels are supposed to be dense and chewy on the inside.

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                                    wincountrygirl Mar 12, 2013 06:55 AM


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                                  bonacbub Mar 4, 2013 07:53 AM

                                  Hand Rolled Bagels in Rye is by far the best bagel outside of Manhattan and I would pit them against 99% of Manhattan stores too

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                                    roxlet Mar 4, 2013 08:56 AM

                                    I'd say that about Park Place Bagels in Bronxville, and we used to live down the street from Tal. Only thing they don't do well that Tal did was bialys.

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                                    lemarais Mar 4, 2013 08:54 AM

                                    In Ardsley, there are 2 bagel places adjacent to each other (across a small street). One is very good (Stars) and the other is AWFUL (Sunshine, I think?) Interesting that they both stay around.

                                    Stars has very good bagels, nice and crisp, not "fluffy" (a bagel is not supposed to have this characteristic). They have a nice deli area with good sandwiches as well.

                                    Sunshine bagels taste like Lender's/

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