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meinNYC Dec 13, 2011 02:00 PM

This has irked me for years. What is this slogan saying? Is it that with a dopey name like Smuckers it has to be at least good tasting? Is there some other interpretation? I know in the grand scheme of the world this is trivial, but they keep running that ad with the kids delivering jam (and they missed my house again) and I started wondering. Help me get it......

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    Angela Roberta Dec 13, 2011 02:09 PM

    They are playing up their company's history. Real people, a real family, the Smuckers, who cared about their product. It's not a made-up, folksy-sounding trademark, like Bartles & James. I have always liked these commercials a lot. The jams are OK.

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      Steve Dec 13, 2011 02:10 PM

      It's not a particularly attractive name, so it must be the product which is so good for it to be successful all these years.

      For example, 'Grandma's Homemade Jam' might sell to folks even though it tastes like artificial sweetener and melted gummi bears.

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        ratgirlagogo Dec 13, 2011 08:58 PM

        By george this man has got it. It's an ugly name that sounds like it might be a secret obscenity.

        I had an aunt and uncle (since passed) who grew blackcap raspberries. They were only able to sell the better crops to Smucker's (who paid higher prices). During the not-so-hot years they had to sell to Smart and Final Iris.

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          KaimukiMan Dec 14, 2011 08:24 PM

          wow, good to know.

          one of the few things my two grandmother's agreed on was smuckers. of course one liked it with skippy and the other with jif, but they agreed on the smackers.

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            John E. Dec 14, 2011 08:30 PM

            Smucker also makes Jif.

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              silence9 Dec 20, 2011 02:14 PM

              Skippy, Smuckers and Jif all sound like the names of childhood pets/dogs.

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                John E. Dec 20, 2011 06:38 PM

                When I hear the name Smuckers I think of the Golden Retriever from the Seinfeld episode where the dog had the same cough as Kramer.

      2. hungryann Dec 13, 2011 02:14 PM

        I've also wondered that and why they sponsor the segment on the Today show featuring people over 100 years old. What does jam have to do with longevity?

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          sunshine842 Dec 13, 2011 02:27 PM

          it's not Smucker's per se -- the 100-year birthdays were first started by weatherman Willard Scott back in the day. The segment proved enormously popular, so Smucker's lined up to sponsor it...and it's apparently been good for NBC and Smucker's ever since, if they're still doing it every morning.

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            pdxgastro Dec 13, 2011 02:34 PM

            Everyone knows old people LOVE jam. ;o)

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              mucho gordo Dec 13, 2011 03:24 PM

              It's a perfect match. The product has been around as long as the the celebrating centenarians.

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              ricepad Dec 13, 2011 08:06 PM

              I can't hear the Smuckers slogan without thinking of the SNL skit: "Mangled Baby Ducks! That's right, Mangled Baby Ducks! Picture a jam so good that you’d dare to call it Mangled Baby Ducks! Great Jam! It’s beautiful jam!"

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                Steve Dec 13, 2011 08:13 PM

                PRI

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                  WNYamateur Dec 14, 2011 07:57 AM

                  +1

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                    TroyTempest Dec 15, 2011 11:11 AM

                    I'm with you ricepad. That was the first thing i thought of.
                    To further expand on this. I can't post it here because the mods will take it off. They probably will anyway, but look under Jams in this wiki entry:
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_...

                  2. Bill Hunt Dec 13, 2011 08:19 PM

                    My take on this is that :Smuckers," is not a common name, so if they are sticking with it, and using it on the jar, they are confident that the contents are great.

                    Maybe I am missing something.

                    Hunt

                    1. ipsedixit Dec 13, 2011 08:38 PM

                      The fact you are asking should answer your question.

                      1. John E. Dec 13, 2011 08:51 PM

                        It means the company, J.M. Smucker Company, did research that told them that people trusted the name "Smucker's" and that the name represented a good tasting product. Apparently, their testing showed people responded favorably to the name so they created the slogan to reinforce that feeling. It's advertising 101.

                        Years ago there was a TV commercial that had the announcer saying a particular brand of TV was rated higher than all the others, including Sony. There was a Japanese man yelling words in Japanese on the side of the picture. The announcer said that this particular TV even beat Sony but you know what? Nobody remembers the brand of TV that beat Sony, they only remember how good Sony was. I think the Sony brand is not as strong in the HDTV world as it was in conventional tube televisions, but the point was made.

                        1. greygarious Dec 13, 2011 09:06 PM

                          Maybe I've been overthinking this all along, but my understanding has always been along these lines: I assume the name Smucker is derived from the German "schmück", which means adornment or decoration. In Yiddish slang, Schmuck is an off-color insult meaning "a jerk", derived from an alternate definition of Schmuck as penis (which I figure is related to "family jewels", an inference from the adornment meaning). So, either the slogan means something along the lines of "if we're going to use this iffy name for our product, it better be a good one to make up for it", or a more direct reference to the main German meaning of adornment or jewel, as in "this product is a real gem".

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                            John E. Dec 13, 2011 10:01 PM

                            You're right, you have over-thinked it. The company was started by a guy named Jerome Monre Smucker, that is, J.M. Smucker.

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                              Kelli2006 Dec 14, 2011 03:09 AM

                              You don't have to over-think it.

                              BTW Smucker is a very common name in NE Ohio but I will not buy their products because of the current co-CEO's political views and their use of HFCS.

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                                John E. Dec 14, 2011 07:35 AM

                                Which part did I over-think? I don't eat much jelly or jam because I never acquired the habit. We have so much home-made jam that Smucker's or any other store bought product of its type is even considered, regardless of political views. The only product I avoid because of the political views of the company principals is Ben & Jerry's.

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                                  Kelli2006 Dec 14, 2011 01:18 PM

                                  I was agreeing with you that the founder was Jerome M. Smucker. The products and company has gone downhill since they went public because since that decision they are more focused on profit than quality.

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                                    John E. Dec 14, 2011 01:34 PM

                                    What I learned from posting on this thread is that Smucker owns a lot more food products than I ever imagined. Who would have thought that Smucker owns Pillsbury Flour?

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                                      Kelli2006 Dec 14, 2011 02:52 PM

                                      They own Jif/Crisco, Folgers and a few smaller jam/jelly lines, plus they also package many store brands and brands outside the US.

                                      I grew up eating their ketchup and I miss it because it was almost a jelly instead of the much thinner product such as Heinz.

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                                        John E. Dec 14, 2011 03:38 PM

                                        They own that and much more. Read their Wikipedia entry and see a more complete list.

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                                          jumpingmonk Dec 14, 2011 05:10 PM

                                          Well, I know they also own the Natural Brew soda line. Actually the fact that they did got me out of a lot of trouble in high school and my early colledge days. Becuse the soda comes in a short necked glass bottle, and some of the flavors they sold back then were simply referred to as "brews" (Summer Brew and Winter Brew come to mind) a lot of people assumed that I was drinking beer or wine coolers underage, and some tried to get me in trouble with campus police for this (there is a statement of non-alchholic content, but back then it was only on the top of the bottle cap, which you probably threw in the trash when you opened the bottle. But if I pointed to the part of the label that stated it was produced by Smuckers, they tended to accept my claim it was just soda, as they could not imagine Smuckers peddling alcohol.
                                          On the name, I'm also wondering if they are trying to cash in on some onomonopeid. To some people "smuckers" might conjure up the image of smacking lips, i.e. something tasty.

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                                greygarious Dec 14, 2011 08:33 AM

                                I know that it's a surname. So is Lipschitz, but can you imagine having to come up with an ad campaign for "Lipschitz Lollipops"? Significant ick factor to be overcome there!

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                                  John E. Dec 14, 2011 08:56 AM

                                  I don't think it occurs to most Americans to be bothered by the name Smucker. It is spelled differently and most do not have the language and/or cultural experience to make the connection. Actually, the reverse is true, thus the slogan.

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                              dapperdon Dec 13, 2011 10:10 PM

                              I am not a fan of Smuckers. A number of years ago we bought a jar of Smuckers jam, probably raspberry. After my wife and I tried it we threw the jar out as it was so sweet we could not eat it. We are on the west coast of Canada, Vancouver. My wife heard there was lower sugar formulation for Canada but if that was low sugar then...
                              Or usual brand is Safeway’s house brand which seems to be the same as the old Empress brand that was made in Canada but is now made in the US.

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                                John E. Dec 14, 2011 05:56 PM

                                If you are in western Canada, shouldn't you be eating Canada Jam, formerly Malikin's. I like the cherry best, although as I posted earlier, I don't eat much jam but I like the story of this product.

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                                hazelhurst Dec 14, 2011 07:47 AM

                                AM I making this up, or was the slogan originally "It's got to be good."? I seem to remember cringing at that because I had a great-aunt who's 1890's school marm insisted that "got" was a vulgar word and she defied anyone to find a use of it that could not be replaced. (e.g. "I've got to go" being replaced by "I must go[leave]", "I've got a key to that house" becomes "I have a key to that house." &c. I wondered if some language mavens (Bill Safire's "gotcha gang"...there's a use!) had hounded Smuckers.

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                                  penthouse pup Dec 14, 2011 07:55 AM

                                  Hazelhurst--"It's Got Be Good" is the tag Borden's used for many years (and maybe that's what you're remembering as in "If it's Bordens, it's got to be good.") Smuckers' tag has everything to with Schmuck(er) which in the past (and to some extent still) had a deeply pejorative connotation. Lenny Bruce got into trouble for saying it (along with a lot of other words.)

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                                    hazelhurst Dec 14, 2011 07:59 AM

                                    OK, the Borden's sounds familiar...I thought Irecalled Mason Adams intoning the "got" and then noticing a change but maybe that is a trickof the mind after all these years.

                                    All the foregoing just reminds me of the time Alfonse D. used a Yiddish word not knowing its true perjorative meaning and they had to run to Koch to get the translation.

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                                      John E. Dec 14, 2011 08:30 AM

                                      By the way, Borden's is owned by J.M. Smucker. (Kelli has a long list of things she has to boycott, if she only knew).

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                                    beevod Dec 14, 2011 08:25 AM

                                    It's called a "creative" ad slogan.

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                                      escondido123 Dec 14, 2011 04:00 PM

                                      I'm in advertising and beevod has it right. A bunch of guys sitting around a room trying to figure out how to make a jam called Smuckers seem good. I think it is a very clever slogan--and it appears we all know it so that says something.

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                                        sunshine842 Dec 14, 2011 11:24 PM

                                        even though it's the name of the guy that founded the company....

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                                          escondido123 Dec 15, 2011 09:15 AM

                                          Not even though, but because it's his name. I didn't say they made up the name, it was what they had to start with. (Knowing ad agencies they might have suggested changing the name.)

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                                            Kelli2006 Dec 15, 2011 09:56 AM

                                            I doubt that he consulted or even heard of advertising agancies when old Jerome started selling apple butter with a push cart.

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                                              escondido123 Dec 15, 2011 10:09 AM

                                              And I doubt he had that slogan at that time. I assume it came at a much later date when they decided to go national.

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                                                escondido123 Dec 15, 2011 10:12 AM

                                                I just checked the Smuckers website; the slogan was created in 1962.

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                                        meinNYC Dec 14, 2011 01:28 PM

                                        Okay folks, I see that I got it right to begin with. Just good to have it confirmed.....

                                        1. mariacarmen Dec 14, 2011 02:21 PM

                                          wow, i'm the only one that, as a kid, thought the name had a pleasant ring to it? kind of put me in mind of "lip-smacking"....

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                                            bagelman01 Dec 14, 2011 04:09 PM

                                            no you are not the only one that thinks the name has a pleasant ring to it.

                                            I don't eat jam or jelly, so I don't buy the product, but there is a definite connection between the sound of the first syallable>>>smuh and the sound and mouth position of mmmmm.
                                            Simialr to the old Camnpbell's soup commercials mmm mmm good

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                                              Veggo Dec 14, 2011 04:56 PM

                                              A contraction of smack and pucker - imagery of a nice kiss, and certainly more mellifluous than the contemporary "suck face"....

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                                                mariacarmen Dec 14, 2011 05:16 PM

                                                thanks for the validation. I used to eat it a lot as a kid - it's all my parents bought - but i very rarely eat jams/jellies now.

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                                                akq Dec 15, 2011 04:32 PM

                                                That's what I always throught they meant, too...

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                                                Jjjr Dec 14, 2011 08:41 PM

                                                Ask Mother Smucker.

                                                1. Itsmy6 Dec 15, 2011 05:36 AM

                                                  Speaking of Smuckers I love how their Simply Fruit line has pineapple and apple juice in it. If it's simply fruit shouldn't it just be the fruit on the label?

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                                                    sunshine842 Dec 15, 2011 03:44 PM

                                                    not at all -- if the label says Simply Fruit, then that's what's in there. If it said Simply Strawberry, then maybe.

                                                    (but unless there's pineapple or apple juice or something pectin-y in it, it's not going to set very well)

                                                  2. free sample addict aka Tracy L Dec 15, 2011 10:58 PM

                                                    That slogan always makes me laugh. Schmucker is my mother's maiden name.

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                                                      gourmanda Dec 19, 2011 01:07 PM

                                                      The original family name was changed from Schmucker to Smoker to Smucker--don't know why. The slogan probably originates due to the fact that J. M. Smucker started selling cider and then apple butter, the containers of which he signed individually indicating the apple butter had his "stamp" of approval. Ergo, if he's willing to sign his name to it, it must be a quality product.

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