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New Oakland food truck spot - Grand Ave

selectiveomnivore Dec 5, 2011 01:54 PM

They're testing out a new lunch spot for food trucks in Oakland at 150 Grand (between Harrison and Webster). There is a set line up for the next two weeks:

Monday, 12/5 Curry Up Now
Tuesday, 12/6 Rib Whip
Wednesday Pending
Thursday, 12/8 Seoul on Wheels
Friday, 12/9 Chairman (formerly Chairman Bao)

Monday, 12/12 Curry Up Now
Tuesday, 12/13 Roli Roti
Wednesday, 12/14 Hapa SF
Thursday, 12/15 Seoul on Wheels
Friday, 12/16 Chairman (formerly Chairman Bao)

Check it out. If there's enough traffic and business, it could become a regular thing.

  1. singleguychef Feb 21, 2012 12:47 PM

    Several food trucks are now operating under the banner "Eat it Forward" and they're promoting their spots under the facebook page www.facebook.com/eatitforward and on twitter at twitter.com/eatitfwd

    They have several spots planned around Uptown, and looks like the first spot is 15th and Harrison. (They have plans for Broadway and 21st and 23rd, but we'll see how that goes since it was so close to the 21st and Webster pod that got closed down.)

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      abstractpoet Feb 15, 2012 01:17 PM

      Is there a consolidated Twitter or Facebook for the 150 Grand spot? About 70% of the times I try to go (Wednesdays or Fridays usually, but sometimes other days too), there's no truck.

      Some of the individual vendors are different from what's listed at the top of the thread. Vespa Flatbreads was there once (was OK, but not a great value), and I believe Streatery (one of my favorites) has gotten into the rotation in the aftermath of 21Web being shut down. I don't think Chairman comes to this spot at all anymore.

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      1. re: abstractpoet
        moto Feb 16, 2012 01:23 AM

        that parking lot at 150 Grand was merely a parking lot at noon on valentine's day. foot traffic in that corner of Grand Ave is considerably lighter than a few blocks further west or south, so if trucks don't show up predictably and depend on random business, they might only stop there when they literally have no place better and nothing booked.

      2. arktos Feb 14, 2012 06:33 PM

        How come it's not called 'Chairman Bao' anymore?? I sorta liked that. Was there a trademark violation?

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        1. re: arktos
          drewskiSF Feb 14, 2012 10:36 PM

          yes. they were sued by a place in NYC that had an item on their menu called Chairman Bao that was trademarked


          pretty lame (imo) since they're in different parts of the country and not competitors.

          1. re: drewskiSF
            shanghaikid Feb 14, 2012 10:56 PM

            lame maybe but trademarks are protected nationwide, not regionally. look at mcdonalds and other big companies. they sue at the hint of a Mc.....or ....R us.

            1. re: shanghaikid
              Bigshadetree Feb 15, 2012 06:31 AM

              I think that is the same thing that happened to Fat Apples - they were original called Fat Albert's

              1. re: Bigshadetree
                shanghaikid Feb 16, 2012 03:39 PM

                they lucked out. fat apples is a more marketable name, not tied to any food genre,

                1. re: Bigshadetree
                  wolfe Feb 16, 2012 03:51 PM

                  Previous post.
                  My favorites are when La Grenouille in New York was afraid that people would confuse the one in Oakland as a branch and when Fat Albert's became an Apple. Fortunately the Beatles and Steve Jobs didn't object and Johnny Appleseed is dead.
                  wolfe on Dec 1, 2009 12:41 PM

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            limonata Jan 10, 2012 05:14 PM

            Had a porchetta sandwich from Roli Roti today. I got there on the later side, and there was no one else around. First time I didn't have to wait for this sandwich. They were very generous with all the components (a bit too generous with the rosemary salt in some bites). This is a really great sandwich. I had the porchetta sandwich from Fatted Calf the other day, and while good, it just doesn't compare. Maybe I just prefer the warm, thicker pieces of pork in the Roli Roti sandwich. The folks were dubious about continuing here every Tuesday given the low traffic.

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            1. re: limonata
              calalilly Feb 14, 2012 08:32 AM

              Does anyone know if Roli Roti is still around on Tuesdays?

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                calalilly Feb 14, 2012 01:55 PM

                Nope, it was empty =( I wonder if the other trucks still go on the other days or if there just wasn't enough traffic.

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                  Bigshadetree Feb 14, 2012 06:20 PM

                  Here is a link to an article in the East Bay Express saying the location was shut down by the City of Oakland.

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                    selectiveomnivore Feb 14, 2012 06:31 PM

                    that's a different location - that is 21st and Webster

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              TimBurg Jan 10, 2012 10:46 AM

              Is this still happening in 2012? C'mon, a guy that works in Uptown Oakland needs to know where to go.

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              1. re: TimBurg
                singleguychef Jan 10, 2012 11:13 AM

                The 21Web food truck pod at Webster and 21st got closed down by the city. Not sure if the Grand Avenue spot near Trueburger suffered the same fate. I know I went by last Friday to get some Chairman buns and it wasn't there. But it could be because it was the week of the holidays. Haven't checked this week.

                1. re: singleguychef
                  abstractpoet Jan 10, 2012 11:44 AM

                  I've been by the 150 Grand parking lot several times at lunchtime and have never seen a food truck there. It's probably too close to Trueburger for that to fly.

                  Dannvy, who runs Streatery at 21Web, is the one who rents that parking lot and sublets it out to the other trucks on the other days of the week. She told me that the city shut that spot down because the space is zoned for restaurant/cafe, and they categorize the trucks as fast food.

                  So she may try to get the proper permitting, but it would be an expensive process that'll probably take several months. Too bad. Never tried the other trucks at that spot, but always liked the food at Streatery and that location was convenient for me.

                  1. re: abstractpoet
                    bgbc Jan 10, 2012 01:07 PM

                    Chairman's Twitter feed doesn't seem to list any recent Oakland stops: https://twitter.com/#!/chairmantruck

                2. re: TimBurg
                  selectiveomnivore Jan 10, 2012 11:56 AM

                  Yes, it's still happening in 2012. A family member works in the office building there that's coordinating. Reportedly all the trucks are pleased with their numbers so far and intending to continue, although the Wednesdays will be every other Wednesday unless another truck comes in. The lot was empty over the holidays for most of a couple weeks though.

                  There will also be limited parking available in the lot - you won't get towed if you park next to the truck just while you wait for food.

                  You can always check Roaming Hunger (though not 100% accurate) or the individual trucks pages and twitter feeds to see if they will be there before you head over.

                  Also, there is an Ike's Lair opening right in Uptown, next to Plum. Should be a nice lunch addition to the neighborhood.

                  2214 Broadway, Oakland, CA 94612

                  Ike's Lair
                  2655 Broadway St, Redwood City, CA 94063

                  1. re: selectiveomnivore
                    singleguychef Jan 10, 2012 03:17 PM

                    Just a few yards from Ike's and Plum will also be the Oakland outpost for Umami Burger.

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                  limonata Dec 10, 2011 01:25 PM

                  Does anyone know if Roli Roti will do porchetta or be chicken only?

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                  1. re: limonata
                    calalilly Dec 13, 2011 12:36 PM

                    I made it to Roli Roti today and was not disappointed. They had only the porchetta and roasted potatoes, but it was so good. It's been a long time since I've had something I felt was worth the hype so it was a pleasant surprise. The porchetta sandwich had the perfect portion of pork skin, meat, spice from the arugula, sweetness from the carmelized onions and softness from the Acme bread. It's $9.50 for the sandwich, not cheap, but I ate the entire thing and now I'm stuffed.

                    I ordered the roasted potatoes too. They were good but not as extraordinary as the porchetta.

                    The guy said they will be there every Tuesday. Great addition to the neighborhood. There was no line today but it was so good I would actually wait in line if there was one and I never do that.

                  2. singleguychef Dec 7, 2011 10:29 AM

                    FYI, I didn't see any trucks on Grand on Tuesday (12/6). (The address given is right in front of Trueburger.) Not sure if this site is actually taking off. I'll keep checking, but doesn't seem that necessary given the nearby Web21 site.

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                    1. re: singleguychef
                      calalilly Dec 7, 2011 02:55 PM

                      Bummer. Thanks for the update. I was hoping to check out Chairman Bao on Friday.

                      1. re: singleguychef
                        selectiveomnivore Dec 7, 2011 02:59 PM

                        It is still happening. The Tuesday vendor didn't get thier Alameda permit/license in time. Rest of this week and next should be on as scheduled.

                        And yes, it is next to Trueburger. I think the truck will be in the parking lot each day, not on Grand.

                        1. re: singleguychef
                          shanghaikid Dec 7, 2011 08:01 PM

                          no doubt food trucks are wary of what happened at the oakland art murmur (12/2). all food trucks there were ticketed, cited, and must go to court cuz they didn't have a permit to operate in oakland.

                          1. re: shanghaikid
                            calalilly Dec 8, 2011 09:43 AM

                            Anyone know around what time they are there? I'm guessing around 11-1?

                            1. re: calalilly
                              shanghaikid Dec 8, 2011 03:11 PM

                              the usual time is 11:30-1:45
                              individual trucks take different times to "set up".

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                                majordanby Dec 8, 2011 03:43 PM

                                has it been pretty busy this week? im planning to go this mon to get some curry up now, but i need it to be in and out due to time constraints.

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                                  shanghaikid Dec 8, 2011 04:33 PM

                                  don't know. usually drive by late and see no lines. problem in this area is the lack of parking, metered as well.

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                                    calalilly Dec 9, 2011 12:54 PM

                                    I went today around 11:45 and there were about 5 people there. This was my first time at Chairman Bao so I brought a co-worker so we could try a few things. We ordered:

                                    - Pork Belly steamed bun

                                    - Braised Pork steamed bun

                                    - Spicy Chicken steamed bun

                                    They were all good, but to be honest, not worth the hype or price ($10.75 total). The braised pork was both of our favorites. It's a fun play on the traditional Chinese pork and preserved cabbage.

                                    Overall, I'm glad I tried it but don't think I would go back.

                                    Now I'm looking forward to Roli Roti next week. Haven't tried it either so hope it's good!

                                    I noticed quite a few people arriving as we were leaving so maybe it gets busier around noon.

                                    1. re: calalilly
                                      moto Dec 9, 2011 09:23 PM

                                      the difference in volume/quantity between the steamed and baked bao is substantial. the duck confit w. steamed bread was tapas-sized, and for 4.50 does not compare well in quantity/calories with the 3 tacos one can find at any taco truck for that coin, though it was quite tasty and not fatty at all. on the other hand, the baked bao version w. pork belly for 6.00 was as hefty as most burgers at that price and a good value for the quality.

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                                    singleguychef Dec 12, 2011 04:06 PM

                                    Walked by Curry Up Now today on the early side (11:30 a.m.) and it was totally empty. Last Friday when The Chairman truck was parked there, it wasn't a very long line. The only warning is that because it's surrounded by office buildings, several people come with orders for their co-workers. So you might see one person in front of you, but he or she might have orders for a dozen buns. Then you have to wait. I saw people walking away with boxes or bags filled with cartons to take back to the office.

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                            shanghaikid Dec 5, 2011 02:31 PM

                            no free parking around there.
                            meter maids will feast on the cars with expiring meters.
                            curry up now and the roli roti sammie interests me.

                            looks like this will compete with the web21 food trucks a few blocks away.

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                            1. re: shanghaikid
                              singleguychef Dec 5, 2011 03:58 PM

                              A few blocks? Sounds like it's just two blocks from web21. I'm interested in some of these trucks like Curry Up Now and The Chairman. Just as long as the lines don't get super long that it cuts into my lunch hour.

                              1. re: singleguychef
                                calalilly Dec 6, 2011 11:15 AM

                                Does anyone have the web21 food truck schedule? This is so exciting. I haven't had a chance to try any of these and now they are so close to my office. Thanks!

                                1. re: calalilly
                                  shanghaikid Dec 6, 2011 11:39 AM

                                  could change anytime.
                                  mon: munch india
                                  tues: ebberts good to go & nick;s wheelly breakfast alternate
                                  wed: streetery
                                  thurs: vesta flatbreadbread & 510burger alternate
                                  fri: guerilla grub, fists of flou pizza, el taco bike.

                                  1. re: shanghaikid
                                    calalilly Dec 6, 2011 11:59 AM

                                    Awesome, thanks!

                                    1. re: shanghaikid
                                      singleguychef Dec 7, 2011 10:28 AM

                                      Just a note on Thursday, whenever 510 burger is there, then the That's Sweet! cupcake truck is also there. Nice sized cupcakes!

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                                        shanghaikid Dec 7, 2011 07:58 PM

                                        tried that's sweet cupcake once. seems their cupcakes (3) mostly are of vanilla or chocolate varieties.
                                        found cupcake to be semidry and the flavoring bland, stagnant....

                                      2. re: shanghaikid
                                        moto Dec 9, 2011 02:44 PM

                                        this Fri went by 21st/Webster and saw the taco bike only. ended up going to the Chairman truck on Grand. the duck confit on steamed bao w. spicy dressing/veg was very tasty, just not quite enough food (4.50) for my semi-serious appetite from walking around in the beautiful autumn sunshine.

                                        1. re: moto
                                          singleguychef Dec 12, 2011 04:03 PM

                                          Huh? Strange. I was there Friday and don't recall paying $4.50 for a steamed bun. I think the price was $3.75. And I got two, and she only charged me $7 because I'm thinking she didn't want to deal with the coins. So I thought $7 was a good deal for the two buns. I got the pork belly, which was great and filling, and the new spicy sesame chicken, which was not as great but still filling. In most other places these days I'm spending between $7 to $8 for lunch and even sandwiches from Specialty's is around $6 to $7.

                                          1. re: singleguychef
                                            bgbc Jan 10, 2012 01:04 PM

                                            Last I had Chairman (Bao) in SF it was also around $7 for two buns. Delicious, fresh, spicy and filling.

                                2. Ruth Lafler Dec 5, 2011 02:07 PM

                                  I've tried most of those, and the only one I would (and in fact, do) go back to is Curry Up Now. Rib Whip the sauce is way too sweet. The others it's hard to make an actual meal from, and/or they aren't a good value. Curry Up Now is, to me, what a food truck should be: relatively quick, delicious food with a twist, and a reasonable value. I'm currently addicted to the "sexy fries" (cross-cut sweet potato fries) with Chicken Tikka Masala.

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