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Help me tweak my Black Forest Cake Trifle

DebinD Dec 8, 2011 07:45 AM

I'm making a black forest cake trifle for a Christmas Party -

I'm trying to make it easy for me to make and super yummy

So I'm making a super easy brown Velvet Bundt Cake

Whipped Cream

Stonewall Kitchen Cherry pie filling with kirsch

Chocolate Mousse (includes alcohol)

So my questions are

1) Should I make the whipped cream alcoholic too?
2) What alcohols should I use for the mousse and the whipped cream. I have some creme de cacao that will go along with the kirsch.

  1. hotoynoodle Dec 8, 2011 07:59 AM

    kirsch in the cherries will be plenty. alcohol in the cream may affect its integrity, so not necessary. it will hold up better without it. booze in the mousse may conflict or overpower the stuff in the cherries, so i'd forgo it.

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    1. re: hotoynoodle
      foodie06 Dec 8, 2011 08:03 AM

      If I was going to add anything I would use amaretto in the mousse and you could use that or almond extract in the whipped cream.

      1. re: foodie06
        DebinD Dec 8, 2011 08:09 AM

        Hmmm -interesting. I think that could be really interesting. Hmmm

      2. re: hotoynoodle
        DebinD Dec 8, 2011 08:08 AM

        I'm just worried that as a trifle you may not get some of everything in a serving and without the cherries there would be no kick.

        1. re: DebinD
          hotoynoodle Dec 8, 2011 08:58 AM

          then instead of a trifle bowl, put it in a flat casserole dish, like tiramisu.

          1. re: hotoynoodle
            DebinD Dec 8, 2011 09:53 AM

            Well now I'm actually thinking of getting those little chocolate desert cups and using those. But they can be quite expensive. I may try the casserole dish but that requires me to actually work at making it look nice. Thanks.

            1. re: DebinD
              hotoynoodle Dec 8, 2011 10:01 AM

              lol, all that has to look "nice" is the cream over the top. :)

              those chocolate cups are nice, but fussy to fill with a cake-based dessert.

              1. re: hotoynoodle
                DebinD Dec 8, 2011 10:21 AM

                Yeah I've not used the cups before. Hmmm.

              2. re: DebinD
                Hank Hanover Dec 8, 2011 11:16 AM

                Chocolate cups are easy enough but I wouldn't use those with a trifle. Maybe just a mousse garnished with a raspberry.

                If I wanted to make individual trifles, I would use champagne glasses. The biggest appeal to a trifle besides ease in making is it is pretty through clear glass.

                You can make a chocolate cup by painting 3 or 4 layers of chocolate onto the inside of a foil muffin liner, then peel the liner away.

                1. re: DebinD
                  chowser Dec 8, 2011 06:28 PM

                  I had something like that in a shot glass that was the perfect size, pretty, easy to serve and you got everything in one bite.

              3. re: DebinD
                Caitlin McGrath Dec 8, 2011 09:02 AM

                Use it to brush the cake, or sprinkle a bit over the cake as you layer it in the trifle bowl, and in the cherries. I'd just use the kirsch both places, and not introduce a competing flavor, or put it in the mousse.

            2. Hank Hanover Dec 8, 2011 08:26 AM

              The only thing I would caution you about is which cherry flavored liquor you are going to use. I used Kirschwasser 80 proof (40% alcohol) in my black forest truffles once. It was like lighter fluid. I ended up using DeKypers cherry brandy (18% alcohol). It actually tasted like cherries.

              If you insist on using another type of alcohol, Ameretto would, imo, probably be best.

              Another suggestion would be to consider vanilla mousse instead of whipped cream. It would be more hassle but even fancier. I would, also, sprinkle chopped walnuts of almonds in the trifle.

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              1. re: Hank Hanover
                DebinD Dec 8, 2011 08:31 AM

                Thanks. I think I have used Kirschwasser in the past -but let it age about a week or so in the cherries. I don't have that time this week so I'll be careful to watch the alcohol content.

                I was thinking of using vanilla vodka as the other alcohol.

                1. re: DebinD
                  hotoynoodle Dec 8, 2011 08:56 AM

                  most vanilla vodka tastes horrible. it's all chemical flavorings. please don't use that. i also don't understand why you'd put that in chocolate mousse?

                  1. re: hotoynoodle
                    foodie06 Dec 8, 2011 09:04 AM

                    Agree. You don't want the whole thing to either become so boozy tasting it will be overpowering or have a mish mash of too many flavors that won't be appetizing. The almond will highlight the flavor of the cherries. I would leave it at just adding 1 liqueur flavor to enhance not overpower.

                    1. re: foodie06
                      DebinD Dec 8, 2011 09:51 AM

                      Okay okay -i'm just kicking around ideas. My original thought was creme de cacao in the chocolate mousse.

              2. souschef Dec 8, 2011 09:08 AM

                This is not part of a usual Black Forest cake, but in a trifle I like to use pastry cream that has been lightened with whipping cream.

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                  juli5122 Dec 8, 2011 10:31 AM

                  Did you see Nigella's version ? Maybe it will give you ideas.


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                  1. re: juli5122
                    DebinD Dec 8, 2011 11:13 AM

                    Ohhh ideas indeed! thanks.

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