AUTHENTIC CHINESE NY AND OUTER BOROUGHS: GOOD QUALITY

[foodlovergeneral]

Looking for great Chinese at various budget levels from Chinese food experts who know the authentic cuisine (not the Americanized versions). I have had hits or misses in NY taking CHinese friends to dinner. Some hits:

A Fan Ti: Flushing muslim chinese restaurant with great lamb dishes.

Evergreen; Low cost Flushing Shanghaineses with okay xiao lung bao.

Duen Chen: Flushing seafood restaurant Cantonese style.

Looking for something really great. Lau has a great blog for this and has some great picks, but I need something to take about 20 people that is a bit upscale.

[scoopG]

Chinatown/Cantonese:
Ah-Ping Snack Bar:
http://www.chow.com/digest/7568/in-chinatown-fujianese-soul-with-a-subtle-hand/

Amazing 66:

Fried Dumplings:
http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2011/02/the-best-fried-dumplings-in-chinatown-nyc-new-york-manhattan-potstickers-chinese.html

East Corner Wonton:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/611302?tag=boards;topic-611302

Fuleen Seafood
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/816585

Great New York Noodletown:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/678367

Mei Li Wah:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/605528

Noodle Village:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/493604

Oriental Garden:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/764593

Ping’s Seafood:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/805766

South China Garden:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/679270
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/750220

Dim Sum:
Dim Sum Go Go:
http://nymag.com/listings/restaurant/dim-sum-gogo/

Red Egg:
http://www.chow.com/manhattan_digest/6625?tag=search_results;results_list
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/610102?tag=main_body;topic-610102
http://www.redeggnyc.com/

Fujian operated Homemade, Hand-Pulled Noodle spots:
http://www.chowhound.com/topics/492376
http://www.chowhound.com/topics/504362

Fujian:
Best Fuzhou Restaurants: (Note the Best Fuzhou one on Forsyth Street has changed hands and is a small Fuzhou style buffet place
)http://www.chowhound.com/topics/483902

Double Dragon:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/714304

Henan:
Henan Flavor:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/774685

Sichuan:
Famous Sichuan:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/753398

Old Sichuan:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/742493?tag=search_results;results_list#6143259
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/753976

Shanghainese in Chinatown:

456:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/770707

Shanghai Café Deluxe
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/769840
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/704166
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/583263

Xian
Xian Famous Foods:
http://www.xianfoods.com/

Others:
Big Wong King at 67 Mott Street, 10013.
Yogee Restaurant at 85 Chrystie Street, 10002.
Yummy Noodles at 44 Bowery, 10013.

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South China Garden
22 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

Great New York Noodletown
28 Bowery, New York, NY 10013

Amazing 66
66 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

Best Fuzhou
71 Eldridge St, New York, NY 10002

Big Wong
67 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

Dim Sum Go Go
5 E Broadway, New York, NY 10038

Fuleen
11 Division St, New York, NY 10002

Shanghai Cafe
100 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

Noodle Village
13 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

Yogee
85 Chrystie St, New York, NY 10002

Yummy Noodles
48 Bowery, New York, NY 10013

Oriental Garden
14 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

Ping's
22 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

East Corner Wonton
70 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

Double Dragon
13 Eldridge St, New York, NY 10002

Ah Ping Snack Bar
2 E Broadway, New York, NY 10038

Red Egg
202 Centre Street, New York, NY 10013

Famous Sichuan
10 Pell St, New York, NY 10013

Xi'an Famous Foods
81 St. Marks Pl, New York, NY 10003

Xi'an Famous Foods
88 E Broadway, New York, NY 10002

Old Sichuan
65 Bayard St, New York, NY 10013

456 Shanghai Cuisine
69 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

He Nan Flavor
68 Forsyth St, New York, NY 10002

Mei Li Wah
64 Bayard St, New York, NY 10013

Xi'an Famous Foods
67 Bayard St, New York, NY 10013

[foodlovergeneral]

Has anyone been to M&T Qindao in flushing? Anyone who can vouch for it's Chineseness?

[Chandavkl]

Well discussed on the Outer Boroughs board. Here's one thread:

http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/678000

[foodlovergeneral]

Thanks. Is it appealing for Chinese eaters?

[diprey11]

If you are planing to bring 20 people to M&T, I suggest you call them in advance: this is a small, family restaurant, and by no means upscale.

[scoopG]

More recent reports here on M&T:
http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/640474

[foodlovergeneral]

Dear scoopG-Would you be able to provide a little color on some of these choices?

[scoopG]

Hi foodlovergeneral! It really depends on the Chinese people you are taking and where they are from. Folks generally think the food from their own province is tops and food not from their province is sub-par or you name it: not as fresh, not as good as home, too spicy, too salty, not salty enough, not spicy enough, too much vinegar, too much sugar...it can go on and on. M&T is not fancy but a group of 20 could take over the place and have a great time.

[foodlovergeneral]

Thanks. I think you have described it extremely accurately from what I can tell.

[Chandavkl]

Cantonese eaters are the most provincial. Many of my Cantonese (actually Toishanese) relatives and friends wouldn't be caught dead in a non-Cantonese restaurant. One poster on the L.A. board mentioned that some Cantonese categorize bell peppers as spicy food. You would never take somebody like that to a non-Cantonese restaurant.

[swannee]

Oriental Garden is certainly a safe bet, though 20 will be large group for them. I was disappointed in Fuleen, especially the ambience (definite presence of Gangs). What about a private room in Congee Village? Or Imperial Garden in Flushing? Mulan is too fusion for my taste, but the Hong Kong people I know love it, and it is fancier than most.

[Motosport]

Hunan Manor and Mapo Tofu in Murray Hill and right across the street from one another. Clients are 99% Asian.

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Mapo Tofu
338 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10016

Hunan Manor
339 Lexington Ave, New York, NY 10016

[sgordon]

For Cantonese seafood in Manhattan, Oriental Garden is probably the best / most refined. Also the priciest. Fuleen on the other side of Bowery is also excellent, though 20 people might be stretching it. You'd have to call and ask.

Ping's has been great of late, and though the menu does have some "fusiony" dishes on it they're not Americanized - but he does embrace Thai and other influences here and there. That aside, there's quite a lot on the menu that's straight-up traditional as well. They're the biggest place that comes to mind, so for a party of 20 it wouldn't be an issue. He has locations in both Manhattan and Flushing.

South China Garden is a bit cheaper than the three above, and not quite as refined - but they're pretty delicious. I prefer them for poultry & meat dishes, the others for seafood.

In Brooklyn, there's Pacificana and few other places in Sunset Park.

That aside, for more Flushing recommendations you probably should post on the Outer Boroughs board.

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South China Garden
22 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

Fuleen
11 Division St, New York, NY 10002

Oriental Garden
14 Elizabeth St, New York, NY 10013

Ping's
22 Mott St, New York, NY 10013

[foodlovergeneral]

Would "foodie" Cantonese people love these, or would they think it's too Americanized, or not Cantonese enough?

[Chandavkl]

None of the restaurants mentioned would be considered Americanized. All except Oriental Garden would fail the "bit upscale" test. That's the way it is

[AubWah]

Pacificana could be called a bit upscale in these circumstances