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Dec 6, 2011 12:32 PM


Looking for great Chinese at various budget levels from Chinese food experts who know the authentic cuisine (not the Americanized versions). I have had hits or misses in NY taking CHinese friends to dinner. Some hits:

A Fan Ti: Flushing muslim chinese restaurant with great lamb dishes.

Evergreen; Low cost Flushing Shanghaineses with okay xiao lung bao.

Duen Chen: Flushing seafood restaurant Cantonese style.

Looking for something really great. Lau has a great blog for this and has some great picks, but I need something to take about 20 people that is a bit upscale.

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  1. For Cantonese seafood in Manhattan, Oriental Garden is probably the best / most refined. Also the priciest. Fuleen on the other side of Bowery is also excellent, though 20 people might be stretching it. You'd have to call and ask.

    Ping's has been great of late, and though the menu does have some "fusiony" dishes on it they're not Americanized - but he does embrace Thai and other influences here and there. That aside, there's quite a lot on the menu that's straight-up traditional as well. They're the biggest place that comes to mind, so for a party of 20 it wouldn't be an issue. He has locations in both Manhattan and Flushing.

    South China Garden is a bit cheaper than the three above, and not quite as refined - but they're pretty delicious. I prefer them for poultry & meat dishes, the others for seafood.

    In Brooklyn, there's Pacificana and few other places in Sunset Park.

    That aside, for more Flushing recommendations you probably should post on the Outer Boroughs board.

    South China Garden
    22 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

    11 Division St, New York, NY 10002

    Oriental Garden
    14 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

    22 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

    3 Replies
    1. re: sgordon

      Would "foodie" Cantonese people love these, or would they think it's too Americanized, or not Cantonese enough?

      1. re: foodlovergeneral

        None of the restaurants mentioned would be considered Americanized. All except Oriental Garden would fail the "bit upscale" test. That's the way it is

        1. re: Chandavkl

          Pacificana could be called a bit upscale in these circumstances

    2. Hunan Manor and Mapo Tofu in Murray Hill and right across the street from one another. Clients are 99% Asian.

      Mapo Tofu
      338 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10016

      Hunan Manor
      339 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10016

      1. Oriental Garden is certainly a safe bet, though 20 will be large group for them. I was disappointed in Fuleen, especially the ambience (definite presence of Gangs). What about a private room in Congee Village? Or Imperial Garden in Flushing? Mulan is too fusion for my taste, but the Hong Kong people I know love it, and it is fancier than most.

        1. Chinatown/Cantonese:
          Ah-Ping Snack Bar:

          Amazing 66:

          Fried Dumplings:

          East Corner Wonton:

          Fuleen Seafood

          Great New York Noodletown:

          Mei Li Wah:

          Noodle Village:

          Oriental Garden:

          Ping’s Seafood:

          South China Garden:

          Dim Sum:
          Dim Sum Go Go:

          Red Egg:

          Fujian operated Homemade, Hand-Pulled Noodle spots:

          Best Fuzhou Restaurants: (Note the Best Fuzhou one on Forsyth Street has changed hands and is a small Fuzhou style buffet place

          Double Dragon:

          Henan Flavor:

          Famous Sichuan:

          Old Sichuan:

          Shanghainese in Chinatown:


          Shanghai Café Deluxe

          Xian Famous Foods:

          Big Wong King at 67 Mott Street, 10013.
          Yogee Restaurant at 85 Chrystie Street, 10002.
          Yummy Noodles at 44 Bowery, 10013.

          South China Garden
          22 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

          Great New York Noodletown
          28 Bowery, New York, NY 10013

          Amazing 66
          66 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

          Best Fuzhou
          71 Eldridge St, New York, NY 10002

          Big Wong
          67 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

          Dim Sum Go Go
          5 E Broadway, New York, NY 10038

          11 Division St, New York, NY 10002

          Shanghai Cafe
          100 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

          Noodle Village
          13 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

          85 Chrystie St, New York, NY 10002

          Yummy Noodles
          48 Bowery, New York, NY 10013

          Oriental Garden
          14 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

          22 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

          East Corner Wonton
          70 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

          Double Dragon
          13 Eldridge St, New York, NY 10002

          Ah Ping Snack Bar
          2 E Broadway, New York, NY 10038

          Red Egg
          202 Centre Street, New York, NY 10013

          Famous Sichuan
          10 Pell St, New York, NY 10013

          Xi'an Famous Foods
          81 St. Marks Pl, New York, NY 10003

          Xi'an Famous Foods
          88 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

          Old Sichuan
          65 Bayard St, New York, NY 10013

          456 Shanghai Cuisine
          69 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

          He Nan Flavor
          68 Forsyth St, New York, NY 10002

          Mei Li Wah
          64 Bayard St, New York, NY 10013

          Xi'an Famous Foods
          67 Bayard St, New York, NY 10013

          9 Replies
          1. re: scoopG

            Has anyone been to M&T Qindao in flushing? Anyone who can vouch for it's Chineseness?

              1. re: Chandavkl

                Thanks. Is it appealing for Chinese eaters?

                1. re: foodlovergeneral

                  If you are planing to bring 20 people to M&T, I suggest you call them in advance: this is a small, family restaurant, and by no means upscale.

              2. re: scoopG

                Dear scoopG-Would you be able to provide a little color on some of these choices?

                1. re: foodlovergeneral

                  Hi foodlovergeneral! It really depends on the Chinese people you are taking and where they are from. Folks generally think the food from their own province is tops and food not from their province is sub-par or you name it: not as fresh, not as good as home, too spicy, too salty, not salty enough, not spicy enough, too much vinegar, too much sugar...it can go on and on. M&T is not fancy but a group of 20 could take over the place and have a great time.

                  1. re: scoopG

                    Thanks. I think you have described it extremely accurately from what I can tell.

                    1. re: foodlovergeneral

                      Cantonese eaters are the most provincial. Many of my Cantonese (actually Toishanese) relatives and friends wouldn't be caught dead in a non-Cantonese restaurant. One poster on the L.A. board mentioned that some Cantonese categorize bell peppers as spicy food. You would never take somebody like that to a non-Cantonese restaurant.