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help - need a new range pronto

My lovely magic chef contractors special range that was here when we moved in stopped working this morning - the oven is no longer working so instead of repairing it (oven was always temperamental) we are going to go for it and get a range that I might actually like and not have to look inside each time at the thermometer to figure out what it is and keep fiddling with the dial to get it to the right temp ;)

It would be a 30" range - and I am lost! We looked at a few ranges years ago, but there is so much more on the market I thought some of you can chime in.

We currently have a gas hookup and I *think* I would prefer having gas plus electric oven, but that is not a show stopper. The budget is probably around 2.5K and I don't need anything truly professional, but I do a lot of baking and cooking and I would like to have a larger oven capacity. Some of the "pro" models I saw a while back seemed to have smaller oven spaces. The only pro oven I seemed to like was the American Range, but that was a few thousand out of my price range.

The GE cafe and Jenn Air are coming up as being something that might work.

Any ideas of where to start or other sites that might be helpful, brands to stay away from?

Thanks!

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  1. (I know you will get other opinions).

    I have a GE gas- continuous grates on top, five burners, gas oven, pretty much like this:

    http://products.geappliances.com/Appl...

    Bought this after being "burned" (figuratively) on my last 2 electrics. Last electric cost $1100 and lasted 13 months- just out of warranty. The electronic control panel went bad and burned up the entire thing.

    I had a propane line run (already had a propane fireplace). Can't believe I actually cooked on electric for all those years.

    I have no complaints on this range, about 2 years down the road.

    BTW "gourmet" ranges like Wolf, Blue Star, etc, were not in the picture due to cost. I also cannot install a really great vented hood due to the limitations of my house, so hugely powerful burners were also out of the question.

    1. We've been waiting now for about 2 years for our old (20 yrs) GE Profile range to finally die in order to buy the GE Cafe gas/electric convection range. We've looked at all of them over the course of the last 2 years and agree that the GE has a larger oven than the "pro" models. The Cafe has everything we want from a range though a burner with a little more BTU's would be nice but truthfully, not necessary. It sounds like the range for you and if you can wait for a sale it will surely fall into your range (sorry for the pun). Good luck.

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      1. re: jnk

        Our electric outlet is 110 and it needs to be 220 for the electric/gas model - anyone know approx how much that conversion would cost? The dual option is about 450 more than the all gas, so if it is an expensive conversion might end up looking at gas only.

        Thanks in advance!

        1. re: morrang

          If the electrician can join two 110 lines that are near, around two to three hundred.
          If he has to start at the box, add a 220 (double) circuit, and wire to your kitchen-you will need a quote. I think a typical quote would be about five hundred or so at the very least. If it is an easy run, through a crawl space for example, closer to five hundred. If you have an older house and the panel has no room for expansion....... just stick with gas only.

      2. If I had my druthers, I'd own a nice gas cooktop and an electric, self-cleaning convection oven. If I could them both in one unit, and that's what I needed, that's what I would get, assuming I could afford it.

        When I have had to replace appliances, I've gone to local appliance stores and picked the brains of the sales people. I've gone several places to compare my perceptions and the lines they carry. I visit several stores. I've had the best luck in general with local businesses. Ask a million questions, and do research online. Get a copy of the Consumer's Report buying guide for an orientation, and descriptions and rankings.

        Ask your friends about their stoves, especially if they have purchased one recently.

        I can't give you specific advice about stoves, because I haven't bought on in over 10 years. But good luck. If you do your research first, you stand a good chance of getting what you want.

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        1. re: sueatmo

          Thanks all! I will be visiting two places weekend - I just wanted to have an idea of what was out there and look at the info before hand to might work to find out where which places carried them and know before hand some info. I just got the consumer reports info, so looking at that tonight. We are happy with an appliance store we used in the past and they have a larger showroom .

          When googling and searching on here for GE cafe the bertazzoni range seemed to come up a lot and for the plain color would probably be in our budget. They have it at the store we are going to - any opinions? I could not find the oven capacity, so it might not be something I would even consider once I see it in person.

          1. re: morrang

            Keep us posted on your choice. Good luck.

        2. Hello,

          While I don't have this range, a company called Five Star manufactures a dual fuel series. The link below may be useful and aid in your decision making since it offers an electric oven with a gas cooktop.
          http://www.fivestarrange.com

          1. I looked through ebay looking for a deal on a 30" range. This is what I came up with.

            The Capital Precision 30" Natural Gas Range.It is a very nice range.

            Normally $3900 + tax.

            Here it is $2850 delivered to your door.
            http://www.ebay.com/itm/Capital-GCR30...

            The oven cavity's height is usually irrelevant becuase most are not able to bake three racks evenly. You are usually just wasting time and energy heating up empty space. I think the Cafe and JA fall under this category.It would be a different story if you were shopping in the Wolf Dual-Fuel category.

            GE Cafe Oven Cavity 24" W x 20" D x 17.5"H
            Capital Oven Cavity 24" Wx 21" D x 14H

            In real world cooking that extra 1"depth is more usefull than extra 3.5" of height.

            Plus true European convection. Makes the heat just about as even as you will find in this price class.

            Only some European oven's are so small that that a large turkey would be a problem.

            If a 30" oven is large enough to hold a full size commercial baking sheet then there is a lack of insulation.The door can get hot.

            Plus the 19k btu burners on the Capital are about as good as it gets in this price range.

            Can also hold 140 degree simmer.

            Good Luck.

            1. About 2 years ago we bought a Fridgidaire Professional range/oven - gas top with 4 different size burners and electric combination regular/convection oven. Have been very happy with it. Can't remember the exact price (I think around $1400), but much less than the higher end ranges like Viking.

              1. I've had twojenn-Airs, mainly because this kitchen was originally designed for down draft ventilation. First JA was duel fuel; second is all gas though the oven is still self-cleaning w/convection option. I like it a lot. (It has a very large oven). I have a second range (duel fuel baby Aga w/very small ovens but fantastic burners). ATC, I like duel-fuel better so if I were in your shoes, I'd probably go for one of the duel fuel models w/large oven. Both my SIL and a good friend (both serious cooks) love their GE Profile ranges.

                1. We converted a few years ago to the gas range/electric oven option. The appliance dealer recommended Kitchen Aid. I've been very happy with the range, but the oven door can be a bit cranky: we've replaced a hinge (under warranty, fortunately) and had it adjusted a couple of times to get a better/tighter seal; also had to put in a new sensor/thermostat. Knowing all this now, I think I'd look at something else.

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                  1. re: tlackner

                    So I went range shopping this weekend and the only one that I really liked that was in our price range was the GE cafe, so I think that part is solved - but then we go stuck again. My husband pulled out the stove just to make sure everything looked connected in our current one just to give it one last try, we noticed that the tile behind the stove does not go all the way down, or even across - which we were not expecting. So now we need to figure out the following

                    - get a new hood (it has to be re-circulating) and then redo the backspash area or have stailess steel sheet put up behind it since we will have to do something with the tilework.

                    - get the GE over the range microwave to free up some counterspace. They have a good deal on the microwave, and there is a $100 rebate if you buy two cafe appliances -- so it is something we are considering.

                    - keep current hood (which was also a contractors special and does not work that great) and replace that at a later point

                    Thoughts? Any options you think would be better for resale? Our origianl plan if we stay here was to o do the kitche in two years (change out countertops , sink, range, hood (possible vented) and add on a new cabinet for baking storage and a bilt in mocrowave)

                    Thank you all for your input so far - I need to get the order placed on Wednesday so I can have it in time for a few get together we will be having here!

                    1. re: morrang

                      Ordinarily l would never vote for an over the range microwave, preferring an actual range hood that vents to the outside. However in your case, with no duct work run apparently, the micro/range hood might be the best solution, short of a larger remodel. You might check to see if the filter needs to be changed in the old range hood. (I can't remember exactly how that setup works, but isn't there a filter in it that has to be replaced or cleaned?) If you cleaned up the filter with a good degreaser, it might work a little better. So that might be a consideration if you want to eventually replace it with real vent and hood.

                      What a rotten trick to only tile part of the area above the stove. If the tile is a standard size and color, you might be able to add tile to what is already there, or if you feel you can do this, you could replace it all. Taking off tile is dog's work, but you might end up with a nice, functional wall area behind the stove.

                      I think the easiest solution is to go with the Micro/range hood combo.

                      Keep us posted.

                      1. re: sueatmo

                        Good news is - the appliance store we are working with is able to have the contractor stop up and take a look today or tomorrow - they said they have seen that happen before with tile work, so I guess it is something that gets done instead of ordering another box of tiles.

                        One thing they mentioned was maybe putting up an entry grade zephyr brand hood - so it would be a better self circulating one, not as expensive as a kobe (which is the one they said they recommend if you get a pro stove with self-circulation) so I am going to google a little more, and have some of the specs for those printed for when the contractor stops by.

                        I taped up some cardboard boxes to the cabinets above the range to get a sense of what it will be like with the microwave there...and I don't think I am going to like it. I like that it now more open, I think the microwave will get hot ( it would meet the installation specs) and the mirowave is not getting that good of online reviews. I checked out my moms micro over her range and her's is 3 1/2 inches higher than that this would be - and I think that will make a difference.

                        I replaced the filters in the current hood a few times, but it does not make much of a difference. It is 20 years old and I can't imagine it was a good one. The former owners went with bare minimum appliances in the kitchen since neither of them cooked. lso, thecolor of the current one will now stand out - so it makes sense to change it to something while figuring out the tile issue.

                        1. re: morrang

                          Ah, the pleasure of home maintenance! You guys are doing fine. You will figure this out.

                          1. re: sueatmo

                            so we ended up putting up the tiles and went with the ge cafe and a broan hood - the zephyr dimensions were a little large after we speced it out.

                            So far in love with both. The hood actually sucks the steam up, and the halogen light is nice. The range boils water in no time - I can get pasta done in half the time. I made beef short ribs tonight and it kept them at a perfect low simmer.

                            We will be making holiday cookies tomorrow - can't wait!

                            1. re: morrang

                              Congrats on a job well done. I hope you have many hours of enjoyment using your new stove.

                              1. re: morrang

                                I also have a GE Cafe all-gas range + a Broan range hood. Got both last December & I love both!! Just ordered new filters for my range hood today. I'm really glad I went the the Cafe range....hope you like yours as much!!

                                I also had to do the same thing as you with the tiles.....I had done the backsplash myself & had tile leftover which was good!