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foodlovergeneral Dec 6, 2011 12:32 PM

Looking for great Chinese at various budget levels from Chinese food experts who know the authentic cuisine (not the Americanized versions). I have had hits or misses in NY taking CHinese friends to dinner. Some hits:

A Fan Ti: Flushing muslim chinese restaurant with great lamb dishes.

Evergreen; Low cost Flushing Shanghaineses with okay xiao lung bao.

Duen Chen: Flushing seafood restaurant Cantonese style.

Looking for something really great. Lau has a great blog for this and has some great picks, but I need something to take about 20 people that is a bit upscale.

  1. scoopG Dec 8, 2011 06:42 AM

    Chinatown/Cantonese:
    Ah-Ping Snack Bar:
    http://www.chow.com/digest/7568/in-chinatown-fujianese-soul-with-a-subtle-hand/

    Amazing 66:

    Fried Dumplings:
    http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2011/02/the-best-fried-dumplings-in-chinatown-nyc-new-york-manhattan-potstickers-chinese.html

    East Corner Wonton:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/611302?tag=boards;topic-611302

    Fuleen Seafood
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/816585

    Great New York Noodletown:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/678367

    Mei Li Wah:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/605528

    Noodle Village:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/493604

    Oriental Garden:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/764593

    Ping’s Seafood:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/805766

    South China Garden:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/679270
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/750220

    Dim Sum:
    Dim Sum Go Go:
    http://nymag.com/listings/restaurant/dim-sum-gogo/

    Red Egg:
    http://www.chow.com/manhattan_digest/6625?tag=search_results;results_list
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/610102?tag=main_body;topic-610102
    http://www.redeggnyc.com/

    Fujian operated Homemade, Hand-Pulled Noodle spots:
    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/492376
    http://www.chowhound.com/topics/504362

    Fujian:
    Best Fuzhou Restaurants: (Note the Best Fuzhou one on Forsyth Street has changed hands and is a small Fuzhou style buffet place
    )http://www.chowhound.com/topics/483902

    Double Dragon:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/714304

    Henan:
    Henan Flavor:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/774685

    Sichuan:
    Famous Sichuan:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/753398

    Old Sichuan:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/742493?tag=search_results;results_list#6143259
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/753976

    Shanghainese in Chinatown:

    456:
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/770707

    Shanghai Café Deluxe
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/769840
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/704166
    http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/583263

    Xian
    Xian Famous Foods:
    http://www.xianfoods.com/

    Others:
    Big Wong King at 67 Mott Street, 10013.
    Yogee Restaurant at 85 Chrystie Street, 10002.
    Yummy Noodles at 44 Bowery, 10013.

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    South China Garden
    22 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

    Great New York Noodletown
    28 Bowery, New York, NY 10013

    Amazing 66
    66 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

    Best Fuzhou
    71 Eldridge St, New York, NY 10002

    Big Wong
    67 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

    Dim Sum Go Go
    5 E Broadway, New York, NY 10038

    Fuleen
    11 Division St, New York, NY 10002

    Shanghai Cafe
    100 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

    Noodle Village
    13 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

    Yogee
    85 Chrystie St, New York, NY 10002

    Yummy Noodles
    48 Bowery, New York, NY 10013

    Oriental Garden
    14 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

    Ping's
    22 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

    East Corner Wonton
    70 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

    Double Dragon
    13 Eldridge St, New York, NY 10002

    Ah Ping Snack Bar
    2 E Broadway, New York, NY 10038

    Red Egg
    202 Centre Street, New York, NY 10013

    Famous Sichuan
    10 Pell St, New York, NY 10013

    Xi'an Famous Foods
    81 St. Marks Pl, New York, NY 10003

    Xi'an Famous Foods
    88 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

    Old Sichuan
    65 Bayard St, New York, NY 10013

    456 Shanghai Cuisine
    69 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

    He Nan Flavor
    68 Forsyth St, New York, NY 10002

    Mei Li Wah
    64 Bayard St, New York, NY 10013

    Xi'an Famous Foods
    67 Bayard St, New York, NY 10013

    9 Replies
    1. re: scoopG
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      foodlovergeneral Dec 23, 2011 05:52 PM

      Has anyone been to M&T Qindao in flushing? Anyone who can vouch for it's Chineseness?

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        Chandavkl Dec 23, 2011 06:08 PM

        Well discussed on the Outer Boroughs board. Here's one thread:

        http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/678000

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          foodlovergeneral Dec 23, 2011 07:09 PM

          Thanks. Is it appealing for Chinese eaters?

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            diprey11 Dec 23, 2011 09:23 PM

            If you are planing to bring 20 people to M&T, I suggest you call them in advance: this is a small, family restaurant, and by no means upscale.

          2. re: Chandavkl
            scoopG Dec 24, 2011 04:58 AM

            More recent reports here on M&T:
            http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/640474

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          foodlovergeneral Dec 23, 2011 06:08 PM

          Dear scoopG-Would you be able to provide a little color on some of these choices?

          1. re: foodlovergeneral
            scoopG Dec 24, 2011 05:09 AM

            Hi foodlovergeneral! It really depends on the Chinese people you are taking and where they are from. Folks generally think the food from their own province is tops and food not from their province is sub-par or you name it: not as fresh, not as good as home, too spicy, too salty, not salty enough, not spicy enough, too much vinegar, too much sugar...it can go on and on. M&T is not fancy but a group of 20 could take over the place and have a great time.

            1. re: scoopG
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              foodlovergeneral Dec 24, 2011 05:33 AM

              Thanks. I think you have described it extremely accurately from what I can tell.

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                Chandavkl Dec 24, 2011 08:24 AM

                Cantonese eaters are the most provincial. Many of my Cantonese (actually Toishanese) relatives and friends wouldn't be caught dead in a non-Cantonese restaurant. One poster on the L.A. board mentioned that some Cantonese categorize bell peppers as spicy food. You would never take somebody like that to a non-Cantonese restaurant.

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          swannee Dec 7, 2011 12:28 PM

          Oriental Garden is certainly a safe bet, though 20 will be large group for them. I was disappointed in Fuleen, especially the ambience (definite presence of Gangs). What about a private room in Congee Village? Or Imperial Garden in Flushing? Mulan is too fusion for my taste, but the Hong Kong people I know love it, and it is fancier than most.

          1. Motosport Dec 7, 2011 07:27 AM

            Hunan Manor and Mapo Tofu in Murray Hill and right across the street from one another. Clients are 99% Asian.

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            Mapo Tofu
            338 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10016

            Hunan Manor
            339 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10016

            1. sgordon Dec 6, 2011 12:52 PM

              For Cantonese seafood in Manhattan, Oriental Garden is probably the best / most refined. Also the priciest. Fuleen on the other side of Bowery is also excellent, though 20 people might be stretching it. You'd have to call and ask.

              Ping's has been great of late, and though the menu does have some "fusiony" dishes on it they're not Americanized - but he does embrace Thai and other influences here and there. That aside, there's quite a lot on the menu that's straight-up traditional as well. They're the biggest place that comes to mind, so for a party of 20 it wouldn't be an issue. He has locations in both Manhattan and Flushing.

              South China Garden is a bit cheaper than the three above, and not quite as refined - but they're pretty delicious. I prefer them for poultry & meat dishes, the others for seafood.

              In Brooklyn, there's Pacificana and few other places in Sunset Park.

              That aside, for more Flushing recommendations you probably should post on the Outer Boroughs board.

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              South China Garden
              22 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

              Fuleen
              11 Division St, New York, NY 10002

              Oriental Garden
              14 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

              Ping's
              22 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

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              1. re: sgordon
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                foodlovergeneral Dec 6, 2011 02:09 PM

                Would "foodie" Cantonese people love these, or would they think it's too Americanized, or not Cantonese enough?

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                  Chandavkl Dec 6, 2011 04:43 PM

                  None of the restaurants mentioned would be considered Americanized. All except Oriental Garden would fail the "bit upscale" test. That's the way it is

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                    AubWah Dec 6, 2011 05:42 PM

                    Pacificana could be called a bit upscale in these circumstances

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